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I note Damien Reeves of Altringham has already bagged five since their promotion to the Conference. He bagged 44 last season in the Conference North, our strikers are already conspicuous by their absence on the top goalscorers list. The article below shows he would consider a move to a league club, not sure if we would tempt him with fulltime football. There is a clause in his contract that allows him to leave for a league club on a free, perhaps this clause would keep his transfer fee to us down?

Do we need a new striker? Could Reeves be the answer? Is the budget still there to bring one in and would the hairs stand up on the back of your neck? ;-)

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/damian-reeves-proves-good-goals-1766884

Bogle has scored a few too, including 2 at North Ferriby on Sat where apparently he caught the eye.

Quoted from oldun

Bogle has scored a few too, including 2 at North Ferriby on Sat where apparently he caught the eye.

Let's hope the Bogester is still on the radar then! I believe we have the best chance of promotion since we were relegated to this cesspit, the only doubt I have are will the forwards bag enough goals against the decent sides. If you sign Reeves, you sign goals. I don't know about his overall play, but he is a machine in front of goal. I also worry how long Pittman will stay fit for given his record over the last few years.

Quoted from 75

I note Damien Reeves of Altringham has already bagged five since their promotion to the Conference. He bagged 44 last season in the Conference North, our strikers are already conspicuous by their absence on the top goalscorers list. The article below shows he would consider a move to a league club, not sure if we would tempt him with fulltime football. There is a clause in his contract that allows him to leave for a league club on a free, perhaps this clause would keep his transfer fee to us down?

Do we need a new striker? Could Reeves be the answer? Is the budget still there to bring one in and would the hairs stand up on the back of your neck? ;-)

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/damian-reeves-proves-good-goals-1766884

Would be good although the question needs to be asked what are his negatives (if any) why has no one moved for him? I would prefer Bogle myself for his shop like presence

Quoted from 75

I note Damien Reeves of Altringham has already bagged five since their promotion to the Conference. He bagged 44 last season in the Conference North, our strikers are already conspicuous by their absence on the top goalscorers list. The article below shows he would consider a move to a league club, not sure if we would tempt him with fulltime football. There is a clause in his contract that allows him to leave for a league club on a free, perhaps this clause would keep his transfer fee to us down?

Do we need a new striker? Could Reeves be the answer? Is the budget still there to bring one in and would the hairs stand up on the back of your neck? ;-)

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/damian-reeves-proves-good-goals-1766884

I know you say our strikers are absent from the charts but we 7 games in we have 3 players with three and all of our strikers have scored despite not playing every game, I agree that it is key that Pittman stays fit, but if he does he will get 20+ and on current form Neilson and the shop will be hitting double figures, at the minute with all players fit I think Reeves would struggle to get in our side.

We're the 2nd highest goalscorers in the league so I don't think we need to worry about having a top scoring striker. In this league we had Alan Connell and Liam Hearn finishing at the top end of the goalscorers charts but that didn't get us promoted. The last time we were promoted our top scorer was a midfielder. Therefore I don't think it's an issue, our squad looks pretty good as it is.

SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SIGN HIM NEXT YEAR ON THAT CLAUSE, IF PROMOTED - ..... LEAGUE CLUB, NOT CONFERENCE !!

I think we need another striker on the books though, with the partnerships which have been formed this season, any new arrivals might play mostly as a backup to our current players.

Specifically, we could do with another 'big' striker to give us options up front when LJL is injured/suspended/out of form. Pittman did OK on his own at the weekend but some of the massive defenders in this division would wipe him out so another targetman type in the squad would be useful.

I suppose the alternative is another quick striker.

Regardless of the type of player, I certainly think we need somebody else in as just 3 specialist strikers in a squad just isn't enough.

Quoted from acko338

SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SIGN HIM NEXT YEAR ON THAT CLAUSE, IF PROMOTED - ..... LEAGUE CLUB, NOT CONFERENCE !!

I heard you. ;-)

What I'm saying is because he can be taken on a free by 92 clubs, his transfer fee to a club outside of that 92 could well be reduced.

Whilst we are someways on the up so to speak it would be wise to get a player in the same style as John Lewis to cover him for loss of form injuries suspensions etc, we can`t win this league with only three strikers IMO even accounting for the fact that goals can and will come from midfield

A while back Reeves was out of contract and someone posted on his twitter if he would be interested in joining Grimsby Town, and he said yes if the chance was there.

I'm sure it was him, can anyone remember?

Been a while since we've had a Damian Reeves thread!

Does that clause still exist, that article's from 18 months ago?

Quoted from Garth

Whilst we are someways on the up so to speak it would be wise to get a player in the same style as John Lewis to cover him for loss of form injuries suspensions etc, we can`t win this league with only three strikers IMO even accounting for the fact that goals can and will come from midfield

Agree but a player currently playing regularly is unlikely to come here to sit on the bench, so the likelihood is a loan player from a league above who is not playing for whatever reason and wants to get a bit of action, or a young player who wants a chance to develop. I would prefer the latter option which is more likely to suit both parties. Either way needs to be a striker of the Lenny ilk we are well off for pacey small finishers.

I read the article as being able to activate a clause to join a higher league club only, not any same league rival team, so we would have to wait for promotion to activate that particular clause. It reads like they won't sell him to a rival in the same league !

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

A while back Reeves was out of contract and someone posted on his twitter if he would be interested in joining Grimsby Town, and he said yes if the chance was there.

I'm sure it was him, can anyone remember?

I think you will find it was Jim Reeves and he posted on his twitter, " please release me let me go ". ;)

I think if we sign anyone at all it'll be a loan striker, someone who's not getting game time at a football league club, and I'd imagine it would be someone of the target man variety.

Just out of interest, I'm guessing we budgeted for a 4th striker in the summer so on that loose assumption that would mean we are saving money at the moment, maybe £600 to £800 pounds a week? Would this mean we could use that saving to add to a potential fee for a player in January? Just a thought.

It's be said time and time again on here that Reeves has a very well paid job. Hence why he's never gone full time, the wage from Alty & his plastering business (i'm pretty sure it's that) far outweighs what most could offer him apparently. I'm pretty sure he even turned down Doncaster a few years back.

Quoted from Grimal

I think you will find it was Jim Reeves and he posted on his twitter, " please release me let me go ". ;)

Excellent!

If he is still plastering by day and playing and training part time,

I am sure he would welcome the chance to go full time with us and hopefully gain promotion,

If he has his own business, he does not have to give it up,

He can let his employee's make some more money for him. 8)

Do we need a striker ?
Not entirely convinced tbh, least not yet.

Another winger for more competition ?
Neilson has been seen up front in patches (like Sat), tends to roam about centrally anyway...
Arnold not fully fit yet.
Mackreth gets injured, possible lack of options/backup both sides ?
Not convinced either really, just a thought...

We've only got 3 specialist strikers on the books (not including youngsters). At the end of last season we had 5 strikers on the books so it seems pretty obvious to me that we'll need at least one more striker. At the moment, one injury or suspension and we're down to the bare bones. Two injuries/suspensions and we're limited in the style in which we can play.

Never read the accounts for grimsby town but the notion that these players are on £500-600 is way off the mark surely?
A lot of players are from london way and could be easily on double that as a plumber. Surely they're on 1.5k+ at the very min??
The cars, houses, wags, haircuts they have suggest they're on 2k+

As for reeves, he's missed the boat....
He had his chance. At 29, he has another year to get a league move. He's gonna regret not moving when he did have the chance.
Instead he can look back at all those matches he played in front of one man and his dog and all those houses he's plastered. All be it he's scored a shed load of goals which have no doubt made him a legend in altrincham.
Altrincham must be paying him a tidy sum
Is that a contradiction?!

Quoted from Maringer

We've only got 3 specialist strikers on the books (not including youngsters). At the end of last season we had 5 strikers on the books so it seems pretty obvious to me that we'll need at least one more striker. At the moment, one injury or suspension and we're down to the bare bones.

Of course, so should we just recruit when we're down to the bare bones ?

Risk is you bring someone in paying a wage and they may end up twiddling their thumbs not getting a game anyway.
Easy to spend money but on a limited budget, Hurst may be thinking ahead thinking it's better spent later.
Can remember him discussing some of these pros and cons in a post match interview this season...

I can see both sides tbh - obviously it may help some players (i.e. those who will be made use of) to gel with the squad asap.

More players available to fill a position = more competition for places.

It is quite commonplace for players to improve when they've got another player breathing down their neck trying to win a place in the first team.

Not to mention that extra attacking options on the bench mean that the manager has further opportunities to try and change the style of play if things are going well.

No doubt in my mind that we need at least one more attacker. Wonder if we'll go for a higher-division youngster on loan? If so, I'd hope for somebody with a bit of pace or versatility with the ability to play out wide if necessary.

Quoted from Grimal

I think you will find it was Jim Reeves and he posted on his twitter, " please release me let me go ". ;)

That was Englebert Humperdinck wasn't it ?

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Quoted from Maringer

More players available to fill a position = more competition for places.

It is quite commonplace for players to improve when they've got another player breathing down their neck trying to win a place in the first team.

Completely agree, I'll argue the the case for improved competition for places all day long.

But again, just so long as the ones "breathing down their neck" get chances (which isn't always easy to do)
Otherwise perhaps players can get hacked off thinking "What do I need to do to get in ?" and slacken off themselves.
[Only guessing here but it makes obvious sense you don't want a bunch of disillusioned & unmotivated backup players...]

Put it this way, rightly (and there may be very good reasons like Sat) or wrongly if Hannah can't get in (and we all know he's keen as hell !), don't quite see the point YET unless they're good enough to earn that place in training or (just need to) go straight in.

Obviously always willing to be convinced otherwise though...

Quoted from Maringer

Wonder if we'll go for a higher-division youngster on loan?

Wouldn't be suprised !

Quoted from Maringer

If so, I'd hope for somebody with a bit of pace or versatility with the ability to play out wide if necessary.

Can see your logic.
Sounds a bit like Arnold mark 2 ! :)

Quoted from Grimal

I think you will find it was Jim Reeves and he posted on his twitter, " please release me let me go ". ;)

Kin Ace ;D!

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Never read the accounts for grimsby town but the notion that these players are on £500-600 is way off the mark surely?
A lot of players are from london way and could be easily on double that as a plumber. Surely they're on 1.5k+ at the very min??
The cars, houses, wags, haircuts they have suggest they're on 2k+

As for reeves, he's missed the boat....
He had his chance. At 29, he has another year to get a league move. He's gonna regret not moving when he did have the chance.
Instead he can look back at all those matches he played in front of one man and his dog and all those houses he's plastered. All be it he's scored a shed load of goals which have no doubt made him a legend in altrincham.
Altrincham must be paying him a tidy sum
Is that a contradiction?!

Like you I dont read the full accounts, but I was under the impression that the top earners at the club were on around 1k a week. Seem to remember one of the stumbling blocks with Pond (possibly remembering wrongly) was that his wages were up around 1.5/2k a week.

A few seasons ago Southport got promoted into the Conference and went full time. Some of their best players who got them promoted weren't in a position to give up their day jobs so left and played for other clubs in the area. Southport got relegated and reverted to part-time.

I guess it's difficult for a part-time player to make that decision of stepping up to go full time. Even if his club promise to double his wages, say from £300 to £600 he might be better off earning £300 plus whatever he makes from his day job.

I don't blame Reeves for staying at Alty (if his day job pays well).

Damien reeves does score goals, fact. But our front three look good, Scottie playing out of his skin and let's not forget Arnold can play as a striker, not needed yet in my opinion. Keep a space for a loanee if needed at a later date. We have a happy squad, they will only stay happy if we are winning and they are all getting some game time. Pretty soon we will be an attractive proposition again and hopefully attract good quality players.

If we want to get promotion we should do what Fleetwood , Crawley and Luton did,

Sign all the best strikers,

You can never have enough strikers,

Just ask Mike Newell. ;D

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That was Englebert Humperdinck wasn't it ?

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There's loads sang it but as Jim Reeves would be about 150 now he must have been the first ;)
But guess what ! some guy called Fred die Fender sang it ,perhaps thats where the mix up with that Reeves fella on the OP comes in to it.

As said further up the thread, Reeves has his own successful plastering business.

He had a trial at Doncaster a few years back (I actually think he's from that way on, or definitely is based there) and was hoping for a contract but I seem to recall they couldn't agree terms, such was his high demands.

If he's part-time and has a successful business, I can't say I'd blame him for asking for at least parity with what he earns as a combination from both.

Well out of our budget.