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Quoted from forza ivano

no such thing as bad publicity. no matter what the film is like there is going to be a good deal of interest in gtfc as a result both from the press and foreign football fans who will want to know more about gtfc. a perfect opportunity, in fact, for our marketing department . knowing our marketing dept i'm sure theyre on the case already, exploring how best to exploit the opportunity....... :-/

we are gtfc not barca our marketing opportunities are all local based no one else gives a fook about us but absolutely agree we dont do the local stuff that well :-/ the saying no such thing as bad publicity is total bollox in this situation and is the max clifford train of thought, old fashioned and out dated bit like max him self really 8) if cohen really takes the urine out of grimsby how will that benefit this town in any shape or form? i can just picture all the Siemens executives flying into humbo passing over the dock tower saying is that where all the football hooligans live .lets invest there ..... lets wait and see but i cant see what good it will do us if its as bad as i fear :o

It worked wonders for the reputation of Staines / Kazakstan.

Is any of it actually being filmed at the ground or local area

Quoted from Dan

It worked wonders for the reputation of Staines / Kazakstan.

certainly helped increase interest.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/17826000

Quoted from forza ivano

no such thing as bad publicity. no matter what the film is like there is going to be a good deal of interest in gtfc as a result both from the press and foreign football fans who will want to know more about gtfc. a perfect opportunity, in fact, for our marketing department . knowing our marketing dept i'm sure theyre on the case already, exploring how best to exploit the opportunity....... :-/

yeah - just ask Gerald Rattner, Gordon Brown, Nicolas Sarkozy, Rolf Harris etc.

Quoted from pizzzza

Can anyone on here claim that the character is based on them? I see a fair few supporters who think they are Liam Gallagher/Paul Weller-a-likes down at BP!

socks and sandals in one of those pictures....more Barnsley than Cleethorpes. :B

Definitely not Gallagher. More like that monkey man bloke from Supergrass with those sideburns.

Am half expecting him to show up this season in disguse, either at ground or local boozer and cause agro with it being recorded with a bit of secret filming. Am sure someone in this town going to make a prat out of themselves on recorded footage Borat style.

Quoted from poomehellt

Am half expecting him to show up this season in disguse, either at ground or local boozer and cause agro with it being recorded with a bit of secret filming. Am sure someone in this town going to make a prat out of themselves on recorded footage Borat style.

He could just trawl footage on the net, Grimsby v Stoke, Burton v Grimsby or ask our very own video man PC what's his name, who must have the most voyeuristic video collection worldwide and by using modern digital editing, put himself right up front of any trouble.

Quoted from Marinerz93

He could just trawl footage on the net, Grimsby v Stoke, Burton v Grimsby or ask our very own video man PC what's his name, who must have the most voyeuristic video collection worldwide and by using modern digital editing, put himself right up front of any trouble.

PC Dodds. Pretty sure he'll be gearing himself up for the Sunderland 'friendly'. :o

Quoted from GiveUsAG

PC Dodds. Pretty sure he'll be gearing himself up for the Sunderland 'friendly'. :o

How about the big local derby between Cleethorpes Town v Grimsby Town be bother all over the place... ;)

Benidorm was a urine take but was good publicity

The bad news: They are only bloody substituting Tilbury for 'Grimsby' as a location

The good news: Penelope Cruz has joined the cast

http://www.thurrockgazette.co.uk/news/11332921.Sacha_Baron_Cohen_in_Tilbury_shooting_new_film/?ref=var_0

Some of the filming been done at Southend Utd :-/ >> http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/11289806._It_s_nice____Borat_and_Ali_G_creator_chooses_Roots_Hall_to_shoot_next_film/

Why not call it flipping 'Southend' if they're going to film it there. Hollywood girl privates.

"no such thing as bad publicity" what utter rubbish, a stupid saying repeated by complete idiots, this will be bad news for Grimsby area, numpties like our mascot might think its great, worse news that bene fit street or Skint coming to town to drag the area further down.
:( :( :(

Quoted from Chrisblor

Why not call it flipping 'Southend' if they're going to film it there. Hollywood girl privates.

Have you considered that the scene they were filming could be a Town away game at Southend?

Quoted from pizzzza

Have you considered that the scene they were filming could be a Town away game at Southend?

Given that the newspaper article linked above states they've converted a street in Tilbury into '1980s Grimsby', no I haven't considered that.

They could have just filmed it in Grimsby if they wanted 1980s Grimsby!

Quoted from Chrisblor

Given that the newspaper article linked above states they've converted a street in Tilbury into '1980s Grimsby', no I haven't considered that.

I didn't think so.

That shows how bad we are as a town.....we aren't even the best at being Grimsby :-/

I hope they actually so some filming at Blundell Park 80's stylee. If they just do all the filming around Southend, then it will be a proper pisstake literally. :(

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

I hope they actually so some filming at Blundell Park 80's stylee. :(

Quick..rebuild the ABC.....ram raid Whiteheads for the Pringles and Lacostes, open a tab at Mary Coo's and wahaaay...

Quoted from Chrisblor

Why not call it flipping 'Southend' if they're going to film it there. Hollywood girl privates.

I would imagine that security costs are very much lower and they get less bother from local scumbags looking for trouble or robbing.

Its the crazy paving that put them off. ;)

In all seriousness, It'll be down to the cost effectiveness of filming near London.

Quoted from jaymariner

That shows how bad we are as a town.....we aren't even the best at being Grimsby :-/

Post of the week (tick)

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Post of the week (tick)

Even better than the greyhound race?

Not a good advert for Tilbury or Southend if they were chosen for being more like a run down 1980's Grimsby than Grimsby

Quoted from scrumble

Not a good advert for Tilbury or Southend if they were chosen for being more like a run down 1980's Grimsby than Grimsby

This! ;D

Film portrayal of the town in the 80s looking very inaccurate already judging by the pictures on the mail online what with the satellite dishes and black kids on the streets.

Lets be honest, when it was first announced that the film was to be called Grimsby, and it was about football hooliganism, AND Sacha Cohen was in it you just KNEW that the town would have the pi*s taken out of it, and would be seen as a s*ithole, (which by the way in a lot of areas it is). A shame perhaps the fans fawning over Cohen in the Blundell Park Hotel didn't realise it at the time.
Having said that i think the people of Tilbury are overeacting, having been there on a few occasions i can only say that they should be delighted with the vast improvement to their town that the film set brings.

LMFAO Perkins, great to hear that Tilbury has been "improved".

Quoted from Perkins

Lets be honest, when it was first announced that the film was to be called Grimsby, and it was about football hooliganism, AND Sacha Cohen was in it you just KNEW that the town would have the pi*s taken out of it, and would be seen as a s*ithole, (which by the way in a lot of areas it is). A shame perhaps the fans fawning over Cohen in the Blundell Park Hotel didn't realise it at the time.
Having said that i think the people of Tilbury are overeacting, having been there on a few occasions i can only say that they should be delighted with the vast improvement to their town that the film set brings.

I'd still shake his hand and have a pint with him, he's one funny bloke besides his film will put Grimsby well on the map, all this talk about giving a bad impression come off it, anywhere else you go in the uk and mention Grimsby the word shithole is not far behind.

If you want to shake that pretentious twit by the hand go for it . But I'm guessing he wouldn't even look at you as u put your hand out as he walked past . He's going to make the inhabitants of Gy look twits no doubt about it . And as a louthy I should laugh but as gtfc if he shows his face in town he should be battered and the whole film abandoned . That's the only way gy will get any respect

It's known as a shithole because people accept it as one.

Quoted from LH

It's known as a shithole because people accept it as one.

because it is.... :P

Quoted from moosey_club

because it is.... :P

I didn't say it wasn't...

Why should people who've never been get to call it one?

Quoted from LH

I didn't say it wasn't...

Why should people who've never been get to call it one?

Hehe.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

If you want to shake that pretentious twit by the hand go for it . But I'm guessing he wouldn't even look at you as u put your hand out as he walked past . He's going to make the inhabitants of Gy look twits no doubt about it . And as a louthy I should laugh but as gtfc if he shows his face in town he should be battered and the whole film abandoned . That's the only way gy will get any respect

Er.....Doesn't that prove his point about it being a violent shithole....?

Oh yeah good point .

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

I thought it looked like that. Not sure this film will paint grimsby in a good light he just takes the urine out of everyone

My thoughts as well.Dont like seeing the Town painted in a bad light.

For a long time, I'd been telling people that I'm from grimsby, and it was a shithole. But then, I went back to visit a few weeks ago, and it's a lot bloody nicer than Peckham where I live now. Everyone has a house for a start.

We all new Cohen was going to mercilessly slaughter us, but this is even worse than
i imagined, what little credibility this Town has will vanish after the release of this film
and  OK the facts are that there are areas of Grimsby that this might actually resemble,
but they are in the vast minority - i have lived in this Town all of my 50 odd years,
i am working class and Lived in 5 locations  in the Town- not one of those locations
are remotely like the cess pit Cohen is trying to portray and neither is
90% of the Town - Grimsby is no worse than any other Northen Industrial Town, it has
good parts and bad, its unlikely  anyone will see anything good, yet you read some of
the readers comments in the GET and some seem to revel in the prospect of our certain humiliation.
Before anyone claims otherwise, i do have a good sense of humour, but anyone looking
forward to this humiliation needs their head examining.

When I was in HM Forces I was based around the UK and overseas. I always loved coming back home but every time I came back I could see the Town getting worse on each visit. I now work from Boston/Lincoln/Scunthorpe/Rotherham/Wakefield and Grimsby area. I see more boarded up houses and rough areas in Grimsby than anywhere else. I also see more people bimbling along like the walking dead because they are either off their face on drugs or are drunk. The amount of people I see walking around Town with tinnies in there hand at 9am is ridiculous.

The money generated in this Town should see it as one of the most affluent areas in the North. The lion-share of blame lays at the feet of the council. I hope that Sacha rips the Town a new one and the councillors finally realise how their incompetence and ineptness has cost the Town so dearly.

Just as Bruno and Borat were absurd caricatures of a gay man and a strange foreigner respectively, this will be an absurd representation of a working class northern town. It's intended to be way over the top for comic effect, it is not intended as an accurate portrayal of the town. No reason to be offended.

With respect, do you really believe the people of this country who haven't visited
Grimsby will really believe that Grimsby isn't how it is portrayed in the film? As a Town
we will be ridiculed to the point of offence, are we really worse than Scunthorpe and
dozens of other Northern Towns? IMO No..
Marinerz, you are of course entitled to your opinion about Grimsby, but what sort of
percentage of the 90 odd thousand population of Grimsby really are permanently 'off
their heads' either will alcohol or drugs? There are some, i would not dispute, but not
a particularly high percentage, i would wager.
The decent folk of Grimsby, which are in the large majority, face humiliation and ridicule,
because this film will make it easy for residents elsewhere in the UK to do precisely that.
I agree with you about the uselessness of Council after Council contributing to a decline
in the Town, but who in the future will invest in this area after we are portrayed like this?
I might well be in the minority about this, but what i am seeing makes my blood boil.

Quoted from petethemariner

With respect, do you really believe the people of this country who haven't visited
Grimsby will really believe that Grimsby isn't how it is portrayed in the film? As a Town
we will be ridiculed to the point of offence, are we really worse than Scunthorpe and
dozens of other Northern Towns? IMO No..
Marinerz, you are of course entitled to your opinion about Grimsby, but what sort of
percentage of the 90 odd thousand population of Grimsby really are permanently 'off
their heads' either will alcohol or drugs? There are some, i would not dispute, but not
a particularly high percentage, i would wager.
The decent folk of Grimsby, which are in the large majority, face humiliation and ridicule,
because this film will make it easy for residents elsewhere in the UK to do precisely that.
I agree with you about the uselessness of Council after Council contributing to a decline
in the Town, but who in the future will invest in this area after we are portrayed like this?
I might well be in the minority about this, but what i am seeing makes my blood boil.

Like I said earlier, the areas I work in vary every day and I get a chance to visit many places both good and bad. I can go days or even weeks without working in the GY area but as soon as I do, I see them, tinnies in hand, I see it more here than anywhere else. The decent folk in this Town have been slipping into the minority for years so the larger majority won't even be bothered. As a percentage of 90K no idea, who would, but I would say it is higher here than a lot of Northern Towns from what I have seen.

I have spoken to people who have come here for housing (UK citizens) and they are shocked at some of the areas they have moved into. It also speaks volumes about one of the housing associations when they would rather have an eastern Europeans living in one of their houses than a local.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Like I said earlier, the areas I work in vary every day and I get a chance to visit many places both good and bad. I can go days or even weeks without working in the GY area but as soon as I do, I see them, tinnies in hand, I see it more here than anywhere else. The decent folk in this Town have been slipping into the minority for years so the larger majority won't even be bothered. As a percentage of 90K no idea, who would, but I would say it is higher here than a lot of Northern Towns from what I have seen.

I have spoken to people who have come here for housing (UK citizens) and they are shocked at some of the areas they have moved into. It also speaks volumes about one of the housing associations when they would rather have an eastern Europeans living in one of their houses than a local.

What a load of bollox

Quoted from Marinerz93

Like I said earlier, the areas I work in vary every day and I get a chance to visit many places both good and bad. I can go days or even weeks without working in the GY area but as soon as I do, I see them, tinnies in hand, I see it more here than anywhere else. The decent folk in this Town have been slipping into the minority for years so the larger majority won't even be bothered. As a percentage of 90K no idea, who would, but I would say it is higher here than a lot of Northern Towns from what I have seen.

I have spoken to people who have come here for housing (UK citizens) and they are shocked at some of the areas they have moved into. It also speaks volumes about one of the housing associations when they would rather have an eastern Europeans living in one of their houses than a local.

Really? Lets take a ludicrously high figure of 1 in 10 walking zombie like under
the influence of drink or drugs - that would be in excess of 9000 people, even
with  10% percentage permanently  'out of their heads' that means 80 odd thousand
people who aren't - or aren't these folk 'decent' as well?
If you really mean that Marinerz  i think you are  very, very wrong.
I am not for one moment suggesting that Grimsby is some form of Northern Monte Carlo
we all know the areas where Cohens representation of the Town is  probably a fair one but my point is that this is still a vast minority - i and tens of thousand of others have lived in this Town all of our lives and i consider myself extremely 'decent'. as i
am sure  most others do and are..
All about opinions, but d'ont tar the majority with the brush of the small minority.

Quoted from petethemariner

Really? Lets take a ludicrously high figure of 1 in 10 walking zombie like under
the influence of drink or drugs - that would be in excess of 9000 people, even
with  10% percentage permanently  'out of their heads' that means 80 odd thousand
people who aren't - or aren't these folk 'decent' as well?
If you really mean that Marinerz  i think you are  very, very wrong.
I am not for one moment suggesting that Grimsby is some form of Northern Monte Carlo
we all know the areas where Cohens representation of the Town is  probably a fair one but my point is that this is still a vast minority - i and tens of thousand of others have lived in this Town all of our lives and i consider myself extremely 'decent'. as i
am sure  most others do and are..
All about opinions, but d'ont tar the majority with the brush of the small minority.

bout right for me, but as regards your first post , i think the majority of people will see it for what it is , a comedy, wont they ? lol

I can only hope so Highcliff, but sadly i think it will perpetuate the opinion of
many (who probably haven' t even visited the Town) that this is a fair reflection
and i think we will unfortunately become a standing joke.
I really hope you are right though.

Quoted from Marinerz93

When I was in HM Forces I was based around the UK and overseas. I always loved coming back home but every time I came back I could see the Town getting worse on each visit. I now work from Boston/Lincoln/Scunthorpe/Rotherham/Wakefield and Grimsby area. I see more boarded up houses and rough areas in Grimsby than anywhere else. I also see more people bimbling along like the walking dead because they are either off their face on drugs or are drunk. The amount of people I see walking around Town with tinnies in there hand at 9am is ridiculous.

The money generated in this Town should see it as one of the most affluent areas in the North. The lion-share of blame lays at the feet of the council. I hope that Sacha rips the Town a new one and the councillors finally realise how their incompetence and ineptness has cost the Town so dearly.

You mention you work out of Boston,I lived there for 45 yrs and God knows which part of Boston you work from but from what I've seen and know it's a far worse town for Drugs and Tinnies and muggings than Grimsby will ever be. Boston/Spalding area have the third highest drug related deaths in the country (FACT). I have no fear of walking out at night in any part of Grimsby but there are several areas in Boston I would never venture after dark. I have friends living there and they never go out at night unless in their cars.Next time you work from boston just have a walk down Fydell street any time night and day,you will see more tinnies down that road alone than the the whole of Grimsby. I moved to Grimsby 7 years ago and don't regret it one bit.
When I told people I had moved to Grimsby,some said,what ever have you moved there for ,my answer was, have you ever been, most said no but the name Grimsby doesn't sound very nice,I will agree with that. My answer was don't knock it until you've visited.The ones that have visited us have been pleasantly surprised.We had the choice of moving to Grimsby or Nottingham and we chose Grimsby,no contest.

What exactly are we fearing? That the thousands of Japanese and American tourists who flood in each year will spend their Yen and Dollars elsewhere? It'll be a urine-take but what damage can it actually do? What negative impacts has Kazakhstan seen? I'll be honest and say that if it doesn't materially damage the Town then I couldn't care less what it makes people think and I can't really see what damage it can do.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What exactly are we fearing? That the thousands of Japanese and American tourists who flood in each year will spend their Yen and Dollars elsewhere? It'll be a urine-take but what damage can it actually do? What negative impacts has Kazakhstan seen? I'll be honest and say that if it doesn't materially damage the Town then I couldn't care less what it makes people think and I can't really see what damage it can do.

Well i seem to remember Kazakhstan threatening Cohen with legal action and i think
it would be fair to say it had more of a negative impact on the image of that country
than a positive one, the damage that can be done is to the image of the Town, we  have been tarred with a bad image (unfairly IMO) for decades and this will just make it worse.
It's OK for  you basing yourself in Farsley, we who actually live in this Town will be the
butt of the inevitable jokes - i am a  Grimbarian, born and bred and proud of it - sick
of the jokes about my birthplace, if i am  being over sensitive then so be it, i d'ont expect everyone to agree, but its how i feel and just my opinion.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Like I said earlier, the areas I work in vary every day and I get a chance to visit many places both good and bad. I can go days or even weeks without working in the GY area but as soon as I do, I see them, tinnies in hand, I see it more here than anywhere else. The decent folk in this Town have been slipping into the minority for years so the larger majority won't even be bothered. As a percentage of 90K no idea, who would, but I would say it is higher here than a lot of Northern Towns from what I have seen.

I have spoken to people who have come here for housing (UK citizens) and they are shocked at some of the areas they have moved into. [/b] It also speaks volumes about one of the housing associations when they would rather have an eastern Europeans living in one of their houses than a local.

[b]

I had 3 houses that I rented out in Peterborough and I also prefered Eastern Europeans as Tenants, The houses they rented were always spotless and rent always paid on time, unlike some "locals" we had in at various times,good and bad tenants in all nationalities I suppose but I can understand the housing associations.

To be honest I think that we are getting a little carried away with the gy image being tarnished forever. Everyone that has been to the place has and will have a pop.you can name so many other towns that are dumps Grimsby is not alone. I love gy I love the club, I couldn't live there though not because I have doubts it's the job situation. Those pics could be taken anywhere they are a part of The image that is portrayed of people less fortunate than the well offs..let's hope in 8 month's time Grimsby are back in the news for all the right reasons our return to the football league .

Up the Mariners ;D

For the people who have never been to Grimsby but watch the film,

In all honesty we will be able to say to them,

" Yes Grimsby did look like a shithole in the film but it was filmed in Southend " ;D ;D

Quoted from petethemariner

Well i seem to remember Kazakhstan threatening Cohen with legal action and i think
it would be fair to say it had more of a negative impact on the image of that country
than a positive one, the damage that can be done is to the image of the Town, we  have been tarred with a bad image (unfairly IMO) for decades and this will just make it worse.
It's OK for  you basing yourself in Farsley, we who actually live in this Town will be the
butt of the inevitable jokes - i am a  Grimbarian, born and bred and proud of it - sick
of the jokes about my birthplace, if i am  being over sensitive then so be it, i d'ont expect everyone to agree, but its how i feel and just my opinion.

I didn't realise that by 'basing' myself in Farsley I'd lost my right to an opinion. For what it's worth I do think you're being over-sensitive especially given that it's a year from release and you've seen none of it. You're obviously proud of being from Grimsby, as am I and I'll still be proud whatever the film says and whatever people think.

I can't wait for it to come out . I'll be pi.ssing myself at it ha ha cod heads

No Rodley, on the GET website we saw more footage last week and to be perfectly
honest  it would have been  massively harsh  even for the very worst areas of this
Town, we will be slaughtered and its not even filmed here.
I'm not suggesting you have no right to an opinion, merely that its much easier to
be philospohical about it when its not your doorstep that's being portrayed unfairly.
As i said, i d'ont care if people think i am being  over sensitive, i probably am, i am just
sick of cheap jibes about the Town of my birth, its time we stopped being so apathetic
about it and  accepting our  tedious deprecation and 'gallows humour'.
People should read Grimals first post on this subject.

Quoted from petethemariner

Really? Lets take a ludicrously high figure of 1 in 10 walking zombie like under
the influence of drink or drugs - that would be in excess of 9000 people, even
with  10% percentage permanently  'out of their heads' that means 80 odd thousand
people who aren't - or aren't these folk 'decent' as well?
If you really mean that Marinerz  i think you are  very, very wrong.
I am not for one moment suggesting that Grimsby is some form of Northern Monte Carlo
we all know the areas where Cohens representation of the Town is  probably a fair one but my point is that this is still a vast minority - i and tens of thousand of others have lived in this Town all of our lives and i consider myself extremely 'decent'. as i
am sure  most others do and are..
All about opinions, but d'ont tar the majority with the brush of the small minority.

I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns.

Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping ;), my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.

Quoted from petethemariner

With respect, do you really believe the people of this country who haven't visited
Grimsby will really believe that Grimsby isn't how it is portrayed in the film? As a Town
we will be ridiculed to the point of offence, are we really worse than Scunthorpe and
dozens of other Northern Towns? IMO No..

I may well be naive but I just don't see what harm it will do. People with a bit of sense will realise it's a comedy and not a documentary. If it's a genuinely funny film that does well then it will be "good" for the town merely by association.

Quoted from Grimal

You mention you work out of Boston,I lived there for 45 yrs and God knows which part of Boston you work from but from what I've seen and know it's a far worse town for Drugs and Tinnies and muggings than Grimsby will ever be. Boston/Spalding area have the third highest drug related deaths in the country (FACT). I have no fear of walking out at night in any part of Grimsby but there are several areas in Boston I would never venture after dark. I have friends living there and they never go out at night unless in their cars.Next time you work from boston just have a walk down Fydell street any time night and day,you will see more tinnies down that road alone than the the whole of Grimsby. I moved to Grimsby 7 years ago and don't regret it one bit.
When I told people I had moved to Grimsby,some said,what ever have you moved there for ,my answer was, have you ever been, most said no but the name Grimsby doesn't sound very nice,I will agree with that. My answer was don't knock it until you've visited.The ones that have visited us have been pleasantly surprised.We had the choice of moving to Grimsby or Nottingham and we chose Grimsby,no contest.

Never been down Fydell Street but many a lunch time in The Waterfront pub by the river, and working in that area, yes I saw a couple with tinnies.  I'm usually heading home at 4pm so I'll take your word for how bad it is after dark.

To be fair, Boston over the last few years has had to cope with an influx of undesirables that other countries were glad to see the back of.   The illegal alcohol factory that exploded being one example.

I know I used Boston to detail the area I cover but it isn't a Northern Town  ;)

Quoted from Marinerz93

I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns.

Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping ;), my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.

So 55% of the population aren't decent because you have seen some scumbags on your travels through the rougher parts of Grimsby? Well we will have to agree to differ on this one - if you really think that more than one in every 2 people isn't 'decent' you are doing a disservice to the people of Grimsby and its completely utterly untrue in my opinion.

Quoted from Marinerz93

I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns.

Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping ;), my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.

Let me make one final point ( i can hear the cheering) I'm not trying to suggest we
have 80000 Mother Teresas in Grimsby, those 80000+ people have the same various shortcomings,failings and faults that everyone has, whether they live in Grimsby or Henley on Thames, it depends on your interpretation of decent, but i can tell you something, there is no way we have even the 10% of the population that i used as an example that spends their time permanently p!ssed ,drugged up to the eyeballs or
behaving in the sort of way that Cohen is showing in his film.

Quoted from petethemariner

Well i seem to remember Kazakhstan threatening Cohen with legal action and i think
it would be fair to say it had more of a negative impact on the image of that country
than a positive one, the damage that can be done is to the image of the Town, we  have been tarred with a bad image (unfairly IMO) for decades and this will just make it worse.
It's OK for  you basing yourself in Farsley, we who actually live in this Town will be the
butt of the inevitable jokes - i am a  Grimbarian, born and bred and proud of it - sick
of the jokes about my birthplace, if i am  being over sensitive then so be it, i d'ont expect everyone to agree, but its how i feel and just my opinion.

Wrong on Kazakhstan Peter. Tourism to Kazakhstan massively increased as a direct result of the film

Quoted from Marinerz93

I wasn't saying the majority of this Town is off it's face or drunk, I said it seems to me that there is a larger percentage here from what I have seen in Grimsby compared to other Northern Towns.

Years ago the decent people were the majority, not now, not from what I've seen. 80,000 decent people in GY, I'll have what ever your supping ;), my guestimate is 45% of decent people left in this Town.

Really ,Just45% are "decent" ? so the majority arn't then .

Guessing from what you see on the streets is hardly an accurate way of measuring the quality of the townsfolk. For a start you will notice baseball capped chav arsing about, bottle of White Lightening in hand, but you don't notice Mrs Miggins on the way to the pie shop. Then there's the fact that during the day the majority of decent people are hard at work, and not dossing around on the street corner. Its like going in the hospital and saying 90% of the people in Grimsby are ill because that is all you can see.

I'm not saying Grimsby is perfect, but it isn't any different to any other big town or city. God knows I've worked in enough excrement holes, speaking of which, Hull certainly isn't any better.

Quoted from forza ivano

Wrong on Kazakhstan Peter. Tourism to Kazakhstan massively increased as a direct result of the film

Actually, Kazakhstan invested millions in its infrastructure, advertising and brand management to rectify/capitalise (take your pick) on the image presented by Sacha bc. Whether this forced investment will pay off, time will tell, currently I believe it's a net loss - but you can bet that Sacha bc's goal was not to help to regenerate that country - nor our town.

Yes, Grimsby does have countless challenges to face, but I'm not comfortable with this comedian bringing them to the world's attention - there really IS such a thing as BAD publicity.

However - since film is going ahead, our best response is to greet it with good humour, and to present positive aspects of the place. Even though sbc IS a cheeky f+++ing urine-taker.

Quoted from scrumble

I'm not saying Grimsby is perfect, but it isn't any different to any other big town or city. God knows I've worked in enough excrement holes, speaking of which, Hull certainly isn't any better.

This is exactly the point. It's a problem for England (the UK actually). Maybe it's part of the problem as to why the country's in such a social mess, we seem to have a trait of nasty sneeriness for anything outside of our 'patch'. Here in Lincoln I could show you some of the estates and Downhill areas as bad as anywhere else (lived off Sincil Bank just 10 years ago, the change down there is more than alarming), having a 'nice' area is always a big bonus for distracting this though.
I like Baron Cohen's humour, it's sharp and keenly observed but this one already smacks of a bit of creative laziness...chav in an England top, let's base him in a Northern Town....hey, here's one that even has the word 'grim' in its name.
I'll reserve judgement but I can see it only bringing negative thoughts of the town from people, on the whole, who know little of Grimsby in the first place.

It's just another dig at a northern town, happened before and will happen again. "Just look at how them peasants live" comes to mind.
Don't forget guys, if your from England but don't live in London - no-one really cares. Yes, I'm bitter haha.

It's a comedy !
We can take a joke , get over it you bunch of fannies

I am really looking forward to it.

Will be interesting to see if he perfects the Grimsby accent. Wonder if he has consulted Cod Almighty's dictionary:

http://www.codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=220

Quoted from highcliff mariner

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Really ,Just45% are "decent" ? so the majority arn't then .

Do you believe that the majority conform with generally accepted standards of respectability and moral behaviour. We are not talking about what has become common place acceptability of standards of respect and moral behaviour.

Quoted from nickmariners

Actually, Kazakhstan invested millions in its infrastructure, advertising and brand management to rectify/capitalise (take your pick) on the image presented by Sacha bc. Whether this forced investment will pay off, time will tell, currently I believe it's a net loss - but you can bet that Sacha bc's goal was not to help to regenerate that country - nor our town.

Yes, Grimsby does have countless challenges to face, but I'm not comfortable with this comedian bringing them to the world's attention - there really IS such a thing as BAD publicity.

However - since film is going ahead, our best response is to greet it with good humour, and to present positive aspects of the place. Even though sbc IS a cheeky f+++ing urine-taker.

really do hope the marketing dept is aware of the film coz i think there will definitely be a upsurge of interet in the club from home and abroad and i'd love to think they'll have a strategy in place to deal with it and exploit it

Do we have any similarities with Kazakhstan?

I seem to recall they have a swimming pool with a filtration system that can remove 90% of human solid waste. Cleethorpes has a pool with a scratchy floor.

They have the annual Running of the Jew and we have the annual Running of the Yorkie.

Any more?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Do we have any similarities with Kazakhstan?

I seem to recall they have a swimming pool with a filtration system that can remove 90% of human solid waste. Cleethorpes has a pool with a scratchy floor.

They have the annual Running of the Jew and we have the annual Running of the Yorkie.

Any more?

There are certainly no similarities between the Kazakh president and anyone in charge of gtfc. The Kazakh president is a dictator who brooks no criticism and closes down any opposing views in the media, . Furthermore he wants to name his capital city, his personal building project, after himself. It would be the equivalent of our beloved benefactor calling our wonderful new stadium the 'fenty dome'. All this just shows the huge differences between these two much loved leaders despite both of them being elected by almost unfeasably huge numbers of their grateful followers

Quoted from forza ivano

really do hope the marketing dept is aware of the film coz i think there will definitely be a upsurge of interet in the club from home and abroad and i'd love to think they'll have a strategy in place to deal with it and exploit it

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Quality....you should be on stage ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from forza ivano

There are certainly no similarities between the Kazakh president and anyone in charge of gtfc. The Kazakh president is a dictator who brooks no criticism and closes down any opposing views in the media, . Furthermore he wants to name his capital city, his personal building project, after himself. It would be the equivalent of our beloved benefactor calling our wonderful new stadium the 'fenty dome'. All this just shows the huge differences between these two much loved leaders despite both of them being elected by almost unfeasably huge numbers of their grateful followers

(cop)(banned)(cop)

Quoted from petethemariner

Well i seem to remember Kazakhstan threatening Cohen with legal action and i think
it would be fair to say it had more of a negative impact on the image of that country
than a positive one, the damage that can be done is to the image of the Town, we  have been tarred with a bad image (unfairly IMO) for decades and this will just make it worse.
It's OK for  you basing yourself in Farsley, we who actually live in this Town will be the
butt of the inevitable jokes - i am a  Grimbarian, born and bred and proud of it - sick
of the jokes about my birthplace, if i am  being over sensitive then so be it, i d'ont expect everyone to agree, but its how i feel and just my opinion.

I'm just surprised that people think this film will do anything to Grimsby's reputation other than confirm the views that people who already slag it off have. It's not as though this is a town that generates favourable opinion anyway and Cohen is somehow trying to change peoples views. Christ on a bike the name itself has been a source of amusement to some for years. I and I suspect thousands of others will not have our opinions of the town swayed by it and will see it for what it is the selection of an easy target to make a film maker some money to pay his bills...

I've always thought that, from a marketing point of view the town should have used the name Great Grimsby a lot more. I do think the film will show us in a negative light, but this is also an opportunity to have our say about the positives of the area and maybe reinvent ourselves.

Quoted from Ships Cat

I've always thought that, from a marketing point of view the town should have used the name Great Grimsby a lot more. I do think the film will show us in a negative light, but this is also an opportunity to have our say about the positives of the area and maybe reinvent ourselves.

As the old saying goes u can't polish a turd! Some people taking this all to serious.

You may wish to consider Grimsby a Turd but i and many thousands of others d'ont!
It is not a question of taking this too seriously, there is nothing wrong with defending
the name of your  own Town and i for one will continue to do so - do you think for one
second that this Town will come out from this with one iota of respect? Not a chance,
all it will do is perpetuate the undeserved opinion of most of this country about Grimsby
and while i  accept there is plenty of room for improvement and like anywhere there is a percentage of wasters in it , we are no worse than dozens of Towns.
The fact of the matter is that this film is called Grimsby and it  will not be any reason
to celebrate.

When I first saw Sacha Baron Cohen in a Town shirt i thought it was very cool, about 30 seconds later I realised this might not end too well. Not actually being from Grimsby I feel kind of odd saying what I think others should do which is why I have not really commented on this yet. However I think the best attitude to adopt is one of lighthearted humour. At the end of the day moaning will not really help.

This film will come out, the media will do some stories with people from Grimsby saying it is not really bad and is actually in many ways a very nice place. That much is inevitable and the only question really is how to manage it. If people from Grimsby get angry and moody it will just help affirm peoples negative perceptions and add to it as people who cannot take a joke. I think it needs to be joked about as a kind of, we are inviting SBC to a proper tour of Grimsby etc. That way perhaps the damage to the Towns reputation can be limited.

Other than that perhaps we can hope Jeff Stelling can go on a Middlesborough style rant on Soccer Saturday?

Quoted from petethemariner

You may wish to consider Grimsby a Turd but i and many thousands of others d'ont!
It is not a question of taking this too seriously, there is nothing wrong with defending
the name of your  own Town and i for one will continue to do so - do you think for one
second that this Town will come out from this with one iota of respect? Not a chance,
all it will do is perpetuate the undeserved opinion of most of this country about Grimsby
and while i  accept there is plenty of room for improvement and like anywhere there is a percentage of wasters in it , we are no worse than dozens of Towns.
The fact of the matter is that this film is called Grimsby and it  will not be any reason
to celebrate.

You and I know there are far worse towns around the country (even in the Land of Milk and Honey that is the South-East. I was in Gillingham last Saturday-terrible place.) The appearance of a comedy film taking the mickey will not alter my view one iota. Nor should it. It is admirable that you want to defend the name of Grimsby but let's face it the town has been the butt of comedians jokes for years. The appearance of this film will not make that any better or worse.

Agree with Barralad, pretty much - except I didn't think Gillingham was that bad (I always thought it was like a southern version of Grimsby).

There's no point in whinging bout the film if it goes ahead. Have a laugh*, move on and hope that "the authorities" can maximise the opportunity of increased media attention to put out a positive picture of the town.

* always remember that "Sing when we're fishing" was originally a taunt by Everton fans in 1979.

Quoted from petethemariner

You may wish to consider Grimsby a Turd but i and many thousands of others d'ont!
It is not a question of taking this too seriously, there is nothing wrong with defending
the name of your  own Town and i for one will continue to do so - do you think for one
second that this Town will come out from this with one iota of respect? Not a chance,
all it will do is perpetuate the undeserved opinion of most of this country about Grimsby
and while i  accept there is plenty of room for improvement and like anywhere there is a percentage of wasters in it , we are no worse than dozens of Towns.
The fact of the matter is that this film is called Grimsby and it  will not be any reason
to celebrate.

Far from it... polishing a turd was just my analogy, again someone being to serious,
And when it comes to defending the name of my town then I'm the Bobby Moore of town name defending.
Only last week I launched the Guy Martin biography out the door after reading page 1 when the cheeky scruffy village girl private called our town a excrement hole, a town that has provided well for him and his family I'd like to remind him.

As I've previously said in my line of work Ive come across people over the country that have called Grimsby a shithole, what I didn't say is that they end up with at least a barrage of abuse concerning the town they come from, and I've even come to blows with a bloke from Blackburn who slagged our town off - yes flipping Blackburn! il say no more don't want banning :X

It's the exiles like chaos and that mammary living in Boston that really urine me off, they move away to pastures new And then come on here making out its flipping paradise, and as soon as anything negative crops up about the town in the news they are on here in a flash sticking the boot in.

So you can see I'm passionate about my place of birth, but amongst fellow Grimbarians I think I can say to some on here stop making the town out to be something it's not, let's be real the place is what it is a rough in parts typical northern working class town, just like many others over the country no worse but usually a lot better than some of the cesspits that I've visited.

When I'm bigging the town up to people from away I don't mention the urine heads & smackheads because every town has them, I tend to mention our living area what with the parks, Cleethorpes, nightlife, shopping centre, the wolds, and no multiculturalism :)

Most people know Baron's work is an over exaggerated urine take, and the film called Grimsby will be no different, it could be any northern town but what has swung it for Baron is probably the name, so we should just accept it for what it is a comedy movie, let's embrace it after all it's putting us on the map more than gtfc have done in the last 10 years now there's an embarrassment.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Agree with Barralad, pretty much - except I didn't think Gillingham was that bad (I always thought it was like a southern version of Grimsby).

* always remember that "Sing when we're fishing" was originally a taunt by Everton fans in 1979.

There's the problem. Virtually everywhere has poor areas. Grimsby's is pretty much on show to all travelling fans. We went to a Birminghan away game in the 80's, parked the car in what looked like a warzone. A street that had been knocked down, with, oddly, just the pub left standing. Very, very rough with allsorts of undesirables in and out of the pub, with rubble everywhere. After the game, after some stealthy movements back to the car we got in and were off like a bat out of hell. Strangely, just 3 or 4 minutes later we were passing through a lovely leafy avenue with large and very expensive houses.

I don't think that's right.

Grim74 - pleased to hear you are passionate about defending Grimsby, i realise the
phrase 'c'ant polish a turd' isn't meant to be taken literally! Its just that it
was a strange analogy to use about your Town!
I think you are probably right about the name making us the victims instead of Scunthorpe,
Mansfield or the like, its just going to be hard accepting being called a sh1thole by
residents of other, probably worse 'sh!tholes, of which there are many, as RoboCod rightly
says.
Anyway, as i have already admitted, i am sensitive about my home town being ridiculed
and suppose i always will be - rightly or wrongly.

Quoted from barralad

I'm just surprised that people think this film will do anything to Grimsby's reputation other than confirm the views that people who already slag it off have. It's not as though this is a town that generates favourable opinion anyway and Cohen is somehow trying to change peoples views. Christ on a bike the name itself has been a source of amusement to some for years. I and I suspect thousands of others will not have our opinions of the town swayed by it and will see it for what it is the selection of an easy target to make a film maker some money to pay his bills...

Probably true, but, at the risk of sounding incredibly over-serious about a daft film, the more important issue is to do with the potentially adverse economic impact of this kind of mass exposure (assuming the film is produced, distributed and enjoys moderate success), rather than simply being the butt of predictable jokes.

Is it cos we is black&white?

Quoted from RoboCod

I don't think that's right.

It is right. The Everton fans saw fit to sing "You Only SINK When You're Fishing" through a minutes silence for one of a pair of Grimsby trawlers lost in storms with all hands in the North Sea a day or so before the game. It added particular satisfaction to a great win.

I was always told that the original "SING when we're fishing' came up a few years before that though, not in 1979 when it went on to became a popular chant. I remember the Everton game at BP had a minutes silence for Paddy Hamilton but I don't recall any Everton taunts, unless it was another Everton game. We have a decent win ratio against them after all.

Quoted from Ships Cat

I've always thought that, from a marketing point of view the town should have used the name Great Grimsby a lot more. I do think the film will show us in a negative light, but this is also an opportunity to have our say about the positives of the area and maybe reinvent ourselves.

That would involve those in high places have the imagination and nouse to do that. And let's face it, it's not there at council level.

It is possible to turn around the outside view of an area - look at the campaign to turn Hull around through the City of Culture bid? So many people pulling together and look at the external investment.

If the powers that be hired imaginative PR and marketing people then they could use this film for good. But don't hold your breath.