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Quoted from tonyfordsmicrofro

If our players can't handle a bit of flack from paying supporters they shouldn't regard themselves as professional. It's all part and parcel of the game. They should get a back bone and actually realise why our fans are as drunk off as they are.

I agree to an extent but after 3 games?? The second home game and they get booed.. They've heard so much about the great support, (I do think it is that most of the time) and seen it preseason but draw at home to nuneaton and they get booed..

can we answer the bloody question please? just want answers.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

can we answer the bloody question please? just want answers.

Yes then ;)

jesus these are people who get paid to perform if they cant hack it they should sod off and to say if we all pull in one direction and not get on to them they might start playing again dont make me laugh .jesus some of towns legends must be turning in thier graves or the ones still alive must be laughing thier heads off at some of the comments on this site .

Quoted from fishkeeper

jesus these are people who get paid to perform if they cant hack it they should sod off and to say if we all pull in one direction and not get on to them they might start playing again dont make me laugh .jesus some of towns legends must be turning in thier graves or the ones still alive must be laughing thier heads off at some of the comments on this site .

what's hard about answering the question mate? you agree or disagree?

Well I've heard it all now football fans causing the team to lose.

What on earth do you think other teams do they roll there bloody sleeves up and get on with it that is what they are paid to do by you and me.

Confidence comes with Patience. perseverance and determination when we went on that good run last season people were buzzing players as well.

if you just look at the olympics then you see how much a positive crowd can affect positively so i believe yes fans can help

You actually asked three questions, so I'll answer them very simply for you.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

Can fans have an impact on players performances?

Possibly but a professional footballer should know how to deal with flack from supporters

Quoted from Gary Haddock

negativity can it put them off?

Possibly but a professional footballer should know how to deal with flack from supporters

Quoted from Gary Haddock

possitivity can it help?

Possibly

So, to answer your question, I'm saying possibly/don't know. Maybe you should set up a poll.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Well I've heard it all now football fans causing the team to lose.

What on earth do you think other teams do they roll there bloody sleeves up and get on with it that is what they are paid to do by you and me.

Confidence comes with Patience. perseverance and determination when we went on that good run last season people were buzzing players as well.

do you agree or disagree?

Quoted from tonyfordsmicrofro

You actually asked three questions, so I'll answer them very simply for you.

Possibly but a professional footballer should know how to deal with flack from supporters

Possibly but a professional footballer should know how to deal with flack from supporters

Possibly

So, to answer your question, I'm saying possibly/don't know. Maybe you should set up a poll.

no idea how to do a poll to be honest vbut good idea.

Ok Gary of course it can.

I've done a poll on another thread opinions and that the other thread save using two threads then lol.

It definately can effect the players but what about instead of abusing our own players lets abuse theirs lol

Quoted from Meza

It definately can effect the players but what about instead of abusing our own players lets abuse theirs lol

A shamed to say I do already lol. anything to put the oponents off.

What if you cheer despite a defeat?

I'm saying yes, apart from money thats the whole idea of playing in front of people. Sport needs an audience, footballs audience is unlike any other sports as far as i can make out.

Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner

What if you cheer despite a defeat?

I'd admire that. Because it would show that despite the result you showed pride and wasn't willing to give up and something that should inspire the team.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

Can fans have an impact on players performances? negativity can it put them off? possitivity can it help? my opinion yes it can but to help prove my point I'm asking anyone with sense. sensible answers please.

my opoligies for not reading previous comments,but when i saw this thread i had to comment and say that "i just hope to fcuk that the players dont log on to the fishy to read such negative comments about the 1st 3 games,but reasured players who do actually read this site,that u,d probably be not surprised to find out that half of the fishy,s population dont even know wtf blundell park actually is, ne mind coming to watch the team we love Grimsby town football club fc!

Quoted from flash1

my opoligies for not reading previous comments,but when i saw this thread i had to comment and say that "i just hope to fcuk that the players dont log on to the fishy to read such negative comments about the 1st 3 games,but reasured players who do actually read this site,that u,d probably be not surprised to find out that half of the fishy,s population dont even know wtf blundell park actually is, ne mind coming to watch the team we love Grimsby town football club fc!

this isn't negative, this is quite a good question in my opinion well I was curious. and I will always support town and I hate the negativity too.

I think everyone is going over the top here. I can't remember much in the way of abuse during the game, apart from the usual suspects who rant and rave at every game. Most fans around me just sat there shaking their heads in disbelief. Most have gone way beyond anger now and just seem to have given up all hope. In fact, the players seemed to be abusing each other more than the fans did.

If this question has arisen because of Scotts after match comments about the players, then i think he was referring more to the players stage fright and weight of expectation at playing in front of (what is to them) a big crowd and a big ground compared to what they have experienced before in their careers.

We used to be the underdogs and now we are seen as a big scalp by the so called smaller clubs and the players need to step up to the plate and start performing. The crowd will soon get behind them if and when they do.

I remember Bryan Robson, when he was player manager of Middlesbrough saying that they should be doing better against the likes of Grimsby after we had played them off the pitch. The boot is now on the other foot.

Quoted from ginnywings

I think everyone is going over the top here. I can't remember much in the way of abuse during the game, apart from the usual suspects who rant and rave at every game. Most fans around me just sat there shaking their heads in disbelief. Most have gone way beyond anger now and just seem to have given up all hope. In fact, the players seemed to be abusing each other more than the fans did.

If this question has arisen because of Scotts after match comments about the players, then i think he was referring more to the players stage fright and weight of expectation at playing in front of (what is to them) a big crowd and a big ground compared to what they have experienced before in their careers.

We used to be the underdogs and now we are seen as a big scalp by the so called smaller clubs and the players need to step up to the plate and start performing. The crowd will soon get behind them if and when they do.

I remember Bryan Robson, when he was player manager of Middlesbrough saying that they should be doing better against the likes of Grimsby after we had played them off the pitch. The boot is now on the other foot.

there some giving abuse in the pontoon and there was boos at half time, and agree with the most of you say. I'm just as bad as everyone else and just want some one to blame. the negativity got to me I guess.
but this was purely curiousity with some saying fans may be partly to blame so was curious to see what others thought.

Yesterday we could have sung all kinds of positive things: '.... we're by FAR the greatest team the world has ever seen', '...super black and whites, come thrill me again' and so on... and given a resounding cheer each time one of our players passed the ball out of play and a round of applause when they launched it into the stratosphere. I think I might have enjoyed doing that, just to alleviate the boredom - problem is, the players might think we were taking the ****.

Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner

What if you cheer despite a defeat?

Quoted from Gary Haddock

I'd admire that. Because it would show that despite the result you showed pride and wasn't willing to give up and something that should inspire the team.

So what you're saying is, don't take the PERFORMANCE or EFFORT into account at all !

Just give them a big pat on the back regardless even if they haven't given 100% or don't even care.
Wow, that's really gonna help keep standards up and avoid "journeymen" ! ::)

Don't get me wrong I've often clapped the players off after a defeat if they've put the effort in and it's been a good performance.

But sorry Gary think some of your comments are bordering on utter delusion.
You seem to have no idea what the words "deserved" or "fair" mean.

I wouldn't be suprsed if you're one of these fans I've read saying
"I will cheer the team on even if I have to do it all alone"

(Shakes head bites tongue)

Quoted from Gary Haddock

sensible answers please.

WTF ?! ??)
My god you make aaron rattray look like Princess Diana.

ginny is right this is going way over the top.
You make no attempt to say "small minority of fans" but just say "fans".
If we stereotpye everyone as a potential problem we're in danger of pissing off even the most fair and loyal fans.
Well done ! :-/

Quoted from 1600

My god you make aaron rattray look like Princess Diana.

I think this is my favourite ever Fishy line ;D

Quoted from 1600

So what you're saying is, don't take the PERFORMANCE or EFFORT into account at all !

Just give them a big pat on the back regardless even if they haven't given 100% or don't even care.
Wow, that's really gonna help keep standards up and avoid "journeymen" !  ::)

Don't get me wrong I've often clapped the players off after a defeat if they've put the effort in and it's been a good performance.

But sorry Gary think some of your comments are bordering on utter delusion.
You seem to have no idea what the words "deserved" or "fair" mean.

I wouldn't be suprsed if you're one of these fans I've read saying
"I will cheer the team on even if I have to do it all alone"

(Shakes head bites tongue)

WTF ?!  ??)
My god you make aaron rattray look like Princess Diana.

ginny is right this is going way over the top.
You make no attempt to say "small minority of fans" but just say "fans".
If we stereotpye everyone as a potential problem we're in danger of pissing off even the most fair and loyal fans.
Well done !  :-/

yeh ok get your points though being abit of knob about it. yes must admit I have done some what would look like stereotyping so sorry for that, and as for cheering better than shouting shite and abusive stuff at players or other fans though A? We pay our money just like you do and yes I am the one who says I'll sing on my own by you mentioning that you proved you had no intentions backing the team before the games even start, and so you think its "fair" to boo a team at half time, you think a player "deserves" to be shouted at by fans and abused then A? they should deal with it it's what they're paid to type of attitude, no! Wrong they aren't paid to be shouted at and abused by fans. And if you don't like what I post don't read it.

in any case knobhead this was pure curiousity I wanted to know if fans really can make a difference what's wrong in that? getting enoyed at the urine taking dickheads now if you can't answer a question don't bother idots! and I thought I was dumb. and as most keep saying "we're entitled to our opinions" so don't go round taking the urine out of the less inteligent posters like myself chickhen shits. haven't anything constructive to say or anything descent then urine off! I'm here for the people who will actually speak propperly and act like adults and have respect and if I'm wrong about something there are ways of going round it with out urine taking. grow a set of balls do it to a person face if your brave enough not with a keyboard.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

in any case knobhead this was pure curiousity I wanted to know if fans really can make a difference what's wrong in that? getting enoyed at the urine taking dickheads now if you can't answer a question don't bother idots! and I thought I was dumb. and as most keep saying "we're entitled to our opinions" so don't go round taking the urine out of the less inteligent posters like myself chickhen shits. haven't anything constructive to say or anything descent then urine off! I'm here for the people who will actually speak propperly and act like adults and have respect and if I'm wrong about something there are ways of going round it with out urine taking. grow a set of balls do it to a person face if your brave enough not with a keyboard.

Will someone please go round and confiscate his computer. I cannot type for tears of laughter/frustration/incredulity

Quoted from barralad

Will someone please go round and confiscate his computer. I cannot type for tears of laughter/frustration/incredulity

another tosser, grow up mate no one likes you not even your mother. want to take the urine come ont eh give me your best shot.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

in any case knobhead this was pure curiousity I wanted to know if fans really can make a difference what's wrong in that? getting enoyed at the urine taking dickheads now if you can't answer a question don't bother idots! and I thought I was dumb. and as most keep saying "we're entitled to our opinions" so don't go round taking the urine out of the less inteligent posters like myself chickhen shits. haven't anything constructive to say or anything descent then urine off! I'm here for the people who will actually speak propperly and act like adults and have respect and if I'm wrong about something there are ways of going round it with out urine taking. grow a set of balls do it to a person face if your brave enough not with a keyboard.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

another tosser, grow up mate no one likes you not even your mother. want to take the urine come ont eh give me your best shot.

My mother has been dead for 20 years. I think she liked me though...

But whilst we are on the subject of taking the p**s can I offer you a couple of words of advice?

1. Brevity is the soul of wit

2. Hurling insults at people who don't happen to appreciate your style, manner or post content says far, far more about you than it does them.

idiots with no respect. so brave behind your keyboards.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

idiots with no respect. so brave behind your keyboards.

Gary: you have to earn respect. Bringing someone's mother into a debate and continually calling people knobs etc. can hardly be construed as respectful.

Quoted from barralad

My mother has been dead for 20 years. I think she liked me though...

But whilst we are on the subject of taking the p**s can I offer you a couple of words of advice?

1. Brevity is the soul of wit

2. Hurling insults at people who don't happen to appreciate your style, manner or post content says far, far more about you than it does them.

yeh sorry bout that, but never asked you to like me, and if you don't like my posts why comment on them? what are you trying to acomplish by this action? and manners at least I show respect though admitidly the lost couple of posts wasn't very respectful but was provoked into such actions. and you can't judge some one you don't know.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

yeh sorry bout that, but never asked you to like me, and if you don't like my posts why comment on them? what are you trying to acomplish by this action? and manners at least I show respect though admitidly the lost couple of posts wasn't very respectful but was provoked into such actions. and you can't judge some one you don't know.

Gary: I don't know you and therefore neither like or dislike you as a person. The post you just quoted was meant as a genuine attempt to help you to stop making a bit of a plonker of yourself. Sorry if that sounds patronising but you are rapidly becoming a figure of fun on here. This will override any good points you happen to make.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

idiots with no respect. so brave behind your keyboards.

thing is fella you constanly go round picking and picking not just you either there's about 3, 4 others too bunch of idiots and you don't just do it to me. Why if you don't like other people's post (no matter who it is) do you lower yourself to urine taking? no one deserves that. and how old are you 12?

Quoted from barralad

Gary: I don't know you and therefore neither like or dislike you as a person. The post you just quoted was meant as a genuine attempt to help you to stop making a bit of a plonker of yourself. Sorry if that sounds patronising but you are rapidly becoming a figure of fun on here. This will override any good points you happen to make.

ah ok ah see why couldn't you talk this straight in the first place? I can take that and will keep it mind.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

thing is fella you constanly go round picking and picking not just you either there's about 3, 4 others too bunch of idiots and you don't just do it to me. Why if you don't like other people's post (no matter who it is) do you lower yourself to urine taking? no one deserves that. and how old are you 12?

Gary: I think you've quoted the wrong post unless you are having a conversation with yourself.

It depends on the content I guess. There are a lot of posts on here that I think are ridiculous. I happen to think all of the posts calling for the heads of our two managers at this early stage of the season fall into this category. However I'm old enough (oh and I'm considerably older than 12-my eldest grandson is 16) to understand that it is a board for opinions of people who support Grimsby Town. It actually takes a lot for me to resort to mickey taking but you've got me to that point. I could just block your posts but then I'd miss something sensible probably.

Quoted from barralad

Gary: I think you've quoted the wrong post unless you are having a conversation with yourself.

It depends on the content I guess. There are a lot of posts on here that I think are ridiculous. I happen to think all of the posts calling for the heads of our two managers at this early stage of the season fall into this category. However I'm old enough (oh and I'm considerably older than 12-my eldest grandson is 16) to understand that it is a board for opinions of people who support Grimsby Town. It actually takes a lot for me to resort to mickey taking but you've got me to that point. I could just block your posts but then I'd miss something sensible probably.

na I'm just taking everthing wrong way at the moment it would seem. but this Can the fans effect players and that was just pure curiousity. so sorry but now I see where you and a couple of others are comming from now , I can take it more light heartedly like.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

as for cheering better than shouting shite and abusive stuff at players or other fans though A? We pay our money just like you do

Why do you assume I'm "one of them" ?
I don't like abuse either but I'm not gonna blame the "fans" because most "fans" are supportive of the team.

Quoted from Gary Haddock

and yes I am the one who says I'll sing on my own by you mentioning that you proved you had no intentions backing the team before the games even start

Completely lost me there !

Quoted from Gary Haddock

and so you think its "fair" to boo a team at half time, you think a player "deserves" to be shouted at by fans and abused then A?

Course I don't.
I think you're just lashing out defensively so won't argue but hope you'll see my point.
It's not a case of condoning (arguably) poor behaviour, it's a case of being careful you don't tar everyone who comes to support the team with the same brush.
If you remember I was the one who made the point fans could perhaps try to give a little more credit when it was deserved.
But there's no point going to extremes and disregarding people's feelings and turning it into an "us and them" situation.

I admire your passion but you've got to respect and accept people who have a slightly different view.
Easier said than done but it's all too easy to think if someone disagrees with you, they must be wrong or think the exact opposite to you.
I know - I've been there myself !

Quoted from Gary Haddock

Quoted from Gary Haddock

idiots with no respect. so brave behind your keyboards.

thing is fella you constanly go round picking and picking not just you either there's about 3, 4 others too bunch of idiots and you don't just do it to me. Why if you don't like other people's post (no matter who it is) do you lower yourself to urine taking? no one deserves that. and how old are you 12?

;D Gaz you've split my sides with that gem, a workmate of mine used to talk to himself in front of the Taliban, we all thought he was doing it to spook them but it turned out he was a bit tapped and was sent on a basket weaving course. How we laughed at the time but the nutter had over 100 rounds and a full mag fitted with one in the chamber ??), ever tried basket weaving Gaz ;D

Quoted from 1600

Why do you assume I'm "one of them" ?
I don't like abuse either but I'm not gonna blame the "fans" because most "fans" are supportive of the team.

Completely lost me there !

Course I don't.
I think you're just lashing out defensively so won't argue but hope you'll see my point.
It's not a case of condoning (arguably) poor behaviour, it's a case of being careful you don't tar everyone who comes to support the team with the same brush.
If you remember I was the one who made the point fans could perhaps try to give a little more credit when it was deserved.
But there's no point going to extremes and disregarding people's feelings and turning it into an "us and them" situation.

I admire your passion but you've got to respect and accept people who have a slightly different view.
Easier said than done but it's all too easy to think if someone disagrees with you, they must be wrong or think the exact opposite to you.
I know - I've been there myself !

yeh middle was just me being a knob and yes I'm starting to come round and understand like I said once I'm still learning.

I don't if I'm wrong or if I'm going over the top and some one with straight talk will put me in my place don't mind that one bit. I don't always makes sense definately not very good at explaining things and sorry some stuff I said get mixed up with others, I don't read names just the comments and soemtimes quote the wrong person like a mad man lol.

Quoted from Marinerz93

thing is fella you constanly go round picking and picking not just you either there's about 3, 4 others too bunch of idiots and you don't just do it to me. Why if you don't like other people's post (no matter who it is) do you lower yourself to urine taking? no one deserves that. and how old are you 12?

Quoted from Gary Haddock

;D Gaz you've split my sides with that gem, a workmate of mine used to talk to himself in front of the Taliban, we all thought he was doing it to spook them but it turned out he was a bit tapped and was sent on a basket weaving course. How we laughed at the time but the nutter had over 100 rounds and a full mag fitted with one in the chamber ??), ever tried basket weaving Gaz ;D

going mental lol. need my eyes testing I think lol.[/quote]

definately need my eyes testing lol.

Gaz, you need to use your fingers instead of mashing the keyboard with your fist or head, I find it the best way to get your point across without looking like a total nut job ;D

lmao too late already look like a nut job.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Gaz, you need to use your fingers instead of mashing the keyboard with your fist or head, I find it the best way to get your point across without looking like a total nut job ;D

That made me laugh out loud or LOL as Gaz would no doubt say.

I daren't quote anyone anymore it went all wierd on me, looks like I was quoting myself lmao

Quoted from Gary Haddock

I daren't quote anyone anymore it went all wierd on me, looks like I was quoting myself lmao

Quite ;D

Quoted from ginnywings

That made me laugh out loud or LOL as Gaz would no doubt say.

Gary no need to put yourself down, be submissive or not have your say.

tbh you're right really - if people don't like it then it's tough titty !

Point is, it's meant to be "debate" and it's all about seeing different viewpoints isn't it ?
Fact you can see others points of view is much credit to you. (there's certainly a few nobheads on here who don't !)

Anyway don't ever feel like you can't post what want.
Just expect to be questioned or challenged over it if you do.
There's a jungle of weird and wonderful opinions out there !
Hope that doesn't sound patronizing, just trying to help...

Quoted from Marinerz93

Quite ;D

the faces I was pulling was much worse than that lol.

Wow, there certainly are some sensitive people on here.

It's like treading on egg shells look we all deep down love GTFC otherwise we wouldn't bother coming on here.

I know and everybody else knows we desperately need a win kick start our season off, you can bet your bottom dollar that Fenty,Scott, Hurst and everbody at BP are feeling just as frustrated as we are.

This personal abuse and blame culture is getting us no where.

COME ON PEOPLE OF GRIMSBY WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS!

Quoted from ginnywings

I think everyone is going over the top here. I can't remember much in the way of abuse during the game, apart from the usual suspects who rant and rave at every game. Most fans around me just sat there shaking their heads in disbelief. Most have gone way beyond anger now and just seem to have given up all hope. In fact, the players seemed to be abusing each other more than the fans did.

If this question has arisen because of Scotts after match comments about the players, then i think he was referring more to the players stage fright and weight of expectation at playing in front of (what is to them) a big crowd and a big ground compared to what they have experienced before in their careers.

We used to be the underdogs and now we are seen as a big scalp by the so called smaller clubs and the players need to step up to the plate and start performing. The crowd will soon get behind them if and when they do.

I remember Bryan Robson, when he was player manager of Middlesbrough saying that they should be doing better against the likes of Grimsby after we had played them off the pitch. The boot is now on the other foot.

Spot on Ginny

i don't see what can be achieved by booing the team off at half time when its 0-0 and there's a full 45 minutes to play. although they are professionals and should be able to deal with the excrement fans give them, they are only human and surely the points lost in the previous two games having been in the driving seat in both will have shattered their confidence. However, am all up for letting the team know how we feel at the end whether that be booing because they've been excrement or cheering because they've been great they deserve to get a reaction but booing at half time or during the game helps nobody.

To answer your question... Yes.

Thinking about it, if i was playing football and i had people backing me and cheering me on it'd make me up my game. It'd give me a buzz and make me push that little bit more.
Booing, well that can go one of two ways. It could make a player think intercourse it i'm trying my best and it's not good enough or it could make them think that they'll try prove them wrong. Me, in all honestly, I am the 1st one. If i got boo'ed my performance would drop. Maybe that shows I'm a weak character but from experience it doesn't help my game being boo'ed.

yes it can if you cheer your team on the town players will do good and create chance's if people boo them and being quiet or negative there going to play bad the town fans must play there part this season to active to club goals this season that is getting the club back were we belong in the football league if the fans don't like us signing don't come but we are cheering are team on so they can play well some people are negative or town are excrement playing bad booing them and saying getting relegated but if town win then people who were judging them they will be up there behind no offense this is my opinion what i think anyway finliy my account working on here up the mariners!

Quoted from GTFC STEEL

yes it can if you cheer your team on the town players will do good and create chance's if people boo them and being quiet or negative there going to play bad the town fans must play there part this season to active to club goals this season that is getting the club back were we belong in the football league if the fans don't like us signing don't come but we are cheering are team on so they can play well some people are negative or town are excrement playing bad booing them and saying getting relegated but if town win then people who were judging them they will be up there behind no offense this is my opinion what i think anyway finliy my account working on here up the mariners!

anyone else manage to read that without taking a breath?.