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Posted by: aaron rattray, July 17, 2011, 2:18pm
we have done the worst goalkeeper why not defender?

jude stirling- looked a fish out of the water long throw was all he was good at
Posted by: maxfox44, July 17, 2011, 2:32pm; Reply: 1
Tony Crane, let his team mates down too often seeing red.
Posted by: mr viv, July 17, 2011, 2:47pm; Reply: 2
Been soooooooooooooo many but for me although not sure if its 10 yrs but Ashley Fickling...
Posted by: Les Brechin, July 17, 2011, 2:48pm; Reply: 3
Matt Heywood.
Posted by: maxfox44, July 17, 2011, 2:50pm; Reply: 4
Oh god Les, forgot about Heywood!
Posted by: vuvuzela_hater, July 17, 2011, 2:50pm; Reply: 5
has to be david beharall.  we would have been two goals up on Liverpool if it hadn't been for his wavey hand.   8)  but seriously though, I'd say we haven't had really bad centre half's for a while.  tony crane was bad but still did well for us in a excrement squad overall
Posted by: we will return, July 17, 2011, 2:55pm; Reply: 6
Heywood for me, although Stirling was fairly poor I always found him entertaining.
Posted by: WackyCod, July 17, 2011, 2:57pm; Reply: 7
Heywood no doubt about it
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, July 17, 2011, 2:59pm; Reply: 8
Tom Newey, lazy, shirt filling, crap haircutted twit. Always to the soft option, a player thicker than Bore but not nearly as quick and therefore unable to make up for his cerebral deficiencies. Thought he could take a FK when he simply couldn't. He just made my blood boil watching him.

Probably not actually the worst defender in the past 10 years, but I didn't like him so he's on the list from my point of view.
Posted by: marinette, July 17, 2011, 3:03pm; Reply: 9
I didn't like Ronnie Bull.
Posted by: GrimsbyOllie, July 17, 2011, 3:08pm; Reply: 10
Heywood
Posted by: Mariner Ronnie, July 17, 2011, 3:20pm; Reply: 11
heywood has to be the out and out worst town PLAYER i've ever seen
Posted by: Super Clive, July 17, 2011, 3:24pm; Reply: 12
Jamie Clarke, why just male masturbation
Posted by: Biccys, July 17, 2011, 3:28pm; Reply: 13
Clarke was signed as replacement for Macca was he not...?
Thread ends.
Posted by: KK_DOG, July 17, 2011, 3:45pm; Reply: 14
Ben Futcher was pretty poor. Think we were expecting him to be as good as his dad.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, July 17, 2011, 4:04pm; Reply: 15
Ray Lancaster - I remember having a conversation with Icey about this lad. He was a good player from Rotherham and he was bought to replace the injured Ron Cockerill and he came with a good reputation and had played well against us.

In his home debut it became obvious that the lad couldn't run, he literally could not run.

If the ball came near he was reasonably OK but for most of the game he just stood still. The game went on passing him by and he just got slower and slower. The next game was the same, and the next. In those days in the 60s there were no subs so Town were playing with 10 men for most of these games. He was so poor he just had to be dropped.

A week or so later the explanation came in the Telegraph that he was having trouble breathing the sea air at Cleethorpes. Apparently it was thicker and cleaner and more full of ozone than what he was used to and he was struggling to train, let alone play. Whether this was true or not I can't say but in those days I always believed what the Telegraph told me.

Lancaster hardly played again for us so it was money down the drain. But I think he went on to play a bit for Boston and that he lived locally. Very strange little saga.
Posted by: Youngy, July 17, 2011, 4:50pm; Reply: 16
Ronnie Bull for me, will never forget the worse single defensive performance I've seen that he put in on Good Friday against Bury away. Dreadful
Posted by: bobbyturtle, July 17, 2011, 4:56pm; Reply: 17
Heywood
Posted by: aaron rattray, July 17, 2011, 5:04pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Youngy
Ronnie Bull for me, will never forget the worse single defensive performance I've seen that he put in on Good Friday against Bury away. Dreadful


i remember that 2 or 3-0
Posted by: Wrawby_Mariner, July 17, 2011, 5:17pm; Reply: 19
In my lifetime certainly Richard Hope
Posted by: aaron rattray, July 17, 2011, 5:22pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner
In my lifetime certainly Richard Hope


he scored in a friendly he rifled it in in fron of the osmond end
Posted by: Wrawby_Mariner, July 17, 2011, 5:24pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from aaron rattray


he scored in a friendly he rifled it in in fron of the osmond end


Friendlies are exactly that, for a player of his ilk only being able to make 7 appearances is poor.
Posted by: Paddymariner, July 17, 2011, 5:25pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from KK_DOG
Ben Futcher was pretty poor. Think we were expecting him to be as good as his dad.


Futcher was not poor. Heywood, Hope, Samuels, Bull, Downey, Crane, Clarke and Watt were poor.
At the time Futcher was here he had to compete for a place with Jones and Whittle. At the age of 30, he's still playing
at a level above us.
Posted by: moosey_club, July 17, 2011, 5:45pm; Reply: 23
Ahem....ladies and gentleman.....i present to you.....Terry Barwick !!
Posted by: lowerfindus, July 17, 2011, 5:53pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from moosey_club
Ahem....ladies and gentleman.....i present to you.....Terry Barwick !!


That will be Terry Barwick the midfielder, perfect choice for worst defender.
Posted by: KnaresboroughMariner, July 17, 2011, 5:58pm; Reply: 25
Bull  Heywood  A. Butler  Clarke

Beat that for a back 4!

(Yes, I know Butler was good at Scunny and still plays 12 leagues above us, but he was rubbish in a Town shirt).

Newey and Stirling can have places on the bench.
Posted by: Steve_gtfc, July 17, 2011, 7:05pm; Reply: 26
Matt Heywood
Posted by: pseudonym, July 17, 2011, 7:23pm; Reply: 27
Alan Neilson
Posted by: moosey_club, July 17, 2011, 7:29pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from lowerfindus


That will be Terry Barwick the midfielder, perfect choice for worst defender.


Was he? Thought he arrived as a left back....anyway you defend from the front !!
Posted by: mariner91, July 17, 2011, 8:27pm; Reply: 29
Heywood got to be.
Posted by: ticker_1610, July 17, 2011, 8:34pm; Reply: 30
The ex no 5 who bollocked others for his mistakes then allegedly hit a younger member of the squad, even hate saying his name, Hwd.
Posted by: hook line and sinker, July 17, 2011, 8:40pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from Paddymariner


Futcher was not poor. Heywood, Hope, Samuels, Bull, Downey, Crane, Clarke and Watt were poor.
At the time Futcher was here he had to compete for a place with Jones and Whittle. At the age of 30, he's still playing
at a level above us.


Only thing i remember downey doing was scoring a last minute header from a corner away at wrexham in the slade play-off season on new years eve,town was awful that day and it was certainly  smash and grab
Posted by: Fishfinger, July 17, 2011, 8:42pm; Reply: 32
Split between Matt heywood  and jamie clarke
Posted by: newfootballer, July 17, 2011, 8:45pm; Reply: 33
Ray Lancaster - I remember having a conversation with Icey about this lad. He was a good player from Rotherham and he was bought to replace the injured Ron Cockerill and he came with a good reputation and had played well against us.

In his home debut it became obvious that the lad couldn't run, he literally could not run.

If the ball came near he was reasonably OK but for most of the game he just stood still. The game went on passing him by and he just got slower and slower. The next game was the same, and the next. In those days in the 60s there were no subs so Town were playing with 10 men for most of these games. He was so poor he just had to be dropped.

A week or so later the explanation came in the Telegraph that he was having trouble breathing the sea air at Cleethorpes. Apparently it was thicker and cleaner and more full of ozone than what he was used to and he was struggling to train, let alone play. Whether this was true or not I can't say but in those days I always believed what the Telegraph told me.

Lancaster hardly played again for us so it was money down the drain. But I think he went on to play a bit for Boston and that he lived locally. Very strange little saga.


Where on earth did you conjure up some of the things in your post, you alleged that Ray Lancaster lacked in.

The statement that the Telegraph reported that he was struggling with his breathing because the Cleethorpes sea air was thicker and cleaner than where Ray came from which is Rotheram.

Now I am going to stick up for Ray because I know him well, I was a young lad when I first met Ray, when you join a football club you listen to players who have been around longer than yourself.
I learnt a lot of things of Ray when I was kid.

Did you know that Ray was on the edge of the England under twenty one team till he had to have the cartidges in both legs addressed and he was never the same again. came to Grimsby a great football professional I learnt a lot of Ray Lancaster and in my eyes you have got the story all wrong Ray Lancaster is now to me a realy nice person and always helped the young lads at G.T.F.C.
newfootballer
Posted by: mr viv, July 17, 2011, 8:50pm; Reply: 34
;)


Only thing i remember downey doing was scoring a last minute header from a corner away at wrexham in the slade play-off season on new years eve,town was awful that day and it was certainly  smash and grab


That is prity much my claim to fame that proved that me and anyone of the 120 or so that went that we were propa propa football and indeed grimsby town fans!!!..... i mean new yrs day 3pm ko in bloody wales fair play to me and the 100 odd
Posted by: hook line and sinker, July 17, 2011, 8:58pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from mr viv
;)

That is prity much my claim to fame that proved that me and anyone of the 120 or so that went that we were propa propa football and indeed grimsby town fans!!!..... i mean new yrs day 3pm ko in bloody wales fair play to me and the 100 odd


i'm almost positive it was new years eve though? cracking 3 points on the back foot all game then walk away with 3points,thats when your a good side and lady luck comes into play
Posted by: Les Brechin, July 17, 2011, 9:20pm; Reply: 36
Ray Lancaster - I remember having a conversation with Icey about this lad. He was a good player from Rotherham and he was bought to replace the injured Ron Cockerill and he came with a good reputation and had played well against us.

In his home debut it became obvious that the lad couldn't run, he literally could not run.

If the ball came near he was reasonably OK but for most of the game he just stood still. The game went on passing him by and he just got slower and slower. The next game was the same, and the next. In those days in the 60s there were no subs so Town were playing with 10 men for most of these games. He was so poor he just had to be dropped.

A week or so later the explanation came in the Telegraph that he was having trouble breathing the sea air at Cleethorpes. Apparently it was thicker and cleaner and more full of ozone than what he was used to and he was struggling to train, let alone play. Whether this was true or not I can't say but in those days I always believed what the Telegraph told me.

Lancaster hardly played again for us so it was money down the drain. But I think he went on to play a bit for Boston and that he lived locally. Very strange little saga.


I didn't realise that Ron Cockerill had played for us in the last 10 years.
Posted by: tashee69, July 17, 2011, 9:21pm; Reply: 37
Ray Lancaster - I remember having a conversation with Icey about this lad. He was a good player from Rotherham and he was bought to replace the injured Ron Cockerill and he came with a good reputation and had played well against us.

In his home debut it became obvious that the lad couldn't run, he literally could not run.

If the ball came near he was reasonably OK but for most of the game he just stood still. The game went on passing him by and he just got slower and slower. The next game was the same, and the next. In those days in the 60s there were no subs so Town were playing with 10 men for most of these games. He was so poor he just had to be dropped.

A week or so later the explanation came in the Telegraph that he was having trouble breathing the sea air at Cleethorpes. Apparently it was thicker and cleaner and more full of ozone than what he was used to and he was struggling to train, let alone play. Whether this was true or not I can't say but in those days I always believed what the Telegraph told me.

Lancaster hardly played again for us so it was money down the drain. But I think he went on to play a bit for Boston and that he lived locally. Very strange little saga.


Am I in a time warp or is the thread the last 10 years !!  ;) ;D ;D
Posted by: tashee69, July 17, 2011, 9:28pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
Tom Newey, lazy, shirt filling, crap haircutted twit. Always to the soft option, a player thicker than Bore but not nearly as quick and therefore unable to make up for his cerebral deficiencies. Thought he could take a FK when he simply couldn't. He just made my blood boil watching him.

Probably not actually the worst defender in the past 10 years, but I didn't like him so he's on the list from my point of view.


You missed out his wonderful ability of showing players inside to shoot resulting in goals. Can remember him doing that so many times when we was trying for our first win under MN.
Posted by: tashee69, July 17, 2011, 9:30pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Les Brechin


I didn't realise that Ron Cockerill had played for us in the last 10 years.


Damn your faster typing !!  :P
Posted by: Marinerz93, July 17, 2011, 9:34pm; Reply: 40
Worst defender regarding value for money would be Matt 'total dog excrement' Heywood.

Worst defender for time on the pitch = Tom 'Dime bar' Newey.  In fact if we had a penny for every cross Newey allowed into the box we'd have more money than the Euro lottery winner the other day.
Posted by: Kris2, July 17, 2011, 9:51pm; Reply: 41
We've had some really horrific defenders in recent times havn't we. Jamie Clarke with his brilliant ability to pass the ball to the other team,Richard Hope for being on the pitch and not really doing anything at all, Tom Newey for running around like a headless chicken and not tackling EVER and Heywood for being as mobile as a rock and as fast as a Tortoise. The Tortoise would have probably been more use.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, July 17, 2011, 9:58pm; Reply: 42
With regard to Futcher, he was utter excrement because he wasn't called Paul. In fairness, it was like comparing a Golf to a Rolls Royce, the Golf is ok and does a decent job, but whatever it does, it can never possibly be a Rolls Royce and will struggle by comparison every time.
The others mentioned, were Trabants at best.
Posted by: KK_DOG, July 17, 2011, 11:33pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from Paddymariner


Futcher was not poor. Heywood, Hope, Samuels, Bull, Downey, Crane, Clarke and Watt were poor.
At the time Futcher was here he had to compete for a place with Jones and Whittle. At the age of 30, he's still playing
at a level above us.


Futcher was poor in my opinion, apologies if you don't agree with it.

Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, July 17, 2011, 11:46pm; Reply: 44
Deadwood no competition, he flipping dicked at the vale game ducked all he has to do is leave his head there and he stops a goal but he flipping ducked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Daveeee, July 17, 2011, 11:56pm; Reply: 45
Matt Heywood, never heard such a load cheer at BP than when he got subbed off after like 30mins  ;D
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, July 18, 2011, 8:29am; Reply: 46
Quoted from newfootballer
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Where on earth did you conjure up some of the things in your post, you alleged that Ray Lancaster lacked in.

The statement that the Telegraph reported that he was struggling with his breathing because the Cleethorpes sea air was thicker and cleaner than where Ray came from which is Rotheram.

Now I am going to stick up for Ray because I know him well, I was a young lad when I first met Ray, when you join a football club you listen to players who have been around longer than yourself.
I learnt a lot of things of Ray when I was kid.

Did you know that Ray was on the edge of the England under twenty one team till he had to have the cartidges in both legs addressed and he was never the same again. came to Grimsby a great football professional I learnt a lot of Ray Lancaster and in my eyes you have got the story all wrong Ray Lancaster is now to me a realy nice person and always helped the young lads at G.T.F.C.
newfootballer



No need to get your knickers in a twist Dave. :) You don't need to "stick up for Ray" as far as I am concerned. I am only repeating the story that was told at the time. I did say he came with a good reputation, he was a good player, so it was a bit of a surprise when he made his debut and played like that and that's what the GT said some little time later. Yes, as I mention, he went on to play locally and yes I am aware he helped a lot of players to develop.

It just struck me that the reason given was very odd. Were the knee problems the real reason for Ray Lancaster only playing a few games then? And did he do them both in at Rotherham before he was signed here? Perhaps the club didn't want to admit that, I don't know.

And yes Les, it is a bit more than 10 years. ;) But nobody else seems to stick to thread titles so I thought, why should I? :)
Posted by: mariner2000, July 18, 2011, 8:31am; Reply: 47
very good player cards Daveeee
Posted by: flash1, July 18, 2011, 9:04am; Reply: 48
peter beagrie
Posted by: ginnywings, July 18, 2011, 9:14am; Reply: 49
Tom Newey for me.

Thought he was a footballer in the Roberto Carlos mould and he wasn't.Lost count of the goals conceded from his side of the pitch and the penalties he gave away in our relegation season.

A non tackling fullback who let wingers do as they pleased.

Heywood a close second but thankfully,he didn't get on the pitch much.
Posted by: ticker_1610, July 18, 2011, 9:24am; Reply: 50
Remember that clearly definitely purposefully moved away from the flight of the ball, a bully and a coward. Someone did say that the player had been injured in a game for Brentford in similar circumstances that's why he ducked? Deffo worst defender in the last 10 years!!
Posted by: DubaiMariner, July 18, 2011, 10:16am; Reply: 51
Quoted from mr viv
;)

That is prity much my claim to fame that proved that me and anyone of the 120 or so that went that we were propa propa football and indeed grimsby town fans!!!..... i mean new yrs day 3pm ko in bloody wales fair play to me and the 100 odd


Not much of a claim to fame is it? Good on you for patting yourself on the back as well, very humble and propa of ya geez
Posted by: brad_gtfc, July 18, 2011, 5:13pm; Reply: 52


Only thing i remember downey doing was scoring a last minute header from a corner away at wrexham in the slade play-off season on new years eve,town was awful that day and it was certainly  smash and grab



Wasn't it him and lump centre half that day? I could be wrong though.
Posted by: brad_gtfc, July 18, 2011, 5:13pm; Reply: 53
Quoted from flash1
peter beagrie


He's a winger. Try again.
Posted by: thornemariner, July 18, 2011, 5:19pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
Tom Newey, lazy, shirt filling, crap haircutted twit. Always to the soft option, a player thicker than Bore but not nearly as quick and therefore unable to make up for his cerebral deficiencies. Thought he could take a FK when he simply couldn't. He just made my blood boil watching him.

Probably not actually the worst defender in the past 10 years, but I didn't like him so he's on the list from my point of view.


I didn't like Newey either though I couldn't put it as well as you. Heywood was the worst but Newey got on my nerves with the lazy hoof which always put us straight back under pressure when it invariably went to an opposition player. When he got to the ball that is.
Posted by: ponnyfan, July 18, 2011, 8:48pm; Reply: 55
Matt Heywood - total UC
Posted by: barralass, July 18, 2011, 9:03pm; Reply: 56
I'm with all the NEWEY haters on this one.
I can't think of how many times he got caught out by a fast right winger and got skinned for a cross leading to a goal.
Really gets my goat that he went on to Bury & now Rotherham in the League whilst we were slipping out of it.
Sadly shows how far we've fallen when the now shaven headed pratt looked competant against us on Saturday.
(Yes, for those at the match, it was Newey no.3 playing against us, moved from left back to centre back in 2nd half )
Posted by: Manchester Mariner, July 18, 2011, 9:54pm; Reply: 57
Matt Heywood, the worst defender I have ever seen, he was and probably still is the defensive definition of 'a liability'.
Posted by: biggles9999, July 18, 2011, 9:55pm; Reply: 58
Quoted from brad_gtfc



Wasn't it him and lump centre half that day? I could be wrong though.


Newey and Lump centre back I think, with Downey at left back.
Posted by: aldi_01, July 18, 2011, 10:01pm; Reply: 59
Matt heywood. That game at port vale sticks in my mind. Was so incensed at half time it's the closest I've come to wanting to punch a player or even leave at half time purely because of that players performance. What a girl private.

As for Wrexham, that infamous Downey goal was scores inthe last minute with us a man down I believe and was certainly new years eve, not new years day.
Posted by: pseudonym, July 19, 2011, 5:14pm; Reply: 60
Quoted from aldi_01
Matt heywood. That game at port vale sticks in my mind. Was so incensed at half time it's the closest I've come to wanting to punch a player or even leave at half time purely because of that players performance. What a girl private.

As for Wrexham, that infamous Downey goal was scores inthe last minute with us a man down I believe and was certainly new years eve, not new years day.
New Years Eve 2005

Posted by: goolemariner, July 20, 2011, 9:04am; Reply: 61
Quoted from aldi_01
Matt heywood. That game at port vale sticks in my mind. Was so incensed at half time it's the closest I've come to wanting to punch a player or even leave at half time purely because of that players performance. What a girl private.

As for Wrexham, that infamous Downey goal was scores inthe last minute with us a man down I believe and was certainly new years eve, not new years day.


Certainly remember the Wrexham game. Me and thornemariner stopped for fuel just after leaving the game, got out punching the air shouting 'Mariners' and another Town fan behind us joined in. A real smash-and-grab.

My vote though is Newey. I remember Bradford away, think we lost 2 or 3-0 and Newey was responsible for all their goals. I had a right go at him from the stands (we were behind the goal) and I think Newey's mum walked off in disgust.
Posted by: The Fishman, July 20, 2011, 1:12pm; Reply: 62
tom newey what a f*****g male private
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, July 20, 2011, 1:50pm; Reply: 63
Quoted from goolemariner


Certainly remember the Wrexham game. Me and thornemariner stopped for fuel just after leaving the game, got out punching the air shouting 'Mariners' and another Town fan behind us joined in. A real smash-and-grab.

My vote though is Newey. I remember Bradford away, think we lost 2 or 3-0 and Newey was responsible for all their goals. I had a right go at him from the stands (we were behind the goal) and I think Newey's mum walked off in disgust.


Seeing Newey at Bradford in 2008 made my blood boil....we were 1-0 up after 10 mins or so and could have been 2-0 up and cruising it except for an offside decision where the ball was touched in when already going over the line

Then from a comfortable position Newey decided to pass back from the touch line to the centre of our goal teeing up Bradford to get back in to the game and to win it.

Bad as he was that day and at many other times, my choice for being a sheer let down after us being led to believe we had a great new rock at the heart of our defence goes to Heywood
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, July 20, 2011, 1:55pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from barralass
I'm with all the NEWEY haters on this one.
I can't think of how many times he got caught out by a fast right winger and got skinned for a cross leading to a goal.
Really gets my goat that he went on to Bury & now Rotherham in the League whilst we were slipping out of it.
Sadly shows how far we've fallen when the now shaven headed pratt looked competant against us on Saturday.
(Yes, for those at the match, it was Newey no.3 playing against us, moved from left back to centre back in 2nd half )


Newey N° 3. Good job you explained that otherwise we could have been confused!  ;)

Actually when I saw his hair so short, it crossed my mind it might have just been Nick Fenton who'd hijacked the shirt and was refusing to move on from t'Millers

Posted by: aaron rattray, July 20, 2011, 4:16pm; Reply: 65
newey

still excrement
Posted by: Gainsbro_Mariner, July 20, 2011, 11:51pm; Reply: 66
Matthew Heywood
Alan Neilson
Jamie Clarke
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