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August 4, 2022, 9:42am

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"Now this will start a pile on with oodles of Red X's  (Must find out what they actually mean...."

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Quoted from Croxton

Feel free to 'other' the Trust Board when Bax resigned but references to 'them' and collective infers that you cling to past prejudices rather easily. How about living in the present a little more whilst being informed about the past rather than the other way round? Aldi's post expresses that balance very well.


I'm not sure why you are getting hot under the collar. I commented on Bax's post reiterating my long held opinion that the Trust, although well meaning, was not working in the wider fans interest by failing to disclose how poisonous Fenty was. No prejudice just an opinion of the situation at the time.

If someone posts something about the work the current Trust do I may or may not express an opinion on that.
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The reason that Operation Promotion was a terrible thing for Fenty and co is because they couldn't claim the plaudits for it after it worked.


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Think the Trust is now going the right way I was one of the biggest critic of the Trust under Fenty. I think he regarded them as useful idiots,and they should have stood up to him,as Bax did.


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I tried driving yesterday while constantly looking backwards……hit a bloomin’ tree.  Still, I’ve got a neck brace on now and can only look forwards.  Alls well that ends well eh?
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Quoted from lew chaterleys lover


I'm not sure why you are getting hot under the collar. I commented on Bax's post reiterating my long held opinion that the Trust, although well meaning, was not working in the wider fans interest by failing to disclose how poisonous Fenty was. No prejudice just an opinion of the situation at the time.

If someone posts something about the work the current Trust do I may or may not express an opinion on that.



I think most fans already knew how poisonous Fenty was. Perhaps the Trust felt that further resignations would achieve very little . Outside or inside tent discussions would have been prevalent.

My collar remains cool. I was a tad patronising though for which I apologise!
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I'd never join the Trust after the 200k debacle because what would they do next when the pressure on!!!
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I'd never join the Trust after the 200k debacle because what would they do next when the pressure on!!!


If there is a next time then I’m sure they would react differently. Clearly the new regime value what the current Trust offer as they work closely with them. If you remain stuck in the past you never move forward that, ironically, was one of major faults of the JF era.
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Quoted from Croxton

I think most fans already knew how poisonous Fenty was. Perhaps the Trust felt that further resignations would achieve very little . Outside or inside tent discussions would have been prevalent.

My collar remains cool. I was a tad patronising though for which I apologise!



No worries- it would not be a forum without disparate views.

I think you might be surprised at how many fans thought JF was doing a reasonable job in the circumstances.  They saw him loaning the club money, climbing the floodlights to change a bulb and installing all the mod cons like a sink for the ladies. They thought benign meant something different than wanting every single penny back despite having all the control, the kudos and all the perks of owning a professional club for all those years.

I might have thought that myself had I not seen him in business circles, and through my business contacts who told me he was impossible to work with and not in any way collegiate. They told me stories that would make you laugh and cry at the same time.

In any event you have to go through these trials and tribulations to get to a better place but I didn't expect it to take the best part of two decades which is why I have always been irritated that the Trust willingly or unwillingly gave him a cloak of respectability.

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Quoted from GrimPol
For a man that "left the building" some time ago JF is still haunting some on this forum.
They're the ones who had such foresight that they knew JF would mess it up before he even joined.
And the ones who are self-flagellating with cat o nine tails and they should have done this or that whilst they could,
Just stop it, you're making my pixels run on my screen.

Now this will start a pile on with oodles of Red X's (Must find out what they actually mean. I'll pretend that they are signes of affection for now  
It could be much much worse, but it wasn't.  Not that long ago people were sighing and pointing to Scunthorpe as a model we should follow. Then there's Macclesfield, Oldham, Bury, Rushden & D, Chester, Aldershot remember them ???
So yes JF ran the management side bizarrely, with more U-turns than the government,  but the financial side was good. Yes, I know you just choked on your coffee, but the fact that the club is paying off its debt earlier means it was a low-debt club. You can't have it both ways.
And there are the media (Poor old Matt Dean and Radio Humberside). They are all over Grimsby now but wait untill we have a few bad runs, and just when you need them most, the knives will be out. Let's not forget RH's  roll in one of our manager's demise. Trust the media? As much as I trust some on this site giving PH a bad time Feb/Mar/April. Short memories eh?

We have a club, a ground, a manager, a squad, a few points wouldn't go amiss, and you are argueing about ancient history.
ATAW  UTM  PHBAWA  SWWF   etc


It's easy to save money when you let the stadium and training ground fall into a terrible state because you won't pay for any upkeep. Even easier if you oversee the worst period on the pitch in the club's history.

1878 have already spent a lot of money from their own pockets improving the training ground and the stadium to finally bring them up to the required standard. The only reason Fenty didn't create financial issues was because the tight git allowed stuff to become run down instead.
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