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i think its a good deal for the club, especially to get him back for the season
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Absolutely shocked that we get to loan him for the rest of the season to be honest. I know that was rumoured but I couldn't see Luton doing that.

It essentially means we only actually lose him at the end of the season, when we would've done anyway, but have got a fee for him as opposed to him walking for nothing. That makes it a fantastic deal for us.


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Think all parties have done well here, seems like he's had a contract under his nose from the club but hasn't signed it. The best possible outcome was to get a fee for him, and also keep him for the season, well done to the club


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You now need a striker, Hursty, pretty dam quick.

Hope John doesn't suffer a  serious injury and Luton want their money back!
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I guess Luton are paying a fee to avoid the battle for his signature in the summer but I'm surprised he's back on loan for the full season. Credit to the club for getting that part of the deal over the line. We can't stand in a players way when it comes to progressing up the pyramid but the blueprint is there for any players wanting to use us as a stepping stone.
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Why are you gutted?
We keep him for the same amount of time as we would if we didn't sell him.
And get money for him.

Perfect deal for the club.
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Quoted from Morris Minor
You now need a striker, Hursty, pretty dam quick.

Hope John doesn't suffer a  serious injury and Luton want their money back!




they cant, he's their player and the contracts signed
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Quoted from Tommy
Absolutely shocked that we get to loan him for the rest of the season to be honest. I know that was rumoured but I couldn't see Luton doing that.

It essentially means we only actually lose him at the end of the season, when we would've done anyway, but have got a fee for him as opposed to him walking for nothing. That makes it a fantastic deal for us.


I think it’s a great deal really. Gives us the funds now to go out and bring in a couple of much needed top forwards which might have been financially out of reach otherwise, with a full year to plan for McAtee’s replacement.

We now have all the tools to finish off the squad with real intent. All the best to McAtee too, who has been an absolute joy to watch and hopefully will be for the next 9 months.


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Can't argue with that. Money in the bank and another year playing for us. Best of both worlds.
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Now go spend it on dallas or a striker of that calibre
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Gutted? behave yourself. Absolutely amazing piece of business from GTFC. No way did I expect him to be here next season. So to not only get some money for him we also get to keep him for the rest of the season. Absolutely brilliant.
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Great deal for the club and a real no brainer. When McAtee didn't sign the deal we offered him he was always going to leave at the end of the season for free. And there is now a possibility Gy could be playing against him next season if we go up and Luton come down.
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Quoted from Poojah


I think it’s a great deal really. Gives us the funds now to go out and bring in a couple of much needed top forwards which might have been financially out of reach otherwise, with a full year to plan for McAtee’s replacement.

We now have all the tools to finish off the squad with real intent. All the best to McAtee too, who has been an absolute joy to watch and hopefully will be for the next 9 months.



Or maybe more funds to pay off The Leech for good and remove the stench of rotten fish completely.


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Brilliant… soon the biannual ‘Bogle returning???’ rumours shall be replaced with ‘McAtee is coming home’ rumours!
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Quoted from Tommy
Absolutely shocked that we get to loan him for the rest of the season to be honest. I know that was rumoured but I couldn't see Luton doing that.

It essentially means we only actually lose him at the end of the season, when we would've done anyway, but have got a fee for him as opposed to him walking for nothing. That makes it a fantastic deal for us.


I don’t think the club would have done the deal without the loan back clause in all honesty.
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I assume the season-long loan will be able to be cut short in January? That tends to be a thing.

It's a win-win for us though. We get money for him while we still can and we get him for the same amount of time had he stayed on his previous contract, provided they don't 'recall' him in Jan. Hopefully we can develop the squad sufficiently before he leaves.
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Do you thnk Luton would have also insisted that by the time we have finished with him next spring he would have had to have his shoulder operation?
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It's a good deal. The thing that makes it is getting him back on loan which is hugely unusual. Mcatee must have had some influence on that decision because he can't have pushed to fight for a spot in Luton's side.
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This is incredibly good business by competent business people. Keep in mind that previously we would have lost the player but got a preseason friendly on a Tuesday night as a reward as well as a dubious sell on clause. This is the best possible scenario for all parties. Let’s hope it either pays F*nty off completely or is immediately reinvested in the current squad.
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Quoted from Morris Minor
You now need a striker, Hursty, pretty dam quick.

Hope John doesn't suffer a  serious injury and Luton want their money back!


Hope we’ve kept the receipt others we’ll get one of those credit notes


He’s one of our loans
He’s one of our loans
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He’s not gone though is he! Fantastic bit of business, if Hurst can find a great striker with the money we have 2 for 1, how good is that! We have to face facts, he would have left at the end of the season so this really is a great deal. UTM!!!
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August 2, 2022, 10:29am
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So, one thing I don't understand is why clubs in the lower Leagues never disclose the transfer fee!
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Our owners are something else how did they pull this off, superb  piece of business
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Okay, yes I'm a little tearful over losing him, but realistic enough to see what's before my eyes, he was potentially leaving end of season anyway (that was pure conjecture because who was to know if anybody would have taken him) yet we get to fill the coffers and keep the player, pretty much a win-win situation.
If I have one reservation it's this, will he be balls out like last season where he had a point to prove. That has now landed him a lucrative deal and a move to the championship. So, does Hurst still make Macatee the first name on the team sheet or has he plans for "one of our own" to be bought as a replacement....
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
Okay, yes I'm a little tearful over losing him, but realistic enough to see what's before my eyes, he was potentially leaving end of season anyway (that was pure conjecture because who was to know if anybody would have taken him) yet we get to fill the coffers and keep the player, pretty much a win-win situation.
If I have one reservation it's this, will he be balls out like last season where he had a point to prove. That has now landed him a lucrative deal and a move to the championship. So, does Hurst still make Macatee the first name on the team sheet or has he plans for "one of our own" to be bought as a replacement....


I think his default setting is ‘balls out’ to be honest. That, and he’ll want to make sure he’s at the front of Luton’s thoughts come the summer.

Provided his shoulder holds up, I expect him to be the John McAtee we know and love.  


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This is excellent business, everyone is a winner.


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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
Okay, yes I'm a little tearful over losing him..




What?! 😂
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Incredible bit of business.

Money in the bank to strengthen and/or buy someone to develop whilst keeping the talent in the building for the rest of the season.

They say you should only fix the roof when the sun shines.  Well, the club aren't just fixing the roof but they're building an extension too.  

Well done.
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With him obviously being on more money as a Luton player I hope Luton will be paying a chunk of his wages now. It could be as much as £100K more than he was getting from us
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Quoted from 123614
So, one thing I don't understand is why clubs in the lower Leagues never disclose the transfer fee!


It's most clubs, it's just that at the top level the media get hold of it and speculate/make up figures/pay someone inside to reveal the details.

The reason for the undisclosed nature is to protect the clubs involved, namely the selling club.  If it's common knowledge that we've got £300k in the bank from the sale of McAtee and then offer Solihull £150k for Dallas, they know we've got more to play with.

Equally so if Luton try and sign a striker from League Two next summer and offer £200k, the selling club can reference the recent history for such a deal.  

I don't know how effective this is as I imagine players and agents, indeed managers too, will all talk and within the game it'll be common knowledge.
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A good deal all round, really.

We get some money but keep the player so don't need to look for an immediate replacement. McAtee gets a pay rise, doesn't have to spend time bedding in at a new club with the season already started, is guaranteed plenty of game time and gets the chance to prove his worth in League Football (fitness allowing). Luton get a good young prospect, playing regularly and the risk of his shoulder injury being an issue is shifted across to us until the summer.

The only way we could lose out here is if he gets injured and we're still committed to paying most of his wages, but that is always a risk in any case.

If he has a blinder of a season and helps us win promotion, we might have lost out on more transfer money, but we aren't really going to complain, are we?
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August 2, 2022, 10:43am
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Thanks for the explanation.
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Great bit of business. Surprised Luton agreed to loan him back - so effectively what they’ve paid for him is what it costs to ‘reserve’ a player to avoid a scramble for his signature next summer.

Makes you wonder if there was a pre-existing relationship between our owners and Luton. Debbie and her team have been talking extensively to lots of other clubs since they took over.

Speculating, of course, but having and maintaining good relationships literally pays off sometimes. This deal is a world away from the relationship we had with Peterborough over the transfer of Bennett way back when, for example.

Given McAtee is a relatively young player I notice there’s no mention of a sell-on clause. Would be good to know if that was part of the deal.

One excellent season at Luton in 23/24 and he could get a big money move to the Prem.


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Great deal for us but the elephant in the room is his shoulder isn't it? I can't believe we can just have him all season and Luton have said not to worry about the op he apparently needs until then?
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This is an absolute win-win. We were only ever going to keep him until next summer anyway, we’d have then been in the lap of the Gods with a tribunal.

Furthermore, it’s no guarantee he would reproduce his form from the end of last season this season. That shoulder injury could flare up and leave us with a massive injury lay off, he could lose form. By this, we’ve cashed in and protected ourselves against any kind of imponderable like that.

If we hadn’t sold him now, we’d have been forced to sell in January when we’d likely have got less cash and never got a loan back clause as part of any deal, cos you’d likely be selling to someone desperate who wants him there and then.

Overall, I can’t see any fault with this deal. Just hope he maintains his form from the end of last season and his legacy is back to back promotions with us!!


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One more promotion please John - Up the McAttee!
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August 2, 2022, 10:53am
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Quoted from fishcake63
Now go spend it on dallas or a striker of that calibre


Fully agree I think we will show plenty of intent from the sale even though he’s back with us etc Taylor injury prone orsi unknown would love to see us go and get 2 quality forwards will see what happens but it’s a great move for the lad and he fully deserves it definetly no hard feeling from me he’s some talent 👏


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Quoted from Maringer
A good deal all round, really.

We get some money but keep the player so don't need to look for an immediate replacement. McAtee gets a pay rise, doesn't have to spend time bedding in at a new club with the season already started, is guaranteed plenty of game time and gets the chance to prove his worth in League Football (fitness allowing). Luton get a good young prospect, playing regularly and the risk of his shoulder injury being an issue is shifted across to us until the summer.

The only way we could lose out here is if he gets injured and we're still committed to paying most of his wages, but that is always a risk in any case.

If he has a blinder of a season and helps us win promotion, we might have lost out on more transfer money, but we aren't really going to complain, are we?


If he had a blinder of a season and we got promoted, he would have gone for pittance at tribunal. The model for us has to be signing players like McAtee with a point to prove and a desire to play higher.
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Quoted from diehardmariner


It's most clubs, it's just that at the top level the media get hold of it and speculate/make up figures/pay someone inside to reveal the details.

The reason for the undisclosed nature is to protect the clubs involved, namely the selling club.  If it's common knowledge that we've got £300k in the bank from the sale of McAtee and then offer Solihull £150k for Dallas, they know we've got more to play with.

Equally so if Luton try and sign a striker from League Two next summer and offer £200k, the selling club can reference the recent history for such a deal.  

I don't know how effective this is as I imagine players and agents, indeed managers too, will all talk and within the game it'll be common knowledge.


Yep. Ultimately it will all come out in the club accounts in time, but at a point when it won’t hinder our negotiations for other players.


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Gutted? This is a great deal for all involved, about the best we could have hoped for given the time remaining on his contract.
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Those worrying about whether he will perform now he's not our player. If he doesn't,  Hurst will drop him without hesitation like any other player.

Doubt it will happen anyway. He loves to play, it's obvious watching him.

I'd also say that his medical situation will be well known by both clubs and if he needs an op, then so be it. That would be the case whoever holds his registration.
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Pleased with the deal and whilst I am no fan of JF I don’t understand the constant criticism of his dealings with Peterborough re sales of Bennett and Dembele both of which ultimately gave us very reasonable sums of money when the players moved on. We may have been to get a slightly higher initial fee for both but we were a L2 club selling on potential not the finished article so I have no problem with what he achieved with those particular players.

However, this is probably as good a deal as we could get so fair play to all involved.
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Stockwood has just been on Humberside, says the fee is not £500k, but it includes performance related add-ons and a sell-on. Interest was clear around a month ago. He was never going to sign another contract with us, so it's the best deal we can get. Some money is upfront.
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Quoted from MarinerDevil
Stockwood has just been on Humberside, says the fee is not £500k, but it includes performance related add-ons and a sell-on. Interest was clear around a month ago. He was never going to sign another contract with us, so it's the best deal we can get. Some money is upfront.


Was the question asked if he who shall not be named is paid off?
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Anyone gutted about this is on glue.

Cracking deal for literally everyone. He doesn’t sign an extension, felicitations off in the summer for buggerall and we dip out completely and he probably plays quite tentatively so as not to get injured. Now he’ll be out to prove he’s worthy of a first team place.

Luton get a player they clearly value. Town get a fee and the player for the remainder of the season.

Cracking deal all round and as someone pointed out, in the past we’d have been mugged off, Fenty would’ve got himself another refurbishment of his 1994 house, club would’ve seen intercourse all of the cash and we’d have a gaping hole where the player once was…may be a shite pre season friendly…

Luton would be a good club to work with and learn from though, since their new ownership and entering the league they’ve gone from strength to strength.

Makes you realise how far we’ve fallen though that we’re selling players to Luton and loaning them back. Reputation is everything though and if we gain respect for a being a club that are great to deal with its good again.

Mega deal all round…


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Also says the debt will be cleared '18 months early' and 1878 have invested 'half a million' in the summer.

Still working hard on new signings.
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Stockwood has just been on Humberside, says the fee is not £500k, but it includes performance related add-ons and a sell-on. Interest was clear around a month ago. He was never going to sign another contract with us, so it's the best deal we can get. Some money is upfront.


i suspect we've probably got around 150K upfront and then the rest is add ons
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I think Jason Stockwood's statement speaks volumes

“We obviously really wanted to keep John at Grimsby Town, and we offered him a new deal in the close season to get him on a longer contract. But John has ambitions to play at a higher level, and we respect that and didn’t want to stand in his way. We knew there was a good chance we’d probably end up losing John on a free at the end of the season, and so at least by letting him go now, the Club has been able to benefit from his transfer."

Regardless of him knowing he has the adoration of the fans, almost a God status, every single player has ambitions to play at a higher level, so who are we to stand in his way?
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With Luton in the playoffs last season McAtee has effectively gone up 3 divisions.  Only strikers of the calibre of Vardy and Watkins usually do this.  Impressive, and McAtee is younger.
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Luton have a lot of strikers


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I am surprised that after being regarded as lazy at Scunthorpe he can be bothered to even go to Luton and want to compete against good strikers for a first team place at a higher level.
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Good move for everyone involved, im happy for him, glad we get another season of him and he's bloody mcatee cant beleive people are questioning if he'll perform now, he'll always love the mariners
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Quoted from chaos33
Luton have a lot of strikers


I alluded to that a few days ago. Even suggested that as part of the deal we may get one in on loan, but I now doubt that as McAtee has gone and come back.

Mind you it would still be good to borrow another striker from their ranks
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Didn't know he had already turned down an improved contract.
So although I am bitterly disappointed to lose him - to have the fee + add ons, him back for the season is a great deal as he was going anyway.
PH will have been aware of the pending sale & surely has already a striker lined up?
Not sure if JSF can call on the proceeds to "accelerate the repayment" as JM wasn't a town player 'till after JSF left?
Anyway rock on & bring on Northampton.
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I alluded to that a few days ago. Even suggested that as part of the deal we may get one in on loan, but I now doubt that as McAtee has gone and come back.

Mind you it would still be good to borrow another striker from their ranks

Matt Dean did ask Stockwood about this and he answered by complimenting Luton and showing interest in developing a relationship with them. Definitely wouldn't be surprised to see us loan a few of their players in the future.
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Quoted from TownSNAFU5
I am surprised that after being regarded as lazy at Scunthorpe he can be bothered to even go to Luton and want to compete against good strikers for a first team place at a higher level.
I do think footballers can change for the better if given the right guidance and they have the desire. I remember reading about Lionel Messi at Barcelona when he was a youngster being led astray by Ronaldinho of all people eg nightclubs ,party's and late nights( it's why Barca in part got rid of him). Pep Guardiola I think it was had a good talk with Messi along the lines of buck your ideas up and start being more professional otherwise your talent won't be maximised. Messi to his credit took the right path and the rest is history.


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This seems like a cracking deal.

They could call this type of transfer a 'Boris'

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Great piece of business
He could have gone on a free at end of season so why not cash in?

Shame it's not been revealed for how much but I suspect 5/600k is not wide of mark; plus add ons; plus we get him back for rest of season

We do need to pull out stops though re: at least one more quality striker - surely Jason/PH must know we will struggle like hell without consistent goalscorers

It's my constant fear with GTFC - but not easily resolved when so many teams can offer better terms
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Quoted from chaos33
Luton have a lot of strikers


That they do.

7 listed in their first team squad.  Cameron Jermone, Harry Cornick, Carlton Morris, Cauley Woodrow, Elijah Adebayo, Carlos Mendes Gomes and Admiral Muskwe.

I know Gomes has been mentioned as someone people would like to see us make a move for, not sure how serious those shouts are.

But Muskwe could be someone we do go for.  Like Mendes he wasn't even in the squad for Luton on Saturday, despite a few injuries and struggled to feature much at all last season other than some bench warming duties.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if we find ourselves with another Luton loanee in a Town shirt by the end of the month.
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That they do.

7 listed in their first team squad.  Cameron Jermone, Harry Cornick, Carlton Morris, Cauley Woodrow, Elijah Adebayo, Carlos Mendes Gomes and Admiral Muskwe.

I know Gomes has been mentioned as someone people would like to see us make a move for, not sure how serious those shouts are.

But Muskwe could be someone we do go for.  Like Mendes he wasn't even in the squad for Luton on Saturday, despite a few injuries and struggled to feature much at all last season other than some bench warming duties.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if we find ourselves with another Luton loanee in a Town shirt by the end of the month.


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That they do.

7 listed in their first team squad.  Cameron Jermone, Harry Cornick, Carlton Morris, Cauley Woodrow, Elijah Adebayo, Carlos Mendes Gomes and Admiral Muskwe.

I know Gomes has been mentioned as someone people would like to see us make a move for, not sure how serious those shouts are.

But Muskwe could be someone we do go for.  Like Mendes he wasn't even in the squad for Luton on Saturday, despite a few injuries and struggled to feature much at all last season other than some bench warming duties.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if we find ourselves with another Luton loanee in a Town shirt by the end of the month.


He’s coming home - it’s Cameron Jerome.

Full circle for the original “we should’ve kept him” striker.
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Not sure if mentioned on here or if any truth in it all but rumours in this Town I reside that they was trying to get McAtee

Obvious now he has far higher ambitions


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Professional deal done - no tribunal ripping us off - player happy - clubs both sides happy - fans should be happy with loan back to the season end - possible potential of Luton player loans to us.

What is not to like !!

McAtee now just needs a Loctite shoulder harness.
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A decent bit of business taking everything into consideration. It avoids the "will he go or stay" deadline day frenzy as well. Personally I could just do with a "shot in the arm" signing now and all will be well.
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You now need a striker, Hursty, pretty dam quick.

Hope John doesn't suffer a  serious injury and Luton want their money back!


Why do we need a striker to replace JM when he is still playing for us all season?


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We needed a striker anyway


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Quoted from devs
Great piece of business
He could have gone on a free at end of season so why not cash in?

Shame it's not been revealed for how much but I suspect 5/600k is not wide of mark; plus add ons; plus we get him back for rest of season

We do need to pull out stops though re: at least one more quality striker - surely Jason/PH must know we will struggle like hell without consistent goalscorers

It's my constant fear with GTFC - but not easily resolved when so many teams can offer better terms


It's not that much. Stockwood already confirmed that.
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Why do we need a striker to replace JM when he is still playing for us all season?


Because people can’t read?

This deal is a dream for everyone involved…under Fenty we’d have got £50k, a excrement pre season game, an evening with Yaxley-Lennon and Fenty would’ve got a new patio…


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Is there a limit on how many loans we can play?
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It's not that much. Stockwood already confirmed that.


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought that JS said in answer to Matt's question about the fee, "that it wasn't that sum".

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Because people can’t read?

This deal is a dream for everyone involved…under Fenty we’d have got £50k, a excrement pre season game, an evening with Yaxley-Lennon and Fenty would’ve got a new patio…


Yaxley-Lennon? Isn’t that our new left back?
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Yaxley-Lennon? Isn’t that our new left back?


Pretty sure he plays on the right.
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Pretty sure he plays on the right.


Touché!
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought that JS said in answer to Matt's question about the fee, "that it wasn't that sum".



He did yes, but from the way he said it and the tone of his voice, I'm almost certain he meant lower than.

You have to also consider that them loaning him back will save us quite a bit in a possible transfer fee for a replacement, plus wages and employer contributions, depending on what sort of agreement we have with them

There was also mentioned the possibility of getting one of their strikers on loan, so I would imagine that taking all that into consideration, the fee won't have been a large one, especially considering that the longer the season goes on, the more his value would have dropped.

Looks like Luton just wanted to get him tied down before other teams started circling and have made a few concessions to us.
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Well, 2 tyre kickers bought the club and appointed someone with no experience of football as chief executive officer.

They all more or less admitted it was a new venture for them, out of their depth and had a steep learning curve to learning how to run the club. Well, they used a rocket because they are at the top of their game and pulling no punches.

Promotion back to the EFL at the first attempt and getting a fantastic deal McAtee. It makes you wonder what will happen next, it's also nice to know the club is in good hands.

We may have lost the first game back in the EFL but the future looks good, it's black and white.

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Why do we need a striker to replace JM when he is still playing for us all season?


We don't, but we need one for him to play off.


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Is there a limit on how many loans we can play?


Think its 5 in a matchday squad.
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Is there a limit on how many loans we can play?


Think it used to be 5, but the rules change every bloody year!


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He’s coming home - it’s Cameron Jerome.

Full circle for the original “we should’ve kept him” striker.


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Why do we need another striker?

Because we need another one, thats why!

Where would we be if McAtee badly injured his shoulder in the next few games and was unable to play for the next 3 - 6 months?

We cannot rely on him to be injury free all season, especially as he has the ongoing injury anyway.

I reckon other teams will be more than aware of his injury, but I will stop short of saying they will target him.
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Way of the jungle, teams like Luton who are higher up the chain grab from the ones below it.  Grimsby Town will do the same much more easier now we are a League club once again.

I guess if the fee was in the open, and Grimsby Town go in for a player, other clubs could try up any fee if they knew how much we receive in any transfers like McAtee.


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What does being open about a transfer fee do other then give you a handicap when trying to sign other players give everyone knows what you’ve just taken receipt of…


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We stole some good players from clubs below us this transfer window. Doubt we even paid fees. It's a shame McAtee didn't sign a nice long contract to help us get an even better price, but in the grand scheme of things this is the best possible result for everyone.
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Why do we need another striker?

Because we need another one, thats why!

Where would we be if McAtee badly injured his shoulder in the next few games and was unable to play for the next 3 - 6 months?

We cannot rely on him to be injury free all season, especially as he has the ongoing injury anyway.

I reckon other teams will be more than aware of his injury, but I will stop short of saying they will target him.


You have a lot of faith in the honesty and sportsmanship of League 2 defenders.  I will come right out and say that they WILL target him for sure.

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You have a lot of faith in the honesty and sportsmanship of League 2 defenders.  I will come right out and say that they WILL target him for sure.



Agree completely. If I'm a Lg2. CB the first chance I get I'm going in with a heavy shoulder barge or try and give him a rough landing when going for a header etc etc


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Agree completely. If I'm a Lg2. CB the first chance I get I'm going in with a heavy shoulder barge or try and give him a rough landing when going for a header etc etc


Assuming they get near him?


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Shite

He's going to be a very difficult player to replace. But hopefully PH has some very good targets we can now afford


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Shite

He's going to be a very difficult player to replace. But hopefully PH has some very good targets we can now afford


Got an entire season…


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This is the best possible outcome, we could have lost him for nothing at the end of the season or at least a lot less than we got out of this deal. Have to really thank Luton for being so reasonable and wanting the McAtee to get game time so we didn't lose an important player this season. We got a really good deal.
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This is the best possible outcome, we could have lost him for nothing at the end of the season or at least a lot less than we got out of this deal. Have to really thank Luton for being so reasonable and wanting the McAtee to get game time so we didn't lose an important player this season. We got a really good deal.
Its going to be interesting how well McAtees career will go. I haven't seen him yet due to other commitments but from what others have said and the likes of four four two magazine as well who included a section on McAtee in their latest edition the future does like bright for him if he can try to  keep on improving. Its the hallmark of the great players most notably  Cristiano Ronaldo.Natural Ability and mental resolve in abundance which created the superstar he is now.



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That they do.

7 listed in their first team squad.  Cameron Jermone, Harry Cornick, Carlton Morris, Cauley Woodrow, Elijah Adebayo, Carlos Mendes Gomes and Admiral Muskwe.

I know Gomes has been mentioned as someone people would like to see us make a move for, not sure how serious those shouts are.

But Muskwe could be someone we do go for.  Like Mendes he wasn't even in the squad for Luton on Saturday, despite a few injuries and struggled to feature much at all last season other than some bench warming duties.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if we find ourselves with another Luton loanee in a Town shirt by the end of the month.


In all seriousness, if you’re Nathan Jones it makes sense to have two of your forwards out on loan together building a relationship over the course of a season. Muskwe certainly looks a decent option but 20 Championship appearances last season means he’s probably looking a bit higher than L2.
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In all seriousness, if you’re Nathan Jones it makes sense to have two of your forwards out on loan together building a relationship over the course of a season. Muskwe certainly looks a decent option but 20 Championship appearances last season means he’s probably looking a bit higher than L2.


McAtee's going from the Vanarama to the Bananarama in one (un)cruel summer...

[url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSpPkMlb98[/url]

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Luton and Jones obviously trust Hurst and his crew coaching team if they're willing to sign McAtee but let him stay with us for a year so who knows?
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If the Luton boss had notions, he could loan odd strikers to us to see if there could be a good partnership with McAtee, for future reference, it helps both parties, wouldnt that be something
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Because people can’t read?

This deal is a dream for everyone involved…under Fenty we’d have got £50k, a excrement pre season game, an evening with Yaxley-Lennon and Fenty would’ve got a new patio…


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McAtee's going from the Vanarama to the Bananarama in one (un)cruel summer...

[url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSpPkMlb98[/url]

Niche


Brilliant!!! 😆😆😆


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Of course it does prove what an astute signing it was by Hurst to bring him here in the first place. Just as Bogle was.

So I am confident he will bring in more good forwards to the club. We just need to be patient.
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Best of both worlds.
Good move for the lad.
Sound business by Town.
Knowing what the lad is like he will still be giving 100% every time he pulls on a Town shirt.
Onwards and upwards UTM


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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Quoted from TAGG
Best of both worlds.
Good move for the lad.
Sound business by Town.
Knowing what the lad is like he will still be giving 100% every time he pulls on a Town shirt.
Onwards and upwards UTM


I think we will probably see mcatee around 10-15 games this season, he will have his Op in our time and then probably get a mysterious injury in the business end of the season to save himself for the championship


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I think we will probably see mcatee around 10-15 games this season, he will have his Op in our time and then probably get a mysterious injury in the business end of the season to save himself for the championship


intercourse me
Thought I was a pessimist  


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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Given all the circumstances (contract, injury, potential), I’m thankful that it’s been sorted and put to bed early enough for us to get our recruitment moving, knowing what we need. He was never staying and it was plain to see that he could operate at a higher level so well done to all for giving him the chance to see out this season and us getting a return on our investment.
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We don't, but we need one for him to play off.


But we needed one anyway so JM signing for Luton and then remaining on a season long loan changes nothing.


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But we needed one anyway so JM signing for Luton and then remaining on a season long loan changes nothing.


Unless Luton chucked in a loan striker as well.

Sounded like more than a possibility from the JS interview.
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McAtee's going from the Vanarama to the Bananarama in one (un)cruel summer...

[url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSpPkMlb98[/url]

Niche


I can’t believe I hadn’t put the name Nathan Jones together with that song, it had completely escaped my mind!

An unbelievable find there, that man!
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I think we will probably see mcatee around 10-15 games this season, he will have his Op in our time and then probably get a mysterious injury in the business end of the season to save himself for the championship


Or...his 20 goals alongside 20 from Dallas, who we were able to sign with the funds from the sale, help us to the play-offs. We get to the final and are 1-0 down to Stevenage mid-way through the second half, Clifton dummies and JMcA slips through to bury the ball inside the far post for the equaliser. In a tense extra time second period Dallas mistimes his header on goal and the ball balloons to JMcA whose lunge knocks the ball over the line. He leaves an absolute GTFC cult hero, but returns 6 years later, and nets 25 goals in a championship winning season. Matt Tees and McAtee, 60 years apart...
Oh and BTW, in the interviews after the play-off final Evans loses it completely in an expletive laden fury and is banned from football for life...

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This seems like a cracking deal.

They could call this type of transfer a 'Boris'

Gone but still here.
Q gy in SCUNTLAND.

Only difference is Mctee is good at his job


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Well that deal couldn't have been much better could it, we get to keep him as long as we would have if he'd stayed, but get money fir him plus mcatee gets his move but continues to develop at a level above last years. Literally everyone is a winner.

Absolutely brilliant news under the circumstances and it means we get to keep mcatee for this season and that gives us our best shot at continuing the momentum.
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Well that deal couldn't have been much better could it, we get to keep him as long as we would have if he'd stayed, but get money fir him plus mcatee gets his move but continues to develop at a level above last years. Literally everyone is a winner.

Absolutely brilliant news under the circumstances and it means we get to keep mcatee for this season and that gives us our best shot at continuing the momentum.


The only way it could get better is if Real Madrid buy him at the end of the season after our promotion for 50 million and we get our 25% add on
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Great piece of business by the club. We’ve just sold our best player and talisman, yet the positivity and optimism is flowing through this thread.
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Great piece of business by the club. We’ve just sold our best player and talisman, yet the positivity and optimism is flowing through this thread.


Yep, we sold him while he’s worth something yet kept him. Nothing wrong with that.
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Yep, we sold him while he’s worth something yet kept him. Nothing wrong with that.


Exactly this, win win all round…


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Anyone know if Looton have a recall option in January?


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Anyone know if Looton have a recall option in January?


Would imagine so. Will be very interesting. If he has got 10 goals by Christmas and they are in the bottom half with a few injuries in the forward area. Hurst will have plenty of irons in the fire for any eventuality.


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Yep, we sold him while he’s worth something yet kept him. Nothing wrong with that.


I think you’ve maybe misunderstood the sentiment behind my post (unless I’ve misunderstood yours). The point I was making is that the deal is genuinely great business and absolutely the right decision and it’s a measure of how well the club is being run that we sell the fans favourite player but everyone can see its the right decision and remain optimistic for the future. So I think we’re in agreement here.
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I think you’ve maybe misunderstood the sentiment behind my post (unless I’ve misunderstood yours). The point I was making is that the deal is genuinely great business and absolutely the right decision and it’s a measure of how well the club is being run that we sell the fans favourite player but everyone can see its the right decision and remain optimistic for the future. So I think we’re in agreement here.


I agree, and I suspect the fans response is because the club have been honest in that they’ve said they offered terms but he didn’t want them, this is a win win all round and the club understand fully why Mcatee would want to try and make it at a higher level.



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Echo what others have said best deal the club could make in circumstances.. let's hope he smashes the championship and we get a nice sell on eventually..

Loving the way the club is being run now treating fans and players with respect. That's got to help with recruitment in future too..
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43 goals this season and Luton might sell him without him ever playing for them!


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Why is it not allowed to be disappointed about this? We are losing our best player to only  a moderately bigger club. He was kissing the badge and at the same time wanting to run down his contract and get out of here. Is that not disappointing? That's modern day football for you...
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Why is it not allowed to be disappointed about this? We are losing our best player to only  a moderately bigger club. He was kissing the badge and at the same time wanting to run down his contract and get out of here. Is that not disappointing? That's modern day football for you...


Championship footballers are mostly on 10k a week plus. If you wouldn’t want to minimum quadruple your salary, you’re lying.
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Why is it not allowed to be disappointed about this? We are losing our best player to only  a moderately bigger club. He was kissing the badge and at the same time wanting to run down his contract and get out of here. Is that not disappointing? That's modern day football for you...


You can be disappointed...but don't be:

1. Luton finished 6th in the Championship last season - much higher than we have done in my 39 years of life. It's not like leaving for Northampton

2. Massive increase in wages for the player - at least quadrupled

3. If you're daft enough to believe all of the badge kissing stuff from most footballers then you are going to get hurt

4. Out of contract at the end of the season and the tribunal might not have given us much compensation

5. I once saw McAtee eating some pork souvlaki whilst straddling the Meridian Line - must be riddled with tapeworms by now
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2. Massive increase in wages for the player - at least quadrupled

And the bonuses wouldn't be bad either in the championship. Some of the top wage earners in the championship are on basic salarys on over 3 million a year as well.


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And the bonuses wouldn't be bad either in the championship. Some of the top wage earners in the championship are on basic salarys on over 3 million a year as well.


I struggle to believe that Championship players are on £60K a week.

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Championship footballers are mostly on 10k a week plus. If you wouldn’t want to minimum quadruple your salary, you’re lying.


Our 78 - 81 team - virtually the same team (plus Whymark) from Division 4 to Top 7 Division 2, (if there had been play-offs we'd have missed out on GD), would have been broken up long before we got to the high point with the current disparities in income. Waters, Drinkell, Ford, K Moore, would all have been well in demand. The extra buying power in those days mainly came from turnstile revenue; we averaged 10k in 1980, the Div 2 average was only 13k, so not much difference really, and small enough for us to compete with new contract offers as we rose through the leagues.

The Buckley team 89 to 92 would have been less in demand, because of the type of players Buckley went for - Diddy, perhaps, Cunnington and we lost Tillson to higher up. But players like Cockers were late developers so not like someone like Ford. Also the Div 2 crowds were only 10k then and we were at 6-7k average, so again not much difference.

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Why does a player kissing the badge automatically equal a lifetime contract with the club in some fans eyes?

Players are allowed to kiss the badge at times of jubilation (ie when they've scored a goal for us), and show that they love the club without wanting to be playing with us forever. It doesn't make them a mercenary if they eventually leave to a much better team.


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Why is it not allowed to be disappointed about this? We are losing our best player to only  a moderately bigger club. He was kissing the badge and at the same time wanting to run down his contract and get out of here. Is that not disappointing? That's modern day football for you...


2 divisions above.
Atleast quadruple the money.
No person in their right mind would say no.
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I struggle to believe that Championship players are on £60K a week.

I think it's true though. I was talking to a lad who had played championship football and some of his teammates had been on really good bonuses following a decent month. Bear in mind the crowds they get at some championship games are really good and rival a fair few teams in the top of their respective leagues eg Spain for one. It surprised me as well when I read a while back in the daily Spanish sports football Marca newspaper not that long ago some  players were on roughly only £60- 70 ,000 yearly basic whereas the top earners in la Liga would of been earning so much more. The last time I read the average yearly basic wage at Real Madrid was roughly 10 million with the recently departed Gareth Bale close to 30 million basic on a 5 year deal. Different worlds.



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I think it's true though. I was talking to a lad who had played championship football and some of his teammates had been on really good bonuses following a decent month. Bear in mind the crowds they get at some championship games are really good and rival a fair few teams in the top of their respective leagues eg Spain for one. It surprised me as well when I read a while back in the daily Spanish sports football daily Marca not that long ago some players players were on roughly only £60- 70 ,000 yearly basic whereas the top earners would of been earning so much more. The last time I read the average yearly basic wage at Real Madrid was roughly 10 million with the recently departed Gareth Bale close to 30 million basic on a 5 year deal. Different worlds.



Some will be hangovers from Premier League relegation too. I bet someone like Mitovic or Joe Allen will still be on huge salaries.



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I think it's true though. I was talking to a lad who had played championship football and some of his teammates had been on really good bonuses following a decent month. Bear in mind the crowds they get at some championship games are really good and rival a fair few teams in the top of their respective leagues eg Spain for one. It surprised me as well when I read a while back in the daily Spanish sports football Marca not that long ago some  players were on roughly only £60- 70 ,000 yearly basic whereas the top earners in la Liga would of been earning so much more. The last time I read the average yearly basic wage at Real Madrid was roughly 10 million with the recently departed Gareth Bale close to 30 million basic on a 5 year deal. Different worlds.



I appreciate this is last year, though these are the average salaries per club https://sqaf.club/how-much-do-championship-players-earn/      

struggle to believe that a player can earn £3M per year when the average for a player at Fulham (the highest) is £1M.

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I struggle to believe that Championship players are on £60K a week.



Mitrovic was on £100k a week last season at Fulham.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-championship-record-historic-wage-25394760
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It's all about the money but doubt he will get the adulation there as he did here
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Some will be hangovers from Premier League relegation too. I bet someone like Mitovic or Joe Allen will still be on huge salaries.

Yes your right. What's sad as well is some of these ex football professionals who have had success in the game eg played championship and premiership struggle when their career is over. Not just the money side but the discipline and company,unity that comes with the territory. Some end up depressed and have been  in a bad way.  I know the FA are trying to do more for players mental health as well which is good to see though.



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Why is it not allowed to be disappointed about this? We are losing our best player to only  a moderately bigger club. He was kissing the badge and at the same time wanting to run down his contract and get out of here. Is that not disappointing? That's modern day football for you...


I struggle to see what the size of the club has to do with this. Luton are ambitious, are prepared to pay a better salary than us and have a great location not too far from the capital.  Once he plays for them in the Championship he will get more attention at a higher level. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that if he develops he could attract the attention of a Premiersh*t team and be transferred for a 7 figure sum.


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Championship footballers are mostly on 10k a week plus. If you wouldn’t want to minimum quadruple your salary, you’re lying.


I read that the average at Luton is 6k but I understand your point
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I struggle to see what the size of the club has to do with this. Luton are ambitious, are prepared to pay a better salary than us and have a great location


Have you ever been to Luton? 😂

Also we don't know his wage, I'm guessing 6k or less. We also don't know whether we got a good deal because it's undisclosed. I'm guessing it is a satisfactory deal for us in the circumstances rather than a fantastic deal.
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Our 78 - 81 team - virtually the same team (plus Whymark) from Division 4 to Top 7 Division 2, (if there had been play-offs we'd have missed out on GD), would have been broken up long before we got to the high point with the current disparities in income. Waters, Drinkell, Ford, K Moore, would all have been well in demand. The extra buying power in those days mainly came from turnstile revenue; we averaged 10k in 1980, the Div 2 average was only 13k, so not much difference really, and small enough for us to compete with new contract offers as we rose through the leagues.

The Buckley team 89 to 92 would have been less in demand, because of the type of players Buckley went for - Diddy, perhaps, Cunnington and we lost Tillson to higher up. But players like Cockers were late developers so not like someone like Ford. Also the Div 2 crowds were only 10k then and we were at 6-7k average, so again not much difference.



You’re absolutely right, of course. For all the TV rights deals have put into football, the total skewing of the financial structure is abhorrent. Whilst I don’t agree with Gary Neville on many things, a total review is both necessary and overdue.
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I struggle to see what the size of the club has to do with this. Luton are ambitious, are prepared to pay a better salary than us and have a great location not too far from the capital.  Once he plays for them in the Championship he will get more attention at a higher level. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that if he develops he could attract the attention of a Premiersh*t team and be transferred for a 7 figure sum.


The location had nothing to do with it. I agree with the rest though, it is ambition, Championship football and the money that goes with it and the chance eventually to reach the promised land of the Premier League and show his brother who's boss.
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Players like Mitrovic have made a career out of scoring goals for fun in The Championship so it's no surprise he earns £100k a week, given the financial rewards of promotion to the Premier League.

McAtee has signed a deal until summer 2026 and I assume there are pay rises in that linked to appearances and promotion to the promised land. Keeping players here against their will isn't going to contribute to a good dressing room but this has to be about the bigger picture. Come here, impress and we won't stop you progressing.

Last year I recall Stockwood talking about us receiving multiple bids for Grist and Leicester wasn't the highest fee but it was important for Grist to decide what was best for him. Fast forward a year and it transpires Luton weren't the highest bid for McAtee but it's a deal that allowed everyone to win.
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Players are allowed to kiss the badge at times of jubilation (ie when they've scored a goal for us), and show that they love the club without wanting to be playing with us forever. It doesn't make them a mercenary if they eventually leave to a much better team.


I love my partner because we have shared good times and bad, made sacrifices and built trust and loyalty. We are committed to building a better future for ourselves. I am not going to dump her for some Luton floozy just because she has a few more quid in the bank. 😉
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I love my partner because we have shared good times and bad, made sacrifices and built trust and loyalty. We are committed to building a better future for ourselves. I am not going to dump her for some Luton floozy just because she has a few more quid in the bank. 😉


Let’s hope she feels the same way!! JF has a few Bob to spend on a floozy should one become available 😀😀
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Players like Mitrovic have made a career out of scoring goals for fun in The Championship so it's no surprise he earns £100k a week, given the financial rewards of promotion to the Premier League.

McAtee has signed a deal until summer 2026 and I assume there are pay rises in that linked to appearances and promotion to the promised land. Keeping players here against their will isn't going to contribute to a good dressing room but this has to be about the bigger picture. Come here, impress and we won't stop you progressing.

Last year I recall Stockwood talking about us receiving multiple bids for Grist and Leicester wasn't the highest fee but it was important for Grist to decide what was best for him. Fast forward a year and it transpires Luton weren't the highest bid for McAtee but it's a deal that allowed everyone to win.


Hopefully, the word will be out that Town is now a good club to come to.



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Hopefully, the word will be out that Town is now a good club to come to.



I think it probably is by now DB. Better training facilities, more support staff, increasing fan base, stable managerial team, well respected youth set up and forward thinking owners. Plus more barbers and charity shops per square foot on Freeman Street than anywhere else in the UK.


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Have you ever been to Luton? 😂

Also we don't know his wage, I'm guessing 6k or less. We also don't know whether we got a good deal because it's undisclosed. I'm guessing it is a satisfactory deal for us in the circumstances rather than a fantastic deal.


I love my home town of Grimsby but Luton surely isn't worse ? That's immaterial anyway as I doubt he will live and socialise in the worse parts in the same way that footballers coming here would avoid the East Marsh and the sink estates. According to JS it's a good deal and it was highly unlikely that he would sign a new deal with us. In fact he rejected a new offer from the club so in 9 months we would have got nothing for him.


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Have you ever been to Luton? 😂

Also we don't know his wage, I'm guessing 6k or less. We also don't know whether we got a good deal because it's undisclosed. I'm guessing it is a satisfactory deal for us in the circumstances rather than a fantastic deal.


i can tell you for certain that about 10 years ago a premiership reserve player from London , who was on £10,000 p.a. ,went to Bolton and he certainly didn't take a pay cut!
I know another pro who went to one of the smallest clubs in League 1 about 7 or 8 years ago because they paid him a salary of £5-£6000 per week
There is also a well established Championship footballer (number of years in the Prem) who is an old school chum of my wife's offspring and he's on c£20,000-£30,000 p.w.
Also know of a Championship striker , through mutual acquaintances, who's on around £20,000 p.w. - again he's an ex Prem player
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I appreciate this is last year, though these are the average salaries per club https://sqaf.club/how-much-do-championship-players-earn/      

struggle to believe that a player can earn £3M per year when the average for a player at Fulham (the highest) is £1M.

Interesting site Steffi  and yes for the most part championship players are very well paid and a  big step up on the whole from league 2 but most like you have pointed out aren't millionaires but the elite are. Check the site below:

https://www.planetfootball.com.....hillips-bournemouth/



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Looking likely he now needs his op, highly unlikely to be available this weekend and likely to be out for a few months, if the op goes ahead  

Source P.H

https://twitter.com/HumbersideSport/status/1555199356747358208?s=20&t=4DPy3Ca6AhlSuauoT3Vdcw
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Looking likely he now needs his op, highly unlikely to be available this weekend and likely to be out for a few months, if the op goes ahead  

Source P.H

Does seem like the gamble to not have his op in the summer has backfired unfortunately, if the specialist does indeed recommend it now. Hopefully Luton don't recall him in January and we get to see him in black and white again.
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That's a pretty devastating blow after the good news of the transfer and loan back earlier this week
We are looking weak as pish up front now.
Essel to make an efl start maybe? I assume orsi injured and taylor not fit to start still? Isn't wearne not fit to start either.

Think we have a.number of players who could at a push play up front (wearne, Khan, kiernan,jmd maybe) so that push has already come , see how many of them are fit?
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That's a pretty devastating blow after the good news of the transfer and loan back earlier this week
We are looking weak as pish up front now.
Essel to make an efl start maybe? I assume orsi injured and taylor not fit to start still? Isn't wearne not fit to start either.

Think we have a.number of players who could at a push play up front (wearne, Khan, kiernan,jmd maybe) so that push has already come , see how many of them are fit?


Khan isn’t.
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I think it probably is by now DB. Better training facilities, more support staff, increasing fan base, stable managerial team, well respected youth set up and forward thinking owners. Plus more barbers and charity shops per square foot on Freeman Street than anywhere else in the UK.


And a hoover shop!  How that's still there beats me.  Not many towns can say they have a dedicated hoover shop. Up the Freemo!
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Khan isn’t.

Yeah didn't think so, fully fit is jmd, kiernan and essel I think but not sure
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Yeah didn't think so, fully fit is jmd, kiernan and essel I think but not sure


jeez, jmd had an absolute mare on saturday, thought kiernan looked a bog standard div 2 player, and essel is 18(?) and couldn't even get a game at n.l. level.
I'm hoping we pack the defence and end up with an awful 0-0 draw!
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Something tells me they have an inclin that it'll be January ish he's back so he'll see out the first few months of his recovery here before going to Luton
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Something tells me they have an inclin that it'll be January ish he's back so he'll see out the first few months of his recovery here before going to Luton


Makes this great deal not that great.


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Given what Stocko said about the importance of the loan back in doing the deal, I'd be surprised if there was a recall clause, although obvs that's a complete guess.

Anyway, shite news.


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Makes this great deal not that great.


It does a bit, there is no point in denying it, assuming he does indeed have to have the op. Presumably, in a straightforward transfer, we would have got more money and the shoulder becomes Luton's problem.

We can only hope the specialist says an operation isn't necessary but if it popped out during the first few seconds of the first game then that seems unlikely.

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Didn’t pop out during pre season at all and it popped straight back in. In an ideal world, it’ll be manageable throughout the season and he’ll have the operation during the close season, as it’ll likely be much, much longer this year!


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Given what Stocko said about the importance of the loan back in doing the deal, I'd be surprised if there was a recall clause, although obvs that's a complete guess.

Anyway, shite news.


Sounds like the season long loan was a big deal for us so it’d be poor form of them to just pull the rug from beneath us like that, as I can’t believe we’ve been done up like a kipper under these lads.


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Didn’t pop out during pre season at all and it popped straight back in. In an ideal world, it’ll be manageable throughout the season and he’ll have the operation during the close season, as it’ll likely be much, much longer this year!


Don’t be ridiculous. It’s a three month recovery so he’s going to have to either have it done now or by March latest.
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3 month recovery? If he has an operation quickly, he could be back mid-November. That's 5 and a half months to go until the end of the season.

When the transfer was announced, I thought it likely that he'd be getting surgery at some point this season, given that the shoulder was a problem on Saturday. I'd prefer him to have the op sooner rather than later so we know we've got ourselves a really good player coming into the team before the busy Christmas period. It would help if we weren't already down to the bare bones up front, however!

We always seem to be short of forwards at the start of the season and the injuries mean this is even more the case. I think Hurst has gone a bit overboard on wingers when we haven't got anyone for them to cross the ball to!
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Makes this great deal not that great.


If he needs an operation then it really doesn't matter if he was under contract to Town or not. At least with his sale to Luton we have a few thousand coming in and still will have use of the player after any operation.

Don't forget that if we had not sold him and he is out for 3 months, then this would have been 3 months closer to the end of the season and he could have been a free transfer (subject to the tribunal).



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