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Stew0_0
July 3, 2022, 9:04pm
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Hi folks,
I know there's still a few weeks till start of the season, but thought I'd start a league 2 table prediction to gauge everyone's opinion and to see where they have Town finishing?

Here's the teams for this season.....
AFC Wimbledon
Barrow
Bradford
Carlisle
Colchester
Crawley
Crewe
Doncaster
Gillingham
Grimsby
Harrogate
Hartlepool
Leyton Orient
Mansfield
Newport
Northampton
Rochdale
Salford
Stevenage
Stockport
Sutton
Swindon
Tranmere
Walsall

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01  Bradford
02  Northampton
03  Leyton Orient
04  Stockport
05  Swindon
06  Doncaster
07  Tranmere
08  Grimsby
09  Crewe
10  Mansfield
11  Carlisle
12  AFC Wimbledon
13  Crawley
14  Gillingham
15  Salford
16  Colchester
17  Sutton
18  Walsall
19  Newport
20  Rochdale
21  Harrogate
22  Hartlepool
23  Barrow
24  Stevenage
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1. Grimsby
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5. C
6. A
7. R
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10. A
11. B
12. O
13. U
14. T
15. T
16. H
17. E
18. R
19. E
20. S
21. T
22..
23. Barrrow
24. Stevenage
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Very hard to call at such an early stage, but you’d have to expect the likes of Bradford and Northampton to be up there based on recent business, and expect Stockport to be a force too. I’d expect Swindon and Mansfield to be up there too.

As for us, with a fair wind we should have a top 5 average gate next season with a vastly, vastly increased budget on last season - a team towards the end I think most felt would hold its own in League Two. On that basis, aiming for 10th and above doesn’t seem unreasonable, does it?

I think we can have a real good crack at the play-offs, I really do.


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Top three - Northampton, Gillingham and Donny
Town 10th
Stevenage and Barrow down


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Alll joking aside I'd like to hope we're around the play offs.
I'd say Bradford, Northampton, Stockport, Swindon, Rochdale, Donny will be up and around the top end.
Barrow and Stevenage relegated.
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Quoted from lukeo
Alll joking aside I'd like to hope we're around the play offs.
I'd say Bradford, Northampton, Stockport, Swindon, Rochdale, Donny will be up and around the top end.
Barrow and Stevenage relegated.


Absolutely no chance of that. Mate's a Donny fan and he's not hopeful of a top half finish and fears worse..
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Absolutely no chance of that. Mate's a Donny fan and he's not hopeful of a top half finish and fears worse..


I think Donny are on the decline. Likewise don’t see Rochdale pulling up any trees.


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I'm going to go with Crawley and Doncaster being relegated.

At the top end:

1 - Stockport
2 - Northampton
3 - Mansfield

Salford, Tranmere, Swindon and us to make up the play-offs.
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I'm going to go with Crawley and Doncaster being relegated.

At the top end:

1 - Stockport
2 - Northampton
3 - Mansfield

Salford, Tranmere, Swindon and us to make up the play-offs.


Didn’t Crawley just sign last season’s League Two top scorer?


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Obviously difficult to say at this stage and there's always a few surprise success stories in this division.  

Clearly Bradford and Northampton should be challenging based on their business so far.  

Mansfield and Swindon will probably be in or around the play-offs again.  Stockport will do well; probably play-offs.  Orient have recruited well and will challenge for top 7.  

Not sure what to make of any of the relegated sides.  Crewe were dreadful last year and they could struggle again if they don't strengthen significantly.  Doncaster always seem to be competitive when they're in this division but I'm not sure what their signings have been like.  

New crypto moneybags Crawley could be ones to watch.  They've signed last season's L2 top scorer and I can see them sh!thousing their way into a good finish.  Arseholes.

I think people might be underestimating Barrow and Stevenage.  Barrow have Pete Wild as manager and I think they'll be solid after some decent signings.  Stevenage likewise have a decent manager for this level and have made a couple of good additions so far.  

Hartlepool could struggle: they had a mediocre season last year and have lost a few.  Harrogate, Carlisle, Colchester and Walsall seem to have been circling the lower parts of L2 for a few years now and I can't see them changing that this season.

As for Town, I think we're in a decent position but we still need to strengthen over the season.  We should aim for play-offs but if we fall short and finish top half I'd still be happy with that.  
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Didn’t Crawley just sign last season’s League Two top scorer?


Yes, but I smell a rat with their new owners and have a sneaky suspicion the wheels will fall off.
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Yes, but I smell a rat with their new owners and have a sneaky suspicion the wheels will fall off.


Yep, makes some interesting reading actually.

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A respected football finance guru has suggested that the takeover of Crawley Town by cryptocurrency investors could be "too good to be true".

Last week saw the League Two side announce that WAGMI United LLC had completed the purchase of the club. The company are to use non-fungible tokens (NFTs) as an ownership model, allowing people across the world to make decisions on the club, while also generating valuable revenue streams. NFTs have no physical form but can be bought or sold.

Upon their ownership being confirmed, co-founders Preston Johnson and Eben Smith vowed to build a "worldwide community of fans" despite the club having little reach outside Sussex and boasting average attendances this season of just 2,249 - the second-lowest in the EFL.

Kieran Maguire, the respected football finance expert behind the popular Price of Football Twitter account and podcast, has big concerns over the deal.

"It's a highly volatile, unregulated and easily manipulated market," Maguire told the Argus. "If you want to buy into it in those circumstances then good luck to you is my view. There is nothing wrong with new people coming in, if they want to engage with fans that is great.

"If engagement means you have to buy fan tokens, I think they said you can vote in the new directors. But if something sounds too good to be true, it generally, in my experience, tends not to be true.


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I honestly have no idea; just glad that we are in it and on the up.

Think we will be top 10, hopefully top 7.
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01  Bradford
02  Swindon
03  Tranmere
04  Stockport
05  Northampton
06  Grimsby
07  AFC Wimbledon
08  Leyton Orient
09  Salford
10  Mansfield
11  Carlisle
12  Barrow
13  Newport
14  Gillingham
15  Walsall
16  Crawley
17  Rochdale
18  Hartlepool
19  Doncaster
20  Stevenage
21  Colchester
22  Crewe
23  Sutton
24  Harrogate

Could easily imagine any of my top ten promoted and any of my bottom ten relegated..
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exactly where they are alphabetically - 10th
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Fancy Stockport to win it closely followed by Northampton and Bradford.. Harrogate and Stevenage to drop out.. Town to finish between 7-11.. and will be amazed if Dom Telford sees his full 3 years at Crawley the deal there with there owners looks full of red flags!
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Bradford are big team favourites every season, but fail miserably every season. What makes you think this season will be any different? They are the Man Utd of the second div. Big fanbase, big spenders, but ultimately biggest failures.
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“We renounce everything except victory” ... Buenaventura Durruti

This could have been our battle cry in the play-offs last season. If we can carry some of that spirit into 22/23 a play-off place has to be a possibility. And if we get there, we all know anything is possible.
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First time we were promoted back into the league, we went for consolidation, concentrate on staying up, let's not overspend.  Look were we ended up, back in the National bloody League!

Go for it while we have the momentum, because once we loose that, it is very difficult to get it back.
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I’d take anywhere above 20th! Hopeful of 12th or above.

Stockport, Bradford and Northampton are obvious favourites. But you always get a team no one expects to do well, so I’ll plump for Walsall, Gillingham, Tranmere and Newport to join them in the top 7

Relegation wise, as long as town aren’t worrying about it I don’t care but for Sutton, Stevenage, Carlisle and possibly Rochdale I think it could be a long season


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We know from last season the only big spender that got promoted was Stockport; so splashing the cash does not guarantee promotion. As for the league positions I'm not too bothered about the rest, only Town.

We have everything going for us this season so it's promotion for me either in the top 3 or via playoffs. As for the rest, I'm not bothered.


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A general feeling that Harrogate are going to struggle. Any particular reason?

They've done reasonably well since promotion and appear to be a well run club with realistic ambitions (or have I missed something?)


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If I was a Crawley fan I'd be worrying. Crypto is crashing which would leave their owners with nothing.
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If I was a Crawley fan I'd be worrying. Crypto is crashing which would leave their owners with nothing.


Thing is, the people involved might well have converted their gains over the last coup,e of years into currency, or assets and thejn sold them. I doubt very much they have bought the club based on the crypto they own. The people who have made millions and billions from crypto over the last few years are traders, and they are trading volatile margins....that's not acceptable from the sellers perspective I am sure. Whoever they are, my guess is they are short term, as most traders are, they are not investors, so I reckon in the end you will be right, but it wont be because the owners are only crypto rich
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Bradford
Swindon
Northampton
Mansfield
Stockport
Doncaster
Grimsby
Gillingham
Salford
AFC Wimbledon
Tranmere
Crewe
Crawley
Newport
Leyton Orient
Sutton
Walsall
Carlisle
Harrogate
Colchester
Barrow
Hartlepool
Rochdale
Stevenage
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Quoted from DB
We know from last season the only big spender that got promoted was Stockport; so splashing the cash does not guarantee promotion. As for the league positions I'm not too bothered about the rest, only Town.

We have everything going for us this season so it's promotion for me either in the top 3 or via playoffs. As for the rest, I'm not bothered.


a red cross for this. get yourself a life
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1) Gillingham
2) Stockport
3) Bradford
4) Northampton
5) Swindon
6) Doncaster
7) AFC Wimbledon
8 ) Crewe
9) Rochdale
10) Grimsby
11) Newport
12) Tranmere
13) Walsall
14) Mansfield
15) Leyton Orient
16) Salford
17) Colchester
18 ) Carlisle
19) Crawley
20) Barrow
21) Harrogate
22) Hartlepool
23) Stevenage
24) Sutton


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a red cross for this. get yourself a life


Thank you for having the courtesy of identifying yourself with a red cross. We all have opinions, so why don't you agree with mine;
which is I want the best for Town and all supporters ( including you) which promotion again would bring.



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If I was a Crawley fan I'd be worrying. Crypto is crashing which would leave their owners with nothing.


They have sold over £3 million worth of NFTs this summer. As weird as it may seem to some there is serious potential here.

https://twitter.com/uglygame/status/1546524630931820544?s=21&t=6zcz8PwxnVioMPtFXj5n9g


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