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GrimRob
June 30, 2022, 7:53am

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They should replace custodial sentences with mandatory attendance of Scunny games.


'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.  
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June 30, 2022, 9:13am
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They should replace custodial sentences with mandatory attendance of Scunny games.


I think you'll find that is in breach of their human rights
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We are sleepwalking into a state controlled dystopian world. this isn't for race crimes.... it is for hate crimes which is widely open to interpretation.
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It appears that the government will make laws for anything, including the quite amusing protester in Parliament Square.


Bear in mind that the 'noisy protest' law is so loosely defined (and deliberately so) that it can be incredibly draconian and can be used in all sorts of minor instances which would normally be legal protests. Legal pickets, for example? If a police officer decides they are being too 'disruptive', they can be carted off, so it has potentially strike-breaking potential. Does anybody trust that every police officer in the country will use their discretion correctly and not misuse this law? I certainly don't.
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Football has always been an easy target for politicians to make an exception of in society.  Bullying really. Hard for football to fight back.  
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June 30, 2022, 10:49am
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Football has always been an easy target for politicians to make an exception of in society.  Bullying really. Hard for football to fight back.  


It’s easier to take the passport from a suspected football hooligan than a Suspected terrorist.
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Bear in mind that the 'noisy protest' law is so loosely defined (and deliberately so) that it can be incredibly draconian and can be used in all sorts of minor instances which would normally be legal protests. Legal pickets, for example? If a police officer decides they are being too 'disruptive', they can be carted off, so it has potentially strike-breaking potential. Does anybody trust that every police officer in the country will use their discretion correctly and not misuse this law? I certainly don't.


Tories essentially introducing laws to stop protests ir union strike type behaviour, where on earth have we seen that before?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Tories essentially introducing laws to stop protests ir union strike type behaviour, where on earth have we seen that before?


Let's not kid ourselves.. Labour here would do the same, it's happening with the Liberals and Labour in Australia, the Liberals in Canada, the Democrats in the US, virtually every incumbent government, left or right in the EU and many others around the world. They've all had their taste of communistic control during Covid and have the appetite for more contol of the human race any which way they can. These interpretive laws are to protect themselves so they can use force if we aren't compliant enough..

If you think there's going to be the same freedoms in the future that we've had in the past.. you're sleepwalking..
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If you think there's going to be the same freedoms in the future that we've had in the past.. you're sleepwalking..


We badly need an electoral pact at the next election between Labour/LibDems/Greens to boot out the Tories and implement a proper proportional representation electoral scheme. They can repeal all these ridiculous laws giving ministers Henry VIII powers while they are at it. It shouldn't be possible for the government to bypass Parliament and make it up as they go along which is what some of these laws effectively enable.

An electoral pact is what we need, but will it happen? Unfortunately, I tend to doubt it.
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We badly need an electoral pact at the next election between Labour/LibDems/Greens to boot out the Tories and implement a proper proportional representation electoral scheme. They can repeal all these ridiculous laws giving ministers Henry VIII powers while they are at it. It shouldn't be possible for the government to bypass Parliament and make it up as they go along which is what some of these laws effectively enable.

An electoral pact is what we need, but will it happen? Unfortunately, I tend to doubt it.


We're at a point in history when it doesn't matter which party is in charge of our country.. None of our politicians can be trusted and none of them are worth our vote..Everyone needs to wake up to the fact that they hate us.. all of them..

The internet was/is a great freedom giving tool for Joe Public, but eventually it's going to be used to enslave us..
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