Notts County Tickets

https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/2022/may/tickets-grimsby-play-off-150522/

2,000 maximum  

illegitimates

Gonna go fast them arent they

See you in Notts

Think that’s fair enough. They’ll sell out their end.

Not a great allocation, feels a bit short changed.

A p!ss take

At least we can watch it on BT Sport.

Is the club planning on showing the game?

Quoted from davmariner

Think that’s fair enough. They’ll sell out their end.

Will they? The ground holds 24 thousand

Quoted from davmariner

Think that’s fair enough. They’ll sell out their end.

No they won’t. Meadow Lane holds 20,000 and they’ve literally never sold the ground out since it was redeveloped into its current form in the early 90s.

They allowed 4,500 away fans the last time they played a play-off fixture there in 2018. Whether it’s the club or the police, this is someone’s decision and it stinks.

If they can shift 20k home fans then fair enough crack on. But if they only sell 12-17k. Then it's absolutely redicilous

Quoted from lukeo

If they can shift 20k home fans then fair enough crack on. But if they only sell 12-17k. Then it's absolutely redicilous

That’s it, if they sell the ground out then fair play but to have it half-quarter empty is just daft.

It would be nice to know how the decisions are made and who made them

Debbie should take then to task and find reasons why and then get the allocation increased.

I might aswell start it off, any season ticket holders that can't make it then I'd be happy to drop you a few quid for the use of your ticket  

There will be plenty of town fans in the home ends. There was in February.

It stinks but I was expecting it.

They don't want to be outshone by our fans.

I dont blame them to be fair, thats the advantage finishing higher gets you and if we dont go up this year then hopefully next year we'll finish higher (or top)

There will be 2,000 odd empty seats in the stand. It holds more than 2,000 that's for sure, and they wouldn't dare try to put County fans in there so they are going to leave the stand half empty in a cinicle attempt to stiffle our support.

Time for the powers that be to intervene, but I'm not holding my breath.

Can kind of see it from the ‘ let’s not give out opponents a bigger support than we have too ‘

As a town fan , we obviously want as many of us there as possible .. but can see the County point of view

Quoted from goldenfish

Can kind of see it from the ‘ let’s not give out opponents a bigger support than we have too ‘

As a town fan , we obviously want as many of us there as possible .. but can see the County point of view

I do see the view of wanting to minimise away support, but football needs to really become more accessible, especially if there's the capacity for it. It's just daft not to allow people to fill a stadium.

Is the match definitely on BT Sport?

Yes BT are showing all the Van playoffs

Quoted from Epworth Mariner

Is the match definitely on BT Sport?

100% mate, all Play off games are

If any season ticket holder isn't going, would much appreciate if you would be willing to let me kindly have your allocation. I've been to 8 home games this year and 2 away, where my health has allowed. Happy to give you a little extra dosh for your kindness or make a donation to a charity of your choice.

Thanks in advance,
Chris

People with stubs from either last home match on having equal priority with 1878 members devalues the membership scheme a bit for me. The whole reason I got it was for matches like this. Now someone who has only been to one match this season is at the same place in the queue. Nice one.

Quoted from Son of Cod

People with stubs from either last home match on having equal priority with 1878 members devalues the membership scheme a bit for me. The whole reason I got it was for matches like this. Now someone who has only been to one match this season is at the same place in the queue. Nice one.

I'm with you here, the least they could have done is give 1878 members the Thursday morning.

Quoted from Son of Cod

People with stubs from either last home match on having equal priority with 1878 members devalues the membership scheme a bit for me. The whole reason I got it was for matches like this. Now someone who has only been to one match this season is at the same place in the queue. Nice one.

Yep, pay £25 for a membership to get priority and you end up with the same benefit as someone who paid £20 for two adults & two kids in the Osmond Tuesday night.

Really shouldn’t be difficult to work this out in the ticket office but someone always manages to make a bôllocks of it.

Quoted from ska face

Yep, pay £25 for a membership to get priority and you end up with the same benefit as someone who paid £20 for two adults & two kids in the Osmond Tuesday night.

Really shouldn’t be difficult to work this out in the ticket office but someone always manages to make a bôllocks of it.

To quote he who shall not be named, "it devalues the product."

I'm with SoC, Ska and Jimmy. Only reason I got the 1878 membership was for the preference for games like this. I don't think tickets will get past ST holders so it's probably a bit moot but someone hasn't given it due attention

Out of interest do we split the gate receipts in the play offs.

Shocking allocation from Notts that. I can certainly see the points being made by some for doing it. But IMO, you concentrate on selling your own tickets to boost your support, not stifle your opponents.

That is less than they allocated us for the league game, doesn't exactly scream 'faith in ability' does it? Or confidence in their own supporting potential for that matter.

Hope we absolutely stuff them and if we don't get promoted, don't be giving them more than 800 here next season.

Quoted from immariner

I'm with SoC, Ska and Jimmy. Only reason I got the 1878 membership was for the preference for games like this. I don't think tickets will get past ST holders so it's probably a bit moot but someone hasn't given it due attention

I think it’s precisely because they’re unlikely to make it past ST holders that they’ve not given it any attention.

If we’d been given the 4k, they surely would’ve gone the usual ST, 1878, Trust, stubs, Gen sale route. Just looks like someone’s thought “well they’ll not make it past STs, so fúck em, let them all be disappointed together”.

Didn’t see any mention of when Trust members would get access to tickets but as others have said I expect that season ticket holders will take up all 2000.

Maybe it's the optimist in me, but I'm not convinced all 2000 will get snapped up by ST holders. It hasn't been the case for a number of matches this season with initial allocations and with it being on a Monday night and having gone through a last minute date change I reckon there might be some left on Thursday morning but there definitely won't be many and they'll all be gone later that day if there are some.

They are not going to sell 18k home tickets maybe 12k so if the ground reall does hold 20k it will be 25% empty

Quoted from HerveJosse

They are not going to sell 18k home tickets maybe 12k so if the ground reall does hold 20k it will be 25% empty

Lets hope that by FT it's 75% empty like it was in January.

Rightly or wrongly I doubt this is going to change, so this is the last I’ll say on this. A week ago, MK Dons limited Wycombe to 2,000 tickets for their play-off second leg, despite having the capacity to have given them as many as they wanted. Not only that, they split them into two sections in the otherwise (virtually always) unused upper tier.

Guess who’s going Wembley? These are great examples of writing the opposition team talk. If anything, it reeks of fear and insecurity. Bring it on!

https://mobile.twitter.com/_theawayends/status/1523361124493967360

Quoted from Poojah

Rightly or wrongly I doubt this is going to change, so this is the last I’ll say on this. A week ago, MK Dons limited Wycombe to 2,000 tickets for their play-off second leg, despite having the capacity to have given them as many as they wanted. Not only that, they split them into two sections in the otherwise (virtually always) unused upper tier.

Guess who’s going Wembley? These are great examples of writing the opposition team talk. If anything, it reeks of fear and insecurity. Bring it on!

https://mobile.twitter.com/_theawayends/status/1523361124493967360

MK Dons looks a nice ground from that photo

Last laugh was Wycombes, dont know how many tickets they could sold but MK Dongs only lost out as a result.

I am seriously considering buying a ticket for Mrs CummingsTackle and myself in the home section. They're not going to sell 18000 tickets.
We'll behave ourselves.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I am seriously considering buying a ticket for Mrs CummingsTackle and myself in the home section. They're not going to sell 18000 tickets.
We'll behave ourselves.

You certainly won’t be alone!

Anyone buying in the home end - do so under a different email address, different card and/or address if you can (just get a friend to do it). The GTFC ticket office pass on booking history if you’ve a record with them, so you’ll end up getting your tickets cancelled.

The minimum allocation for a play-off game according to NL rules is 600 or 10% of total capacity which ever is greater.

2,000 is the minimum allocation plus 16 based on their advertised ground capacity of 19,841.

So if we ever get to play Notts in a play-off game at BP we should just give them 900 tickets and tell them to “f*** off”.

Quoted from ska face

Anyone buying in the home end - do so under a different email address, different card and/or address if you can (just get a friend to do it). The GTFC ticket office pass on booking history if you’ve a record with them, so you’ll end up getting your tickets cancelled.

I'm thinking go for the stand to the left of the away stand and as close as possible to the Town fans who'll be at that end of the away stand? I think it will still be a risk getting tickets cancelled if the "friend" has Lincs postcode. I should be ok, have work colleagues who live in Nottingham.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

The minimum allocation for a play-off game according to NL rules is 600 or 10% of total capacity which ever is greater.

2,000 is the minimum allocation plus 16 based on their advertised ground capacity of 19,841.

So if we ever get to play Notts in a play-off game at BP we should just give them 900 tickets and tell them to “f*** off”.

It seems a shame to me that clubs have the prerogative to prevent fans from attending the game who would like to, when there will otherwise be swathes of empty seats. You'd have thought football would have learned something from the behind closed doors pandemic-era about the value fans bring to occasions such as this, but hey ho, whatever...

The sad thing is that the notion that restricting Town's allocation furthers Notts County's home advantage is overly simplistic and counter-intuitive anyway. On the surface, it seems obvious that 4,000 Town fans would make twice the noise of 2,000, but that fundamentally misunderstands the dynamics of football crowds.

A Town following of 4,000, by its very nature, includes around 3,000 people who do not regularly attend away games. In my experience, very large Town away crowds have always been anti-climatic; it's much harder to generate an atmosphere when you have that kind of mix. I'd argue that the sweet spot does in fact lie somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000, ironically.

The reverse is going to be true for County. If they sell 13,000 home tickets, that's 50% of the crowd made up of Johnny-come-lately's there in anticipation of a good night out at the football. 6,500 nervy, hard core County fans interspersed with another 6,500 impatient and expectant fair weather types is probably not the recipe for atmosphere the powers that be at Meadow Lane think it will be. How many times have we seen bumper crowds at BP turn out especially quiet and edgy? It happens more often than not.

Sadder than all that though is that all of this overlooks the fact that by far the most important factors on the night will take place on the pitch, not in the stands. If fan power counted for all that much Solihull and Halifax wouldn't be in the play-offs. In fact, the likes of Town and Notts County wouldn't even be in this division in the first place. It's not how it works.

All this is achieving is preventing regular football fans who want to watch an important match in their club's history from doing so, and increasing the risk of away fans finding their way into the home end. It's petty, it's wholly unnecessary and I hope it backfires spectacularly.

Quoted from ska face

Anyone buying in the home end - do so under a different email address, different card and/or address if you can (just get a friend to do it). The GTFC ticket office pass on booking history if you’ve a record with them, so you’ll end up getting your tickets cancelled.

That would be a breach of the Data Protection Act if they do. Hopefully our new regime wouldn’t do that.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

I'm thinking go for the stand to the left of the away stand and as close as possible to the Town fans who'll be at that end of the away stand? I think it will still be a risk getting tickets cancelled if the "friend" has Lincs postcode. I should be ok, have work colleagues who live in Nottingham.

At least most people should already have a black & white scarf!

Sure it’s been mentioned on here before but there was a thread on Twitter where someone tried to explain some of the reasoning behind the decision. One of the issues was the size of the concourse and the problems it causes.

To be fair, that concourse is not even remotely fit for purpose. There have been massive crushes at the bottom of the stairs every time I’ve been in that stand purely because there’s not enough room. Queues for the kiosks are fúcked because there’s a barrier where you’d expect a queue to form, so you end up with people queuing, hitting that barrier and not knowing where to go. The stewards do absolutely nothing, less than zero, and the kiosk staff look like they’ve been dragged off the street 10 mins before KO. They flapped it and shut the whole thing at HT in Feb because they aren’t used to serving more than 1 man & a dog and they all froze before the supervisor cried off. If there was 4000 in there it would be awful - and that’s not down to any town fan, it’s a costs/logistics problem at Notts that that can’t be ársed to solve.

Quoted from ska face

At least most people should already have a black & white scarf!

Sure it’s been mentioned on here before but there was a thread on Twitter where someone tried to explain some of the reasoning behind the decision. One of the issues was the size of the concourse and the problems it causes.

To be fair, that concourse is not even remotely fit for purpose. There have been massive crushes at the bottom of the stairs every time I’ve been in that stand purely because there’s not enough room. Queues for the kiosks are fúcked because there’s a barrier where you’d expect a queue to form, so you end up with people queuing, hitting that barrier and not knowing where to go. The stewards do absolutely nothing, less than zero, and the kiosk staff look like they’ve been dragged off the street 10 mins before KO. They flapped it and shut the whole thing at HT in Feb because they aren’t used to serving more than 1 man & a dog and they all froze before the supervisor cried off. If there was 4000 in there it would be awful - and that’s not down to any town fan, it’s a costs/logistics problem at Notts that that can’t be ársed to solve.

They coped with 4,500 Coventry fans a few years back in the L2 play-offs.

And didn’t they allow 3,500 Chesterfield fans after we went there?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

They coped with 4,500 Coventry fans a few years back in the L2 play-offs.

And didn’t they allow 3,500 Chesterfield fans after we went there?

I was there, absolutely packed to the rafters!  

Quoted from GollyGTFC

They coped with 4,500 Coventry fans a few years back in the L2 play-offs.

And didn’t they allow 3,500 Chesterfield fans after we went there?

I imagine they probably ‘coped’ in the same way they coped with us on February - absolute chaos, kids crushed, people falling down the stairs, stewards watching on.

Quoted from ska face

At least most people should already have a black & white scarf!

Sure it’s been mentioned on here before but there was a thread on Twitter where someone tried to explain some of the reasoning behind the decision. One of the issues was the size of the concourse and the problems it causes.

To be fair, that concourse is not even remotely fit for purpose. There have been massive crushes at the bottom of the stairs every time I’ve been in that stand purely because there’s not enough room. Queues for the kiosks are fúcked because there’s a barrier where you’d expect a queue to form, so you end up with people queuing, hitting that barrier and not knowing where to go. The stewards do absolutely nothing, less than zero, and the kiosk staff look like they’ve been dragged off the street 10 mins before KO. They flapped it and shut the whole thing at HT in Feb because they aren’t used to serving more than 1 man & a dog and they all froze before the supervisor cried off. If there was 4000 in there it would be awful - and that’s not down to any town fan, it’s a costs/logistics problem at Notts that that can’t be ársed to solve.

Pretty sure they shut at least one of the kiosks before kickoff too when it was absolutely rammed down there. My gate number didn't match the number on my ticket either and had to fight my way back through it all twice I seem to remember. The stewards are incredibly hands off, I'm totally with you on that.

MK gave Wycombe only 1200 for the second leg of their play off. 2 blocks of 600, in the gods and apart from each other to avoid them creating an atmosphere
I know we should expect nothing less from the franchisees but so pleased when Wycombe beat them

Quoted from HerveJosse

That would be a breach of the Data Protection Act if they do. Hopefully our new regime wouldn’t do that.

No, its somewhere in the t&cs when you buy online/join 1878/get ST etc.

Quoted from HerveJosse

That would be a breach of the Data Protection Act if they do. Hopefully our new regime wouldn’t do that.

I imagine people have agreed to the sharing of data by purchasing a ticket as it will no doubt be somewhere in the terms & conditions; unfortunately.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I imagine people have agreed to the sharing of data by purchasing a ticket as it will no doubt be somewhere in the terms & conditions; unfortunately.

Being in general terms isn’t enough anymore. People have to opt in to any sharing of their data and agreement can’t legally be assumed by making a purchase.

From the Notts County Footymad forum:

"Apparently the ticket money for all the play off games is pooled and shared between the six clubs, so it wouldn't be a good idea to sell more tickets to Grimsby fans, over the limit of 2,000. Like others have said, if the Sirrel is full of away fans, they will always generate more noise/support than us, therefore almost giving them home advantage."

Is this correct about the pooled ticket money?

County fans seem more preoccupied with our fans rather than our players.

Wrexham don't care - they are sure they can see off either County or us at home, according to their forum. Panicky about Solihull, though.

UTM

Quoted from Sconeboy

You certainly won’t be alone!

Notts creating a bigger problem for themselves, for the stewards and old bill, by not giving us the whole away end, which I sure we could fill. They will be many GTFC supporters wanting to attend, not able to get a ticket in the away end, so will resort to buying tickets in the home end, which in turn makes policing at the ground a lot harder, when you could have all the away supporters in one section of the ground.
Surely it makes more sense to have all the away supporters in the same section of the ground, rather than potentially having pockets of away fans in the home section.
So if they is a trouble, dont going pointing the finger at GTFC fans, because Notts County & the old bill may have inadvertently contributed by miss management of the situation.

Hopefully the match is incident free and town win.

UTM

Quoted from golfer

MK Dons looks a nice ground from that photo

It's definitely too good for the BFS  🤬

The thing that confuses me is that any club at our level gets so few opportunities to fill the ground that you would expect them to jump at the chance. This is potentially County's biggest pay day in a long time and maybe for the foreseeable future.

Maybe the pooling of money acts as a disincentive to do this.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Being in general terms isn’t enough anymore. People have to opt in to any sharing of their data and agreement can’t legally be assumed by making a purchase.

Is that definitely correct? I'd be surprised if the two clubs don't have the right to share data for "security" reasons in the T and Cs.

From Liverpool FC's

12.2 You acknowledge that the Club will hold and process data relating to you, which may include personal data, for administrative and legal purposes. The personal data that you provide to the Club shall be processed, stored and transferred in accordance with the terms of the Club's current privacy policy. In particular, we may share your personal data, including your name, date of birth, photograph, contact details and information about ticket purchases (including payment details and the names of ticket holders) with other football clubs, any Football Authority and with law enforcement authorities. This data will be used for the purpose of identifying and preventing violent and antisocial behaviour at matches, including racial, homophobic or discriminatory abuse, chanting or harassment and with enforcing sanctions under the Commitment. We may also share your data in order to support with the handling of fan enquiries and to allow for rapid identification of fans in the event of incidents including health emergencies and general crowd control emergencies.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

The thing that confuses me is that any club at our level gets so few opportunities to fill the ground that you would expect them to jump at the chance. This is potentially County's biggest pay day in a long time and maybe for the foreseeable future.

Maybe the pooling of money acts as a disincentive to do this.

Not saying I agree with this position but I imagine they're hedging the extra £20,000 they could make to give them more of a home advantage towards getting back into the league, which will give them extra income that will absolutely dwarf away end revenue for a single game.   Then there's the funding for youth set-ups etc.  Morally, it's wrong.  I'd also question if it's actually a negative for them as it makes them look worried from the off.  But I get why they would think limiting away numbers is to their advantage.

This has got disaster and carnage written all over it.  Demand will significantly outstrip demand in the away end, but with ample extra capacity in the home ends.  You don't need to be a genius to work out that there will be considerable number of Town fans chancing it and getting in the home ends.  How the hell you can police ticket sales beyond addresses of those living with 10 miles of DN35 is anyone's guess.  

Seem to remember the Town ticket office adopting a fool proof system of quizzing opposition fans on their GTFC history knowledge when ringing up for tickets in the home end...  For anyone who does try to go in the home end, Steve Cherry was the goalkeeper the last time Notts County were in the top flight.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Not saying I agree with this position but I imagine they're hedging the extra £20,000 they could make to give them more of a home advantage towards getting back into the league, which will give them extra income that will absolutely dwarf away end revenue for a single game.   Then there's the funding for youth set-ups etc.  Morally, it's wrong.  I'd also question if it's actually a negative for them as it makes them look worried from the off.  But I get why they would think limiting away numbers is to their advantage.

This has got disaster and carnage written all over it.  Demand will significantly outstrip demand in the away end, but with ample extra capacity in the home ends.  You don't need to be a genius to work out that there will be considerable number of Town fans chancing it and getting in the home ends.  How the hell you can police ticket sales beyond addresses of those living with 10 miles of DN35 is anyone's guess.  

Seem to remember the Town ticket office adopting a fool proof system of quizzing opposition fans on their GTFC history knowledge when ringing up for tickets in the home end...  For anyone who does try to go in the home end, Steve Cherry was the goalkeeper the last time Notts County were in the top flight.

Does getting back in the league dwarf income from games like this? I genuinely don't know.

One of the sobering aspects of us getting promoted back to the league last time was that we had won the right to play Stevenage away on a Tuesday night in February (or whatever). Hardly the big time.

That hack Times article/video rearing its head again on this Twitter thread. It's an absolute joke if the safety advisory groups and Police consider this kind of one sided propaganda in their decisions on away allocations. "Grimsby fans threatened to invade the pitch at the last game at Meadow Lane."

https://twitter.com/salbre81/status/1526005287026671616?s=21&t=4HO99ZmWCYmHqVRW1tJdIA

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Is that definitely correct? I'd be surprised if the two clubs don't have the right to share data for "security" reasons in the T and Cs.

From Liverpool FC's

12.2 You acknowledge that the Club will hold and process data relating to you, which may include personal data, for administrative and legal purposes. The personal data that you provide to the Club shall be processed, stored and transferred in accordance with the terms of the Club's current privacy policy. In particular, we may share your personal data, including your name, date of birth, photograph, contact details and information about ticket purchases (including payment details and the names of ticket holders) with other football clubs, any Football Authority and with law enforcement authorities. This data will be used for the purpose of identifying and preventing violent and antisocial behaviour at matches, including racial, homophobic or discriminatory abuse, chanting or harassment and with enforcing sanctions under the Commitment. We may also share your data in order to support with the handling of fan enquiries and to allow for rapid identification of fans in the event of incidents including health emergencies and general crowd control emergencies.

Note the restrictive nature for which the Data can be shared not in case someone try’s to buy a ticket

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

I'm thinking go for the stand to the left of the away stand and as close as possible to the Town fans who'll be at that end of the away stand? I think it will still be a risk getting tickets cancelled if the "friend" has Lincs postcode. I should be ok, have work colleagues who live in Nottingham.

That's the family stand and you will stick out like a sore thumb in a stand of kids
One of the main problems imo is the chaos that your fans caused before and after the last game at Meadow Lane,the away stand holds 5000(ish) and when we played Coventry their allocation was 4500 so it might be on police advice rather than other conspiracy theories, personally I don't think that Notts nor Grimsby will be good enough to go up but looking forward to the game non the less

Quoted from HerveJosse

Note the restrictive nature for which the Data can be shared not in case someone try’s to buy a ticket

But elsewhere in their T and Cs you are "warranting and representing that you are a supporter of the club" if you buy a ticket for a home area and there is a right to cancel the ticket if you turn out to be an away fan.

Combining the two clauses Notts would simply say any check of the ticket holders presence on a GTFC database is to prevent the threat of violence and anti-social behaviour

full T and Cs here [url]https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/ticket-terms[/url]

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Does getting back in the league dwarf income from games like this? I genuinely don't know.

One of the sobering aspects of us getting promoted back to the league last time was that we had won the right to play Stevenage away on a Tuesday night in February (or whatever). Hardly the big time.

£1million isn't it?   I think County will be out of the period of getting any parachute payments next season too.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Is that definitely correct? I'd be surprised if the two clubs don't have the right to share data for "security" reasons in the T and Cs.

From Liverpool FC's

12.2 You acknowledge that the Club will hold and process data relating to you, which may include personal data, for administrative and legal purposes. The personal data that you provide to the Club shall be processed, stored and transferred in accordance with the terms of the Club's current privacy policy. In particular, we may share your personal data, including your name, date of birth, photograph, contact details and information about ticket purchases (including payment details and the names of ticket holders) with other football clubs, any Football Authority and with law enforcement authorities. This data will be used for the purpose of identifying and preventing violent and antisocial behaviour at matches, including racial, homophobic or discriminatory abuse, chanting or harassment and with enforcing sanctions under the Commitment. We may also share your data in order to support with the handling of fan enquiries and to allow for rapid identification of fans in the event of incidents including health emergencies and general crowd control emergencies.

That is in reference to Liverpool selling away match tickets to Liverpool fans. When a club sells away tickets it is in effect acting as a ticket agent for the home club. LFC sell tickets to their fans on behalf of whoever they are playing. As such the home club has the right to know the details of the people who LFC have sold tickets to on their behalf.

Liverpool FC are a third party in the transaction. The customer is the fan buying the ticket & the home club are supplying the service (entry to the match).

As such GTFC should send NCFC the basic details of everyone who buys a ticket for the game from our ticket office.

There is no legal justification for any club to send their entire fan database to another club.

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

That's the family stand and you will stick out like a sore thumb in a stand of kids
One of the main problems imo is the chaos that your fans caused before and after the last game at Meadow Lane,the away stand holds 5000(ish) and when we played Coventry their allocation was 4500 so it might be on police advice rather than other conspiracy theories, personally I don't think that Notts nor Grimsby will be good enough to go up but looking forward to the game non the less

So the stand opposite the away stand then?

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

That's the family stand and you will stick out like a sore thumb in a stand of kids
One of the main problems imo is the chaos that your fans caused before and after the last game at Meadow Lane,the away stand holds 5000(ish) and when we played Coventry their allocation was 4500 so it might be on police advice rather than other conspiracy theories, personally I don't think that Notts nor Grimsby will be good enough to go up but looking forward to the game non the less

Chaos? What chaos did we cause?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

But elsewhere in their T and Cs you are "warranting and representing that you are a supporter of the club" if you buy a ticket for a home area and there is a right to cancel the ticket if you turn out to be an away fan.

Combining the two clauses Notts would simply say any check of the ticket holders presence on a GTFC database is to prevent the threat of violence and anti-social behaviour

full T and Cs here [url]https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/ticket-terms[/url]

You clearly believe we live in a police state. Any use of the clauses like this for specific purposes has to be proportionate you can’t link Aand B and assume anybody buying a ticket does so with the intent of causing violence and anti social behaviour

It’s all down to GDPR

General Data Protection Regulation requirements prohibit companies from hiding behind illegible terms and conditions that are difficult to understand. Instead, GDPR compliance requires companies to clearly define their data privacy policies and make them easily accessible.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Chaos? What chaos did we cause?

There was a report of the behaviour of Grimsby fans at the time online (The Times?) of drug use,drunkiness and the smashing up of a train on the way down to Nottingham plus tales of trouble from other Notts fans at the time

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

So the stand opposite the away stand then?

I would suggest that you don't travel at all if you don't have a ticket but if you do and you can sit on your hands when/if Grimsby score then the Pavis stand would be best (yes the one opposite the away stand)
It's unfortunate that a club supporters get tarnished with the same brush just because of a few idiots but that's the news that makes the headlines I suppose

‘IF’ we do get past county. Wrexham will give us approx 1200.
Their ground currently holds approx 11500 I believe.
With the home stands sold out that’s all we’ll take !!
But let’s get past the ‘if’ first.
UTM

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

It’s all down to GDPR

General Data Protection Regulation requirements prohibit companies from hiding behind illegible terms and conditions that are difficult to understand. Instead, GDPR compliance requires companies to clearly define their data privacy policies and make them easily accessible.

As online purchases are in the form of e-tickets, what legitimate reason do Notts have to store my address?

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

There was a report of the behaviour of Grimsby fans at the time online (The Times?) of drug use,drunkiness and the smashing up of a train on the way down to Nottingham plus tales of trouble from other Notts fans at the time

How many people from the Grimsby area were arrested that day?  What about carnage that Leicester City caused recently, far worst than the Notts County v Grimsby game.

So I guess every Forest home game they is never a trouble from the fans, its just us malding fans from Grimsby because we have nothing better to do.  Every club has its fair share of idiots, when we are treated like animals, what do you expect, treat us with respect and dignity

Times journalist Lawton was in attendance for the East Midlands derby as Nottingham Forest hosted rivals Leicester City in the FA Cup on Sunday, February 6, and witnessed drugs being consumed, amongst other disturbances – including a Foxes supporter who was arrested for invading the pitch and attacking Forest players.

After speaking with the head of football policing, Mark Roberts, the football writer agreed to join police to shadow their operation during a number of games, to see for himself what they’re having to deal with on a weekly basis.

“They suggested two matches in Nottingham – Notts County vs Grimsby on the Saturday and Forest vs Leicester on the Sunday – they expected those games to be problematic[/b]. I spent the weekend on the frontline seeing for myself what they deal with,” he said on White and Jordan

“We started on the Saturday morning with the arrival of Grimsby fans at Nottingham station.

“We arrived and the first operation was called Operation Wolfgang with the sniffer dogs to see if these guys were turning up with Class-A drugs – and it proved to be the case.

“They set up a checkpoint[b], the dogs were there, and what we found was that once they’d all gone through, and some of them were stopped as the dogs responded accordingly, was that they had dumped bags of cocaine on the platform. Once 400 of these guys had gone through, the train platform was littered with drugs. It was extraordinary.

And Lawton revealed his eye witness account of the scenes of ‘carnage’ before Sunday’s cup game as an organised group of Leicester hooligans descended on a pub where locals were enjoying their lunch.

“I didn’t realise the Baby Squad at Leicester still existed, this crew that has been written about in book about football hooliganism, it was founded in 1981, and the Forest Executive Crew, but at the police strategy meeting in the morning they were talking about those crews, known members and the fact they had intelligence they were planning to meet,” he said.

“The two teams hadn’t played since 2014 and they were planning to meet somewhere unspecified in the city centre.

Hooligan groups formed in the 1970s and 80s are still active across the country

“We started at the train station but were soon aware that once the first few trains had come in that they hadn’t come on the train. They’d probably come in another way, in minibuses.

“Suddenly they got the call, fighting had broken out outside this pub and when we turned up it was total carnage.

“There were people eating their Sunday lunch in this pub and Leicester City fans are throwing tables and chairs through the windows  – it was horrific.”

Lawton’s take away from his weekend spent on the police frontlines was that, unless everyone works together, football could be going back to what it used to be in the 1970s and 80s.

Do the old bill set up a check point in Carnary Wharf to see how many of the City bankers are high on drugs every morning, no just target the easy targets, its all their fault.

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

There was a report of the behaviour of Grimsby fans at the time online (The Times?) of drug use,drunkiness and the smashing up of a train on the way down to Nottingham plus tales of trouble from other Notts fans at the time

And you believed them? Absolute gutter press. All teams have a small handful of people who act idiotically at football matches, the majority of us are hard working, professional, respectable people. UTM

Quoted from diehardmariner

Seem to remember the Town ticket office adopting a fool proof system of quizzing opposition fans on their GTFC history knowledge when ringing up for tickets in the home end...  For anyone who does try to go in the home end, Steve Cherry was the goalkeeper the last time Notts County were in the top flight.

I'm going to call the person I'm speaking to duck and reference the chip cob I've just had. Easy!

Chalky, the "trouble" that was reported was blown out of proportion by a film crew that turned up hoping to film Town fans rioting. There wasn't enough trouble for them to report so they tacked on trouble from Leicester fans in Nottingham the following day to make up their documentary. The report about the train was again blown out of proportion.  There was a lot of rubbish strewn about but no actual damage. The documentary was a classic example of the press sensationalism and over exaggeration. They came for a story and ended up having to make one up.

Quoted from Tinymariner

And you believed them? Absolute gutter press. All teams have a small handful of people who act idiotically at football matches, the majority of us are hard working, professional, respectable people. UTM

I did say in post 73 that it's unfortunate that genuine supporters get tarnished with the same brush as the club's idiots

Quoted from Abdul19

I'm going to call the person I'm speaking to duck and reference the chip cob I've just had. Easy!

Miduck would be even better

Quoted from HerveJosse

Miduck would be even better

Also two weeks to learn to speak Welsh.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

But elsewhere in their T and Cs you are "warranting and representing that you are a supporter of the club" if you buy a ticket for a home area and there is a right to cancel the ticket if you turn out to be an away fan.

Combining the two clauses Notts would simply say any check of the ticket holders presence on a GTFC database is to prevent the threat of violence and anti-social behaviour

full T and Cs here [url]https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/ticket-terms[/url]

The internet is a legal quagmire where sensible folk don't venture.

Any lawyer (honest or otherwise) could challenge Notts County to explain why someone handing over their hard-earned cash to attend a football match at their
home ground is not 'supporting the club'.

So you try to redefine 'supporter' in a different way and... etc. etc... it becomes a lawyers playground.
(e.g.) Should a 'supporter' be defined as a person who has repeatedly handed over their hard-earned cash to attend a football match at the club's home ground, then no
first-time attender could be classed as a supporter, and would be denied a ticket in their home end. Over time, this would ensure the home end is completely empty.

Another point - the most evil Home Secretary in living memory (Priti Patel) - has granted the police the power to stop & search anyone (without needing a reason) in
situations where there is a likelihood of violence.
Thus, if the reason for accessing the GTFC database is as given in the post, the police will have carte-blanche to search any Town fan.
Like Stevenage, but legally unchallengeable.

We may not live in a police state yet, but we're heading there rapidly i.m.o. barring a change of Government.

Personally, I take the view that Notts finished 5 points ahead of us at the end of the season -  so we're kind of lucky to have the chance to take a promotion spot
instead of them. So I just hope for the result we all want.

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

There was a report of the behaviour of Grimsby fans at the time online (The Times?) of drug use,drunkiness and the smashing up of a train on the way down to Nottingham plus tales of trouble from other Notts fans at the time

Did you go to the match? If yes, did you see any trouble that was out of the ordinary?

Quoted from HerveJosse

You clearly believe we live in a police state. Any use of the clauses like this for specific purposes has to be proportionate you can’t link Aand B and assume anybody buying a ticket does so with the intent of causing violence and anti social behaviour

Getting close to one with the Police Bill...up to 10 years for a noisy protest.

There are instances of people having their e-tickets cancelled after database cross checks. I'd probably be ok with a Leicestershire address, but Notts might decide to do some random checks on "new fans". Anyway I'm sorted for tickets...

Quoted from Son of Cod

Did you go to the match? If yes, did you see any trouble that was out of the ordinary?

Yes I was at the game and enjoyed the noisy atmosphere of the Grimsby fans but I can't say that I witnessed anything outside the ground as I usually park in the car park opposite and go straight into the ground,my comment was made on the Times report and hearsay,I've given the report another look on YouTube and tbf Grimsby fans didn't come over as any worst than any other clubs fans on a big game

Mine in the bag, but do live in Notts these days

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

Yes I was at the game and enjoyed the noisy atmosphere of the Grimsby fans but I can't say that I witnessed anything outside the ground as I usually park in the car park opposite and go straight into the ground,my comment was made on the Times report and hearsay,I've given the report another look on YouTube and tbf Grimsby fans didn't come over as any worst than any other clubs fans on a big game

Well then with all due respect, you're part of the problem here. You've been to the game and didn't see any trouble, but have then gone and said that we caused chaos based off an article. If people who have first hand experience of that day are being suckered in by it then what hope do we have. It's annoying that we've not got a bigger allocation but I personally don't have a problem with Notts only giving us 2000 to give themselves a home advantage but if the slander in that article has contributed to any decision it's an absolute pisstake. We've been shat on by police forces and safety advisory groups a lot over recent seasons and this season has been no exception, so it's kind of a sore point among Town fans and it's frustrating to read fans of other clubs being taken in by a media agenda being fuelled by sensationalism.

Quoted from 137

The internet is a legal quagmire where sensible folk don't venture.

Any lawyer (honest or otherwise) could challenge Notts County to explain why someone handing over their hard-earned cash to attend a football match at their
home ground is not 'supporting the club'.

So you try to redefine 'supporter' in a different way and... etc. etc... it becomes a lawyers playground.
(e.g.) Should a 'supporter' be defined as a person who has repeatedly handed over their hard-earned cash to attend a football match at the club's home ground, then no
first-time attender could be classed as a supporter, and would be denied a ticket in their home end. Over time, this would ensure the home end is completely empty.

Another point - the most evil Home Secretary in living memory (Priti Patel) - has granted the police the power to stop & search anyone (without needing a reason) in
situations where there is a likelihood of violence.
Thus, if the reason for accessing the GTFC database is as given in the post, the police will have carte-blanche to search any Town fan.
Like Stevenage, but legally unchallengeable.

We may not live in a police state yet, but we're heading there rapidly i.m.o. barring a change of Government.

Personally, I take the view that Notts finished 5 points ahead of us at the end of the season -  so we're kind of lucky to have the chance to take a promotion spot
instead of them. So I just hope for the result we all want.

Haven't football clubs had the right to search football fans going into a ground for years now?

I can see your point of view Son of God but I was only being honest in what I thought was true,unless it kicked off at the turnstiles that I go through then I wouldn't have witnessed it anyway and there was stories at the time of trouble around the ground afterwards plus stuff was posted on a Notts forum that backed it up,anyway I dont want to ruffle any feathers with you but why has the police shat on Grimsby fans in the past?

No! Police are the only ones that can legally search you. Then there are suppose to be rules that have to be strictly followed. Females can only be searched by female police officers, and then if it involves intimate searches they have to take you to the nearest police station to do it.

Security guards can request to search you, if you are going into a public venue for example, and they can refuse you entry if you refuse, but they have no legal right.

Quoted from vinno69

Mine in the bag, but do live in Notts these days

Like I said they will be pockets of town in alll areas of the ground, how many is the question.

Quoted from The Yard Dog

Like I said they will be pockets of town in alll areas of the ground, how many is the question.

About 500 tops.

All the alleged issues last time were all blown out of proportion, even from town fans.

Was working with a kid today, he’s buzzing we’ve got to the playoffs and proper excited. Was great to see young kids excited about the club…

Quoted from vinno69

Mine in the bag, but do live in Notts these days

Quoted from ncfc_chalky

I can see your point of view Son of God but I was only being honest in what I thought was true,unless it kicked off at the turnstiles that I go through then I wouldn't have witnessed it anyway and there was stories at the time of trouble around the ground afterwards plus stuff was posted on a Notts forum that backed it up,anyway I dont want to ruffle any feathers with you but why has the police shat on Grimsby fans in the past?

Stories, hear say and Chinese whispers.
Well done fella, why you're still allowed on this forum I'll never know you excrement stirrer.