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"You do realise we got Hurst from a lower division" YES, and we waited seven years for him to get us up. So if we get someone new and untried, that's 2029 for Div 4.
Not particularly one for pedantry but Hurst and his chum Rob Scott were appointed in late March 2011 and we were promoted in May 2016, so a little over 5 years. Scott was sacked in 2013, so Hurst had three full seasons in sole charge, reaching the play-off semi-finals once, the play-off final once and then finally winning the play-offs the following season. Yeah, there were frustrating moments. That’s football to a degree, but they were there for sure. And maybe we were lucky in some aspects of our one successful play-off campaign. But if that’s true, then we were incredibly unlucky against Gateshead and Bristol Rovers in the previous seasons. It’s not that difficult to make a good argument to sack Hurst, he’d have been long gone at most clubs under remotely similar circumstances. But he is a steady Eddie if nothing else. Given sufficient time, history suggests he’d get things settled down. I don’t believe he’d leave the club in ruins, as others have done. In the past, a lack of due diligence when appointing managers has given us loose cannons like Mike Newell, Marcus Bignot (even though his statistical record looks surprisingly good in retrospect, he was a madman) and most recently Ian Holloway. And so by all means, if we reach those crossroads and decide the only option is to pull the trigger then so be it. But we had better have done our homework first on who we want to replace him. Whatever we do now carries risk, but one route is more familiar than the other. If we decide to go in the other direction we have to be very confident it’s the best one to take.
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It's also bullshit, so wouldn't really pay much notice to it. A bit like Hurst has only won 10% of his last 100 games, it's not true and the truth is bad enough. We've had a lot of managers, but it isn't that many.
I believe the OP I quoted included interim managers in that number too which makes it very plausible.
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Not particularly one for pedantry but Hurst and his chum Rob Scott were appointed in late March 2011 and we were promoted in May 2016, so a little over 5 years.
Scott was sacked in 2013, so Hurst had three full seasons in sole charge, reaching the play-off semi-finals once, the play-off final once and then finally winning the play-offs the following season.
Yeah, there were frustrating moments. That’s football to a degree, but they were there for sure. And maybe we were lucky in some aspects of our one successful play-off campaign. But if that’s true, then we were incredibly unlucky against Gateshead and Bristol Rovers in the previous seasons.
It’s not that difficult to make a good argument to sack Hurst, he’d have been long gone at most clubs under remotely similar circumstances. But he is a steady Eddie if nothing else. Given sufficient time, history suggests he’d get things settled down. I don’t believe he’d leave the club in ruins, as others have done.
In the past, a lack of due diligence when appointing managers has given us loose cannons like Mike Newell, Marcus Bignot (even though his statistical record looks surprisingly good in retrospect, he was a madman) and most recently Ian Holloway.
And so by all means, if we reach those crossroads and decide the only option is to pull the trigger then so be it. But we had better have done our homework first on who we want to replace him.
Whatever we do now carries risk, but one route is more familiar than the other. If we decide to go in the other direction we have to be very confident it’s the best one to take.
Steady eddies are ok and a fair description of hurst tbf but I just think football like all walks of life as moved on. We appear tactically behind many teams we don’t have a set style of play and even if we do grab that 7th spot which looks unlikely I can’t see us beating the teams above us. We’ve all seen his interviews he looks broken he certainly doesn’t look like a man whose going to drive us forward.
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Page 3 of this thread. Poojah and big Chris, best 2 posts I've seen on here for a long time. UTM.
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Page 3 of this thread. Poojah and big Chris, best 2 posts I've seen on here for a long time. UTM.
Big Chris makes the point people have a option of supporting or not , gates are standing up fairly well at the moment but that won’t last forever if we can’t challenge the play off spots
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So those that still give Mr Hurst 100%, at what point would you decide that enough is enough ?
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Exactly, a safe pair of hands. No hysterics, no rants, no gobbledegook, no one-liners nobody understands, no whinges, no promises etc etc etc. Yes, the guy looks beaten lately, but how many ways can you say we were rubbish. Why did a player get sent off and we lost, why did a player pass back short, and we lost? Amos today put us under the cosh today, and I'm positive the team didn't train to do that. Hurst has been here less than 13 months, let's wait until the end of the season and then see.
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So those that still give Mr Hurst 100%, at what point would you decide that enough is enough ?
Doesn't matter. He's here until the board decide otherwise, so either support him or don't.
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So those that still give Mr Hurst 100%, at what point would you decide that enough is enough ?
For me personally if it gets to the point we can't get into the playoffs position this season (mathematically) if it goes down to the last couple of games then I'm not sure what to think. My personal hope and expectation is a top 7 finish. I don't expect us to be promoted (obviously I want us to be) but I expect us to get into that top 7.
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