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RichMariner
January 25, 2022, 1:26pm
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Did Wrexham pay anything to get Mullin in the summer?

He's got 11 in 20 this season, from what I can see. Can't remember what his wages were speculated to be, I imagine Palmer will probably demand something close to what he's on if they're willing to spend £300k on him.

Stockwood spoke a while back about the imbalance of finances in this division. I don't think he had a go at any club owners (if they want to pay that amount of money for a player then good luck to them) but more calling on the people who run this league to create a fairer system for everyone.

There will always be an element of competitive advantage, whether it's size of crowd, catchment area, parent clubs or finances itself. But it makes it hard to compete with the way Wrexham are doing things, especially if you're Wealdstone or Maidenhead, and it may cause other clubs to play with money they don't have, just to compete.

Long term it's dangerous. But who are we to tell someone how not to spend their money when they've earned it themselves? Just concerned about the wider situation, really.


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There's only ever been 4 bounces back to the football league the season after relegation? Brizzle Rovers a few years back and Lincoln in the 80's? Can't think of the others.  

Carlisle mid-2000s and Cheltenham the season we went back up.
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Excellent post….a rare dose of calm pragmatism and reason in a swirling pot of spiteful and unrealistic hyperbole.


I agree. So many posters on here who are experts on spending somebody else's money.


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Perhaps they are preparing for a salary cap, just in case it is implemented next season.

Getting their spending done now while they can.
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EGM on Thursday afternoon may level.the salary playing field??

A couple of months ago, fans on here were laughing at cash splashed by Stockport and Wrexham with their positions then.

They're not laughing now as we are back down in 10th and they have both shot past us !!
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Quoted from diehardmariner
Right, this is pissing me off now.

All these digs at the board for not splashing hundreds of thousands of pounds on strikers...what the intercourse are people expecting? Where do you think this money magically appears from?

Unless you've lived under a rock for the last year, the shares of John Fenty were bought with personal cash.  That's money from the pockets of two individuals to get rid of Fenty from our club.  That isn't money that we've generated through sales or tickets, it's from their own pockets.

Investment in the ground, including the much derided Perspex screen in the Upper, from personal cash.  

Last summer we had a couple of windfalls from the sales of Ben Grist and Mattie Pollock, to the tune of just over half a million.  Unfortunately that has gone to paying off our good friend John's benign loans off.  Or did you expect the new owners to pay that from their personal cash too?   If we didn't have that bloody anchor weighing round our necks we may have been in a more comfortable position to splash cash on £250k strikers.  

Y'know, they're not getting everything right.  The poorer our form the more things become obvious.  Stuff that would be ignored when we're playing well is rankling everyone now.  Changing the crest, the CEO arguing on Twitter, the price of the food in the ground, it all chips away when the team are doing excrement.  Rightly or wrongly, they're in the position to be shot at.

But let's at least have some respect to not go down that route of demanding they spend their personal money on transfers and silly wages.   If that's the route people really want, the option is always there for them to make millions themselves and do that
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Why is the analysis of our predicament so binary? Spend within our current income or the current board spend personal money on transfers and silly wages? That's the only two choices? Really? All this tosh about squad building slowly to get promoted. At this level players are only signed for relatively short term deals, boosted by the loan market and any decent performers get handpicked by EFL clubs. These are the stark facts that are facing clubs like ours. to prevent our stay down here from being a long one, we need to find a hybrid solution whereby new share investment could be set aside for a playing budget fighting fund to get promoted. If we're struggling now to compete with the luxury of EFL solidarity parachute payments and 6k gates, how are we going to cope and compete without them along with falling attendances? There will always be other clubs giving it a real go season after season.

The solution isn't binary or black and white, a hybrid approach is needed. Wrexham apart, the difference between what the others are spending and us won't be as great as made out, but enough to create the current chasm in onfield performance. Grateful to the current owners for taking over but I still don't think there's enough cash invested to make a dent in this division, well not enough to make it a short term stay anyway. Do we want to hope that we can build a side on the cheap and all the aforementioned problems that come with it or could we hope that our current owners attract new investment on a non loan basis (share issue) in order for us to have our pick of players at this level? If we can't do that down here to get back in the EFL on 6k gates, then we're never going to get out of this hellhole..
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Quoted from acko338
EGM on Thursday afternoon may level.the salary playing field??

A couple of months ago, fans on here were laughing at cash splashed by Stockport and Wrexham with their positions then.

They're not laughing now as we are back down in 10th and they have both shot past us !!


I always felt it was inevitable they would both get it together eventually. Less predictable at the time was Town’s fall from grace, but even when we were 10+ points ahead of Wrexham I always felt it would be difficult to keep ahead of them over the course of the season.


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Perhaps they are preparing for a salary cap, just in case it is implemented next season.

Getting their spending done now while they can.


Now they've done their spending, I guess they'll be at the front of the queue to vote for it..
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Quoted from Les Brechin
Any idea if he's had clearance to play tonight yet?


He starts
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Will he celebrate if he scores tonight? Almost certainly yes I think.


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