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Bawmariner
January 23, 2022, 11:30pm
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Apologies if that’s the case but just think it’s too soon to judge the owners on their performance. Things don’t change overnight and other than spending unsustainable amounts of money I’m not sure what more they could have done so far. Hopefully a new training ground announcement soon will showcase some of the work they are doing.


Some people seem to be expecting miracles over night. Wrexham are a few points ahead of us despite throwing absolutely mental amounts of money at the playing budget this season. Players on 5k a week in the 5th division. The form of the team hasn't been good enough but we're against 4 teams of a similar stature to ourselves whoever been building squads for the last 3 or 4 years. I do think we are going to have to wait a year or 2 while the likes of Chesterfield, Wrexham and Stockport  sodomist off to League 2. We really have ended up in the league at the worst possible time. If we'd come down 2 seasons ago we'd have been against a Wrexham and Chesterfield in disarray struggling to stay up, a Stockport side who had spent 5 years in the 6th tier and be completing with teams like Macclesfield and Barrow for the title not a bankrolled well supported teams.
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The one fact we have all forgotten is that Hurst was employed by Fenty under the old regime, with no interview process, a direct employment by Fenty.

Hurst may be astute to agree with long term stability of the club by 1878 but his signings of short term contracts and loans players say other things in a different direction.

Money is always said to be available and has been for over 12 months so why hasn't any been spent on long term contracts, or keeping the likes of Towler and Hunt at the club. We need a manager with ambition as well as stability.

1878 need to have more vision when it comes to the manager and not endorse a Fenty man using Fenty mentality to maintain a team.


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The one fact we have all forgotten is that Hurst was employed by Fenty under the old regime, with no interview process, a direct employment by Fenty.

Hurst may be astute to agree with long term stability of the club by 1878 but his signings of short term contracts and loans players say other things in a different direction.

Money is always said to be available and has been for over 12 months so why hasn't any been spent on long term contracts, or keeping the likes of Towler and Hunt at the club. We need a manager with ambition as well as stability.

1878 need to have more vision when it comes to the manager and not endorse a Fenty man using Fenty mentality to maintain a team.


Players don’t want to commit, players being recalled by their parent club and going straight in to their squad? May be some of the cash is having to service other areas that need it to meet thresholds etc?

There as plethora of reasons, Hurst has ambition, the club now has a plan. That won’t just change everything over night though…


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This is why you can't take red crosses seriously........... someone posts the truth and the Fenty physcophants can't handle it


Are they supposed to be taken seriously??
I only red cross someone who moans about them because it makes me grin    

Bit of fun man, lighten up a bit.


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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Are they supposed to be taken seriously??
I only red cross someone who moans about them because it makes me grin    

Bit of fun man, lighten up a bit.


Just red crossed you, only in an ironic way mind 😉
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Some people seem to be expecting miracles over night. Wrexham are a few points ahead of us despite throwing absolutely mental amounts of money at the playing budget this season. Players on 5k a week in the 5th division. The form of the team hasn't been good enough but we're against 4 teams of a similar stature to ourselves whoever been building squads for the last 3 or 4 years. I do think we are going to have to wait a year or 2 while the likes of Chesterfield, Wrexham and Stockport  sodomist off to League 2. We really have ended up in the league at the worst possible time. If we'd come down 2 seasons ago we'd have been against a Wrexham and Chesterfield in disarray struggling to stay up, a Stockport side who had spent 5 years in the 6th tier and be completing with teams like Macclesfield and Barrow for the title not a bankrolled well supported teams.


From memory, we were 12 points ahead of Wrexham at one point, we’re now 6 behind. Our squad from that point has departed to all points of the compass and, with the possible exception of JMD, been replaced by players unwanted by anyone else.
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Try the poll again after our next win. Just saying  



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Not keen on constantly changing manager. Rarely turns out well

However this run over the last 3 months is worrying. It's not a blip.

I'm at a loss at how a team to that did so well over the first 10 games or so can so quickly look so poor.

The damning thing for me is that nothing is changing
Some performances have been decent. I don't buy the idea the players aren't trying. Halifax at home was good. But until we scored the late equaliser looked to be another groundhog Day.

Altrincham the same but for 2 moments of individual brilliance

We aren't creating many chances . Get into some promising situations but don't work the keeper enough.

Wasteful in front of goal

Don't seem to be using players to get the best out of them.

We're doing the same game after game. Hurst doesn't seem to have a plan B. Can't make effective in game changes either when things aren't working

We play a front 3 but the Centre Forward usually Taylor is too isolated. Wide players too wide and no support runs from deep. Taylor is often 20 yards from a teammate with his back to goal.

Same story against Bromley where we were up against 3 big Centre Half's. And our tactic , apart the opening minutes when we did get down the channels, was play high and long. Easy for them but we didn't change

If I felt there was a suitable manager out there I would pull the trigger.
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