Hurst Out

Quoted from gtfc_chris

After red crossing the comments that seem popular and vice versa I'm no doubt in a minority in thinking

I'm an avid PH fan and I don't think my opinion will be changed on the person because I simply like the guys pragmatism. That said, today has left me thinking that he's a few steps onto the tight rope in terms of his management of GTFC.

The break we had for Covid was his circuit breaker in terms of trying to break the form that went before it. The 1-1 against Halifax was a decent performance without fruit, we've then gone on to lose the return fixture, beat a very poor Altrincham team, perform well in one half against a play off chasing Bromley team and then fall apart and offer little to nothing in the second and ultimately lose it which is the headline of any game.

I'm desperate for PH to succeed given how much I like the guy but there reaches a point where loyalty becomes stretched and you have to question whether he's capable to get us where we want to be, and that's where I'm now at. As someone referenced earlier, the next 7 games are huge for him given that 5 of them should - on paper - see us take the points. Paper and reality are different things but the reality is the form is manager sacking worthy at many clubs and so if he can't manage 15 from 21 in the next 7 games then even the most ardent PH supporters such as myself are clutching at straws to defend him any further.

you echo my thoughts Chris

Quoted from Hagrid

Well i guarentee you we wont beat Wrexham on Tuesday

Wish I knew that before I spent £40 on tickets!!

I wouldn’t have expected to read all this angry, disproportionate t0ss this evening, but it is very difficult to repel the palpable reality. Losing twice to Bromley is poor. Really poor. Getting it wrong, tactically is really not something we should be tolerating, and the bare stats are not good are they. I like Paul. I like continuity. But I’m really disappointed and as cross as anyone with this latest result, placed in context. It’s not good enough, as we can all agree. What happens to change this is where the controversy is.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

After red crossing the comments that seem popular and vice versa I'm no doubt in a minority in thinking

I'm an avid PH fan and I don't think my opinion will be changed on the person because I simply like the guys pragmatism. That said, today has left me thinking that he's a few steps onto the tight rope in terms of his management of GTFC.

The break we had for Covid was his circuit breaker in terms of trying to break the form that went before it. The 1-1 against Halifax was a decent performance without fruit, we've then gone on to lose the return fixture, beat a very poor Altrincham team, perform well in one half against a play off chasing Bromley team and then fall apart and offer little to nothing in the second and ultimately lose it which is the headline of any game.

I'm desperate for PH to succeed given how much I like the guy but there reaches a point where loyalty becomes stretched and you have to question whether he's capable to get us where we want to be, and that's where I'm now at. As someone referenced earlier, the next 7 games are huge for him given that 5 of them should - on paper - see us take the points. Paper and reality are different things but the reality is the form is manager sacking worthy at many clubs and so if he can't manage 15 from 21 in the next 7 games then even the most ardent PH supporters such as myself are clutching at straws to defend him any further.

You’ll certainly be the minority on a “Hurst out” thread, but I don’t think the whole fan base is against him. There are many Hurst fans (like myself and yourself) whose faith is gradually being chipped away at, though.

I agree about the circuit breaker point. Since we started playing again we’ve beaten a team we should have beaten and twice performed well against Halifax, a team sat top/second recently in the table. Today I thought we came out the traps looking motivated and were all over Bromley at times. That second half was genuinely disappointing, though. It was like we ran out of steam.

I really don’t understand this “little Bromley” nonsense. They are fourth in the table, and a good team with a manager who might be in L1 next week. If we don’t respect the league we’re in, and the good teams in it, then we’ll never get out of it.

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

Absolutely deluded

Insightful thoughts, do you have capability to expand on this?

Quoted from kafunanapar140909

You’ll certainly be the minority on a “Hurst out” thread, but I don’t think the whole fan base is against him. There are many Hurst fans (like myself and yourself) whose faith is gradually being chipped away at, though.

I agree about the circuit breaker point. Since we started playing again we’ve beaten a team we should have beaten and twice performed well against Halifax, a team sat top/second recently in the table. Today I thought we came out the traps looking motivated and were all over Bromley at times. That second half was genuinely disappointing, though. It was like we ran out of steam.

I really don’t understand this “little Bromley” nonsense. They are fourth in the table, and a good team with a manager who might be in L1 next week. If we don’t respect the league we’re in, and the good teams in it, then we’ll never get out of it.

Someone who's seems to be avoiding any blame for this predicament we are in is the previous tool who allowed the club to spiral out of the league...



Yes folks our old friend John Shelton Fenty......the twit.

Quoted from Phil the cod

Someone who's seems to be avoiding any blame for this predicament we are in is the previous tool who allowed the club to spiral out of the league...



Yes folks our old friend John Shelton Fenty......the twit.

Couldn't agree with you more. When the new owners' first task is to provide training balls which are *actually round* you can appreciate what a massive task they have to turn this club around.

Oooo 4 pages in a manager out thread and not a single idea of a replacement.

I absolutely love the idea of a long term project. It is what I have been desperate for during the ghastly Fenty years when there was no project whatsoever bar keeping cost down.

However, a long term project is not the same as keeping the first team manager come what may because he "shares our values." Managers and players come and go all the time, and stability on the playing side is absolutely no yardstick for success otherwise everybody would do it.

I think the owners are going to have to sharpen up - football is not the same as other businesses and a long term plan regarding managers and players is fraught with danger. They can be poached, they can lose form they can move on so we will have to accept that if we just keep replacing average players with new average players coached by the same average manager we will not progress on the field. It will take some serious investment even in tier 5 to have a chance of promotion.

I blame Hurst entirely for today's fiasco; to be fair the owners have said more than once that "if Paul identifies a player he wants we will certainly look at it." So how come we seem to keep getting average loan players and have to rely on a young Hull lad playing out of position? Why isn't Hurst setting his sights higher? Tshimanga was mentioned in pre-season and Hurst reacted as if it was his own money. It is up to the owners to find the investment for such a signing if that is what he needs.

We need to get extra investment into the club to be used side by side with the revenue provided by the fans to create a team of our own players we can be proud of, and accept that the playing and managerial side will always be fluid and adapt accordingly, not give the manager the impression he has a job for life however many new but average players he keeps bringing in.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Bout time we started taking risks on players even if they don't fit the bill.

That's what he has been doing since he returned last season. Hence why we are mid table in the 5th tier.