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Some basic managerial mistakes, which the fans could see.

Clifton on, when Sousa or Wright needed to continue the attacking threat from the first half.  McAtee out of position and our forward threat weakened.  

Sousa and Wright came on too late.  A mess. Again. No direct pressure on Hurst to deliver.

Quoted from HerveJosse

We have signed a number 9 who hugs the touchlinr.
Is that an offence under the Trades Descrition Act?

He clearly isn't a number 9. You only have to look at his professional scoring record. Seeing last seasons video of his performances he spent most of it over on the left, and even then not looking overly impressive........

..........and we have signed him! Woohoo!

Quoted from ginnywings

Can anyone tell me why there was only 4 mins added on time? Their centre back was down for ages and then went down again later. Loads of substitutions too.

After all their time wasting, he couldn't even extend the playing time 30 seconds to take a corner.

Another knob jockey.

Sorry but that’s like someone currently in Number 10 worrying if someone has remembered to put the bins out.

Quoted from barralad

Yes...and for me Pearson and Waterfall were their usual solid selves in difficult circumstances.

would also 2nd that , why we don't gamble on waterfalls knockdowns i'll never know two tap ins today again if we gamble on him winning them

If we had started the season with 2 wins in 14 games, would the owners still be saying this is a long term project? I'm not anti Hurst, but the change in the team is unbelievable from champions to mid table. Anything less than a play off place is a failure. I'm voting with my feet now and saving my money.

Quoted from Germo66

If we had started the season with 2 wins in 14 games, would the owners still be saying this is a long term project? I'm not anti Hurst, but the change in the team is unbelievable from champions to mid table. Anything less than a play off place is a failure. I'm voting with my feet now and saving my money.

Well yes because they were saying that before we kicked a ball.

Don't buy into the 'long term project'? look at chesterfield, halifax, forest green etc etc etc. Someone mentioned the lower leagues where 'players chop and change so much', well yeah? exactly? How else do you build a top of the league squad?

Voting with your feet? what you mean is can't be arsed to stick through the rocky times so tally ho mate. In or out, like I said.

More than a bit perplexed tonight.
For the first 30 minutes we were as good as at any time since this bad run began (bar the last 20 minutes at home to Halifax). In truth a one goal advantage was poor given the number of balls crossed from both wings (especially JM-D). The other thing that surprised me was the number of shots we had.
They score-very much against the run of play- and almost entirely due to one of our most senior players p1ssing about in his own box. (I'd like to see it on t.v. because there was more than a hint of offside) I'd expect the goal to give them a boost but from our point of view it seemed like a pin puncturing the balloon of our confidence. From being outplayed Bromley might have thought themselves unlucky to go in at H-T level (decent save from Crocombe at his near post).
It seems JM-D was injured but I think Hurst needed to strengthen midfield where because of our post-equaliser malaise, Bromley were grabbing midfield by the scruff of the neck. At the time I and the people around me thought that the appearance of the attack minded Clifton was a good move.
The second half was monumentally disappointing-too many playing as individuals rather than a team-especially on the attacking side of things. Abrahams looked knackered-unsurprisingly. This thread is peppered with comments about why Hurst felt the need to start the lad.  (I feel there would have been the exact opposite reaction had Hurst not played him had we still lost but heigh-ho) Yes he was rusty but showed enough desire and skill to suggest that once he gets a few games under his belt he will make a decent fist of it. I was right behind his shot that nearly cut their number six in half and I'm convinced it was goal bound.
Our much derided "shape" was well and truly lost and it was no surprise when we finally cracked-disappointingly from a set piece.
Once they were in front they, with some help from the referee who seemingly couldn't tell the time, set about protecting what they'd got. Should Wright/Sousa have been on earlier? Probably, but neither contributed very much to the cause when, particularly Wright, had done so v Halifax.
Not entirely sure where we go from here but it is unfortunate that the new players will get an away baptism by fire in the coming games. Maybe they need to receive more support on the pitch from the seniors than they seemed to today.

Quoted from fishcake63

would also 2nd that , why we don't gamble on waterfalls knockdowns i'll never know two tap ins today again if we gamble on him winning them

It’s the point I made last week about the difference between having Taylor, a quality player outside the box, and a real striker who comes to life in the box. In the first half there were at least three balls knocked down into the six yard box and not only did we not get on the end of it nobody was even trying to get on the end of it. There was a cross from the left first half that Taylor didn’t even attempt to attack even though he was already in there waiting. Second half two or three crosses nobody again attacking the ball and as others have said two saves pushed the ball out into the six yard box with nobody looking interested in finishing it off.

When they crossed the ball they had at least three or four players in the box whereas we were lucky if we had two, with our midfield players absolutely nowhere in the picture. I commented last week on Taylor’s inability to get on the end of crosses and that was typified today.

Although we played well until we scored I thought Hurst had tried to accommodate McAteer so that he could play Abrahams. He was clearly out of position and whilst he did ok he was always too deep to influence the play in and around the box where he is most dangerous. Agree with the general consensus that the half time substitution was a clear mistake and if you do decide to make that change why didn’t they play in their normal position of Fox on the right and Clifton on the left? I’m not a Clifton fan and whilst he had that great volley, for me, he offers just energy and runs around with no end product. If the new signing is not capable of ousting him from midfield he’s not worth signing.

They had three at the back and second half their two wide players had the freedom of the park but Hurst did nothing to address this. Introducing Sousa and Wright might have driven them back and given us a better platform to attack as once Abrahams went through the centre he was a complete waste of time.

A very bad day for PH which really makes you question his suitability for the managers job.

Quoted from Germo66

If we had started the season with 2 wins in 14 games, would the owners still be saying this is a long term project? I'm not anti Hurst, but the change in the team is unbelievable from champions to mid table. Anything less than a play off place is a failure. I'm voting with my feet now and saving my money.

As an STH like 3000 others I am already invested in the remaining home games but the all round incompetence of that second half made up my mind about Wrexham on Tuesday. Had it all planned last night, walking in N.Wales, B and B in Llangollen, watch game at Wrexham then drive back to Sheffield on quiet roads.

Hurst has trampled on my optimism since the Cleethorpes pre season game with his negativity. I enjoy the 'local' Notts County game but ,for me, I will hold on to my £150.

Complete debacle! A game where the manager and the players should be embarrassed. I’m not sure I can add anything new to what’s already been posted above.

What I have in the good will account towards Hurst is being exhausted and is currently running in red, an odd selection but seemed to work, a terrible substitution looking at the talent on the bench and failure to act when it was clear it wasn’t working.

The players need to hold themselves to account, lack of energy, tempo and drive coupled with some poor passing, decision making and on a couple of occasions greed in front of goal.

Clearly we let a lot of kids in for free which on days like these when the away support is so p1ss poor us the right thing to do, regardless of whether or not you paid today every Town supporter deserves better!

As for Bromley they’re an alright team that take sh1thousery to a completely new level and are very easy to dislike they’re behaviour after their 1st goal was completely out of order.