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My view on goalkeeping is you do not drop your keeper after just one mistake.
We do not need 3 keepers on the books as we never have one on the bench on match days.
If Battersby is as good as they say we have 3 with the same ability so i expect one to leave before too long.maybe we could swap a keeper for a striker.🤑
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Neither of them look up to it..? Really?
“At the moment” as mentioned above. If I’m honest I was making a bit of a smart @rse comment rather than anything else. For a non league club like ours I think the fact that we have a decent back up is a good thing. I’ve probably seen 75% of the games this season and to be fair I can’t remember either of ours being as busy as the Halifax keeper was on Monday.
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I have a lot of time for James McKeown, without attempting to do the maths he’s probably the player I’ve seen play for Town more than any other (the original Macca would be close but my first game only came in 1992), so I think you naturally build up a degree of affection for the bloke.
But goalkeeping’s a funny position, and I think he’s had a touch of the ‘Joe Hart’s’ since he first got dropped for Dean Henderson, and he’s never been able to recover his confidence or form ever since. He’s not the same player he was five or six years ago for me, and whilst goalkeepers will indeed always make mistakes, they’ve become more frequent.
I can’t help but think that it’s probably best for him and us that he leaves at the end of the season, though where he goes from here I’m not so sure. Number two at a league club wouldn’t surprise me, though I suspect he has a fairly large pay cut heading his way.
That’s not me castigating him - he’s been a marvellous and memorable servant to the club over the course of the last decade and a bit. I’m just saying it how I see it.
The game changes over time and I would say the role of a goalkeeper has changed quite a bit over the last 10 years. Whilst their primary job is to keep the ball out of the net, they don't just deal with back passes under no pressure now. Even at non-league level keepers are passed the ball under immense pressure and expected to deal with it. The distribution of a keeper seems to be something that has come on leaps and bounds too with Jordan Pickford and Ederson being 2 notable examples but this is filtering down the leagues. I think McKeown has great reflexes and is a good shot stopper but his distribution has always been a weakness in his game.
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“At the moment” as mentioned above.
If I’m honest I was making a bit of a smart @rse comment rather than anything else. For a non league club like ours I think the fact that we have a decent back up is a good thing.
I’ve probably seen 75% of the games this season and to be fair I can’t remember either of ours being as busy as the Halifax keeper was on Monday.
Backtracking a little bit?
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Backtracking a little bit?
Nah ….. just thought I’d clarify what was a bit of a throwaway line to all of the pedants, experts and wannabe football writers on this board who pick at any post making it something it’s not 😉
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The game changes over time and I would say the role of a goalkeeper has changed quite a bit over the last 10 years. Whilst their primary job is to keep the ball out of the net, they don't just deal with back passes under no pressure now. Even at non-league level keepers are passed the ball under immense pressure and expected to deal with it.
The distribution of a keeper seems to be something that has come on leaps and bounds too with Jordan Pickford and Ederson being 2 notable examples but this is filtering down the leagues.
I think McKeown has great reflexes and is a good shot stopper but his distribution has always been a weakness in his game.
I actually think his inability to command his six yard box and often being rooted to his line is a bigger weakness.
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Backtracking a little bit?
Nah ….. just thought I’d clarify what was a bit of a throwaway line to all of the pedants, experts and wannabe football writers on this board who pick at any post making it something it’s not 😉
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Makes me laugh when people dismiss and castigate our keepers. So unrealistic. At this level, we have two great goalies. Macca is proven, and then some. Not flawless or without some aspects of his game that are weaker than others, but he’ll win us more points than he loses us
That old chestnut is it
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I actually think his inability to command his six yard box and often being rooted to his line is a bigger weakness.
People always used to say that about Danny Coyne too but keepers have been expected to come collect crosses for as long as I can remember. In terms of the game changing, more is made of goalkeepers having good feet and a good range of distribution these days.
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People always used to say that about Danny Coyne too but keepers have been expected to come collect crosses for as long as I can remember. In terms of the game changing, more is made of goalkeepers having good feet and a good range of distribution these days.
I would rather my keeper punch and collect crosses effectively than dink a 30 yard pass to a full back. Maybe I am just old fashioned.
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