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1200.

An absolute flipping disgrace. West Yorkshire Police hang your heads in shame.
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Quoted from Hagrid
1200.

An absolute flipping disgrace. West Yorkshire Police hang your heads in shame.


Has that been communicated as official yet H??
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Has that been communicated as official yet H??


Yes Confirmed by club on twitter mate

Saying its a joint decision between Council WYP and Halifax Town
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Complete urine take … looks like west York’s police have made this decision why would Halifax turn down a extra 3/4 thousand paying customers
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Only on sale to season ticket holders, I am 1878 member so might not even be able to get a ticket!



If any season ticket holders who know they can not make it, if you could get a ticket anyway for me, that would be much appreciated! I will pay Obviously Don't mind paying over face value either and I will also owe you a pint!
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Think their inept policing of the Wrexham game recently is to blame for this. Can't believe Halifax actually want to chuck so much money away?
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We should boycott this game intercourse em enough is  enough
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This decision is probably gonna cost Halifax at least £20k in gate receipts, probably more. Hope they're as unhappy with West Yorkshire Police's total incompetence as we are.


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Seriously, what’s the point of scheduling these ‘local’ festive double headers (which are presumably designed to maximise attendances) if you’re then going to prevent thousands who want to attend from doing so as a direct result? The kick-off has already been moved to 12:30 ffs.

It’s totally counter-intuitive and discriminative of regular, match going fans. If pockets of individuals intend to travel with the intent of causing disorder then deal with them and ban them accordingly - don’t assume I want to neck 16 pints and start windmilling anyone with a Yorkshire accent just because I support Grimsby Town.

One of the reasons I’ve always bought a season ticket, even when things have been really shít, is access to away tickets. 1,200 means that about 60% of season ticket holders will miss out on our closest away game of the season, and our only one within 90 miles. And that’s before we consider anyone else who might legitimately want to go.

This is a grossly unfair, highly prejudiced and ultimately nonsensical decision. Leeds and Manchester United have also have their fair share of banning orders and arrests under their belts. Will West Yorkshire police be restricting United to 1,200 tickets when they play there in February, I wonder? I’d like to see them try.

Honestly, I’ve had enough of this now. I don’t see this routinely happening to other clubs in other divisions, and whilst I obviously haven’t been privy to the conversation between the club and the police, I’d really like to see our representatives do more to challenge this and at the very least seek a detailed explanation and rationale (so we can all see for ourselves what a fair and reasonable decision it is after all).

Sick to the fùcking back teeth of shít like this. Absolute shysters.


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November 28, 2021, 9:06pm
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Evening guys Halifax fan here. Just thought I'd come on and provide some context as to why this has happened. Which I can assure you has angered everyone at Halifax from the fans to the club who will now miss out on a fair amount of revenue.

Some of you may already be aware but after our Wrexham game last Tuesday night a group of Wrexham fans were set upon by a group of people who I prefer not to call fans which resulting in a 15 year old boy suffering a broken jaw. I'm not sure if he's out of hospital or not. 99% of our fans are disgusted that this happened and we have no issues at the majority of our home games.

I'm not sure these restrictions would have happened if that incident had not occurred. What's baffling to me is we can have as many as we want there but your restricted. I'm not sure who's supposed to be getting punished here us or you cause it feels like you.
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November 28, 2021, 9:25pm
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I’m as gutted as you guys, and I’m a Halifax fan. What could have been 5-6000 crowd for us at 3pm, has turned into 3000 at 12:30pm. West Yorkshire Police and Calderdale council are a disgrace. We could easily give you 3-4000 tickets. Don’t even agree with it being all ticket, but that being as it may, why is it only 1200 tickets! You bought 1600 last time out and you were baying for Hursts blood. Just makes no sense to me.
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Utter, utter disgrace!...I'm raging😡😡
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Ridiculous decision. Expect it to be completely counter productive with 100’s of Town fans likely to buy for the home end.
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Ridiculous decision. Expect it to be completely counter productive with 100’s of Town fans likely to buy for the home end.


Yep totally agree and wouldn’t blame you. This going to bite the council and police in the bottom. Our club is not versed on all ticket games As our capacity is never close to being reached. We employ next to no non football staff and one of the smaller playing budgets.  Would have been easier to keep it to 3pm, pay on gate and keep either home or away fans in ground for 15mins after game at worst.
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November 28, 2021, 9:50pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if another reason was room for you all. 1,200 wrexham fans came last Tuesday and there stand was full to bursting.

The terrace you had last time is either condemned or they are extremely reluctant to use it for some reason.
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Yep totally agree and wouldn’t blame you. This going to bite the council and police in the bottom. Our club is not versed on all ticket games As our capacity is never close to being reached. We employ next to no non football staff and one of the smaller playing budgets.  Would have been easier to keep it to 3pm, pay on gate and keep either home or away fans in ground for 15mins after game at worst.


Your talking common sense here. It doesn't apply to the police or councils who want to complicate matters and then blame all and sundry when it goes wrong.



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Evening guys Halifax fan here. Just thought I'd come on and provide some context as to why this has happened. Which I can assure you has angered everyone at Halifax from the fans to the club who will now miss out on a fair amount of revenue.

Some of you may already be aware but after our Wrexham game last Tuesday night a group of Wrexham fans were set upon by a group of people who I prefer not to call fans which resulting in a 15 year old boy suffering a broken jaw. I'm not sure if he's out of hospital or not. 99% of our fans are disgusted that this happened and we have no issues at the majority of our home games.

I'm not sure these restrictions would have happened if that incident had not occurred. What's baffling to me is we can have as many as we want there but your restricted. I'm not sure who's supposed to be getting punished here us or you cause it feels like you.


Interesting that the only real bother I’ve seen at BP, especially this season was Wrexham…are they seeing their away allocations being limited?


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If only there was a supporters’ organisation to lobby on behalf of the fans.


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Interesting that the only real bother I’ve seen at BP, especially this season was Wrexham…are they seeing their away allocations being limited?


As far as I'm aware the Wrexham fans in question were behaving fine and just making their way back to the car to go home. Until they were set upon by a group of Halifax thugs.

But because you'd be bringing a similar following I think they are bricking it thinking it might happen again. I wouldnt be surprised if you were hearded like sheep for your entire duration in the town to avoid any incidents

Takes all the fun out if it as I know you'd have sold more than your being given but a small minority spoil it for everyone
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Well no way am I missing this game, I’m not a season ticket holder but been going to all the home games with my family and another as we have caught the bug again and loving it.
Halifax away is a game we have all been looking forward to going to on Boxing Day and I know we have no chance of getting tickets now so 100% we will all be there in the home end simple as that.
1200 tickets what a joke!!!
They can try and stop more Grimsby fans going with a silly stunt like this but it ain’t going to happen.
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Home end it is then...

First the early kick off decision on a boxing day match, then this absurd limiting of tickets for no apparent reason. Ridiculous.
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There’s a lot of guilty parties in this decision - police forces, authorities, former club staff misrepresenting the fanbase to those previously mentioned - but the NL fixture planning has to burden some of the blame as well. This was always going to be well attended from our POV but also putting it on Boxing Day would always add more to the number of those wanting to go.
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Home end it is then...

First the early kick off decision on a boxing day match, then this absurd limiting of tickets for no apparent reason. Ridiculous.


Even away fans going in the home end will be tough.

Their ticket sales end on 12th December, no more sales after that date and purchasing or collecting tickets need to provide proof of address.

It really does stink
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There’s a lot of guilty parties in this decision - police forces, authorities, former club staff misrepresenting the fanbase to those previously mentioned - but the NL fixture planning has to burden some of the blame as well. This was always going to be well attended from our POV but also putting it on Boxing Day would always add more to the number of those wanting to go.


Errr, no. Boxing Day is traditionally for local matches and Halifax is one of the most local in the league, so it looks like the NL fixture setters got it right. It’s just the local officials that got it wrong.

Never mind the football club losing out, the Halifax economy loses out.


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This is the same police force that deal week in week out with Bradford , Huddersfield and Leeds United and all the trouble that goes hand in hand with such high profile fixtures?

We are Grimsby in 2021 not Millwall in 1981, these daft yorkies have a real problem with us for some reason.

Ah well Market Rasen it is.
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November 29, 2021, 4:48am
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Yes Confirmed by club on twitter mate

Saying its a joint decision between Council WYP and Halifax Town


When did a council get to decide who can attend football games ?
And I’d like to know their reasons for restricting ticket sales
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If Halifax can’t handle 2-3000 Grimsby fans in their ground then they shouldn’t be allowed in the league
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Feel sorry for people who have already booked on the coach firm that was advertising on here and leaving flyers on cars a few weeks ago.
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I bet there's already plans in place for pay on the gate when hundreds of ticketless fans turn up.
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I have got friend in Holmefirth
They are getting me 4 tickets in the home end
Problem solved
And by the way we are not trouble makers just a family who follow Town
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Even away fans going in the home end will be tough.

Their ticket sales end on 12th December, no more sales after that date and purchasing or collecting tickets need to provide proof of address.

It really does stink


That’s not difficult to sort out at all, if u want tickets people will get them sorted no problem.
All what’s happened here is just making the policing for game that whole lot harder for them now..
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Would advise anyone looking to buy home tickets online to do so under a new email address, or definitely one you haven’t used with GTFC before.

Our ticket office share previous sales history with opposition clubs, so you’ll probably get your order cancelled like loads did for Scunny.
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There’s a lot of guilty parties in this decision - police forces, authorities, former club staff misrepresenting the fanbase to those previously mentioned - but the NL fixture planning has to burden some of the blame as well. This was always going to be well attended from our POV but also putting it on Boxing Day would always add more to the number of those wanting to go.


Don't forget the small number of our fans that insist on getting drunk and causing trouble, they are the ones that ruin it for the majority.

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I have got friend in Holmefirth
They are getting me 4 tickets in the home end
Problem solved
And by the way we are not trouble makers just a family who follow Town
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Did Foggy, Compo or Clegg book them for you?


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I thought Boxing Day games at this level where supposed to be accessible and to support boosting revenue.

Halifax are my not so dark horses for promotion what are the local jobsworths going to do if they get into a proper league?

Tin Pot!!!


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I thought Boxing Day games at this level where supposed to be accessible and to support boosting revenue.

Halifax are my not so dark horses for promotion what are the local jobsworths going to do if they get into a proper league?

Tin Pot!!!


Agreed and has been mentioned on our forum. We are just as disgusted as you lot. We’ve been looking forward to this game for ages.
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November 29, 2021, 9:49am

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Whenever it’s a problem getting a ticket there is always loads of Town fans in the home end.
Also remember that someone had a load of moody tickets printed for the terrace at Burton that day.

The police will cause their own chaos here.
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Agreed and has been mentioned on our forum. We are just as disgusted as you lot. We’ve been looking forward to this game for ages.


By the way I wasn't referring to you guys as "Tin Pot" mate it's the pen pushers that make me angry on this.


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November 29, 2021, 9:53am

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Would advise anyone looking to buy home tickets online to do so under a new email address, or definitely one you haven’t used with GTFC before.

Our ticket office share previous sales history with opposition clubs, so you’ll probably get your order cancelled like loads did for Scunny.


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By the way I wasn't referring to you guys as "Tin Pot" mate it's the pen pushers that make me angry on this.


Nah it’s all good. We were genuinely hoping for 5-6000 for this game. Can imagine it being much more than 3000 now.
Hopefully you don’t reciprocate it and limit our numbers.
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Nah it’s all good. We were genuinely hoping for 5-6000 for this game. Can imagine it being much more than 3000 now.
Hopefully you don’t reciprocate it and limit our numbers.


id hope not, be a bit mammary for tat!
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Nah it’s all good. We were genuinely hoping for 5-6000 for this game. Can imagine it being much more than 3000 now.
Hopefully you don’t reciprocate it and limit our numbers.


I don't think we will, and our Supporter Liason Officer has responded to the (very few, isolated) calls on Twitter to do so, basically saying "why would we do that to Halifax fans when we know how much it affects us" - there is widespread recognition that this isn't the choice of Halifax football club.

I can't see Humberside police, for all their faults, being such bottlejobs for return fixture tbh. Chesterfield game is a 3pm kick off (dunno about allocations yet tho) as was Notts County.
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Just out of interest are any of the West Yorkshire clubs at home that day, if so are the away followings at those games restricted.
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Fair play to Kristine, the new Stadium Manager & the fella at Humberside Police as their improved relationship seems to be working well. No matches moved at home, ticketing all fine and Osmond open as & when needed without any major issues.

Think this one is WYP cacking themselves at the thought of not being able to bully & assault every town fan going. Set of shítehouses.

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Just out of interest are any of the West Yorkshire clubs at home that day, if so are the away followings at those games restricted.


Huddersfield at home to Blackpool, Bradford at home to Harrogate, Leeds are away to Liverpool. This has also been mentioned on our forum.

Debbie Cook? Your chief executive says this is all down to West Yorkshire police! I hope we sue them from loss of business!
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Huddersfield at home to Blackpool, Bradford at home to Harrogate, Leeds are away to Liverpool. This has also been mentioned on our forum.

Debbie Cook? Your chief executive says this is all down to West Yorkshire police! I hope we sue them from loss of business!


How many does that large standing away terrace behind one goal hold. Must be at least 3k I'd have thought. Must be one of the largest terraces in our league.


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How many does that large standing away terrace behind one goal hold. Must be at least 3k I'd have thought. Must be one of the largest terraces in our league.


At the home end I’m sure it’s about 3200. As for the “away “ terrace. It’s never really been revealed, think a lack of toilets back on the day limited it. To me for safety purposes we could easily give you the skircoat (1200 seats) and half that terrace which would easily amount to around 2500-3000 in total. Stick some large black sheets down middle and their would be a substantial barrier between home and away fans.

If they opened all of that terrace then yes around 4000 tickets would have been available.
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Huddersfield at home to Blackpool, Bradford at home to Harrogate, Leeds are away to Liverpool. This has also been mentioned on our forum.

Debbie Cook? Your chief executive says this is all down to West Yorkshire police! I hope we sue them from loss of business!


Local businesses will lose out as well. All that food and drink that won't get consumed.


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I assume Stoke have been allocated 4000+ at Barnsley for their 3pm by neighbouring South Yorkshire police. Stoke fans are angels after all…

Similarly Sheffield United’s impeccably behaved fans will be able to travel in thousands to PNE…
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I’d like to hear West Yorkshire polices reasons for this ?

Boxing Day football has been a tradition for over a hundred years in England so they can’t hide behind the excuse that it’s a bank holiday , The Notting Hill carnival is on a bank holiday every year with lots of stabbings murders and robberies but I’ve never seen the police suggest that be moved or numbers restricted  

I don’t believe Halifax have fought too hard to contest this either , all clubs in this league know that we’ll fill out allocation if I games played on a Saturday , Tuesday or at 11 in the morning on a Sunday .
I reckon it’s time our club start sending all our ticket allocation back if other clubs continue to take the urine .
Don’t let them get a single penny out of our fans
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The way I see it is that it will not matter if we take 500 or 5,000 there are only a few idiots who will drink too much and cause trouble. Why can't WYP use their "Intelligence" and just deal with the few and let the rest of use attend a football match.


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Seriously, what’s the point of scheduling these ‘local’ festive double headers (which are presumably designed to maximise attendances) if you’re then going to prevent thousands who want to attend from doing so as a direct result? The kick-off has already been moved to 12:30 ffs.

It’s totally counter-intuitive and discriminative of regular, match going fans. If pockets of individuals intend to travel with the intent of causing disorder then deal with them and ban them accordingly - don’t assume I want to neck 16 pints and start windmilling anyone with a Yorkshire accent just because I support Grimsby Town.

One of the reasons I’ve always bought a season ticket, even when things have been really shít, is access to away tickets. 1,200 means that about 60% of season ticket holders will miss out on our closest away game of the season, and our only one within 90 miles. And that’s before we consider anyone else who might legitimately want to go.

This is a grossly unfair, highly prejudiced and ultimately nonsensical decision. Leeds and Manchester United have also have their fair share of banning orders and arrests under their belts. Will West Yorkshire police be restricting United to 1,200 tickets when they play there in February, I wonder? I’d like to see them try.

Honestly, I’ve had enough of this now. I don’t see this routinely happening to other clubs in other divisions, and whilst I obviously haven’t been privy to the conversation between the club and the police, I’d really like to see our representatives do more to challenge this and at the very least seek a detailed explanation and rationale (so we can all see for ourselves what a fair and reasonable decision it is after all).

Sick to the fùcking back teeth of shít like this. Absolute shysters.


Our SLO has said on Twitter that she had no involvement yet we’d already agreed to rearrange the game for another date and another time so we must have been involved somewhere , like I said in another post we should tell them it’s all or nothing now , either give us the full allocation or we don’t want any tickets.
If the police and the club can’t hold a crowd  that would still be under half the capacity they shouldn’t be in their jobs
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Would advise anyone looking to buy home tickets online to do so under a new email address, or definitely one you haven’t used with GTFC before.

Our ticket office share previous sales history with opposition clubs, so you’ll probably get your order cancelled like loads did for Scunny.


Has our club got any right to share personal details with 3rd parties ?
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Has our club got any right to share personal details with 3rd parties ?


I asked the question when Scunny took my tickets back
& refunded my order. Can’t remember the response but think there’s something in the Ts & Cs about data sharing, think it also covers them sharing info with the police.

Probably someone with some knowledge on data protection should have a look into it.
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Two of my grown up kids who I havent seen since 2019 might be able to get to that game, they were both born in Halifax but are massive Town fans. We were all going as the first partial family event since covid started and now WYCP and Halifax Town have put paid to that. Even as a season ticket holder I won't be able to get tickets simply because of this pathetic stance. I am actually angry. 14000 capacity, 3334 at the last game. What is happening to this country? F*ckin stupid beyond belief.
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Our SLO has said on Twitter that she had no involvement yet we’d already agreed to rearrange the game for another date and another time so we must have been involved somewhere , like I said in another post we should tell them it’s all or nothing now , either give us the full allocation or we don’t want any tickets.
If the police and the club can’t hold a crowd  that would still be under half the capacity they shouldn’t be in their jobs


Nope - I said we went back and asked for more than 1200 and that was declined.

Think you’re getting the home and away fixture mixed up. This was always Boxing Day 12.30pm, the home fixture has been pushed back a day. That’s a TV move so there is no agreement, we are told and that’s that.



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Two of my grown up kids who I havent seen since 2019 might be able to get to that game, they were both born in Halifax but are massive Town fans. We were all going as the first partial family event since covid started and now WYCP and Halifax Town have put paid to that. Even as a season ticket holder I won't be able to get tickets simply because of this pathetic stance. I am actually angry. 14000 capacity, 3334 at the last game. What is happening to this country? F*ckin stupid beyond belief.


I’m the same that it’ll be the only game I’ll be back in the UK for this season that I’ve been looking forward to since the fixtures came out
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Daughter at Uni in Leeds will be having a delivery of tickets for the home end.


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I asked the question when Scunny took my tickets back
& refunded my order. Can’t remember the response but think there’s something in the Ts & Cs about data sharing, think it also covers them sharing info with the police.

Probably someone with some knowledge on data protection should have a look into it.


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I can now understand why West Yorkshire police are limiting our numbers now, Bradford at home to Harrogate, this fixture has always had a history, well last season,as that’s when they first played each other, the Harrogate ultras have terrible reputation for causing trouble, why only last week one of them dropped his cucumber sandwich in Auntie Betties tea room.
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I asked the question when Scunny took my tickets back
& refunded my order. Can’t remember the response but think there’s something in the Ts & Cs about data sharing, think it also covers them sharing info with the police.

Probably someone with some knowledge on data protection should have a look into it.

Scunthorpe did the same with me, by all accounts they're allowed to share intelligence by the way of databases.
I simply got my sister to pick up a shedload.
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So this decision has been made without no explanation and that’s that is it?
As far as I’m aware Grimsby fans have been a credit to the club home and away all season, am I missing something that has happened this season to warrant this move on reducing our tickets?
Is our name just so badly tarnished now that we will just have to put up with this and treated like we are a bunch of hooligans.
How come all these other games locally Policed in Yorkshire have no restrictions on tickets..
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The attendance and kickoff time is the absolute worst case scenario that could have been reasonably forced upon our fans.

These are the sort of issues I'd like to see the trust or SLO be more vocal about, and by vocal I don't mean be a nodding lapdog with a generic statement that they did everything they could.

I'd be interested in the specific arguments made for and against increased attendance etc with a bit of deal, otherwise its just hot air from both parties IMO.
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The attendance and kickoff time is the absolute worst case scenario that could have been reasonably forced upon our fans.

These are the sort of issues I'd like to see the trust or SLO be more vocal about, and by vocal I don't mean be a nodding lapdog with a generic statement that they did everything they could.

I'd be interested in the specific arguments made for and against increased attendance etc with a bit of deal, otherwise its just hot air from both parties IMO.


You do know that’s exactly what they do? Challenge, plead our case.

Instead of turning on the club or trust and the likes of Kristine, why not focus your attention on the police, the footballing authorities and anyone else that seemingly takes pleasure in marginalising football fans based on some data from 35 years.

The travesty here is plenty will miss out, hope and away fans dip out and Halifax as a club miss out, nobody wins other than the hundreds of extra bobbies that will no doubt still be drafted in…


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The Notting Hill carnival is on a bank holiday every year with lots of stabbings murders and robberies but I’ve never seen the police suggest that be moved or numbers restricted  


WHAT?! I've played there loads of times and never seen any violence. There have been a few, very few, murders, over a  60 year period, but there are 1m. people gathering in an enclosed space, there's always potential for one or two nutcases.
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I really think this is a most unwise decision by WYP.  As Halifax is not too far away, many Town supporters have family and friends around West Yorkshire and it’s inevitable that lots and lots of home stand tickets end up in Grimsby hands.  When Town score it will result in Grimsby fans celebrating naturally and if Halifax fans react it could end badly.
Given the numbers travelling long distances to support the Mariners, I really can’t see people not going when our ticket allocation is sold out.
I would urge both clubs, Halifax council and WYP have further discussions.
The vast majority of football fans do not cause trouble but when trouble starts in the stands by the minority, it rarely ends well.
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Totally and utterly baffled beyond belief for what is becoming a faff and constant hassle to watch our club this season in this complete shambles of a league and police state we live in - completely pathetic

I would love to see us show up in our thousands in Halifax but not go in obviously - but I know yes that would cause utter chaos but the best thing we should do is completely boycott these clubs who are treating us like this - I dunno really I’m just fed up with it all and the joke of it - stupid country


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Don’t think it’s the club’s decision (Halifax) Timsky. It’s the polizei. Must share “intelligence”* with Derbyshire police. Remember when they tweeted that Town fans had wrecked a pub in Chesterfield and the landlord tweeted back “no they haven’t, they’ve been as good as gold”.

* one brain cell between them.

It really is about time this sort of thing was stopped. The police can cope with bigger clubs. I know we’ve got some knobheads but surely not as many as some of the Championship and Premiership clubs. Maybe it should be taken up with NELincs’ MPs. (Yeah I know, but that’s what they’re there for and Vickers is supposed to be a Town fan).


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Quoted from Mariner Timsky
Totally and utterly baffled beyond belief for what is becoming a faff and constant hassle to watch our club this season in this complete shambles of a league and police state we live in - completely pathetic

I would love to see us show up in our thousands in Halifax but not go in obviously - but I know yes that would cause utter chaos but the best thing we should do is completely boycott these clubs who are treating us like this - I dunno really I’m just fed up with it all and the joke of it - stupid country


Nothing to do with us pal, we'd be daft to want to restrict numbers of away fans travelling. Purely the council and WYP getting together and trying to come up with the best way to take the fun out of a festive football match. Making sure they can clock out quickly after the game with minimal paperwork.

Our chairman will be seething at this decision. However there is not really a right lot we can say or do to change the situation.
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With regards to data Protection and sharing of info you can ask who your data will be shared with and how it’s used, how long it’s kept for and more interestingly profiling. Where personal data is held GDPR (general data protection regulation) guidelines HAVE to be followed. The DPA (data protection act) and GDPR we’re both updated in 2018 so specifics may be a bit blurry under the details but when it comes to policing, am thinking that this could actually come into play

‘ Personal data collected must not be processed in a manner that is incompatible with the purpose for which it was originally collected ‘

So, therefore if you’ve bought a town onesie or a ‘I love The board’ pencil case, I don’t think this can be used for ticket purchases. *

Unfortunately this side of GDPR isn’t my domain (we work on the fraudulent side of falsifying information and T&C’s) but I can certainly ask the question to those more knowledgeable in this

*Grey area as the tickets and merchandise are both sold from the club shop I presume


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Could someone at least give us some justification for this decision and back it up. Does our arrest data suggest that we should be treated differently? Is there data that supports early kick offs? Is it just a feeling that we were a bit lively the last time we played there? Someone must have been in a meeting where this was communicated by WYP. The info needs passing on.
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Get tickets. Turn up. Support our club. Behave.
Simple.
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Quoted from lukeo
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That happens 99% of the time and we’re still treated like criminals
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I remember last time in the conference days we played Telford away and it was actually the first time we had ever played them and the police presence that day was absolutely massive, way OTT and I actually asked one of the officers why there's so many police and he replied to me "there was trouble at Telford V Grimsby last year" when I told him that makes no sense as this is the first time we have ever played against each other he just said "oh"
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Could someone at least give us some justification for this decision and back it up. Does our arrest data suggest that we should be treated differently? Is there data that supports early kick offs? Is it just a feeling that we were a bit lively the last time we played there? Someone must have been in a meeting where this was communicated by WYP. The info needs passing on.


The research in to moving KO’s and all that nonsense is flimsy at best and would never stand up to any real scrutiny. It’s agenda driven, nothing more.

Moving the KO is probably more dangerous, it will mean that potentially folk still unknowingly over the limit will drive, you’ll have an additional 1000 folk ambling around a town centre with few places to go, and in this case, a football club missing out on some valuable income, based on what? Absolutely zero evidence that anything will happen.

There’s more chance of Blair admitting Dr David Kelly was killed than the police forces of this country admitting they do this to simply hinder and marginalise football fans with little evidence…

Manure v Leeds was a dinner time KO, significant arrests and various trouble…early KO. Wrexham v Grimsby, evening KO, small mob causing bother…

The whole thing is a nonsense to just screw folk over.


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Cant remember the year late 80's early 90's Halifax V Grimsby we had more fans in the ground than the home supporters which was amazing to see, the atmosphere was unbelievable sadly i don't remember the result but I do remember two pubs getting wrecked, fans all covered in blood  and a police van being turned over now i appreciate it was a long time ago and football has changed a bit since those dark days but West Yorkshire Police will have a long memory


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Cant remember the year late 80's early 90's Halifax V Grimsby we had more fans in the ground than the home supporters which was amazing to see, the atmosphere was unbelievable sadly i don't remember the result but I do remember two pubs getting wrecked, fans all covered in blood  and a police van being turned over now i appreciate it was a long time ago and football has changed a bit since those dark days but West Yorkshire Police will have a long memory


And Leeds rioted in meggies and smashed the place up but I don’t see WYP changing their kick off times and limiting away allocations.
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It’s a shame many fans are going to be forced into resorting to sit in the home end by the WYP ridiculous decision, lots of fans have been looking forward and planning making the trip over on Boxing Day for a while including myself.
Getting tickets isn’t going to be a problem as I’m sure many do have friends and family in the area to purchase them easy enough but it’s not the point is it, shame have to mess about like that..
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Cant remember the year late 80's early 90's Halifax V Grimsby we had more fans in the ground than the home supporters which was amazing to see, the atmosphere was unbelievable sadly i don't remember the result but I do remember two pubs getting wrecked, fans all covered in blood  and a police van being turned over now i appreciate it was a long time ago and football has changed a bit since those dark days but West Yorkshire Police will have a long memory


Thought it was a burger van, that got turned over.
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How many times have we been messed about for one reason or another this season?

Bromley - moved for TV & all ticket
Stockport - moved from Bank Hol to Tuesday night, all ticket
Halifax - capped at 1200, all ticket
Kidderminster - all ticket, capped at 1000
Woking - all ticket
Solihull - all ticket, announced about a day before KO.
Aldershot - think this one was all ticket, then letting people in on the gate
Wealdstone - sure this was all ticket, could be wrong, capped at 800
Altrincham - initial 1000 allocation, then opened up to sales on the gate 24 hours before
Southend - moved to Friday night
Chesterfield pre season - capped at 500, moved to 1pm, all ticket on police request
Dagenham - all ticket, announced about 5 days before KO

Going to be looking at something similar for Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham, Kings Lynn and Barnet too.

Think there’s only Torquay that hasn’t been a ballache to some degree. Is it any wonder fans are getting sick and tired of it when it’s nearly every single week? Some of the small clubs, yeah fair enough, but not grounds where you can get 7, 10, 15k in. It’s a joke.
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How many times have we been messed about for one reason or another this season?

Bromley - moved for TV & all ticket
Stockport - moved by police, all ticket
Halifax - capped at 1200, all ticket
Kidderminster - all ticket, capped at 1000
Woking - all ticket
Solihull - all ticket, announced about a day before KO.
Aldershot - think this one was all ticket, then letting people in on the gate
Wealdstone - sure this was all ticket, could be wrong, capped at 800
Altrincham - initial 1000 allocation, then opened up to sales on the gate 24 hours before
Southend - moved to Friday night

Going to be looking at something similar for Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham, Kings Lynn and Barnet too.

Think there’s only Torquay that hasn’t been a ballache to some degree. Is it any wonder fans are getting sick and tired of it when it’s nearly every single week? Some of the small clubs, yeah fair enough, but not grounds where you can get 7, 10, 15k in. It’s a joke.


This doesn't detract at all from your well-evidenced point, but just to be a pedant, I'm sure the Stockport game was moved by Stockport themselves alongside BT Sport because Stockport's previous game had been moved a few hours later to be shown on TV, and Stockport invoked the leagues' rules of '48 hours' between games to move it from Bank Holiday Monday to the Tuesday evening that week.

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It’s a shame many fans are going to be forced into resorting to sit in the home end by the WYP ridiculous decision, lots of fans have been looking forward and planning making the trip over on Boxing Day for a while including myself.
Getting tickets isn’t going to be a problem as I’m sure many do have friends and family in the area to purchase them easy enough but it’s not the point is it, shame have to mess about like that..


This. I'm not sure the powers that be realise that asking for proof of address/ID is not going to stop lots of us getting tickets. And the vast majority of us will be in the home stand and be respectful, not take the urine etc - but obviously we'd much rather be in the away end with our fans & atmosphere.

It also doesn't just affect us: Halifax fans are really screwed over by this also. The punitive measures their club has put in place to try stop us getting tickets in the home end has meant Halifax supporters who live elsewhere (it's boxing day ffs, a time when people that have moved away from childhood town come back for a few days) will have to get to the ticket office before the 15th December to pick up tickets in person, they are limited to 4 tickets per person (a standard boxing day home match for us that'd be 1/3rd of our family that go to the game)

All this cos a bloody stupid decision by West Yorkshire Police to limit us to 1200 tickets in one of the largest grounds in the league.
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Sorry, that’s right. Moved at a few weeks’ notice to a Tuesday night from bank holiday Monday at Stockport’s request.

The underlying issue is that fans are literally the last people considered in any decision making.
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Maybe this should be on the Fair Game agenda. There’s lots of talk about the importance of football to communities on their website. Fans are part of communities and THE WHOLE POINT in making football the important sport it is. Take the fans away and it’s no different from any other sport.


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Quoted from ska face
How many times have we been messed about for one reason or another this season?

Bromley - moved for TV & all ticket
Stockport - moved by police, all ticket
Halifax - capped at 1200, all ticket
Kidderminster - all ticket, capped at 1000
Woking - all ticket
Solihull - all ticket, announced about a day before KO.
Aldershot - think this one was all ticket, then letting people in on the gate
Wealdstone - sure this was all ticket, could be wrong, capped at 800
Altrincham - initial 1000 allocation, then opened up to sales on the gate 24 hours before
Southend - moved to Friday night

Going to be looking at something similar for Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham, Kings Lynn and Barnet too.

Think there’s only Torquay that hasn’t been a ballache to some degree. Is it any wonder fans are getting sick and tired of it when it’s nearly every single week? Some of the small clubs, yeah fair enough, but not grounds where you can get 7, 10, 15k in. It’s a joke.


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Sorry, that’s right. Moved at a few weeks’ notice to a Tuesday night from bank holiday Monday at Stockport’s request.

The underlying issue is that fans are literally the last people considered in any decision making.


I might be speaking out of turn here in terms of what the truth really is, but the perception I've had is that the club has been quite subservient in many of these requests / decisions. That may well not be the case; but I've not seen much to suggest that we've fought kicking and screaming and / or will be doing everything in our power to prevent fans being unnecessarily or unreasonably inconvenienced in the future.

If last season taught us anything it's that football is nothing without fans. At a level where money is scarce for most clubs, more should be done to get more fans through the turnstiles, not keep them out. It's unfair and utterly counter intuitive.


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I might be speaking out of turn here in terms of what the truth really is, but the perception I've had is that the club has been quite subservient in many of these requests / decisions. That may well not be the case; but I've not seen much to suggest that we've fought kicking and screaming and / or will be doing everything in our power to prevent fans being unnecessarily or unreasonably inconvenienced in the future.

If last season taught us anything it's that football is nothing without fans. At a level where money is scarce for most clubs, more should be done to get more fans through the turnstiles, not keep them out. It's unfair and utterly counter intuitive.


Out of good faith, I don't doubt the club have argued strongly for our case (I read as much that they'd really battled for Notts home game to stay at 3pm, and were successful), but I do think their statements could be stronger following this.

Why not say "we are extremely frustrated that during the festive period, where attending football matches is a tradition for so many families, that West Yorkshire Police have limited our tickets in one of the largest grounds in the league - therefore preventing many people from attending"

I mean, this is why I would never get the job, but I'd be tempted to add "whilst we appreciate it may be tempting for fans who were planning on attending, we strongly discourage you from attempting to get tickets in the home end" just for the lols 😉
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Thought it was a burger van, that got turned over.


Police van was outside one of the pubs, burger van was at the ground if memory serves me right



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Cant remember the year late 80's early 90's Halifax V Grimsby we had more fans in the ground than the home supporters which was amazing to see, the atmosphere was unbelievable sadly i don't remember the result but I do remember two pubs getting wrecked, fans all covered in blood  and a police van being turned over now i appreciate it was a long time ago and football has changed a bit since those dark days but West Yorkshire Police will have a long memory


A dodgy copy, I am sure I have a better one on my highlights tape but wouldn't have a clue how to upload it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rplxBA8ij44&ab_channel=ChiffyMariner
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It’s a shame many fans are going to be forced into resorting to sit in the home end by the WYP ridiculous decision, lots of fans have been looking forward and planning making the trip over on Boxing Day for a while including myself.
Getting tickets isn’t going to be a problem as I’m sure many do have friends and family in the area to purchase them easy enough but it’s not the point is it, shame have to mess about like that..


You'll not see much, the home end is all standing.
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You'll not see much, the home end is all standing.


He could sit on the crush barrier?😉
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Quoted from ska face
How many times have we been messed about for one reason or another this season?

Bromley - moved for TV & all ticket
Stockport - moved by police, all ticket
Halifax - capped at 1200, all ticket
Kidderminster - all ticket, capped at 1000
Woking - all ticket
Solihull - all ticket, announced about a day before KO.
Aldershot - think this one was all ticket, then letting people in on the gate
Wealdstone - sure this was all ticket, could be wrong, capped at 800
Altrincham - initial 1000 allocation, then opened up to sales on the gate 24 hours before
Southend - moved to Friday night

Going to be looking at something similar for Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham, Kings Lynn and Barnet too.

Think there’s only Torquay that hasn’t been a ballache to some degree. Is it any wonder fans are getting sick and tired of it when it’s nearly every single week? Some of the small clubs, yeah fair enough, but not grounds where you can get 7, 10, 15k in. It’s a joke.


Dagenham was made all ticket for away fans on Wednesday too. It's an absolute fcuking joke that for all but a couple of away fixtures this year, where we've only actually sold out one, Town fans have not been able to make an on-the-day decision to attend a division 5 football fixture.
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Here is an article in our local courier about ticketing. Says intercourse all to me, absolute shambles from all involved. My apologies as a Halifax fan.

https://t.co/znDPBFJ4CI
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Even the Chesterfield preseason game was brought forward to 1pm and limited to 500 tickets


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Here is an article in our local courier about ticketing. Says intercourse all to me, absolute shambles from all involved. My apologies as a Halifax fan.

https://t.co/znDPBFJ4CI



This is the kind of shíte I’d like to see the Club or Trust really push back on.

The insinuation that our fans, and our fans alone, are a threat to public safety? Frankly it’s a fûcking disgrace and WYP should be ashamed to put stuff like that out in the public domain, and bollócks to every outlet that regurgitates it without challenge.

You can see why some clubs might restrict sales - staffing, space, cost, etc, but public safety? No chance, stick it up your ringer.
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This is the kind of shíte I’d like to see the Club or Trust really push back on.

The insinuation that our fans, and our fans alone, are a threat to public safety? Frankly it’s a fûcking disgrace and WYP should be ashamed to put stuff like that out in the public domain, and bollócks to every outlet that regurgitates it without challenge.

You can see why some clubs might restrict sales - staffing, space, cost, etc, but public safety? No chance, stick it up your ringer.


Agree, it’s making out that your fans are some sort of domestic terrorists. Still don’t see logically though they limiting you to 1200 is a safe practise. Fine let WYP have their 12:30 kick off and all ticket. Still shite, but fine whatever. But 1200 tickets is making it much unsafer.
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"However the safety of our fans and those who live in the Calderdale community is of paramount importance and the decision has been made with those factors in mind."

Pray tell, specifically what perceived threat do the supporters of Grimsby Town FC pose to the local community? I know we have some ancient Viking history associated with our town, but I think I speak on behalf of the majority of our supporters in saying that I do not intend to travel to Halifax on Boxing Day with the intention of raping and pillaging the good people of Calderdale. I once nicked a Mars bar from the Spar shop on Hardys Road when I was nine, but that’s about as deep as my criminal record goes.

If the police are going to infer that a group of people pose a legitimate threat to public safety, then they need to explain their full rationale. That a few díckheads with a vague association with our club smashed up a pub in Burton a decade or so ago isn’t enough.


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It’s shite isn’t it. I’d like to see a comment from the club and Trust about this at the very least. Really they ought to be working with their opposite numbers at other clubs to challenge these measures in future as I’m sure we won’t be the only ones affected like this. I remember the police turning back a coach of Wrexham fans on the way to BP not do many years ago.

I don’t expect to be prevented from going somewhere because the bloke down the road committed a crime. This is treating everyone who shares an interest as guilty by association. In any other aspect of life this would be regarded as immoral and illegal.


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I'll no longer be able to bring my 6 and 8 year old sons or my 77 year old Dad so that should be a considerable relief to the local community.
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The ticketing restrictions are just insane. Max 4 tickets but you can only have 2 for anyone aged 12-17?

What the fúck’s that about?
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Is there anything we could/should be doing as fans? Other than complaining via e-mail.

I would also like to hear more from the club/trust about the Halifax situation. They should be seeking further and more specific clarification from WYP regarding why we've had such a heavily restricted following. It's not out of the realms of possibility that we may end up going to The Shay again in the playoffs at the end of the season. Would they pull the same shit again in a playoff match?

The public safety thing is an absolute pisstake. We're no more of a threat than fans of other clubs. I've done 6 away games so far this season and I haven't seen anything even close to a jot of trouble in the grounds, in the pubs or at any stations despite being goaded by pretty much every set of home supporters, a reasonable number of players and even one set of managerial and backroom staff.

Apparently the club have been fighting back on things with other clubs and seem to have good relationships with them, but I don't know exactly what they can be expected to do. We can't enforce our own ticketing policies on other clubs. It would however be interesting to know what reasons we're being given for being inconvenienced on what is now an almost weekly/fortnightly basis,
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It’s shite isn’t it. I’d like to see a comment from the club and Trust about this at the very least. Really they ought to be working with their opposite numbers at other clubs to challenge these measures in future as I’m sure we won’t be the only ones affected like this. I remember the police turning back a coach of Wrexham fans on the way to BP not do many years ago.

I don’t expect to be prevented from going somewhere because the bloke down the road committed a crime. This is treating everyone who shares an interest as guilty by association. In any other aspect of life this would be regarded as immoral and illegal.


That Wrexham incident was an absolute joke. They knew some people with banning orders had bought tickets and could have stopped them getting on the bus. Fairly sure this was a push back from Humberside police because the club weren't going with their recommendations for a long while
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Oh and also, I've got best mates who are Blackpool fans and they've told me that their allocation on Boxing Day away at Huddersfield is 2336 which I think is the full allocation they give now that they've put massive adverts over loads of the seats.
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Honestly if the club can't publically challenge these statements then all the "our fans are brilliant" statements and the official GTFC twitter Facebook putting out videos of our "amazing away support" all seems a bit hollow.
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I'm disappointed there has been nothing official from the club. They've got most things absolutely right since the change in ownership but there should have been something communicated by now.
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I'm disappointed there has been nothing official from the club. They've got most things absolutely right since the change in ownership but there should have been something communicated by now.


There were a few tweets the other day but no explanation as such as to why we as Grimsby fans are being discriminated against    

https://twitter.com/DebbieCGF/status/1465263933590315011?s=20

https://twitter.com/GTFC_SLO/status/1465055401918050312?s=20
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I would be very disappointed at this point if the club do not release a statement. It is one thing moving the kick off to 12.30, it is another thing to make it all ticket and it is a whole different other to limit tickets to 1200. Also be great if we could get some coverage in a well-read national broadsheet, such as ohh...the Guardian?

So Blackpool have been allocated 2366 at Huddersfield, Harrogate 1500 at Bradford  (but are unlikely to sell them all). It would appear WYP feel like they'll be stretched and have decided that of a Championship game, a west Yorkshire derby and division 5 fixture, we're the easiest to pick on.

Edit: also Bradford aiming to break thwir division 4 record attendance of 17900 so there'll probably have a lot more rozzers  than is usual. If it is because WYP think they'll be stretched, why don't they or either of the two clubs admit as much? Instead of having to read trite shite about the public safety of the fine citizens of Calderdale from rampaging hordes of fish filleters
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No doubt if the entire day passes without incident then West Yorkshire constabulary will put that entirely down to a highly organised and effective police operation by them, they won't give any praise at all to the grimsby fans who were very well behaved, but if there's any hint of trouble they will solely blame us all and they will make out everything they did in the build up and on the day of the game was perfect!
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I'll no longer be able to bring my 6 and 8 year old sons or my 77 year old Dad so that should be a considerable relief to the local community.


Thank god. That's 3 less hooligans 👀

All joking aside. It's redicilous.
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Trust statement this morning -

We know many fans are disappointed with the ticket allocation for our away game against FC Halifax Town on Boxing Day and understandably, as a board, we share that disappointment.

The decision to allocate 1200 tickets for the FC Halifax Town game has been made following a report from their Safety Advisory Group, which includes the local council (who own their ground), and the local Police Force. A review of the ticket allocation was requested, but ultimately neither club can over-rule the SAG report so no further tickets beyond the 1200 will be available.

We also understand that it is frustrating that some clubs have made last minute decisions to sell tickets on the gate for fixtures, despite informing GTFC that there would be no on the day sales.

Again, this is entirely at the discretion of the home club. We can, and have, always offered our insight on the number of Grimsby Town supporters clubs can expect, to allow them to manage their decision making as effectively as possible.

We, as a Trust, will always try to do what we feel is best for supporters, but sometimes these decisions are regrettably out of the control of the club or Trust.

Kristine and Dave will continue to be involved in ticketing decisions and assist in negotiations to ensure we can secure as many as possible for future fixtures.



Appreciate the acknowledgement and work of the Trust. Suppose I understand the need of the Trust to not start getting into public spats with various arms of The State, especially when the police have unfettered access to any means of communication - plus entire comms departments - and a servile public to back them up.

The police can’t say they haven’t been warned they might be making a rod for their own back. Sure it’ll all pass off without incident.  
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Not sure the trust could’ve done anymore.

That’s a very diplomatic way of saying it’s a flipping joke.

Once again, flimsy, unfounded intelligence is used to inform decision making; in most professions that would face significant scrutiny, with football and the policing of it seems to matter not one iota.

Sadly, with a passive society and fan bases that seem to find it difficult to come together and take a stand, little will happen. Very sad really when we’ve seen across the continent the benefits mass protests and the like can do.

We all love going to football, we all enjoy being at the match but if there were mass protests like we’ve seen in risky, Germany and even Spain, with fans across the country refusing to turn up then perhaps something could be forced…won’t happen though, especially with the theatre going types who watch top flight, top club matches…


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Trust statement this morning -

We know many fans are disappointed with the ticket allocation for our away game against FC Halifax Town on Boxing Day and understandably, as a board, we share that disappointment.

The decision to allocate 1200 tickets for the FC Halifax Town game has been made following a report from their Safety Advisory Group, which includes the local council (who own their ground), and the local Police Force. A review of the ticket allocation was requested, but ultimately neither club can over-rule the SAG report so no further tickets beyond the 1200 will be available.

We also understand that it is frustrating that some clubs have made last minute decisions to sell tickets on the gate for fixtures, despite informing GTFC that there would be no on the day sales.

Again, this is entirely at the discretion of the home club. We can, and have, always offered our insight on the number of Grimsby Town supporters clubs can expect, to allow them to manage their decision making as effectively as possible.

We, as a Trust, will always try to do what we feel is best for supporters, but sometimes these decisions are regrettably out of the control of the club or Trust.

Kristine and Dave will continue to be involved in ticketing decisions and assist in negotiations to ensure we can secure as many as possible for future fixtures.



Appreciate the acknowledgement and work of the Trust. Suppose I understand the need of the Trust to not start getting into public spats with various arms of The State, especially when the police have unfettered access to any means of communication - plus entire comms departments - and a servile public to back them up.

The police can’t say they haven’t been warned they might be making a rod for their own back. Sure it’ll all pass off without incident.  

While I also appreciate that they've gone out of their way to provide a statement, it does little to temper the frustrations of this situation because there's no additional information there really. We don't know if the club or trust or anyone has sought a more specific explanation from WYP and their Safety Advisory Group.
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While I also appreciate that they've gone out of their way to provide a statement, it does little to temper the frustrations of this situation because there's no additional information there really. We don't know if the club or trust or anyone has sought a more specific explanation from WYP and their Safety Advisory Group.


I'd really like the club to make a statement, not just the trust. A fair few Halifax fans are demanding their club makes a statement also.

Christ, the two clubs could even coordinate a statement. Halifax will not be happy at the revenue they will miss out on, nor on the absurd hoops their own fans now have to jump through to get a ticket.
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That gives us the because, not the why. Why are no more than 1200 allowed entry? Why is 1500 or 2000 (which would all still probabky go to ST holders) seen as a much greater risk than 1200? We still need to keep pushing for the SAG and WYP to justify it. Simply put, they can't.
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While I also appreciate that they've gone out of their way to provide a statement, it does little to temper the frustrations of this situation because there's no additional information there really. We don't know if the club or trust or anyone has sought a more specific explanation from WYP and their Safety Advisory Group.


True. I’m always reluctant to criticise the Trust because ultimately, if I don’t like what they’re doing, the option is always there for me to join & do something about it. Which I won’t. Too lazy. So fair’s fair.

This would be a great opportunity for the clubs to make a joint statement to show the financial impact that these decisions have. We could probably do another 2k on top of that allocation, and at say £17 average, you’re looking close to £40k when you factor in programmes & refreshments. How much are local pubs, restaurants etc. missing out on too?

I’d also be interested to see a breakdown of arrests at town games this year, how many of those lead to charges & convictions, and what the actual offences are.
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I'd really like the club to make a statement, not just the trust. A fair few Halifax fans are demanding their club makes a statement also.

Christ, the two clubs could even coordinate a statement. Halifax will not be happy at the revenue they will miss out on, nor on the absurd hoops their own fans now have to jump through to get a ticket.

A co-ordinated statement would definitely be good to see, with you on that.

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True. I’m always reluctant to criticise the Trust because ultimately, if I don’t like what they’re doing, the option is always there for me to join & do something about it. Which I won’t. Too lazy. So fair’s fair.

This would be a great opportunity for the clubs to make a joint statement to show the financial impact that these decisions have. We could probably do another 2k on top of that allocation, and at say £17 average, you’re looking close to £40k when you factor in programmes & refreshments. How much are local pubs, restaurants etc. missing out on too?

I’d also be interested to see a breakdown of arrests at town games this year, how many of those lead to charges & convictions, and what the actual offences are.

Yeah, I don't want it to come across as I'm criticising the trust as I think they do a good job and like you say, I could just be more active than reading their e-mails which is all I do right now.

I can't imagine there have been many arrests this year at all, admittedly I wasn't at a few of our bigger followings (Stockport and Alty) but the most trouble I've seen is a guy passed out at Woking from hitting the beers too hard.
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Irony really that the only game there’s been what would be considered genuine bother this year was at home on the Tuesday night against Wrexham.

Some excitable Welsh chaps and some game lads from town, a couple of slaps, some shouting and then a lot of posturing. Old bill had it under control, didn’t arrest anyone and everyone went away…


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I'd like to see the club or the trust express some anger at the way our fans are being treated and portrayed. Frustration doesn't quite cut it up for me.
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I'd like to see the club or the trust express some anger at the way our fans are being treated and portrayed. Frustration doesn't quite cut it up for me.


It’s a balancing act though, as the response clearly explains, this decision has been made by a committee that knows little about football, has flimsy at best evidence and clearly lacks understanding of genuine crowd safety etc.

They hold the power, that is wrong and that is what needs changing. Think about when our old safety officer essentially said all town fans were thugs, as fans we were powerless to stop that or challenge it without fear of being banned or excommunicated from the club. The same could happen here, these cliques work together. We call it out as a club, you watch it happen time and time again.

A full fan boycott would be helpful although they’d be more than happy with that in truth.

As I’ve said, larger demonstrations across the country are what is needed but sadly won’t happen with our possible football fan base, the tourist types who’ve waited 6 months to see a game won’t refuse themselves entry to support the greater good Becauee in truth, they don’t really care too much…


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This part puzzles me, on one hand they say a decision (which none of us like) was made by another party but on the other hand the trust will continue to be involved in ticketing decisions to secure as many tickets as possible for future fixtures. Are they involved in these decisions or not? (again, not having a go at the trust here just looking for clarification).

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The decision to allocate 1200 tickets for the FC Halifax Town game has been made following a report from their Safety Advisory Group, which includes the local council (who own their ground), and the local Police Force.



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now not on sale till the 8th
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It’s a balancing act though, as the response clearly explains, this decision has been made by a committee that knows little about football, has flimsy at best evidence and clearly lacks understanding of genuine crowd safety etc.

They hold the power, that is wrong and that is what needs changing. Think about when our old safety officer essentially said all town fans were thugs, as fans we were powerless to stop that or challenge it without fear of being banned or excommunicated from the club. The same could happen here, these cliques work together. We call it out as a club, you watch it happen time and time again.

A full fan boycott would be helpful although they’d be more than happy with that in truth.

As I’ve said, larger demonstrations across the country are what is needed but sadly won’t happen with our possible football fan base, the tourist types who’ve waited 6 months to see a game won’t refuse themselves entry to support the greater good Becauee in truth, they don’t really care too much…


It’s not just the tourist types. A lot of English fans have a ‘my club and only my club’ attitude and can’t be arsed to take a wider view. Just look at the number that go to Milton Keynes. Admittedly lower than normal numbers but still significant.

I’d love to see it though. Maybe an issue the FSA can take leadership on.


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It’s not just the tourist types. A lot of English fans have a ‘my club and only my club’ attitude and can’t be arsed to take a wider view. Just look at the number that go to Milton Keynes. Admittedly lower than normal numbers but still significant.

I’d love to see it though. Maybe an issue the FSA can take leadership on.


I agree, we’ve even seen it at town. Whether it blind loyalty to the club so protesting seemed like some slight or just stupidity but remember when we’ve tried to protest? We’ve never really managed more than a 1000.

I remember when Liverpool fans staged that alleged walk out at the price increase for tickets in the new stand…not enough really left, the club did it to some extent and that stand is full.

Sometimes fans should probably relied their clubs aren’t perfect…


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now not on sale till the 8th


Leaving less time for folk to get tickets in the home end once ours are confirmed as sold out, as those sales end on the 12th.

TBH if anyone was thinking about going in the home end, I'd get it sorted ASAP. We all know our tickets aren't going to make it past season ticket holders. The club aren't even suggesting they will put them on general sale even if the very unlikely scenario there's a few left.

Think it's become increasingly clear that WYP and Calderdale Council won't budge, and will put more pressure on Halifax Town to make it ever more difficult for anyone to get tickets in the home end.

An address with photo ID is needed to pick up btw. Presumably just not a Grimsby address, I mean if you live in York, it's just as likely you're a Halifax fan...
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.....,,,Well, there are at least 6 of us living in York who all go to Grimsby games.
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Leaving less time for folk to get tickets in the home end once ours are confirmed as sold out, as those sales end on the 12th.

TBH if anyone was thinking about going in the home end, I'd get it sorted ASAP. We all know our tickets aren't going to make it past season ticket holders. The club aren't even suggesting they will put them on general sale even if the very unlikely scenario there's a few left.

Think it's become increasingly clear that WYP and Calderdale Council won't budge, and will put more pressure on Halifax Town to make it ever more difficult for anyone to get tickets in the home end.

An address with photo ID is needed to pick up btw. Presumably just not a Grimsby address, I mean if you live in York, it's just as likely you're a Halifax fan...


Yes my family and another have already accepted we won’t be getting the 8 tickets we need in the town end,  so made arrangements with our contacts in the area already to get them in the home end, frustrating having to mess about but am sure we aren’t going to be the only ones having to doing this.

We are just your average well behaved group looking to enjoy a day out watching our team and that’s it..
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Yes my family and another have already accepted we won’t be getting the 8 tickets we need in the town end,  so made arrangements with our contacts in the area already to get them in the home end, frustrating having to mess about but am sure we aren’t going to be the only ones having to doing this.

We are just your average well behaved group looking to enjoy a day out watching our team and that’s it..


Yet you may well be endangering yourselves and creating the excact issues that the WYP/ SAG are claiming these measures are trying to prevent.  Don't forget the initial argument seemed to stem from away supporters ( Wrexham ) being attacked by home supporters.......nothing to do with controlling marauding fishy folk raping and pillaging.



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Yet you may well be endangering yourselves and creating the excact issues that the WYP/ SAG are claiming these measures are trying to prevent.  Don't forget the initial argument seemed to stem from away supporters ( Wrexham ) being attacked by home supporters.......nothing to do with controlling marauding fishy folk raping and pillaging.


Well they really haven’t thought it through then have they with the allocation, there will be plenty more going in the home ends and planning for sure.
Fans will always get tickets if they really want to go, they want to hope come Xmas this game isn’t a bigger game for us than it is now.
Our current dip in form has slightly killed a little bit of the buzz around the place recently, I think a lot of us would admit, but if we do start getting on a good run again leading up to this game then yes this could cause problems I’d agree.
I’ll leave the whole talk of fans going in there end here as I don’t want it to draw anymore attention on a public forum possibly spoiling it for others who have planned or planning the same..
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Yet you may well be endangering yourselves and creating the excact issues that the WYP/ SAG are claiming these measures are trying to prevent.  Don't forget the initial argument seemed to stem from away supporters ( Wrexham ) being attacked by home supporters.......nothing to do with controlling marauding fishy folk raping and pillaging.



Then it should have been home fans that they restrict by that logic.

May as well ban non-drinkers from walking near pubs because some drunk people get violent.


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Yes my family and another have already accepted we won’t be getting the 8 tickets we need in the town end,  so made arrangements with our contacts in the area already to get them in the home end, frustrating having to mess about but am sure we aren’t going to be the only ones having to doing this.

We are just your average well behaved group looking to enjoy a day out watching our team and that’s it..


I would keep very quiet if we score as many clubs I have been to have a written policy of ejecting visiting fans in home stands.

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I would keep very quiet if we score as many clubs I have been to have a written policy of ejecting visiting fans in home stands.



I would think there will be at least a few hundred in the home end so not easy to eject them all. I can’t believe how much home fans are being inconvenienced by this as well! WYP clearly had an agenda and are now having to make all sorts of ridiculous decisions to stick with it.
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Yet you may well be endangering yourselves and creating the excact issues that the WYP/ SAG are claiming these measures are trying to prevent.  Don't forget the initial argument seemed to stem from away supporters ( Wrexham ) being attacked by home supporters.......nothing to do with controlling marauding fishy folk raping and pillaging.



There has been no communication from anyone to suggest that our allocation restriction was to do with trouble at their home match vs Wrexham, has there?
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Has anyone tried to contact WYP to politely ask for a reason, and point out that they are massively inconveniencing the general public who want to do nothing more than support their football club. Won't get far but their reply might be interesting.

Another idea, contact our local (invisible) MP to complain about the treatment of her constituents by the authorities, and request her to look into the disproportionate treatment of Grimsby folk.
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Irony really that the only game there’s been what would be considered genuine bother this year was at home on the Tuesday night against Wrexham.

Some excitable Welsh chaps and some game lads from town, a couple of slaps, some shouting and then a lot of posturing. Old bill had it under control, didn’t arrest anyone and everyone went away…


If this is the police basis of restricted tickets then it's disgraceful, after all this was a home game and not an away game. If no town fans have been arrested at away games then you have to ask what is the problem? It's about time Debbie found out the real reasons why Town fans are frowned on at away games by the local police.



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Has anyone tried to contact WYP to politely ask for a reason, and point out that they are massively inconveniencing the general public who want to do nothing more than support their football club. Won't get far but their reply might be interesting.

Another idea, contact our local (invisible) MP to complain about the treatment of her constituents by the authorities, and request her to look into the disproportionate treatment of Grimsby folk.

I emailed the Calderdale Safety Advisory Group and they forwarded me to the relevant person but they've not responded to me yet. Will post in here when they do.
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Yet you may well be endangering yourselves and creating the excact issues that the WYP/ SAG are claiming these measures are trying to prevent.  Don't forget the initial argument seemed to stem from away supporters ( Wrexham ) being attacked by home supporters.......nothing to do with controlling marauding fishy folk raping and pillaging.



That scummy incident a week last Tuesday where a teenage Wrexham fan got set upon by a group of cowardly scumbags happened outside the Shay, and there's doubt whether the group who did it even attended the match.

It horrified Halifax fans and has been widely condemned. Can happen in any town sadly.

I have no concern about being in the home end. Any town fans who end up there and don't act like bellends I'm sure will be fine.
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If you're going the MP route, you'd probably be better off with Vickers, I'd have thought? He is at least a fan of the club and is seen in the town from time to time unlike his Grimsby counterpart.
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If you're going the MP route, you'd probably be better off with Vickers, I'd have thought? He is at least a fan of the club and is seen in the town from time to time unlike his Grimsby counterpart.


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Obviously, but one at least has an interest in the club!
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Another idea, contact our local (invisible) MP to complain about the treatment of her constituents by the authorities, and request her to look into the disproportionate treatment of Grimsby folk.


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Obviously, but one at least has an interest in the club!


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Has anyone tried to contact WYP to politely ask for a reason, and point out that they are massively inconveniencing the general public who want to do nothing more than support their football club. Won't get far but their reply might be interesting.

Another idea, contact our local (invisible) MP to complain about the treatment of her constituents by the authorities, and request her to look into the disproportionate treatment of Grimsby folk.


The pair of them are a waste of space , I’d be surprised if the she gets in again next time totally invisible
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The pair of them are a waste of space , I’d be surprised if the she gets in again next time totally invisible


But you know she will, people will vote for her and the farce of party shes part of…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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But you know she will, people will vote for her and the farce of party shes part of…


Vickers will get in again on a reduced majority but I think the people of great Grimsby like many other red wall towns will revert back to type. Boris promised many things which aren’t happening and mumbles on about peppa pig.
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Vickers will get in again on a reduced majority but I think the people of great Grimsby like many other red wall towns will revert back to type. Boris promised many things which aren’t happening and mumbles on about peppa pig.


Makes a change, tories are usually flipping them…


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Makes a change, tories are usually flipping them…


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Vickers will get in again on a reduced majority but I think the people of great Grimsby like many other red wall towns will revert back to type. Boris promised many things which aren’t happening and mumbles on about peppa pig.


I would rather vote for Peppa Pig than either Labour or Tory tossers.
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Vickers will get in again on a reduced majority but I think the people of great Grimsby like many other red wall towns will revert back to type. Boris promised many things which aren’t happening and mumbles on about peppa pig.


I'm in no way a Boris fan, but he has had far bigger issues to deal with than the things they put in their manifesto. I expect the red wall will mostly return using that as a reason, but this government haven't really had a good opportunity to change things as much as they'd like with Covid dominating the last 2 years.
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Quoted from Davec
Only on sale to season ticket holders, I am 1878 member so might not even be able to get a ticket!



If any season ticket holders who know they can not make it, if you could get a ticket anyway for me, that would be much appreciated! I will pay Obviously Don't mind paying over face value either and I will also owe you a pint!


I can't go Davec and would be only too pleased to get you a ticket. The price is £240 + £48 VAT + £36  Service charge  +   £3.60  click + collect  I will take into account the fact that you gave me a gold star on 2 occasions and only charge you £420 for cash . Hope to hear from you soon as I can't keep this offer open for long.    Uncle Golfer.
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Quoted from pen penfras

this government haven't really had a good opportunity to change things as much as they'd like with Covid dominating the last 2 years.


Not just GrimsbyTown managers using Covid as an excuse them?



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I can't go Davec and would be only too pleased to get you a ticket. The price is £240 + £48 VAT + £36  Service charge  +   £3.60  click + collect  I will take into account the fact that you gave me a gold star on 2 occasions and only charge you £420 for cash . Hope to hear from you soon as I can't keep this offer open for long.    Uncle Golfer.


Already borrowing a mate's season ticket who can't make it 😉
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I'm in no way a Boris fan, but he has had far bigger issues to deal with than the things they put in their manifesto. I expect the red wall will mostly return using that as a reason, but this government haven't really had a good opportunity to change things as much as they'd like with Covid dominating the last 2 years.


Yes, well done Boris, using Covid to disguise the fallout from Brexit and an excuse to tear up all your manifesto promises whilst allowing sleaze, corruption and illegal parties to go ahead unabated.
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I'm in no way a Boris fan, but he has had far bigger issues to deal with than the things they put in their manifesto. I expect the red wall will mostly return using that as a reason, but this government haven't really had a good opportunity to change things as much as they'd like with Covid dominating the last 2 years.


They found time to sort their mates out though with huge contracts for Ppe and get bills through the house that safeguard elderly home owners in the wealthy south .. I’m no Labour lover but this government while telling us the public to stay in we’re all getting drunk up and in hancocks case shagging. I’m not anti Tory but I’m most definately  anti Boris he’s completely out of his depth
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If anyone is trying to get through to the ticket office.... good luck!

Keeps connecting and then after pressing "option 4" for the ticket office, all you get is a message "an error has occurred"

Doesn't inspire confidence .....

EDIT

Tried the online booking portal after seeing the comments below and success.... ticket(s) sorted
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I think my order worked.


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Booking portal seems to have crashed.......picked tickets ..sent payment....now stuck in a circle of doom waiting for payment to be confirmed...


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Quoted from moosey_club
Booking portal seems to have crashed.......picked tickets ..sent payment....now stuck in a circle of doom waiting for payment to be confirmed...


Mine too, but finally taken payment.  



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Seemed to take forever…got a confirmation email though saying payment has been taken etc so thankfully it’s gone through.

Can’t check the bank as my apps having a nightmare…


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Club shop was open at 9 with folk being served. I went about 9.30.

Gents buying for 13 of his mates etc, wont last long these tickets
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Worked quite smoothly for me, still strange seeing the new site after years of wrestling with the old one


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Quoted from Hagrid
Club shop was open at 9 with folk being served. I went about 9.30.

Gents buying for 13 of his mates etc, wont last long these tickets

How was he buying that amount of tickets? They're supposed to be one for one for season ticket holders only, aren't they?
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How was he buying that amount of tickets? They're supposed to be one for one for season ticket holders only, aren't they?


13 season tickets? I’ve bought 6 tickets for games before using other peoples season tickets because they couldn’t get to the club shop etc…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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How was he buying that amount of tickets? They're supposed to be one for one for season ticket holders only, aren't they?


He had screenshots of the Season tickets and was relaying names to the club shop staff
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Can’t check the bank as my apps having a nightmare…


Always happy to help a fellow Mariner.

Just PM me your details, password and PIN   Then  I’ll check it for you 😀


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Got mine, gotta say I love the booking Portal, so, now tell me what the new owners haven't done to improve things?..
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Got mine, gotta say I love the booking Portal, so, now tell me what the new owners haven't done to improve things?..


The new ticketing system was in place for last season but obviously we never got to attend.
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The new ticketing system was in place for last season but obviously we never got to attend.


Sorry Golly but I'm sure the new portal was only introduced at the start of this season, the actual scanners in the turnstiles may have been ready to go last season but don't quote me on that.
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990 sold as of 15.45 today.


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Cabinet currently discussing extra covid restrictions such as vaccine checks for all outdoor venues over 4000 people. (DT)

PM giving Covid press conference at 6.00 pm.
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Vaccine checks at the gates of football stadiums will work absolutely brilliantly, with no inconvenience to the match-going fan whatsoever.


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Vaccine checks at the gates of football stadiums will work absolutely brilliantly, with no inconvenience to the match-going fan whatsoever.


It will still be twice as quick as Stevenage !!


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Quoted from Poojah
Vaccine checks at the gates of football stadiums will work absolutely brilliantly, with no inconvenience to the match-going fan whatsoever.


I’ve been to numerous events since they’ve floated the idea of some futile passport nonsense…the one I thought would be an issue, a festival, the security, understandably so we’re more concerned about illegal substances etc entering the festival rather than someone waving some paper or an app…

Imagine dear old Doris at some of the places we visit…you’ll end up missing most of the first half…


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Quoted from Croxton
Cabinet currently discussing extra covid restrictions such as vaccine checks for all outdoor venues over 4000 people. (DT)

PM giving Covid press conference at 6.00 pm.


Will probably be under 4000 anyway now we have had our allocation clipped.
If they do go that route it would mean every game would have to be all ticket prior to match day  so clubs could evaluate if they have to have extra staff covering to do the checks.


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Quoted from Poojah
Vaccine checks at the gates of football stadiums will work absolutely brilliantly, with no inconvenience to the match-going fan whatsoever.


Funnily enough he's just said "unseated above 4000" so surely that rules out football stadia??
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I went to see Rick Astley in October in Leeds, and there was 3 different cordons you had to pass through, so at the first cordon they was checking everybody's proof of vaccine and I mean everybody's but when somebody in front of me said they had no proof of vaccine or no proof of a negative Covid test they basically just waved him through anyway and at the next 2 cordons no further checks were carried out.

My point is that, not everybody will be checked so how effective will it really be? Massive inconvenience checking everybody so probably won't be effective.
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I went to see Rick Astley in October in Leeds, and there was 3 different cordons you had to pass through, so at the first cordon they was checking everybody's proof of vaccine and I mean everybody's but when somebody in front of me said they had no proof of vaccine or no proof of a negative Covid test they basically just waved him through anyway and at the next 2 cordons no further checks were carried out.

My point is that, not everybody will be checked so how effective will it really be? Massive inconvenience checking everybody so probably won't be effective.


This is really the point isn’t it? It isn’t likely to be effectively or consistently implemented and in truth is at really going to make anything safer? Not really. You can be as clued up or worried about covid as you like but you’d have see that this isn’t really worthwhile…

I’ve been to gigs that have ‘checked’ but didn’t really, I’ve been to a small, tiny gig that did check and I’ve been to plenty that haven’t been arsed and just carry out the usual searches on the way in…

It’ll barely affect us at town anyway…


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Quoted from Davec
I went to see Rick Astley in October in Leeds, and there was 3 different cordons you had to pass through, so at the first cordon they was checking everybody's proof of vaccine and I mean everybody's but when somebody in front of me said they had no proof of vaccine or no proof of a negative Covid test they basically just waved him through anyway and at the next 2 cordons no further checks were carried out.


Assumedly nobody was going to give him up.
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Quoted from Vance Warner


Assumedly nobody was going to give him up.


Cmon, you know the rules and so do I. A full commitments what am thinking of.


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Halifax have been quick to outline the rules and procedures that will be in place on Boxing Day…

[url=https://shorturl.at/eqD01]Click here[/url]


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Halifax have been quick to outline the rules and procedures that will be in place on Boxing Day…

[url=https://shorturl.at/eqD01]Click here[/url]


I now need a brain rinse.
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Halifax have been quick to outline the rules and procedures that will be in place on Boxing Day…

[url=https://shorturl.at/eqD01]Click here[/url]


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How many people have been arrested or kicked out of supermarkets/shops for not wearing the legally required masks in the last few days? Somewhere around none, I suspect and no police to supervise it.

So why should football, in an open air stadium, be treated differently?


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Quoted from DB
How many people have been arrested or kicked out of supermarkets/shops for not wearing the legally required masks in the last few days? Somewhere around none, I suspect and no police to supervise it.

So why should football, in an open air stadium, be treated differently?


Because it hasn’t been legally required?


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Vaccine checks at the gates of football stadiums will work absolutely brilliantly, with no inconvenience to the match-going fan whatsoever.


I went to a Bundesliga match with 16k people in attendance in September that required attendees to show a vaccination certificate, proof of covid infection within the last 180 days, or a recent negative lateral flow test result to gain entry, and it was absolutely fine. There were no gigantic queues and nobody had any issues getting into the stadium in time for kickoff, so this idea that it's some logistical impossibility to get people to turn up and show an extra bit of paper or a pdf to a steward before going through the turnstiles really is misguided.


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I went to a Bundesliga match with 16k people in attendance in September that required attendees to show a vaccination certificate, proof of covid infection within the last 180 days, or a recent negative lateral flow test result to gain entry, and it was absolutely fine. There were no gigantic queues and nobody had any issues getting into the stadium in time for kickoff, so this idea that it's some logistical impossibility to get people to turn up and show an extra bit of paper or a pdf to a steward before going through the turnstiles really is misguided.


That’s Germany, the motherland of efficiency.

In England, where we perform cavity searches just in case someone’s jammed a smoke bomb into their orifice, you may not get quite the same experience.

If it’s actually enforced of course. Which it won’t be, beyond the first week at least.


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That’s Germany, the motherland of efficiency.

In England, where we perform cavity searches just in case someone’s jammed a smoke bomb into their orifice, you may not get quite the same experience.

If it’s actually enforced of course. Which it won’t be, beyond the first week at least.


That was going to be my response, and I agree, after the first week nobody will be arsed.


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I went to a Bundesliga match with 16k people in attendance in September that required attendees to show a vaccination certificate, proof of covid infection within the last 180 days, or a recent negative lateral flow test result to gain entry, and it was absolutely fine. There were no gigantic queues and nobody had any issues getting into the stadium in time for kickoff, so this idea that it's some logistical impossibility to get people to turn up and show an extra bit of paper or a pdf to a steward before going through the turnstiles really is misguided.

Yeah, it's not difficult. Get the NHS App, get your COVID pass. Show it on the way into events. I've been to about quite a few things that I've needed to do that at over the last 6 months or so and it's really not a problem at all. It's being made out like this is a brand new thing, but this system has been used a lot since gigs and large scale events started up again.
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If all you need is a screenshot of a negative test or proof you’ve had both jabs etc, then surely, as with the ticket fiasco, these can be used and copied by anyone?


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It's a negative lateral flow test, not pcr. I saw somebody run off to get a test kit and do it in the queue when they heard you needed it. It's not a big deal and it won't really make any difference when double vaccinated people can still spread it and are less likely to know they have it
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It's a negative lateral flow test, not pcr. I saw somebody run off to get a test kit and do it in the queue when they heard you needed it. It's not a big deal and it won't really make any difference when double vaccinated people can still spread it and are less likely to know they have it


Yep - especially now LFTs are just the nose swab, they are so quick and easy to do.
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Yep - especially now LFTs are just the nose swab, they are so quick and easy to do.


Almost suggests they’re pointless…


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Almost suggests they’re pointless…


Not pointless, but their accuracy isn't great so it's not a good way to prove you don't have it.

Figures range from 50% to 99% accuracy depending on the study and how the participants were chosen. The high number was on hospitalised patients who have a large amount of covid in them.
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Not pointless, but their accuracy isn't great so it's not a good way to prove you don't have it.

Figures range from 50% to 99% accuracy depending on the study and how the participants were chosen. The high number was on hospitalised patients who have a large amount of covid in them.


Yep, and their flaws in accuracy relate to false negatives: false positives are extremely rare.

They are not perfect by a long shot, but considering they should be used when someone doesn't have symptoms (so just as a matter of course or to attend an event), even at the lower end of the accuracy scale, that 50% testing positive is at least identifying a fair few cases and helping sloe the spread.
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Almost suggests they’re pointless…


This.



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This.


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To be fair. Although I don't like getting into these kind of conversations. It is very easy to fake or lie about the LFD tests. I get given a pack at school and register when I take them but how do they really know I have taken it?
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That’s Germany, the motherland of efficiency.

In England, where we perform cavity searches just in case someone’s jammed a smoke bomb into their orifice, you may not get quite the same experience.

If it’s actually enforced of course. Which it won’t be, beyond the first week at least.


Funny, but that’s a myth.


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I’m surprised this hasn’t been moved to non-football yet, like the thread about racism at a Town match.

Is it because it’s not perceived as a left-right issue?


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I’m surprised this hasn’t been moved to non-football yet, like the thread about racism at a Town match.

Is it because it’s not perceived as a left-right issue?


There are a lot of threads in this section at the minute that have gone wildly off topic, and that off-topic conversation is what's increased the page count.

I find the decision to move the topic around discriminatory abuse taking place at a Town match to non-football baffling (and that's the most generous thing I can say about it).
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Have the 1200 gone now?


Doesn’t look like it, link’s still live on the ticket portal.

On sale to 1878 members 9am tomorrow morning.
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Doesn’t look like it, link’s still live on the ticket portal.

On sale to 1878 members 9am tomorrow morning.


Surprised they haven't all gone. I guess the downward turn in form hasn't helped and once we was only getting 1200 people may of made other plans for boxing day.
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All the fúcking about has obviously put people off. Seen plenty saying they’ll not go where they’re clearly not wanted, others not chancing buying a ticket if non-ST mates can’t get one, others can’t be arśed with the 12:30ko after probably having a drink on Xmas day.

Can’t imagine there’s that many left - been said on here that we’d done 990 before 4pm on the first day. So what’s that, couple of hundred to shift since then?
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So bbok now Liomited availability


Typed this after the Christmas party ??


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[quote=213]All the fúcking about has obviously put people off. Seen plenty saying they’ll not go where they’re clearly not wanted, others not chancing buying a ticket if non-ST mates can’t get one, others can’t be arśed with the 12:30ko after probably having a drink on Xmas day. /quote]

Think thats a really good summary.
All the positive factors  (distance, non work day etc) undermined by ticket availability, recent form, uncertainty re friends getting tickets, who would be driving, even the fact that the 'return' game is televised  Plus we have a shed load of home games coming up.  I'd guess some non season ticket holders will have chosen the rearranged b.w. game instead to go to with friends.

I wonder how many tickets scunny would have given us!?!?

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