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| November 18, 2021, 12:07pm |
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From the start PH said he preferred small squads, I'll bet he regrets that now we're on our bottom end
How are we on our ‘@rse end’ ? |
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| chaos33 |
| November 18, 2021, 12:11pm |
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There is somthing deffo wrong somewhere if a top team cannot attract players . This will be the best chance to get out this league and folk have been expecting more rightly or wrongley . if we lose on friday fans will start to dwindle away very quickley
‘Wrongley’ and ‘quickley’? Sometimes you seem to enjoy doom mongering. You’re not even constructive or balanced. Why don’t you just give up supporting Town or writing badly expressed cobblers on a message board and taking up something you enjoy? |
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| MuddyWaters |
| November 18, 2021, 12:31pm |
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‘Wrongley’ and ‘quickley’?
Sometimes you seem to enjoy doom mongering.
You’re not even constructive or balanced. Why don’t you just give up supporting Town or writing badly expressed cobblers on a message board and taking up something you enjoy?
Always thought that a message board/forum was for diverse opinions and views. We’ve lost four on the bounce, can’t buy a goal (or a striker) and yet any slight negative comment is berated. I’m all for the improvements that are being made but football clubs are generally judged by on field success. |
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| toontown |
| November 18, 2021, 12:38pm |
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Sorry I have to disagree with you, this is simply not our best chance of getting out of this league, certainly when we are up againat the likes of Wrexham, Stockport, Chesterfield who are spunking cash for fun and have the means to do so.
We we're always in for a bumpy road this year with the turnaround of the squad and the facilities needing so much investment just to make it fit for purpose.
What I'm seeing is the fans are taking to the squad and owners like I've not seen in years and I honestly believe we've gone from an hard core of 3000 to 4000 purely down to the fact the feeling around the place has improved exponentially.
If The Board set a budget based on a crowd of 3500 then it's not difficult to see that the 2022/2023 budget will increase due to increased crowd numbers
So back to my original point, for me next season should offer a better opportunity to move out this league, hopefully one of the big spenders will go up, the teams currently bottom of league 2 do not have the funding we will have and I'm expecting a slightly better squad, small improvements will go along a way and patience is needed
Remember though next season we lose half our parachute payments, the rest the year after, so a lot of extra income would be swallowed up replacing that. |
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| lew chaterleys lover |
| November 18, 2021, 12:41pm |
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So why is there 6000+ expected Friday after 4 straight defeats?
Most of what is in this thread is conspiracy theory and conjecture - absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever
People taking out their frustrations with no idea what is going on
He's tried to get Bogle in - not interested
He's tried other options but for several reasons they've not come off
Look where getting Jackson, Gibson, Sisay, Williams, Rose et al got us last year - nowhere!
I think the London area clubs have a huge advantage over us - location and appeal... Grimsby is simply not an attractive place to a lot of players whether we are top or bottom
Chesterfield have paid way over the odds for Tshimanga - fair enough... but it's no guarantee of promotion and Hurst said he was not prepared to pay 250k plus his wages - 100% agree with him
Hurst could not have expected out of 4 strikers that we'd have one long-term injury; one out for 4-6 weeks; and one on cusp of always being injured.. you can't keep splashing the cash
Taylor is the type of quality player we attract now - over 30 and injury prone; we simply can't compete on so many levels for younger strikers
We are way down the pecking order - money, wages, player ambition, attractive club
It is frustrating but it's the modern game I'm afraid
Fair points. I don't however agree that we cannot attract players. We are in the 5th tier and obviously a big player in the league. We attracted players who took us to the top of the table, and of course many thousands of players over the years. We get good crowds and are in the top 3. The location works both ways and some players would prefer to be north of Watford. There are relatively few clubs where players can go if they are of a good 5th tier standard, they do not have an unlimited choice of clubs that are in the exact location they prefer or can afford them. I was hoping that narrowed down list would give us an advantage but we seem to be making heavy weather of it. I do agree that we cannot keep throwing money at it, but I am equally sure the owners will not want to throw the good start and goodwill out of the window for the sake of signing a couple of players to keep us in good shape. |
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| pontoonlew |
| November 18, 2021, 12:51pm |
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So why is there 6000+ expected Friday after 4 straight defeats?
Most of what is in this thread is conspiracy theory and conjecture - absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever
People taking out their frustrations with no idea what is going on
He's tried to get Bogle in - not interested
He's tried other options but for several reasons they've not come off
Look where getting Jackson, Gibson, Sisay, Williams, Rose et al got us last year - nowhere!
I think the London area clubs have a huge advantage over us - location and appeal... Grimsby is simply not an attractive place to a lot of players whether we are top or bottom
Chesterfield have paid way over the odds for Tshimanga - fair enough... but it's no guarantee of promotion and Hurst said he was not prepared to pay 250k plus his wages - 100% agree with him
Hurst could not have expected out of 4 strikers that we'd have one long-term injury; one out for 4-6 weeks; and one on cusp of always being injured.. you can't keep splashing the cash
Taylor is the type of quality player we attract now - over 30 and injury prone; we simply can't compete on so many levels for younger strikers
We are way down the pecking order - money, wages, player ambition, attractive club
It is frustrating but it's the modern game I'm afraid
The famous ‘they won’t want to come here’ narrative is out again I see. There are currently 20 players at other clubs who have scored the same or more than Ryan Taylor. I’m not for one minute that Taylor isn’t a good option but are you seriously telling me there’s nobody out there equal or better than could realistically come here? It’s an old, tired excuse IMO. As for not predicting that we’d have injuries up front, why could a proportion of our fan base see it coming but not Hurst? LJL and Taylor have long histories of injuries. |
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| toontown |
| November 18, 2021, 12:51pm |
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Remember though next season we lose half our parachute payments, the rest the year after, so a lot of extra income would be swallowed up replacing that.
Plus fenty will still be sucking money out the club which this year we got transfer fees to pay off, next year it will have to come out of the regular income generation most likely |
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| chaos33 |
| November 18, 2021, 1:11pm |
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Always thought that a message board/forum was for diverse opinions and views. We’ve lost four on the bounce, can’t buy a goal (or a striker) and yet any slight negative comment is berated.
I’m all for the improvements that are being made but football clubs are generally judged by on field success.
Don’t be silly. He doesn’t make use of ‘slight negative’ comments. He just contributes wallowing, pessimistic overstatement. I’m not trying to say he shouldn’t post a critical opinion - I’ve done that tons of times myself on here, but he doesn’t seem to ever see anything enjoyable or posiive in following Town or contributing here, but loiters waiting until something doesn’t go well and off he goes…..and that’s a huge worry to me. 😉 Alright, obviously I couldn’t really give a toss but it’s boring. |
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| devs |
| November 18, 2021, 1:20pm |
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Good points too...
Fair points.
I don't however agree that we cannot attract players.
We are in the 5th tier and obviously a big player in the league. We attracted players who took us to the top of the table, and of course many thousands of players over the years. We get good crowds and are in the top 3.
The location works both ways and some players would prefer to be north of Watford.
There are relatively few clubs where players can go if they are of a good 5th tier standard, they do not have an unlimited choice of clubs that are in the exact location they prefer or can afford them. I was hoping that narrowed down list would give us an advantage but we seem to be making heavy weather of it.
I do agree that we cannot keep throwing money at it, but I am equally sure the owners will not want to throw the good start and goodwill out of the window for the sake of signing a couple of players to keep us in good shape.
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| Northbank Mariner |
| November 18, 2021, 1:40pm |
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Plus fenty will still be sucking money out the club which this year we got transfer fees to pay off, next year it will have to come out of the regular income generation most likely
That's what I focused on the increased crowd funding the playing budget. That's the barometer for the money available to Hurst or whomever is in charge. I don't think the parachute payments have gone into the squad, I would suspect that's been used on the pitch, ground and cheapside. If I recall correctly the owners had already budgeted for paying "him" back and said that won't affect the playing budget...god I hate Fenty! |
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