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MuddyWaters
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I would like to think we are using a new accounting firm now after using a directors former employer for years which would add delay.


Why? Stephen Marley had retired as a partner of Weaver Wroot before he became a GTFC director.
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It seems to me that teams like Sutton and Barrow have enjoyed success because they are run sensibly. Harrogate too, I suppose, although they do have a bit of money behind them.

I do wonder whether sensible teams prosper because of so-called 'bigger' teams overspending and getting themselves into difficulty. A lot of teams go chasing the dream and when it doesn't happen they suddenly have to tighten the purse strings (and we only have to look down the road to see that in effect).

This gives rise to the more sensibly-run clubs. Big spenders may buy their way to titles and promotions but, in the long run, their success and even existence may be volatile.

A sensibly-run club will always be around and have a chance of success at the expense of the overspenders.

To overspend in the National League and then fail to get promoted is dangerous.


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Why? Stephen Marley had retired as a partner of Weaver Wroot before he became a GTFC director.


Can you not see the possible risks there? Not saying anything untoward was going on, but if it was, a new accountancy firm would hopefully bring those issues to light. Plus, it's prudent to change every now and again too and new owners is a great reason to do that.

As for not holding an AGM this year, we don't need to hold one now we are private and I agree that in these new transparent times that we should be doing. But you can't hold an AGM if there aren't any accounts to talk about.
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It seems to me that teams like Sutton and Barrow have enjoyed success because they are run sensibly. Harrogate too, I suppose, although they do have a bit of money behind them.

I do wonder whether sensible teams prosper because of so-called 'bigger' teams overspending and getting themselves into difficulty. A lot of teams go chasing the dream and when it doesn't happen they suddenly have to tighten the purse strings (and we only have to look down the road to see that in effect).

This gives rise to the more sensibly-run clubs. Big spenders may buy their way to titles and promotions but, in the long run, their success and even existence may be volatile.

A sensibly-run club will always be around and have a chance of success at the expense of the overspenders.

To overspend in the National League and then fail to get promoted is dangerous.


I suppose it depends what the fans want, a club prepared to speculate or a sensibly run club that may spend years in non league.
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I Googled ‘Fair Game Alliance’ and got several pages about gaming. I’m not sure quite what that says about its importance.


A search for “Fair Game” threw this up as the second link (the first was a film).

https://www.fairgameuk.org/


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Quoted from RichMariner
It seems to me that teams like Sutton and Barrow have enjoyed success because they are run sensibly. Harrogate too, I suppose, although they do have a bit of money behind them.

I do wonder whether sensible teams prosper because of so-called 'bigger' teams overspending and getting themselves into difficulty. A lot of teams go chasing the dream and when it doesn't happen they suddenly have to tighten the purse strings (and we only have to look down the road to see that in effect).

This gives rise to the more sensibly-run clubs. Big spenders may buy their way to titles and promotions but, in the long run, their success and even existence may be volatile.

A sensibly-run club will always be around and have a chance of success at the expense of the overspenders.

To overspend in the National League and then fail to get promoted is dangerous.


Hopefully, we will now be a well-run club, but that does not mean we cannot buy a centre forward when we need one. Sutton Barrow and Harrogate do not get the gates (money) we do for a start. There always has to be a certain amount of speculate to accumulate in a competitive division like this.
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Has anybody thought that instead of debating the need to buy a new No9 the state the club would have been totally different if Jason and Andrew hadn't bought it? 2 points above Dover perhaps!

There have been many good things happening and many more to come. We know what we have with the new owners and that is progress, the progress that has happened in 6 months far exceeds that of the previous 17 years.

The offer of training and jobs through the club is an excellent way for the club to make community progress. Again more in 1 stroke for local people than JF super fan did in 17 years. What J & A are doing is to make it a sustainable club.

Hurst has said many times he has and is trying to bring players in. Some clubs are reluctant to release his targets, some players are reluctant to come. Going back decades when we were in the Championship (old Div 2 ) we did attract good players including a Chinese International and ex-English internationals.

The club is on the move upwards from the mess it was in. We have to learn to be patient and support the club and players all we can. As I said above we could have been 2 points above Dover!!.


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Has anybody thought that instead of debating the need to buy a new No9 the state the club would have been totally different if Jason and Andrew hadn't bought it? 2 points above Dover perhaps!

There have been many good things happening and many more to come. We know what we have with the new owners and that is progress, the progress that has happened in 6 months far exceeds that of the previous 17 years.

The offer of training and jobs through the club is an excellent way for the club to make community progress. Again more in 1 stroke for local people than JF super fan did in 17 years. What J & A are doing is to make it a sustainable club.

Hurst has said many times he has and is trying to bring players in. Some clubs are reluctant to release his targets, some players are reluctant to come. Going back decades when we were in the Championship (old Div 2 ) we did attract good players including a Chinese International and ex-English internationals.

The club is on the move upwards from the mess it was in. We have to learn to be patient and support the club and players all we can. As I said above we could have been 2 points above Dover!!.


? If we were 2 points above Dover we would be debating that. But we are not, we are obviously short of a player or two so we are debating that.
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? If we were 2 points above Dover we would be debating that. But we are not, we are obviously short of a player or two so we are debating that.


I was merely expressing what a good position the club is in compared to what might have been.



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I was merely expressing what a good position the club is in compared to what might have been.



Then we need to take advantage of our good position and not let it slip through our fingers.
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