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GollyGTFC
November 10, 2021, 7:21am

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Can everyone get safe standing out of their heads. It’s for the top 2 divisions where conventional standing is banned. You’re not going to see League One clubs convert if the trial is successful let alone non-league clubs. Blundell Park will be all-seater as long as we remain there.
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Is this only a continua talking point because we don’t have standing at BP?

Almost every ground, with the exception of the bigger ex football league clubs in the conference have standing…

There are people wanting safe standing introduced at BP who, in another thread saying that BP shouldn’t be redeveloped and we should move grounds.

Standing should exist and I believe is much safer than seats but it’s moot point for town surely?


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I know I'm going back decades but I remember the best atmosphere for matches was where most of the ground was standing. I'm not sure if the Barratt had seats at the back, the Osmond did and still has at the back, the lower Findus didn't for a start and the Pontoon was the Pontoon. The lower Main didn't have seats either.

Open corners were all standing and a poor house was 12,000. Good old days, or bad old days depending upon your view. It made the club what it was until you know who got his hands on it. What we need is a vision for the future and the best mix might be 50/50 standing and seating.


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I totally understand people wanting to stand and I look forward to areas that cater for people who want to but as a disabled supporter I don’t have the option so you can imagine how annoying it is when people stand in there seats…….it usually happens at away matches but people are generally very respectful of staying sat in the main stand where I have my season ticket seat…..
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Quoted from DB
I know I'm going back decades but I remember the best atmosphere for matches was where most of the ground was standing. I'm not sure if the Barratt had seats at the back, the Osmond did and still has at the back, the lower Findus didn't for a start and the Pontoon was the Pontoon. The lower Main didn't have seats either.

Open corners were all standing and a poor house was 12,000. Good old days, or bad old days depending upon your view. It made the club what it was until you know who got his hands on it. What we need is a vision for the future and the best mix might be 50/50 standing and seating.


Two points.

1.  The atmosphere you talk of was with the larger crowds. If you had 20,000 seats at BP sold out against Leeds or Sheff Wed etc the atmosphere would still be as amazing as 20,000 standing.

2. Weirdly enough, one of the buzz’s as a youngster, was the crush, the mayhem when we scored etc.  None of which you get with safe standing.

I absolutely agree they should bring safe standing in where viable. There are a lot who prefer it.  But I doubt it will be a cheaper admission or better earner for the club.
I would love the old style standing, but realise that won’t happen. So for me, if it’s safe standing or a seat. I’ll take a seat.
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We have to accept that we are not leaving BP for at least the next few years and that making the ground more welcoming is already reaping dividends in terms of improved attendance. We have left the era of 'doing the bare minimum' and are now enjoying a new period of 'make it better'.

The fanzone and the replaced barrier at the front of the upper Findus were not essential spend, but have proven to be a success. The improvements to the training ground were sorely needed as well. I assume the toilets and disabled facilities will be tackled soon.

This article puts the cost of rail seats at between £60 and £90 - http://hammersunited.com/safe-standing-article-from-the-times/

So to convert the 400 seats in Block F and half of block E in the Pontoon, where the majority stand anyway, would cost between £24k and £36k. It would also free up the old seats to use for replacing broken seats elsewhere in the stadium. It's not a small amount, but it's also not budget breaking.


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We have to accept that we are not leaving BP for at least the next few years and that making the ground more welcoming is already reaping dividends in terms of improved attendance. We have left the era of 'doing the bare minimum' and are now enjoying a new period of 'make it better'.

The fanzone and the replaced barrier at the front of the upper Findus were not essential spend, but have proven to be a success. The improvements to the training ground were sorely needed as well. I assume the toilets and disabled facilities will be tackled soon.

This article puts the cost of rail seats at between £60 and £90 - http://hammersunited.com/safe-standing-article-from-the-times/

So to convert the 400 seats in Block F and half of block E in the Pontoon, where the majority stand anyway, would cost between £24k and £36k. It would also free up the old seats to use for replacing broken seats elsewhere in the stadium. It's not a small amount, but it's also not budget breaking.


Been mentioned on  a thread elsewhere; that plus construction of a small covered stand using those seats in the Harrington St corner with the Pontoon seats would give a small increase in capacity which we should be able to sell when the Osmond can't be opened to home fans. It might take 3-4 seasons to break even (faster if we got promotion) but we won't move in that timescale.

I noted this from the Trust AGM Q and A DC said JS & AP have had some work done
on potential options for the stadium debate. Final report arrived last week, so is under consideration now.


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Can everyone get safe standing out of their heads. It’s for the top 2 divisions where conventional standing is banned. You’re not going to see League One clubs convert if the trial is successful let alone non-league clubs. Blundell Park will be all-seater as long as we remain there.


What about League One clubs with ambition to play in the Championship?

I don't think there's a law against lower league clubs having safe standing, it's just that they have no need to convert their existing traditional terraces.
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The scunts have had safe standing for years. There’s no fu(ker in the home end


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