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MuddyWaters
November 4, 2021, 8:25am
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I get it for line calls but it should be quicker.

As for subjective issues like the difference between a yellow and red card tackle, surely it should be down to the onfield referee and the context of the game?
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Ah well, we'll just have to kick around the lower leagues having fun.......










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As long it’s used for the most marginal of decisions, it’s male masturbation.
The buzzer system for goal lines is fine as it’s very discrete and quick.
If you have to wait a minute to see if Harry Kane’s left bollock was in an offside position, then it’s just pantomime stuff.


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My only bugbear with it now is the offside at goals, minutes after everyone has celebrated the goal can then be ruled out, which is infuriating. Granted they have improved the margin of error problem - not had many toe nail incidents this season.

However i think the tech that Hawk-eye are looking to introduce, at the World Cup, would solve that issue. Real time (think they said it'd be 2 seconds behind play) monitoring of offsides sent straight to the linesman meaning it'll take a tiny fraction of the time.

Would also like the fans to be able to hear the discussions, similar to rugby/cricket, as i think that'd clear a lot of confusion which leads to anger over decisions.

We can all dislike it, but it's here and here to stay and there's nothing we can do about that I'm afraid. So as long as they continue to improve, no issue from me. English football has been miles behind how it has been used in Europe and elsewhere where it has run a lot smoother - key example of that is the World Cup and Euros which were pretty good.


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November 4, 2021, 10:27am
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Go back to original offsides, easy for lino to see, use VAR  for penalty claims . For corners shirt pulling player wrestling  doesn't need VAR to sort Ref sees it and let's it go every week.
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No we can't all agree.

It's a excrement idea that's changing the whole context of the beautiful game.

Injustice is a huge part of football.  The was it/wasn't it issue with Geoff Hurst's goal against West Germany in 1966 kept the conversation going for decades about would we really have won without.  In modern terms, the injustice for Frank Lampard's goal against Germany in 2010 allowed people to have deluded belief that we would have turned it round in the second half had the goal counted.

Had Willy Puddy walked at Wembley in 2015 we might not have had Operation Promotion and with it the potential to sell-on Omar Bogle for a huge profit 18 months later (and subsequently waste it).  

It shapes conversations after the game and then for weeks and weeks after.   Football is a game played by humans, who are fallible.  Why remove that from the game? Be it a slight mistake or a huge one, it's part of the game.
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If VAR had been at BP last Saturday and somehow 'discovered' an infringement that meant County's winner had to be chalked off, don't get me wrong, I'd have cheered and felt a great sense of delight.

But I still don't want it at Town games.

And we have particularly crap refs at this level. Even their ineptitude isn't enough to change my mind on this.

Goal-line technology is great. That's a black and white thing. It's either in or it's not, and there are no arguments.

That's as far as I'd take technology in football. I can live with all the other indiscretions.


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It’s just a mirror into society that exists now of the it’s not fair brigade if something goes against you .
Referee mistakes are/were an integral part of the game that created the joy or pain if you ask me . With that taken away it’s just not the same .


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Quoted from promotion plaice

After it's initial teething problems can we all agree it was a good idea, I don't see many complaining about it now.

I was all for it from day one but many were against.


Quite possibly the best thing to ever happen to football, since the abolishment of goalkeepers being able to pick the ball up, or handle it, from a direct pass from their own player. In other words, what most people call the back pass law, which is a stupid thing to call it, because it doesn't only apply to back passes.

VAR is superb, and it is an improvement this season on the previous one.

I still think the offside law can at times make even VAR decisions difficult. I prefer the old law, where there has to be clear daylight between attacker and defender. All of this measuring toe nails is a bit stupid, but that's not VAR's fault, that it the offside law.
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Good idea, still don't think its being used as well as it could


I don't mind Roy Keane making £60,000 a week. I was making the same when I was playing. The only difference was I was printing my own - Mickey Thomas

The area you are trying to protect at corners is the goal - Chris Kamara

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