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Brazilnut
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Is on RH sports talk tonight talking about Towns start to season


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    Town have given me some of my highest highs and my lowest lows ........ God it is like a marriage
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do you know what time?
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It is on 1800 to 1900 not sure when he will be on


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thanks will be giving it a listen tonight
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Quoted from Brazilnut
Is on RH sports talk tonight talking about Towns start to season

Thanks for that Brazilnut, will give it a listen later.

No idea why you got a red cross, baffles me.



When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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A ‘Stella’ line up of guests tonight


After 6:30 JS is on


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Quoted from Brazilnut
It is on 1800 to 1900 not sure when he will be on


Matt just said in the next quarter of an hour or so
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What the feck did he just say about the glass in the Young's stand?


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What the feck did he just say about the glass in the Young's stand?


Someone was badgering him with questions about the glass within 3 seconds of the full time whistle at the Wrexham game.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Most interesting part was re: new training ground:

- About 2 months away from deciding on favoured site(s).
- Will announce favoured site as soon as feasibility discussions with the council are concluded.
- Long process still ahead to source funding, etc.
- Still committed to developing in the town centre.

Also, re: stadium:

- No need for new seating yet as the Osmond can be opened if necessary.
- If attendances keep rising, then new stadium discussions will have to be expedited.  Still not a priority (yet).
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Most interesting part was re: new training ground:

- About 2 months away from deciding on favoured site(s).
- Will announce favoured site (yet).


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I missed this, does anybody have a link for it please?
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I missed this, does anybody have a link for it please?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09wqqdf
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Not listening. Had no time for the bloke since he threatened to “put a nut on me” after I asked a perfectly reasonable question about the glass in the Upper Findus…


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Not listening. Had no time for the bloke since he threatened to “put a nut on me” after I asked a perfectly reasonable question about the glass in the Upper Findus…


What the intercourse happened?

I'm sure if you contacted him/the club he would contact you to discuss this and apologise.
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What the intercourse happened?

I'm sure if you contacted him/the club he would contact you to discuss this and apologise.


Just to be absolutely clear, it didn’t. It was just a shìt joke referencing JS’ apparent frustration that someone had tried to collar him about the new glass about three seconds after the final whistle against Wrexham.

I am sure he dealt with that situation politely and without threats of violence.


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Barrett's 😉


There or another site with facilities on it already that is probably better connected for those travelling in from afar I heard.
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What the intercourse happened?

I'm sure if you contacted him/the club he would contact you to discuss this and apologise.


Cmon arron i expected a man as witty as yourself could have spotted the sarcasm! 😅
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Cmon arron i expected a man as witty as yourself could have spotted the sarcasm! 😅


Sometimes I am slow on the uptake! 😂
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Quoted from MarinerDevil
Most interesting part was re: new training ground:

- About 2 months away from deciding on favoured site(s).
- Will announce favoured site as soon as feasibility discussions with the council are concluded.
- Long process still ahead to source funding, etc.
- Still committed to developing in the town centre.

Also, re: stadium:

- No need for new seating yet as the Osmond can be opened if necessary.
- If attendances keep rising, then new stadium discussions will have to be expedited.  Still not a priority (yet).


Not exciting for the fans as such, but a new training ground would be a fantastic move by the club.

As for the stadium, Stockwood is being clever here. That is effectively a call to arms - trying to will fans into BP and MAKE them build a new one. Clever, and it might just work. However, it’s not fooling everyone - BP is not fit for purpose, and Jason knows we need a new ground for the future even with the current fan base. I really hope it happens soon, but a new training ground will be a great start and a smart investment.
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On the no need to address Blundell Park capacity issue until it’s full my own view is most commentators are still a bit behind the curve on this one.
I have little doubt the next two matches will be sold out to home fans including any space available to home fans in the Osmond . We have won three more matches one 6-0 and gone top since the last 6k crowd decided to come along .I have seen a number of my age group who wouldn’t have dreamed of going to BP for the last 20 years asking me about the experience . Very boringly this includes questions like where will I be able to sit what’s the view like from there and even have the toilet facilities improved since I was last there. Difficult to give a positive response to those.Build it and offer good product and they will come!
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With the Osmond open for home fans we can accommodate around 8,000 fans. So no immediate capacity concerns apart from maybe the Notts County match.  
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With the Osmond open for home fans we can accommodate around 8,000 fans. So no immediate capacity concerns apart from maybe the Notts County match.  


We won’t have to wait long before we see who is right. My secondary point was that if the facilities were better many more would come. This is a football town albeit long dormant we should not constantly underestimate potential
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We won’t have to wait long before we see who is right. My secondary point was that if the facilities were better many more would come. This is a football town albeit long dormant we should not constantly underestimate potential


I agree with you.

I was trying to say that we should be ok in the short term. In the long term though I am all for a new stadium. See my last post a few minutes ago in the Plans for the Future  thread.
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At the risk of a thousand Red Crosses I thought JS sounded a bit flat generally in this interview . While I know it’s early days and we should not carried away etc etc in sport momentum is all.
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We won’t have to wait long before we see who is right. My secondary point was that if the facilities were better many more would come. This is a football town albeit long dormant we should not constantly underestimate potential


I don’t know if the idea that ‘many more would come if the facilities were better’ is a bit of a received idea really. I think some more would, but really, I think the idea that there are that many who aren’t interested in attending BP at the moment, with a really decent, entertaining, winning football team and new ownership regime, because it’s not a new/modern stadium is a bit flawed. Demand for tickets is high at BP. It might continue like that or it might decline, but I really don’t think that there are actually  ‘missing thousands’ who have a big enough bee in their bonnet about past failings or limitations in certain facilities at Blundell Park to stubbornly refuse to attend.

I think a cracking, bigger, more modern and imaginative well equipped new stadium would entice more people, maybe hundreds or even a couple of thousand ….but we’ve got an atmospheric, historic and unique traditional stadium that has much improved facilities, and a winning team. I think it’s encouraging to hear from the owners about potential to increase capacity if there is sufficient demand. If we continue like this, and the club realise there are 2,3, 5 or more thousand Town supporters who’d like to attend but can’t be accommodated, you watch the reaction in terms of both the existing and potential new ground.


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I don’t know if the idea that ‘many more would come if the facilities were better’ is a bit of a received idea really. I think some more would, but really, I think the idea that there are that many who aren’t interested in attending BP at the moment, with a really decent, entertaining, winning football team and new ownership regime, because it’s not a new/modern stadium is a bit flawed. Demand for tickets is high at BP. It might continue like that or it might decline, but I really don’t think that there are actually  ‘missing thousands’ who have a big enough bee in their bonnet about past failings or limitations in certain facilities at Blundell Park to stubbornly refuse to attend.

I think a cracking, bigger, more modern and imaginative well equipped new stadium would entice more people, maybe hundreds or even a couple of thousand ….but we’ve got an atmospheric, historic and unique traditional stadium that has much improved facilities, and a winning team. I think it’s encouraging to hear from the owners about potential to increase capacity if there is sufficient demand. If we continue like this, and the club realise there are 2,3, 5 or more thousand Town supporters who’d like to attend but can’t be accommodated, you watch the reaction in terms of both the existing and potential new ground.


To the will I or won’t  I returning fan facilities do matter . In the short term that means facilities at BP which could be improved. I believe there are 2,3 or 5000 extra potential attendees . At £40-£50k a game extra revenue from another 3000 beyond the current 6000 some short term investment in BP is the  fiirst priority . A new stadium will take years and is a separate project
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To the will I or won’t  I returning fan facilities do matter . In the short term that means facilities at BP which could be improved. I believe there are 2,3 or 5000 extra potential attendees . At £40-£50k a game extra revenue from another 3000 beyond the current 6000 some short term investment in BP is the  fiirst priority . A new stadium will take years and is a separate project


What evidence is there that suggests that up to 5000 are staying away because facilities don’t meet their expectations? Can you show us it…?


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What evidence is there that suggests that up to 5000 are staying away because facilities don’t meet their expectations? Can you show us it…?


If you read my posts I didn’t say that. It’s a factor and the 2-5 k extra is well on the way to being reached despite the facilities. Is that a reason to provide poor facilities?
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If you read my posts I didn’t say that. It’s a factor and the 2-5 k extra is well on the way to being reached despite the facilities. Is that a reason to provide poor facilities?


I did read your post, and now you’re missing your own point. You said you ‘believe’ there are ‘2,3 maybe 5000’ who would come if facilities were better. I’m just asking if you can show us any evidence at all that supports that belief, or are you, as seems more likely, just speculating…? If you can demonstrate some validity to the notion, I’m sure the owners will welcome that evidence.


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I did read your post, and now you’re missing your own point. You said you ‘believe’ there are ‘2,3 maybe 5000’ who would come if facilities were better. I’m just asking if you can show us any evidence at all that supports that belief, or are you, as seems more likely, just speculating…? If you can demonstrate some validity to the notion, I’m sure the owners will welcome that evidence.


It’s not necessarily a point I entirely agreed with, but having looked into it’s probably not as fanciful as it sounds. The likes of Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Reading, Hull and Swansea all experienced an uplift of 100%+ following stadium moves, whilst Preston have seen similar gains through the staggered redevelopment of Deepdale.

There are exceptions to the rule of course, but these are all clubs which had similar characteristics to Town and BP in one way or another.

In some cases, like Hull and Swansea, these stadium moves coincided with a surge up the leagues all the way to the top flight, which will of course had a positive effect on attendances. However, even as both clubs have fallen on tougher times, attendances remain far, far higher than at when at Boothferry Park and The Vetch respectively.

Huddersfield are an interesting case in that they moved to the McAlpine, almost won promotion to the Premier League before getting relegated into League Two. Even at that level, attendances were still higher than in their more recent Leeds Road days in the second tier.

Rotherham too, are another interesting one with crowds now consistently in and around the 5-figure mark despite historically getting crowds well below those of Town - around half in fact in the mid-nineties (which is maybe a little unfair given our respective fortunes during that period, but still).

The data’s all here if you’re interested (and it is mildly interesting):

https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/englandcontent.htm

I’ll be honest, I started out attempting to validate your position on this, however I’ve ended up doing the opposite. Done correctly, it seems that better facilities do have a measurable and long-lasting effect on attendances.

The key part of that last sentence is “done correctly”. The exceptions to the rule were generally flawed in some way, Darlington and Coventry the standouts. But I have every confidence in our new ownership to deliver a new stadium in the right way, and perhaps most importantly, in the right place. This was always my great worry with the various plans mooted over the last 20 or 30 years.


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Yep that’s good, that’s what I was getting at, and I do think more would come with a new stadium on that basis, presuming that would be coupled to some sort of achievement on the pitch - being in the EFL and also being demonstrably progressive, I’m just not sure there are thousands who aren’t coming to BP at present, despite how ace it is as an overall football experience, because they think it’s antiquated and/or ill equipped.

Since the original notion was seemingly mostly supposition and anecdotal/hearsay, I reckon most people who are able to attend BP probably do right now. I agree a new stadium will attract others and your evidence supports that, I was just asking for something tangible to the effect that there was some piece of local research that had asked residents if they attended home games and if not, why not. All of the factual examples Poojah has provided give a plausible proposition that we might expect something similar, but that’s quite a separate point to the idea that there are thousands of disgruntled would-be or ex-fans going ‘I know we’re doing really well, but I’m just not going to Blundell Park again until I can wander about an identikit, logo-strewn concourse, sit further away from the pitch and get a decent latte!


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Yep that’s good, that’s what I was getting at, and I do think more would come with a new stadium on that basis, presuming that would be coupled to some sort of achievement on the pitch - being in the EFL and also being demonstrably progressive, I’m just not sure there are thousands who aren’t coming to BP at present, despite how ace it is as an overall football experience, because they think it’s antiquated and/or ill equipped.

Since the original notion was seemingly mostly supposition and anecdotal/hearsay, I reckon most people who are able to attend BP probably do right now. I agree a new stadium will attract others and your evidence supports that, I was just asking for something tangible to the effect that there was some piece of local research that had asked residents if they attended home games and if not, why not. All of the factual examples Poojah has provided give a plausible proposition that we might expect something similar, but that’s quite a separate point to the idea that there are thousands of disgruntled would-be or ex-fans going ‘I know we’re doing really well, but I’m just not going to Blundell Park again until I can wander about an identikit, logo-strewn concourse, sit further away from the pitch and get a decent latte!


Yeah, of course that kind of research needs doing, and no doubt it will be done when the time is right. I do recall something similar being done in the Conoco era, but it'd be well out of date now even if the results were available somewhere.

I know you were tongue in cheek in your closing comment there, but I do think it's important that should we ever end up in a new ground, that it is not a soulless, identikit affair with large gaps separating fans from the pitch and a sea of breezeblocks for a concourse. I understand that architectural finesse adds to the build cost and we're never going to end up with a miniature version of Spurs' new ground, but there are examples of smaller, less expensive stadia that have personality and their own unique features. Again though, I at least now have the confidence that our leadership 'gets' that such considerations have value, potentially even financial in the long-term, over and above going for the cheapest possible option.


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I wander how much FGR’s proposed stadium costs relative to its size. Is something a bit different to the usual breeze block that much more expensive? When you think how long the stadium is there is it a lot of money? Genuine question.

Anyone with any background in this field?


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I always think Rotherham’s stadium is a really good example of what to go for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=blAa8nbSyXM


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I always think Rotherham’s stadium is a really good example of what to go for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=blAa8nbSyXM


Not seen that before. I like that. Asymmetrical in more than one way if you know what I mean. I like the stepped roof levels on one side. I guess the whole thing has been looked at from the point of view of sun angles too.

If we could have something with a bit more of our heritage around the place. The cladding outside maybe something reminiscent of the Msin Stand. Something that suggests the shape of a ship like this

https://images.app.goo.gl/eo9pbpxzm1ypPimN9



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Not seen that before. I like that. Asymmetrical in more than one way if you know what I mean. I like the stepped roof levels on one side. I guess the whole thing has been looked at from the point of view of sun angles too.

If we could have something with a bit more of our heritage around the place. The cladding outside maybe something reminiscent of the Msin Stand. Something that suggests the shape of a ship like this

https://images.app.goo.gl/eo9pbpxzm1ypPimN9



I’m getting carried away now. 😆


Too much pop or men in white coats?



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I think Brentford’s new stadium is impressive and is a fine example of building something that’s useful and modern but also realistic for their growth.

Better facilities will mean an uplift, it makes no sense to me because I couldn’t care less about where I was town but for some, and in the 21st century, people simply want more for the money.

I think the key thing is, it’s safe to say that the new owners won’t rush this, they won’t spunk thousands chasing a pipe dream in places that will never happen, they won’t look to bring companies like Extreme in (literally everyone expect Fenty and co saw they were cowboys) and they’ll ensure that it’s a sustainable project. They’ve already shown that they engage with fans and seek advice and guidance so there’s nothing to suggest they won’t on this matter either…

It’ll come when the time is right…


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I always think Rotherham’s stadium is a really good example of what to go for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=blAa8nbSyXM


From Google maps it seems to be in a good location with car parks nearby and central to the town, something 1878 want. On a sad note, it's not far from Millmoor where they use to play.

£17 million is given as the cost and 2 years to build from 2010 - 2012. It's also worth mentioning that they did spend 4 years at the Don Valley stadium while they had to find a new home, at least we don't have that problem.



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I wander how much FGR’s proposed stadium costs relative to its size. Is something a bit different to the usual breeze block that much more expensive? When you think how long the stadium is there is it a lot of money? Genuine question.

Anyone with any background in this field?


Dale Vince isn’t an idiot. He’s got a small football stadium sized plot of land in a prime residential development area which could accommodate around 200 units and he’s going to sell that off and build a stadium next to the M5 J13 where land is cheap. He might be a vegan but he has a good business brain. Building with treated would can’t be that cost inhibited as Tesco went through a phase of part building with wood before they stopped their expansion drive around 10 years ago.
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the way things are going , we could make a real statement with the world's first 3d laser printed stadium

https://www.gcoportal.com/worl.....eks-of-construction/
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Good to see several people hitting the nail on the head…

BP puts potential fans off. It’s a dump. The casual fan can’t buy a decent ticket with a good view.

There’s no reason we couldn’t get regular 10k plus crowds if we had a nice new stadium with good views from every seat. Especially if we move through the divisions.

Jason & Andrew know this but they aren’t going to go down the Fenty route of promising the world and delivering nothing. When (not if) a new stadium is announced it will be when all pre-planning permission boxes have been ticked (location, funding & contractor).

I think we should be looking at a 13-14,000 seat stadium built with possible future expansion in mind. And built so that away allocations can easily be altered to accommodate more home fans easily.
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Would the cladding have the patched holes that used to be used for carrier pigeon transmission of the score for the Saturday late papers? (or am I being misled as to what the current patches were for?)


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Quoted from GollyGTFC
Good to see several people hitting the nail on the head…

BP puts potential fans off. It’s a dump. The casual fan can’t buy a decent ticket with a good view.

There’s no reason we couldn’t get regular 10 figure crowds if we had a nice new stadium with good views from every seat. Especially if we move through the divisions.

Jason & Andrew know this but they aren’t going to go down the Fenty route of promising the world and delivering nothing. When (not if) a new stadium is announced it will be when all pre-planning permission boxes have been ticked (location, funding & contractor).

I think we should be looking at a 13-14,000 seat stadium built with possible future expansion in mind. And built so that away allocations can easily be altered to accommodate more home fans easily.


10 figure crowds. Wow! We really are going places!!
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10 figure crowds. Wow! We really are going places!!


Indeed. A stadium that holds a billion fans would be quite something.
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It’s not just the potential of home fans though. Away fans quite possibly wouldn’t want to travel. Say, for example, town were to play a team that’s a mid distance away, such as Oxford, Walsall, Wycombe etc and it’s a mid table clash, how many supporters would be thinking:  nah it’s not for me, am not spending a day travelling to sit in ‘that sh1thole’. Am sure many of us have had similar thoughts:

Why are we only looking at football grounds for inspiration? These are some really good (IMO)  looking non football stadia:

http://stadiumdb.com/news/2014/02/nomination_stade_jean_bouin

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wik....._pano_Ellis_Park.jpg

https://travelwithdrone.com/basaksehir-fatih-terim-stadium/


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When it comes to watching GTFC away from home, the shittier the better as far as I'm concerned!

A much better time going to games at Welling and Boreham Wood than Donny and not just because of the results!

I've seen us play at plenty of big, fancy stadiums with nothing to differentiate themselves from most of the others so smaller ones with a bit of quirk are more interesting to me. That said, I've not had the chance to go to an away game for quite a few years now. Hopefully, I'll have the opportunity to visit a couple next year.
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Quoted from DB


Too much pop or men in white coats?



One thing leads to the other 😃


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Quoted from GollyGTFC
Good to see several people hitting the nail on the head…

BP puts potential fans off. It’s a dump. The casual fan can’t buy a decent ticket with a good view.

There’s no reason we couldn’t get regular 10 figure crowds if we had a nice new stadium with good views from every seat. Especially if we move through the divisions.

Jason & Andrew know this but they aren’t going to go down the Fenty route of promising the world and delivering nothing. When (not if) a new stadium is announced it will be when all pre-planning permission boxes have been ticked (location, funding & contractor).

I think we should be looking at a 13-14,000 seat stadium built with possible future expansion in mind. And built so that away allocations can easily be altered to accommodate more home fans easily.


I’m sure you don’t mean that.

1,000,000,000 people coming to watch Town. Not even Councillor Dorkin [sic.] is that optimistic  😄


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10 figure crowds. Wow! We really are going places!!


The view from the back of the stand is going to be really terrible though. You'll need binoculars.
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Quoted from forza ivano
the way things are going , we could make a real statement with the world's first 3d laser printed stadium

https://www.gcoportal.com/worl.....eks-of-construction/


How big is the printer? 😂
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How big is the printer? 😂


As big as we want, because the printer can be printed to scale.


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Someone was badgering him with questions about the glass within 3 seconds of the full time whistle at the Wrexham game.


What questions? Unnecessary expenditure when squad strengthening should be the priority? Safety i.e. shatter resistance?

It would be nice if the owners gave us a clue as to what is going on with regard to relocation. For example:

"We have thanked the Freemen for their enthusiasm and patience, but feel most fans would not want to park on the East Marsh."

or

"The old fish dock is our preferred site, and we continue to negotiate with ABP."

or

"We have informed the council that Grimsby West represents the best chance to deliver a new stadium."

or

"League One is our natural level, and so the existing 9,000 capacity is adequate."

It is nearly three years since the high rise flats were demolished. I hoped we would create a 'modern' Blundell Park at Freemo, close enough to Freshney Place for park and ride or park and walk. Alas, I get the impression most people would prefer a vast car park on the western outskirts of town.

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What questions? Unnecessary expenditure when squad strengthening should be the priority? Safety i.e. shatter resistance?

It would be nice if the owners gave us a clue as to what is going on with regard to relocation. For example:

"We have thanked the Freemen for their enthusiasm and patience, but feel most fans would not want to park on the East Marsh."

or

"The old fish dock is our preferred site, and we continue to negotiate with ABP."

or

"We have informed the council that Grimsby West represents the best chance to deliver a new stadium."

or

"League One is our natural level, and so the existing 9,000 capacity is adequate."

It is nearly three years since the high rise flats were demolished. I hoped we would create a 'modern' Blundell Park at Freemo, close enough to Freshney Place for park and ride or park and walk. Alas, I get the impression most people would prefer a vast car park on the western outskirts of town.



As we all know they inherited BP in wonderful condition and it didn't need anything doing to it to bring it up to anything like an acceptable standard.
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What questions? Unnecessary expenditure when squad strengthening should be the priority? Safety i.e. shatter resistance?

It would be nice if the owners gave us a clue as to what is going on with regard to relocation. For example:

"We have thanked the Freemen for their enthusiasm and patience, but feel most fans would not want to park on the East Marsh."

or

"The old fish dock is our preferred site, and we continue to negotiate with ABP."

or

"We have informed the council that Grimsby West represents the best chance to deliver a new stadium."

or

"League One is our natural level, and so the existing 9,000 capacity is adequate."

It is nearly three years since the high rise flats were demolished. I hoped we would create a 'modern' Blundell Park at Freemo, close enough to Freshney Place for park and ride or park and walk. Alas, I get the impression most people would prefer a vast car park on the western outskirts of town.



you epic bell end. Friend of fenty?
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you epic bell end. Friend of fenty?


No, I'm not a friend of Fenty, far from it. Do you know where the new stadium will be, or where Stockwood wants it to be?

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No, I'm not a friend of Fenty, far from it. Do you know where the new stadium will be, or where Stockwood wants it to be?



They arent planning on one yet.
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No, I'm not a friend of Fenty, far from it. Do you know where the new stadium will be, or where Stockwood wants it to be?




There have been many times where they have been asked about a stadium and each time they've said it's not a priority now and they have many other things they're working on eg a new training facility, which they've said they will be making a decision on where that will be fairly soon, maybe 2 months.

More recently, with increased attendances, they've said a new stadium is still not a priority but they will keep monitoring the situation.

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As we all know they inherited BP in wonderful condition and it didn't need anything doing to it to bring it up to anything like an acceptable standard.


So it wasn't just to improve visibility, you're saying the railings were dangerously corroded and glass was cheaper than metal?

It would be great if people simply answered questions without sarcasm or insults.

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There have been many times where they have been asked about a stadium and each time they've said it's not a priority now and they have many other things they're working on eg a new training facility, which they've said they will be making a decision on where that will be fairly soon, maybe 2 months.

More recently, with increased attendances, they've said a new stadium is still not a priority but they will keep monitoring the situation.



I'm well aware of the club's official line, but Stockwood and Pettit must have some personal thoughts on the matter. I just hope the apparent lack of urgency doesn't come back to haunt us.

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Keep up Shorty - they have made it abundantly clear that a new stadium is not currently on the agenda.
Hence improvements to BP are ongoing.
A training facility within the community is on the agenda & seems to be progressing.
JSF 'loans' are being repaid.
Most of us, I think, are more than happy (ecstatic) with the progress made to date both on & off the pitch.
Patience my son, you'll get your new stadium - but not for the best part of some time yet.
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Couldn't they just rebuild parts of Blundell Park? Parking aside, I think its a really charming ground with a traditional feel to it.
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Quoted from White_shorts


What questions? Unnecessary expenditure when squad strengthening should be the priority? Safety i.e. shatter resistance?

It would be nice if the owners gave us a clue as to what is going on with regard to relocation. For example:

"We have thanked the Freemen for their enthusiasm and patience, but feel most fans would not want to park on the East Marsh."

or

"The old fish dock is our preferred site, and we continue to negotiate with ABP."

or

"We have informed the council that Grimsby West represents the best chance to deliver a new stadium."

or

"League One is our natural level, and so the existing 9,000 capacity is adequate."

It is nearly three years since the high rise flats were demolished. I hoped we would create a 'modern' Blundell Park at Freemo, close enough to Freshney Place for park and ride or park and walk. Alas, I get the impression most people would prefer a vast car park on the western outskirts of town.



Mr White Shorts losing the plot as he watches his potential windfall go up in smoke.
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We appear to now have 2 threads about a new stadium, can we merge them?


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Quoted from TinklerMan
Couldn't they just rebuild parts of Blundell Park? Parking aside, I think its a really charming ground with a traditional feel to it.


The Main Stand and Osmond are dilapidated fire hazards.

The Upper Findus is dangerous due to the inadequate ingress and egress.

The Pontoon is a bit small, but in no immediate need of upgrading.

Three corners are open. There’s not even any terracing on which to put any seats or rail seating.

BP would need a complete rebuild, it would cost a fortune and still be pretty naff.
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So it wasn't just to improve visibility, you're saying the railings were dangerously corroded and glass was cheaper than metal?

It would be great if people simply answered questions without sarcasm or insults.



Who said anything was dangerous? Forgive me for being a bit la-di-da but I expect to be able to see the pitch if I go to a football match. And if replacing the metal railing has improved the visibility (which it has) for a large number of seats then it's worth the money. It shows the fans and their match day experience is actually valued by the current custodians.
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The Main Stand and Osmond are dilapidated fire hazards.

The Upper Findus is dangerous due to the inadequate ingress and egress.

The Pontoon is a bit small, but in no immediate need of upgrading.

Three corners are open. There’s not even any terracing on which to put any seats or rail seating.

BP would need a complete rebuild, it would cost a fortune and still be pretty naff.


But besides that, what exactly is the problem with the idea 🙂
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Who said anything was dangerous? Forgive me for being a bit la-di-da but I expect to be able to see the pitch if I go to a football match. And if replacing the metal railing has improved the visibility (which it has) for a large number of seats then it's worth the money. It shows the fans and their match day experience is actually valued by the current custodians.


Absolutely this!

I sit in the bottom rows and the view is greatly enhanced. No longer is my seat classed as a restricted view seat and that was the whole point of the glass barrier.
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The glass barrier is surely a gesture that they recognise that fans should get the best possible experience? When it was put in it seemed such a sensible and logical thing…


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I'm well aware of the club's official line, but Stockwood and Pettit must have some personal thoughts on the matter. I just hope the apparent lack of urgency doesn't come back to haunt us.



We're just emerging from a period of over 15 years of moribund ownership and you're already accusing the new regime of a lack of urgency ?

Unbelievable.



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I'm well aware of the club's official line, but Stockwood and Pettit must have some personal thoughts on the matter. I just hope the apparent lack of urgency doesn't come back to haunt us.



Yeah, maybe they’ll share those personal thoughts in a rambling, Riesling fuelled rant at 2am on The Fishy.
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Yeah, maybe they’ll share those personal thoughts in a rambling, Riesling fuelled rant at 2am on The Fishy.


Or be recorded secretly in the back of a Ford Mondeo…or ring Humberside half cut…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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