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I Yes we all want promotion. Yes we all want success. But are you telling me you want him sacked if wee finish 2nd playing loverly football and lose in the play off final? (for example)
I presume this reply was aimed at me You didn't do a quote however I have read my post again and can't find any reference to Hurst being sacked If you recall I opposed Hurst's re-appointment as I considered it a retrograde step and an opportunity missed for a completely fresh start to go with the fresh start of the new owners I am enjoying the football at the moment as much as the next person, of course I am, but success and promotion back to the Football League is more important than anything, its all that matters in my view. Lovely (or loverly as you put it) football is of secondary importance. Scruffy 1-0 wins and lucky draws will do providing we go back up and losing in the playoff final is coming second and therefore failure in my opinion. I don't necessarily want him sacked at all, if the new owners are not that ambitious and are satisfied with being near the top in non-league but playing attractive football then who am I to argue (it keps the money coming in) but I will maintain that an opportunity was missed and appointing Hurst was a retrograde step. Until then I am enjoying it as much as you are, currently I am being proved very wrong and I am pleased to be.
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October 10, 2021, 10:51am |
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Think we have to bear in mind how tough this league is and success and failure are not black and white. Surely it's possible to be relatively successful and still be in this division next season The club is rebuilding after a disastrous 20 year period and I had little hope of getting back in the league at the first attempt. If we're 10 points clear in April and don't do that would be relative failure mind you
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I am very willing to concede that no problem as things stand right now it's fantastic and well done to Hurst. Not only have we got a superb footballing side but the fans are enjoying it which is what it is all about, its supposed to be an entertainment.
However I want to see where we are in May before I change my mind about his appointment, for me final league position is the most important factor every time. An entertaining defeat in the playoffs won't cut it for me
Absolutely ridiculous post. I was in the same place at the start of the season I didn’t want Hurst back. I didn’t want to endure the negative tactics, the constant tinkering of players and formations, antagonism with sections of the fans and I honestly didn’t think we would be serious contenders this season. Just like you Swim I got this completely wrong, 11 games in and Hurst and his management team have achieved so much more than I could of imagined. The football has been anything but negative, he has given us a team to be proud of again (t’s been a long time to say this) his rapport with the fans has been excellent and I know we are winning but even last season he seemed happy to be here, he has brought the fans together, I’ve never seen so many kids wearing their Town kits with pride around the local pitches! So for me even with promotion being the ultimate goal if it does go pear shaped (which it won’t) the new owners still made the right decision.
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October 10, 2021, 11:01am |
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Think we have to bear in mind how tough this league is and success and failure are not black and white. Surely it's possible to be relatively successful and still be in this division next season The club is rebuilding after a disastrous 20 year period and I had little hope of getting back in the league at the first attempt. If we're 10 points clear in April and don't do that would be relative failure mind you
Grimsby Town in the National league is unacceptable. League two isn't acceptable either.
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Ipswin |
October 10, 2021, 11:04am |
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Absolutely ridiculous post. I was in the same place at the start of the season I didn’t want Hurst back. I didn’t want to endure the negative tactics, the constant tinkering of players and formations, antagonism with sections of the fans and I honestly didn’t think we would be serious contenders this season.
Just like you Swim I got this completely wrong, 11 games in and Hurst and his management team have achieved so much more than I could of imagined. The football has been anything but negative, he has given us a team to be proud of again (t’s been a long time to say this) his rapport with the fans has been excellent and I know we are winning but even last season he seemed happy to be here, he has brought the fans together, I’ve never seen so many kids wearing their Town kits with pride around the local pitches! So for me even with promotion being the ultimate goal if it does go pear shaped (which it won’t) the new owners still made the right decision.
It all depends on what you want I suppose A team to be proud of, rapport with the fans, kids in Town shirts and non league football are not my priorities Lets all hope that things carry on as they are now and everybody (even me) will be happy
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Humbercod |
October 10, 2021, 11:11am |
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It all depends on what you want I suppose
A team to be proud of, rapport with the fans, kids in Town shirts and non league football are not my priorities
Lets all hope that things carry on as they are now and everybody (even me) will be happy
No Town wants to be in this league but many at the start of the season were resigned to be down here for a good few years, was there another manager realistically then who you thought of that would of taken us straight back up?
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Ipswin |
October 10, 2021, 11:18am |
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No Town wants to be in this league but many at the start of the season were resigned to be down here for a good few years, was there another manager realistically then who you thought of that would of taken us straight back up?
I've been asked that many times and I give the same reply - I don't know! I don't know because the job was not advertised so we did not have the benefit of seeing who the applicants were. Had we had a list I would have given you my choice. My main point was that if the new owners has pushed the boat out salary wise who knows who might have applied?
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Humbercod |
October 10, 2021, 11:22am |
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I've been asked that many times and I give the same reply - I don't know!
I don't know because the job was not advertised so we did not have the benefit of seeing who the applicants were. Had we had a list I would have given you my choice. My main point was that if the new owners has pushed the boat out salary wise who knows who might have applied?
No I didn’t think so 🙄
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October 10, 2021, 11:28am |
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I seem to recall we had a manager, Mick Lyons, who had the phrase " Grimsby Grit" which his teams never had. We now seem to have that!
Calling Mick Lyons a 'manager' is stretching things a bit. A 'butcher' would be a better description, because that's what he did to the decent Town side we had then.
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October 10, 2021, 11:43am |
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Absolutely ridiculous post. I was in the same place at the start of the season I didn’t want Hurst back. I didn’t want to endure the negative tactics, the constant tinkering of players and formations, antagonism with sections of the fans and I honestly didn’t think we would be serious contenders this season.
Just like you Swim I got this completely wrong, 11 games in and Hurst and his management team have achieved so much more than I could of imagined. The football has been anything but negative, he has given us a team to be proud of again (t’s been a long time to say this) his rapport with the fans has been excellent and I know we are winning but even last season he seemed happy to be here, he has brought the fans together, I’ve never seen so many kids wearing their Town kits with pride around the local pitches! So for me even with promotion being the ultimate goal if it does go pear shaped (which it won’t) the new owners still made the right decision.
Sit down for this. I agree*. I wasn’t against Hurst coming back, FL survival is a different thing to NL promotion, but I was a big critic of Hurst Mk I got the same reasons as you. I’m chuffed to bits and a bit surprised with Hurst Mk II. * Well apart from the opening sentence, I don’t agree with Swin but I don’t think it’s a ridiculous post. Just his opinion.
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