The Ref

Quoted from Tommy

Probably the unpopular opinion but I don't see how we could argue it wasn't a yellow card.

Maringer has just posted what the laws of the game say on this, and Bapaga is comfortably closer than 2m, and jumps up in front of their guy.

It might seem harsh, especially compared to some other things that don't get punished. But its an easy call for the ref to make. Bapaga is an inexperienced player, probably on a high after scoring again, hell learn from it.

Great win tonight.

It looked a foul throw as well - one foot in the air as he tried to throw it as hard as he could at Bapagas head.

Anyway, all well that ends well but had that decision cost us this thread would run to 30 plus pages.

Quoted from Tommy

Probably the unpopular opinion but I don't see how we could argue it wasn't a yellow card.

Maringer has just posted what the laws of the game say on this, and Bapaga is comfortably closer than 2m, and jumps up in front of their guy.

It might seem harsh, especially compared to some other things that don't get punished. But its an easy call for the ref to make. Bapaga is an inexperienced player, probably on a high after scoring again, hell learn from it.

Great win tonight.

It’s definitely in the rule book but so is taking a throw in from the spot the ball left the pitch and players who are pulled going off from the nearest point rather than wasting time waking to the bench, my frustration is that sometimes refs seem to choose what rules to apply.

Ironic though considering he admitted that the ball was stopped from going into the net by a hand but their player was too close to ours to be handball.

The assessor will be cracking them out all night after that sending off.

Has anyone seen a player booked before for jumping in front of a throw in? Can't ever remember ever seeing it happen before, just our luck to be the first.

Did bapaga handle the ball?

Quoted from buckstown

Did bapaga handle the ball?

No. The ball went out with Bapaga on the touchline. Their lad picked up the ball as quickly as he could before Bapaga could move away and threw it as hard as he could at Bapaga's head. Instinctively he jumped and the ball hit him on the head.

In my opinion it should have been a yellow for their man for unsporting behaviour. And it was a foul throw.

Whatever the rights and wrongs the ref should have had more sense when he knew it would mean a sending off. It looked like he enjoyed it though to be honest.

So is this the first ever Yellow Card for Failure to Social Distance !!!!

Could easily have gone the other way as the ball was thrown directly at Bapaga's head - violent conduct.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

No. The ball went out with Bapaga on the touchline. Their lad picked up the ball as quickly as he could before Bapaga could move away and threw it as hard as he could at Bapaga's head. Instinctively he jumped and the ball hit him on the head.

In my opinion it should have been a yellow for their man for unsporting behaviour. And it was a foul throw.

Whatever the rights and wrongs the ref should have had more sense when he knew it would mean a sending off. It looked like he enjoyed it though to be honest.

A ridiculous decision. He applies the law so strictly in that case but ignores the law on a clear handball in the box? This ref made two decisions which were hugely advantageous to Altringham. A terrible performance. Just like the idiotic decision not to send the Dover player off on Saturday.

Thankfully we are so good that we can prevail even when having to overcome such pathetically incompetent and cowardly refereeing. I would hope that the club could make some kind of official complaint regarding this evenings shambolic officiating.        

Unpopular opinion but I think the refs got both decisions correct. Taylor’s DOGSO on Saturday was 50 yards out on an angle that has to be taken into consideration. With a defender level with him and in a straight line to goal rather than at an angle the ref has to make a decision if Taylor will get to a goal scoring opportunity (say the penalty spot) before the defender gets the cover on. You cannot say in a 35 yard race a player with the ball will definitely beat one without, so yellow card.
By the letter of the law Bapaga jumped which is a caution so after one in the first half the ref cannot apply common sense, he has to apply the law. We would be howling if the ref doesn’t do this in our favour. There’s a close up on Twitter and it’s not a foul throw, both feet are on the ground I’m afraid and in the wide shot there are two Altrincham players about 5 yards away so it looks like he’s trying to throw it quickly to them rather than into Bapaga. If Bapaga doesn’t jump, in my opinion, he doesn’t get cautioned. Jumping makes the decision for the ref.
Bring on the red crosses but I think we need to be a little more reflective here and not go the way of other “big clubs” and think the world is against us as it invariably turns out that way if you start to have a persecution complex!

I think the key here is that if they happened the other way around we’d expect and want the decisions made, leniency on the DOGSO and a second yellow for the throw in.

UTM

Quoted from LN8Mariner

Unpopular opinion but I think the refs got both decisions correct. Taylor’s DOGSO on Saturday was 50 yards out on an angle that has to be taken into consideration. With a defender level with him and in a straight line to goal rather than at an angle the ref has to make a decision if Taylor will get to a goal scoring opportunity (say the penalty spot) before the defender gets the cover on. You cannot say in a 35 yard race a player with the ball will definitely beat one without, so yellow card.
By the letter of the law Bapaga jumped which is a caution so after one in the first half the ref cannot apply common sense, he has to apply the law. We would be howling if the ref doesn’t do this in our favour. There’s a close up on Twitter and it’s not a foul throw, both feet are on the ground I’m afraid and in the wide shot there are two Altrincham players about 5 yards away so it looks like he’s trying to throw it quickly to them rather than into Bapaga. If Bapaga doesn’t jump, in my opinion, he doesn’t get cautioned. Jumping makes the decision for the ref.
Bring on the red crosses but I think we need to be a little more reflective here and not go the way of other “big clubs” and think the world is against us as it invariably turns out that way if you start to have a persecution complex!

I think the key here is that if they happened the other way around we’d expect and want the decisions made, leniency on the DOGSO and a second yellow for the throw in.

UTM

I definitely agree with you on the Bapaga incident. If Will jumped to block it, then it’s a second yellow card. Youthful exuberance and no damage done.  

The Taylor incident must have been close to a red card in as far as the defender made no attempt to play the ball. The other Dover centre-back was asleep and wasn’t covering. As you say, it was at a wide angle and 50 yards from goal so I can understand why the ref interpreted that it was not a DOGSO. Extremely cynical though. I’m not necessarily a fan of the sin-bin idea but that was definitely a prime candidate for a temporary spell on the sidelines.