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He must have put both companies into administration. It was in a statement from them and definitely mentioned that they're separate entities
No, Mel Morris has just assured the administrators that he will give the first option to buy Pride Park to any preferred bidder named by them. What if Mel Morris asks for the same amount he paid DCFC for Pride Park? £80m wasn’t it?
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Derby has better hope that the estimated £150 million that Morris has reputedly lost isn’t just ‘benign loans’ !! They’d struggle to pay that off within 3 seasons non-league.
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I think this bid will collapse. The yanks will want that stadium, for starters. It’s horrible for their fans, but for the good of the game I hope they are liquidated, THEN football as a whole, particularly in The Championship, might wake up from the current mess it denies it’s in.
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I think this bid will collapse. The yanks will want that stadium, for starters.
It’s horrible for their fans, but for the good of the game I hope they are liquidated, THEN football as a whole, particularly in The Championship, might wake up from the current mess it denies it’s in.
It’s tough one, as a fan I’d be broken if my club went to the wall, as will derby fans. There’s also an alternative view that when derby were clearly over spending and chasing a dream that never materialised again, they were still happy and not asking any questions. I’m sure some were but I’d imagine they were the minority. Personally, I think they should go, they deserve any punishment headed their way and excrement as it might be, it could, albeit too late, restore some credibility to the game…
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I've got a friend who is a Derby fan, for this reason I hope they go under.
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I think you're right, I'm not 100% sure, but I now seem to recall they didn't have a fixture that day?
I think the sensible thing to say is the majority of fans from clubs are decent people, and only a minority of idiots from clubs are trouble. I wonder how many Port Vale thugs went on the riot here the other year, Mansfield tried to cause a lot of trouble down Grimsby Road the other year as well.
The Derby "fans" at Alfreton were on banning orders which according to police at the time didn't filter down to non-league.
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It’s tough one, as a fan I’d be broken if my club went to the wall, as will derby fans. There’s also an alternative view that when derby were clearly over spending and chasing a dream that never materialised again, they were still happy and not asking any questions. I’m sure some were but I’d imagine they were the minority.
Personally, I think they should go, they deserve any punishment headed their way and excrement as it might be, it could, albeit too late, restore some credibility to the game…
I always think it’s harsh to hit the fans over the head with hindsight. Your average fan isn’t going to be skilled in or inclined to forensically investigate the club’s ongoing finances, and for the most part clubs will exude a “nothing to see here, folks” attitude - they simply deny there is anything to worry about until such a time it can no longer be denied. The ones who do ask questions, what are they meant to do? Boycotts, protests and keyboard warrior-ing rarely do much to enact serious change. If Derby fans are at fault for their predicament, then so are Town fans for what has happened to this club over the last 20 years. Of course, I don’t feel that’s the case for a millisecond - 99.9% of the fault lays squarely with the owners in cases like this. I find it hard to see it from any other perspective than the Derby fans’ perspective. If the club goes under, it’s a tragic day for them and their city. I can’t bring myself to wish the death of their club on them, be it for the greater good or not.
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I always think it’s harsh to hit the fans over the head with hindsight. Your average fan isn’t going to be skilled in or inclined to forensically investigate the club’s ongoing finances, and for the most part clubs will exude a “nothing to see here, folks” attitude - they simply deny there is anything to worry about until such a time it can no longer be denied.
The ones who do ask questions, what are they meant to do? Boycotts, protests and keyboard warrior-ing rarely do much to enact serious change.
If Derby fans are at fault for their predicament, then so are Town fans for what has happened to this club over the last 20 years. Of course, I don’t feel that’s the case for a millisecond - 99.9% of the fault lays squarely with the owners in cases like this.
I find it hard to see it from any other perspective than the Derby fans’ perspective. If the club goes under, it’s a tragic day for them and their city. I can’t bring myself to wish the death of their club on them, be it for the greater good or not.
The club wouldn’t die though would they? Like Rangers in Scotland, they’ll just have to restart at the bottom. While I appreciate that is a few tiers lower than Rangers reformed in Scotland it would set a dangerous precedent if rules are bent or totally ignored. It would setup English football for another Leicester City: For those who don’t remember or are too young, they went into administration in 2002, didn’t pay any of their creditors (including the company who built their new stadium) and kept Muzzy Izzet on £40,000 a week and got promoted straight back up to the Premier League. The insolvency rules need tightening, not relaxing.
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Totally agree with that Golly these clubs never really die they just start over several levels down the pyramid. Wycombe have a right to be fuming they've worked within the rules and paid a heavy price for another teams ignorance of those rules.
MPs piling in on the EFL here is diverting responsibility from those who have made the transgressions. It's not the fans fault, and it's a difficult one for them to stomach, but they are a pretty big ub and would make their way back through the pyramid soon enough.
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