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Middlesbrough and Wycombe are holding it up by wanting compensation for missing out on play offs and getting relegated at the expense of Derby. Seems pretty futile to me. Although there is some precedent in Sheff Utd getting paid off by West Ham after they broke the rules with Tevez and Mascherano signings. It was settled out of court though, so not sure a court is going to rule in favour when they've already been punished by the league.
Wycombe’s case is spot on. Derby deliberately held back publishing their revised accounts to after this season started to avoid being put in League 1 this season. The EFL published an interchangeable fixture list for that reason and Derby played the system (again). And don’t believe the rubbish that this is the issue. A new owner will have to pay off around £50-60 in debt within 2 years with the club probably in L1 next season with the club owning no assets (Mel Morris owns Pride Park and the training ground). Add on to that the new owner will have to fund on going losses from the day they bought the club. Who on earth is going to buy them? That Turkish bloke bought Hull City for around £30m. Why would someone buy Derby when you can get a solvent club for half the price? Unless Mel Morris puts the company that owns Pride Park and the training ground into administration Derby County are doomed. If he did that the administrator could package them with the club and give a new owner some assets to go with basically just buying the name Derby County. Doing that would make the club a viable business in the longer term.
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I found it quite interesting that Preston had bought and moved into Wigan's training ground; it almost struck me as a bit parasitic under the circumstances. Then I learned that Wigan had actually nabbed it off Bolton when they first got into financial difficulty; some serious recycling going on there.
or a helping hand if it kept them afloat.
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Think we were told at least two separate groups had come in to buy the club, but the previous custodians didn’t fancy what was on the table. I think one of them ended up buying Wycombe?
Given what’s emerged in recent months, you have to wonder what it was that caused negotiations to collapse. The insistence on siphoning future transfer fees? Wanting millions paid up in full to the detriment of the football club?
Who knows just how many chances we had to get rid of the worst - literally, the WORST - custodian who has ever sat in the chair, but were knocked back for personal or financial reasons.
Nevermind eh.
Rob Couhig (now Wycombe owner) did come and have a look around the club but didn’t fancy it due to the state of the place and terms of sale- I believe he’s been generous since and said it was purely geography that put him off. Mark Palmer was acting as his advisor and he was then used initially by 1878 when they were putting together their takeover (both with Shutes and then without him).
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I hope they get liquidated. None of their fans shed a tear for anyone else when they were swizzing their way through the season with bent stadium and sponsorship deals. If they’d gone up under Lampard they’d be in the Prem and would effectively be untouchable, as they knew, sooooo fúck em!
I sort of hope they do to. Not for any nasty reasons, but the bending of rules that is required both within football and outside (HMRC) would set a dangerous precedent that would be exploited as everyone would say “well you did it for Derby County…” Derby could well be coming to North East Lincs next season to face Cleethorpes Town in the Northern Premier League Division 1 East. I don’t see how a reformed club could be admitted any higher than that.
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Derby could well be coming to North East Lincs next season to face Cleethorpes Town in the Northern Premier League Division 1 East. I don’t see how a reformed club could be admitted any higher than that.
Clubs like Bury, Macclesfield, North Ferriby etc have all had to start from Counties level.
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January 21, 2022, 11:09am |
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Clubs like Bury, Macclesfield, North Ferriby etc have all had to start from Counties level.
Bury FC still exist and have just been sold. Bury AFC was/is a different club. Both Chester FC & FC Halifax Town were placed at Level 8/Tier 4.
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January 21, 2022, 11:39am |
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Wycombe’s case is spot on. Derby deliberately held back publishing their revised accounts to after this season started to avoid being put in League 1 this season. The EFL published an interchangeable fixture list for that reason and Derby played the system (again).
And don’t believe the rubbish that this is the issue. A new owner will have to pay off around £50-60 in debt within 2 years with the club probably in L1 next season with the club owning no assets (Mel Morris owns Pride Park and the training ground). Add on to that the new owner will have to fund on going losses from the day they bought the club.
Who on earth is going to buy them? That Turkish bloke bought Hull City for around £30m. Why would someone buy Derby when you can get a solvent club for half the price?
Unless Mel Morris puts the company that owns Pride Park and the training ground into administration Derby County are doomed. If he did that the administrator could package them with the club and give a new owner some assets to go with basically just buying the name Derby County. Doing that would make the club a viable business in the longer term.
The administrators are dealing with the ground too. They want to package it into one thing but said they'll split it if there's no option.
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January 21, 2022, 11:57am |
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Clubs like Bury, Macclesfield, North Ferriby etc have all had to start from Counties level.
BUT the National League has just 23 teams. AFC Derby would slot in there quite easily.
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GollyGTFC |
January 21, 2022, 12:09pm |
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The administrators are dealing with the ground too. They want to package it into one thing but said they'll split it if there's no option.
How? Mel Morris owns it.
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January 21, 2022, 12:13pm |
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How? Mel Morris owns it.
He must have put both companies into administration. It was in a statement from them and definitely mentioned that they're separate entities
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