Prutts

Had the pleasure of meeting David Prutton yesterday, through work. Very likeable bloke — shared some of his memories of playing at Grimsby for Forest. He remembered the 4-3 game (although forgot that Beasant and Hjelde got sent off in the match).

He's a big fan of Jack Lester. Remembered how excited the club was to sign him. All his teammates found him difficult to deal with in training because of his ability to win fouls. Really rates him as a youth coach and they're still mates.

Doesn't know Doig now but remembers him from Forest. Always thought he'd have a good career and go into coaching. 'Every club needs a Doigy' were his words.

Naturally, I told him all the Holloway stuff. Don't think he knows him well, but has probably spoken to him via Sky over time. Obviously there's a lot about our past two decades he knew nothing about, but he did know the name 'John Fenty'. Funny what sticks.

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Had the pleasure of meeting David Prutton yesterday, through work. Very likeable bloke — shared some of his memories of playing at Grimsby for Forest. He remembered the 4-3 game (although forgot that Beasant and Hjelde got sent off in the match).

He's a big fan of Jack Lester. Remembered how excited the club was to sign him. All his teammates found him difficult to deal with in training because of his ability to win fouls. Really rates him as a youth coach and they're still mates.

Doesn't know Doig now but remembers him from Forest. Always thought he'd have a good career and go into coaching. 'Every club needs a Doigy' were his words.

Naturally, I told him all the Holloway stuff. Don't think he knows him well, but has probably spoken to him via Sky over time. Obviously there's a lot about our past two decades he knew nothing about, but he did know the name 'John Fenty'. Funny what sticks.

When Lester went to Chesterfield as manager, he wanted Buckley as assistant and told Buckley that a lot of his training drills are ones the great man used to do here.

Doig strikes me as a very bold character and I'm surprised he hasn't tried to go alone yet but Hurst obviously trusts him and takes him everywhere. I heard that Hurst was sacked by Ipswich because they wanted to sack Doig and he stuck up for him.

I heard Buckley talking about Lester wanting him at Chesterfield. He turned it down but told him he was always just a phone call away for any advice he needed. One thing he told him was that the most important thing he needs to do is get an assistant that he truly trusts because most of them are after the managers job.

Limbrick always had management ambitions having had a taste of it before coming here, as caretaker and now in Europe with TNS so I wonder if Holloway wanted him out for this reason?

On your John Fenty point, people talk. We got through 40+ players last season and footballers pick the brains of others they know have played at clubs before they sign. That name will be a noose around our neck for some time as not everyone will know. B Corp publicity will help and in time, it will be common knowledge that we are building a positive culture.

The change in culture and changes to the facilities would have helped us get Revan here from Villa. Under the old regime I very much doubt that we could have attracted a player of his stature here.

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The change in culture and changes to the facilities would have helped us get Revan here from Villa. Under the old regime I very much doubt that we could have attracted a player of his stature here.

You say that but we got England U20 international Easah Suliman on loan from Aston Villa under Slade in 2018 who went on to play 2 games for us.

Jolley then got England U20 international Elliot Embleton on loan from Sunderland in the summer of 2018.

Runaway brought in the promising Anthony Glennon and Josh Benson before following it up last summer with the loan signings of Danny Preston and his mate Virgil Gomis, Kyle Bennett, James Morton, Terry Taylor, Owen Windsor and a seventh loan signing (despite only being able to play 5) who made such an impression, their name escapes me.

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You say that but we got England U20 international Easah Suliman on loan from Aston Villa under Slade in 2018 who went on to play 2 games for us.

Jolley then got England U20 international Elliot Embleton on loan from Sunderland in the summer of 2018.

Runaway brought in the promising Anthony Glennon and Josh Benson before following it up last summer with the loan signings of Danny Preston and his mate Virgil Gomis, Kyle Bennett, James Morton, Terry Taylor, Owen Windsor and a seventh loan signing (despite only being able to play 5) who made such an impression, their name escapes me.

Owura Edwards.  2 from Forest, 3 from the Brizzle clubs, 1 WBA, 1 Wolves.

If I recall he got sent off at BP for a foul on Gally . We either won 1 nil or drew 1/1 Burnett scoring. Can anyone confirm this ?

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I heard Buckley talking about Lester wanting him at Chesterfield. He turned it down but told him he was always just a phone call away for any advice he needed. One thing he told him was that the most important thing he needs to do is get an assistant that he truly trusts because most of them are after the managers job.

I seem to remember Buckley deliberately referring to the late Arthur Mann as his reserve team coach and not his assistant manage,r with words to the effect that there is only room for one boss.

I have never met David Prutton but my lad has played against his in junior football and he was unsurprisingly excellent.

Quoted from RichMariner

Had the pleasure of meeting David Prutton yesterday, through work. Very likeable bloke — shared some of his memories of playing at Grimsby for Forest. He remembered the 4-3 game (although forgot that Beasant and Hjelde got sent off in the match).

He's a big fan of Jack Lester. Remembered how excited the club was to sign him. All his teammates found him difficult to deal with in training because of his ability to win fouls. Really rates him as a youth coach and they're still mates.

Doesn't know Doig now but remembers him from Forest. Always thought he'd have a good career and go into coaching. 'Every club needs a Doigy' were his words.

Naturally, I told him all the Holloway stuff. Don't think he knows him well, but has probably spoken to him via Sky over time. Obviously there's a lot about our past two decades he knew nothing about, but he did know the name 'John Fenty'. Funny what sticks.

Remember that game vividly. Was sat up in the upper Smiths as it was then, albeit a 13 year old at the time. Lester was relentless that day and although Forest had the two reds the scoreline flattered them. Shame it was that game that lead David Platt to sign him only a month or so later.

Shame we didn’t get Jack back later in his career as however well he played for us it was actually the least prolific spell of his career in front of goal.

What a player though.

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I heard that Hurst was sacked by Ipswich because they wanted to sack Doig and he stuck up for him.

Either that, or a record of one win in fifteen games.

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Either that, or a record of one win in fifteen games.

Indeed. Hurst's record at Ipswich was absolutely dismal and it's quite remarkable just how wrong he got it after the job he'd just done at Shrewsbury in keeping them in League One against the odds and then coming so close to winning promotion to the Championship.

I'm not sure what went wrong there. Was the job a poisoned chalice? Ipswich were already in decline at the time and sold their best two players in Adam Webster and Martyn Waghorn for the best part of £10m. Did Hurst underestimate the quality of the Championship? I don't know, but exclusively signing players from Leagues One and Two (three of which were not long out of non-league) always looked risky and naïve, and so it proved.

Hurst always struck me as a man who learned more from his defeats than his victories though, so hopefully we can be the beneficiaries of his experience this time around.

Ipswich was a poisoned chalice when Hurst took over. They were cutting costs, selling players to bring their wage bill down and expecting Hurst to build a winning team. Maybe the players he signed were what they could afford rather than what he wanted.

Dont forget it happened to the Cowleys maybe they struggled with the director of football (not sure if Ipswich had one)

I think at Ipswich it was a mixture of both, Ipswich being on the decline but also I do think Hurst being out of his depth in the championship tactically, also he never had the contacts needed and his signings from league 1 and 2 reflected that.

Then onto Scunthorpe in which again he got sacked but I do think Scunny are a basket case and no manager could do anything there.

Quoted from RichMariner

Had the pleasure of meeting David Prutton yesterday, through work. Very likeable bloke — shared some of his memories of playing at Grimsby for Forest. He remembered the 4-3 game (although forgot that Beasant and Hjelde got sent off in the match).

He's a big fan of Jack Lester. Remembered how excited the club was to sign him. All his teammates found him difficult to deal with in training because of his ability to win fouls. Really rates him as a youth coach and they're still mates.

Doesn't know Doig now but remembers him from Forest. Always thought he'd have a good career and go into coaching. 'Every club needs a Doigy' were his words.

Naturally, I told him all the Holloway stuff. Don't think he knows him well, but has probably spoken to him via Sky over time. Obviously there's a lot about our past two decades he knew nothing about, but he did know the name 'John Fenty'. Funny what sticks.

Listened to Super Jack speaking at an event a couple of years ago and was really impressed with how he dedicated himself to coaching. In particular how, once he got into it and realised it wasn't easy to convey what he knew how to do as a player when coaching a young player, completely threw himself into studying coaching and everything involved with it. Spent a lot of time learning about the process of learning, how to develop players, how to develop psychology and mindset etc etc.

Has some interesting ideas and seems to be quite an innovative thinker when it comes to being a coach. There's a couple of articles floating around somewhere of his work as a coach that are interesting reads.
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