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EvilFish
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Why would you need to smooth the curves? All you need is to plot sales. No jiggery-pokery or fancy footwork needed. Simple numbers plotted. The number goes up each week. Some weeks the curve flattens out, sometimes it steepens. It doesn’t go down unless a lot of people get refunds.


I should add that this isn't statistical smoothing of the data, but visual smoothing to lessen the impact of essentially having 3 data points for some years.

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You are quite correct. What you're looking at there is the pre-season of 2011/12, and Town had just allowed fans' favourite Serge Makofo to go on trial at Lincoln to the anger and dismay of the Town faithful. The graph simply shows the refunds requested in protest at the decision, which eventually forced the club's hand in bringing "Power Serge", as he was known by his adoring fans on account of his lightning speed and electrifying skills, back to his spiritual home.

In time sadly a dream move to Farnborough Town was to prove too tempting for either club or player to turn down and he would go on to light up pitches across Europe including the likes of Gresley Rovers, Edinburgh City and Cypriot Third Division heavyweights PAEEK (pronounced as if you've just stood on a fúcking upturned plug in the dark in the middle of the night).

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Whilst I can’t believe that someone put that together, I’m further amazed that I spent 20 minutes watching it. To be fair, that Jean Paul Marna fella looked decent at times.
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Quoted from KingstonMariner


Why would you need to smooth the curves? All you need is to plot sales. No jiggery-pokery or fancy footwork needed. Simple numbers plotted. The number goes up each week. Some weeks the curve flattens out, sometimes it steepens. It doesn’t go down unless a lot of people get refunds.


Honestly I see people do it all the time, presumably the chart is a line chart created in excel, there's an option to  smooth the line which is often used for ascetic purposes. Doesn't make it right but I've sat through loads of presentations where people have used it and it makes the data look a bit odd.
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The smoothing on a line is the new problem on here is it? Fúck me.
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I should add that this isn't statistical smoothing of the data, but visual smoothing to lessen the impact of essentially having 3 data points for some years.



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Honestly I see people do it all the time, presumably the chart is a line chart created in excel, there's an option to  smooth the line which is often used for ascetic purposes. Doesn't make it right but I've sat through loads of presentations where people have used it and it makes the data look a bit odd.


Exactly. It’s not showing what it’s supposed to show. Which means it’s wrong. The whole point of a graph is to illustrate what’s going on. If the line looks a bit odd because there aren’t enough data points, don’t try to dress it up as something it isn’t. Especially when a bit of it is actually showing something that isn’t happening.


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Quoted from EvilFish


I should add that this isn't statistical smoothing of the data, but visual smoothing to lessen the impact of essentially having 3 data points for some years.



Well why not draw the line based on the actual data points? There are no prizes for artistic merit. “Smoothing” it because there aren’t enough data points is actually massaging the data and in this case has clearly made it look like something radically  different has happened to what is in fact happening.

It’s the equivalent of a quick boot up the field, getting in a goal scoring position and then passing it back to the midfield because there weren’t enough passes/data points and the play didn’t look slick enough.


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Are you mentally ill? What is wrong with you?

Open a window ffs, get some fresh air.
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I preferred this thread when it was fans bitching about how many we’d sell, people telling others they’re deluded Becauee we’ll never shift 3000 and then people going on about Fenty or people moaning about prices and just general nonsense…

Smoothing of curves? Are we talking about some no mark influencers Instagram pics?


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Wrexham have sold 5000 season tickets to date and have put a cap of 5200 on sales now. Looks like their fans are getting carried away with their new owners and pre-season expectations.

https://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/n.....unprecedented-demand


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