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mimma
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If the new owners get it right, I don't see why we shouldn't average over 10k. Ipswich for example,  has more or less the same population we have here, and have 12k season ticket holders. We don't have any big teams close to us, and Grimsby is a football town, so the demand is there, we just need to get it right on and off the pitch. This is why we need a new modern stadium. People of today will not put up with awful facilities any more. They demand comfort with all the bells and whistles that go with it.
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If the new owners get it right, I don't see why we shouldn't average over 10k. Ipswich for example,  has more or less the same population we have here, and have 12k season ticket holders. We don't have any big teams close to us, and Grimsby is a football town, so the demand is there, we just need to get it right on and off the pitch. This is why we need a new modern stadium. People of today will not put up with awful facilities any more. They demand comfort with all the bells and whistles that go with it.


Using a team with recent top flight pedigree and past European success isn’t probably the best example. I would say a team like Rotherham or Peterborough are probably more like us.


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Using a team with recent top flight pedigree and past European success isn’t probably the best example. I would say a team like Rotherham or Peterborough are probably more like us.


Rotherham, Lincoln and to some extent, Doncaster are all teams that could be used as an example/blue print to help build us up...


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The council will get the grant though. The Levelling Up Fund can’t go to a private company Prudential borrowing would be the top up of investment needed and covered by the rent that GTFC would pay. West Ham originally paid only £2.5 million rent for a 60k capacity stadium. So GTFC would need to pay about £500k per annum - circa £35 per seat / terrace place - is that affordable? May be it could be a lower starting rent plus the turnover top up.

I should add, of course, that we don't need to speculate about this stuff - we now have competent people on the Board with proper expertise in these areas...

For me, the key point is that I'd like to see safe standing at Blundell Park in the interim and then built into the plans for a new stadium and my preference on location is off Freeman Street.


There is absolutely no way that we would move to a new stadium and only be the tenants. Any new stadium would be owned 100% by GTFC.
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What happened at West Ham isn’t a guide. The body charged with it wanted to shift responsibility for upkeep of the Olympic Stadium onto someone else - they calculated that it was more expensive to the public purse not to virtually give it away. So West Ham got a bargain.


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Whilst the idea of stadiums being owned/operated by local councils and clubs sounds like a good idea just pop across to Italy and see the issues it causes.

One could argue that with italian politics being bent it’s a no win situation but it more than that...

It’s also notoriously difficult to get funding to redevelop and generally keep the stadia up to date, let alone ever get planning permission to build a new stadium...


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Rotherham, Lincoln and to some extent, Doncaster are all teams that could be used as an example/blue print to help build us up...


Doncaster is a good example as they went non-league and still ended up with a new stadium.


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Doncaster is a good example as they went non-league and still ended up with a new stadium.


Agreed and I appreciate they had financial issues to some extent on their return, they’re another club that made some tough but right decisions and are in a significantly better place than us...


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Whilst the idea of stadiums being owned/operated by local councils and clubs sounds like a good idea just pop across to Italy and see the issues it causes.

One could argue that with italian politics being bent it’s a no win situation but it more than that...

It’s also notoriously difficult to get funding to redevelop and generally keep the stadia up to date, let alone ever get planning permission to build a new stadium...


Our politics has gone the same way, or have you not noticed all those contracts being awarded to friends and family over the last year? Admittedly that’s central government.

At the local level I’ve heard there have been suspicious goings on too. Apparently one head of regeneration for an authority on the east coast set up a business with a convicted fraudster and then introduced him to the council. He ran a sports outfit and has fingers in construction related businesses too. Can’t remember what town it was but I read about it in Private Eye.


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Our politics has gone the same way, or have you not noticed all those contracts being awarded to friends and family over the last year? Admittedly that’s central government.

At the local level I’ve heard there have been suspicious goings on too. Apparently one head of regeneration for an authority on the east coast set up a business with a convicted fraudster and then introduced him to the council. He ran a sports outfit and has fingers in construction related businesses too. Can’t remember what town it was but I read about it in Private Eye.


Oh I don’t disagree…I just couldn’t be arsed with the pro Fenty types telling me/ya that we’re wrong…

Local politics is as corrupt here as in Italy…


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