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lew chaterleys lover
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I am sure all these issues can be mitigated with clever planning and a clever design that will satisfy all parties. It is a while since I was in the main stand but there is quite a bit of room behind the stand isn't there - more room for a clever design.

The main thing is why are they looking at it - short to mid-term improvements with a new stadium to follow later at some point - or the first step in developing BP to stay permanently?

We will know soon enough.
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Not if you live down Humberston Ave. A developer bought a house and demolished it the next day to provide access for the development. The council stated the house will be rebuilt as they did not having planning permission to demolish it! Never happened! And there's a nice road!



Good point but that was a strange situation. The property was bought and demolished purely to provide access to a new housing development. The Council were out manoeuvred - nothing to do with Humberston Avenue, as that scenario could have occurred in many other locations. The Council found themselves in a no-win situation and I am sure their legal advisors would have pointed this out.


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I am sure all these issues can be mitigated with clever planning and a clever design that will satisfy all parties. It is a while since I was in the main stand but there is quite a bit of room behind the stand isn't there - more room for a clever design.

The main thing is why are they looking at it - short to mid-term improvements with a new stadium to follow later at some point - or the first step in developing BP to stay permanently?

We will know soon enough.


Can you mitigate the poor position of the stadium and the lack of available parking? I’m sure the local residents will be delighted if Town redeveloped BP into a 14,000 capacity stadium. There’s plenty of parking for an additional 6,000 fans after all… NOT.
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Can you mitigate the poor position of the stadium and the lack of available parking? I’m sure the local residents will be delighted if Town redeveloped BP into a 14,000 capacity stadium. There’s plenty of parking for an additional 6,000 fans after all… NOT.


I am sure the owners are clever enough to mitigate that too, if necessary. Some form of park and ride - similar to many stadia around the country. I have always managed to get parked with crowds three times our current attendances - just means I have to walk further. People can be dropped off, share a taxi or be dropped by helicopter on the centre circle. People will make it work.

Big car parking is a definite no in any future planning application for a new stadium as councils are desperate to get us out of our cars, so I doubt very much whether a stadium surrounded by a giant car park is in the offing.

My preference as I said is a Dockside stadium (presumably with park and ride to get there) but it is the owners who will decide; if they wish to redevelop BP then we will have to make it work, won't we?
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Not living locally, I have no idea where carparks are other than near Cleethorpes front, so where would I park and then ride. A nice new 1000 space carpark near Great Coates? (Defeats the object it might as well be built by the new ground)  A Town centre multistorey? either way most people will still drive much of the journey and park in Grimsby so the general stance of Govt/Council re carparks with developments will never hold ground. I get we need to cut emissions etc. but until an alternative to the car is fast, safe and efficient what do you do!
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Not living locally, I have no idea where carparks are other than near Cleethorpes front, so where would I park and then ride. A nice new 1000 space carpark near Great Coates? (Defeats the object it might as well be built by the new ground)  A Town centre multistorey? either way most people will still drive much of the journey and park in Grimsby so the general stance of Govt/Council re carparks with developments will never hold ground. I get we need to cut emissions etc. but until an alternative to the car is fast, safe and efficient what do you do!


Of course you are right, but as long as the club tick the park and ride box, or any other solution they come up with, people will obviously do what they like in order to get there.
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They would still have to get past objections from local residents if the skyline was heightened. It would be quite easy for any pressure group to whip up resistance against this with the argument "Mainstand today, Osmond and Pontoon to come. Thin end of the wedge" Do you think a Mainstand the same height as The Youngs would be given planning permission because I seriously doubt it.


I’m pretty sure if a few grand compensation was offered to those residents they’d waiver their objections , most of those houses will be rentals anyway
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I’m pretty sure if a few grand compensation was offered to those residents they’d waiver their objections , most of those houses will be rentals anyway


Sorry, are those people who rent & aren't fortunate enough to own their own homes 2nd class citizens who's views on the area they live in not valid?
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Sorry, are those people who rent & aren't fortunate enough to own their own homes 2nd class citizens who's views on the area they live in not valid?


No but I’d guess that the tenants would be the objectors and the receivers of the compensation?
If I was renting or the owner and someone offered me a few grand I’d take it , I’d deffo take it if I was a short term renter or owner and had visions of not living in the same house for ever
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Parking for a 4000 home crowd at Blundell Park was tolerable, for 6000 it’s pretty horrendous, for 10000 it would be intolerable.

There simply isn’t an acceptable solution, wherever the Park & Ride would be situated.
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