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Heisenberg
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If true then that’s brilliant. Get a new one running the full length of the pitch and allow for potentially connecting a new Pontoon and Osmond which in time would wrap fully around to the Smiths. Ideally we’d want something similar in capacity to the Co-Op at Lincoln (5700) but even just stretching down the extra third of the length of the pitch would turn 2277 into approx circa3500.


I’m not sure it would. A new modern stand would surely have a smaller capacity than one built a hundred years ago? There’s no room to make it deeper.

The seats at the back are useless, and presumably they wouldn’t be able to have the roof any higher, so I think even if it does run the full length of the pitch, the capacity would be similar to what it currently is?
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No we have to move away from BP I have great memories of games going back to the 70's but it's had it's day


All Town aren't we ..... UTM  
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If true then this is fantastic news . Moving to an overpriced soul less stadium isn’t the way forward for gtfc in my opinion. Yes I get all the revenue stream arguments but does the wider area have the financial potential to service and make a new stadium viable. I’m not convinced.


Two questions? Why do you assume a new stadium would be overpriced? And why if built correctly would you assume it would be soulless?

Even if BP was redeveloped, the capacity maybe could only be increased by a couple of thousand due to its footprint. Still no 24/7 money making possibilities. A weird huge side stand that only runs 50% of the pitch dwarfing the rest of the stadium, a decrepit away end not fit for purpose, a home end that's too small to generate any significant atmosphere, lack of parking, lack of local pubs and eateries etc etc etc the problems remain if the Main Stand was redeveloped.

Can't get back to BP much, but every time I do I find it a pretty soulless experience a fifth of the way through the 21st century..

Remaining at BP will ensure that there's a lower glass ceiling to what we can achieve as a club compared to moving to bigger, better and higher potential income facilities.. all depends on the net cost of a new stadium and whether JS and AP can secure any enabling projects to fund it..

We can all get misty eyed about BP memories long gone, but that was the past, we've got to look forward. Fans wanting to remain at BP are somewhat guilty of holding the club back for future generations imho. Can't get excited about redeveloping BP myself unless it's an obvious stop gap solution..
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Two questions? Why do you assume a new stadium would be overpriced? And why if built correctly would you assume it would be soulless?

Even if BP was redeveloped, the capacity maybe could only be increased by a couple of thousand due to its footprint. Still no 24/7 money making possibilities. A weird huge side stand that only runs 50% of the pitch dwarfing the rest of the stadium, a decrepit away end not fit for purpose, a home end that's too small to generate any significant atmosphere, lack of parking, lack of local pubs and eateries etc etc etc the problems remain if the Main Stand was redeveloped.

Can't get back to BP much, but every time I do I find it a pretty soulless experience a fifth of the way through the 21st century..

Remaining at BP will ensure that there's a lower glass ceiling to what we can achieve as a club compared to moving to bigger, better and higher potential income facilities.. all depends on the net cost of a new stadium and whether JS and AP can secure any enabling projects to fund it..

We can all get misty eyed about BP memories long gone, but that was the past, we've got to look forward. Fans wanting to remain at BP are somewhat guilty of holding the club back for future generations imho. Can't get excited about redeveloping BP myself unless it's an obvious stop gap solution..


100% with you.

I started going back in 1989, and was spoilt with 2 incredible seasons on the bounce. But honestly, out of 29-30 seasons since then, I’d say 2/3 of them have been complete torture, so I’ll not miss Blundell Park when it’s gone.
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Using the services of a well known local architect, even better,  monies staying local


Maybe the one who did the Bullring fountains or he who did the Freeman Street lamp posts or better still the one responsible for River Head bus station , and get Engie to be the main contractors  
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I’m not sure it would. A new modern stand would surely have a smaller capacity than one built a hundred years ago? There’s no room to make it deeper.

The seats at the back are useless, and presumably they wouldn’t be able to have the roof any higher, so I think even if it does run the full length of the pitch, the capacity would be similar to what it currently is?


Lazy maths really: If it already runs for 2/3s the length of the pitch adding on an extra 50% length would put on 50% capacity. The roof height wouldn’t matter - a new stand wouldn’t have an apex roof. It’d more likely have a shallow pitched rear sloping roof which would remove any poor view from the back anyway. Factor in that it’s unlikely that you would need a directors area behind the benches too and a bit more capacity is added on. = easily enough room for a newly built 3,500 capacity stand on that side.
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A new Main stand would be a good short term fix , we still need a new ground though if we’re ever going to compete at the higher levels we have done throughout most of our history .
The question is would a new stand be wasting money if we’re likely to get a new ground anytime soon ?
Or is a new Main stand an admission that it’s very unlikely we’re going to get a new ground anytime soon ?  
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I’m not sure it would. A new modern stand would surely have a smaller capacity than one built a hundred years ago? There’s no room to make it deeper.

The seats at the back are useless, and presumably they wouldn’t be able to have the roof any higher, so I think even if it does run the full length of the pitch, the capacity would be similar to what it currently is?


There is room. The roof doesn't extend over the concourse at the back the way the Osmond and Pontoon do. There is also room to extend toward the Pontoon, so with clever design, could easily be double the capacity, if not more. It could also incorporate various rooms into the design, such as bars, eateries and function rooms.

I'm just playing devils advocate here, because my preference would be for a new iconic ground on the docks, but if redeveloping BP is the plan, whether in the short or long term, there is scope to make it a whole lot better than it is now.

We have to face the facts that the ground is way past it's sell by date and the Main and Osmond need significant works carried out, sooner rather than later. The structures are rotting away and need a lot of work just to keep them this side of safe. At some point, maintenance becomes never ending and too costly to keep on top of.  They may have decided to bite the bullet and redevelop.

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The attitude of the last 20 years seems to have been let’s not spend a penny on Blundell park as we’re  trying to get a new ground , maybe this has been a huge smokes screen that’s enabled people to get away with not spending a penny on Blundell park
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Seems to me that there’s several on here who were adamant we needed a new stadium six months ago that appear to have had their mind changed.
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