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HertsGTFC
May 17, 2021, 7:45am

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Quoted from wiggers
Wage and length of contract I would say followed by location and clubs ambitions.


I’d imagine this is about right.


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Offer in comparison to other clubs offers
Wage
Length of Contract
Terms of Contract

Managment
Location
Facilities
Whos at the Club
Past sucess or failures and club reputation
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Simple...

Length of contract
Pay
Geography
Working conditions (training ground & stadium)
Reputation as a club/employer
Likelihood of success
Cost of living

Football is a small world. If players don’t have a friend at every club they definitely have a friend of a friend at every club or who been at the club they can get info from.

It is a open secret in football circles that GTFC under the previous custodians paid cr@p money & treated players like cr@p too. Which is why we end up with rejects/crocked players like Rose, Williams, Scannell etc...
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May 17, 2021, 10:18am
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Perhaps the question to ask is: if you were offered the same wage and length of contract by two good managers, would you take the one that has worse facilities, less coaching and support staff, in a somewhat remote location, with a backward thinking board?
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Footballers are no different to everyone else, their brains are geared up towards survival and still fit into Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Physiological needs and safety needs will always come first - that'll be the wage itself.   They'll want to make sure they can cover their needs.

Then comes the sense of belonging, the esteem and ultimately the self-actualisation.  

If you had to put that in terms of a footballer, I guess it would look a bit like:

- Wage
- Length of Contract
- The actual club, the atmosphere etc, the manager, the approach to the game
- What the club can offer - captaincy, leader of the dressing room
- The ability of the club to challenge at the top and how they'll develop you as a player/person.

For footballers this, as with all of us, it probably becomes more important as you get older and have families and responsibilities.  For the elite players, who've likely never had to consider the first two factors, you could argue that they largely discount these two and the self-actualisation is far more important.

You also have those players who don't actually enjoy the game, someone like Danny Rose for example.  His hierarchy is perhaps slanted upside down.  He's not alone in this either, I've seen quite a few players come out and said football was just a job so the development side is less important.

It's fair to say that in the last however many years we've just stopped dead stop at the second tier.  We've presumed that it's enough to give a wage to players and expect them to be happy with it.  
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Length of contract is key but not so good if say have successive relegations.  Maybe reduced terms in contract if relegated.  Relegation often means a change in manager, and maybe out of favour with a new manager.

A player should look at the turnover rate of managers.  The one signing you could be sacked.

I have heard that the Holloway Covid contract should also be avoided.  As should Holloway! 🙁
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Years ago it would be wages, bonuses, contract and a house with a new kitchen, followed by the league level, the character and ambition of the management. In some cases the promise of a future role in the club may have mattered too.

These days there is less stability and shorter contracts. So some of that may still matter but for a young player the promise of allowing a transfer for a minimum fee may matter most, for a family, help with housing or commuting. The size of the squad influences the likelihood of first team games too.

With contracts being shorter maybe the place actually matters less than those other factors but the presentation of the club to new recruits obviously does.


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Quoted from diehardmariner
Footballers are no different to everyone else, their brains are geared up towards survival and still fit into Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Physiological needs and safety needs will always come first - that'll be the wage itself.   They'll want to make sure they can cover their needs.

Then comes the sense of belonging, the esteem and ultimately the self-actualisation.  

If you had to put that in terms of a footballer, I guess it would look a bit like:

- Wage
- Length of Contract
- The actual club, the atmosphere etc, the manager, the approach to the game
- What the club can offer - captaincy, leader of the dressing room
- The ability of the club to challenge at the top and how they'll develop you as a player/person.

For footballers this, as with all of us, it probably becomes more important as you get older and have families and responsibilities.  For the elite players, who've likely never had to consider the first two factors, you could argue that they largely discount these two and the self-actualisation is far more important.

You also have those players who don't actually enjoy the game, someone like Danny Rose for example.  His hierarchy is perhaps slanted upside down.  He's not alone in this either, I've seen quite a few players come out and said football was just a job so the development side is less important.

It's fair to say that in the last however many years we've just stopped dead stop at the second tier.  We've presumed that it's enough to give a wage to players and expect them to be happy with it.  


That reminds me -

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May 17, 2021, 3:56pm
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Money is usually the motivating factor when it comes to who anybody wants to work, beit hourly/weekly rates. Footballers are no different. The length of the contract is also important, job security, even in the fragile world of a footballer.

Next is the location and is it commutable, especially the training ground where most of the time will be spent. Will they have to move and will their wife/partner be happy moving?

Then if all this is ok what about the training facilities and clubs ambitions. Is the manager any good and the owners, are decent to work for; and depending on age will there be a future there for me! If younger will the move help my future development and prospects?


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I think in this age...

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