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May 13, 2021, 8:42am

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jesus god he was awful
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The stuff with the players we don't want but who are under contract is just a bit of a negotiating game. We tell them we won't pay them up and can afford to have them rotting in reserves all season. They say that's fine and they can't find another club. Then either they break and say they've been offered something but on less so we'd need to pay up the difference or we break and say we won't pay up the full year but how about 3/6/9 months severance to go get a new club and never darken our door again. Would be amazed if anybody stays for a full year, completely frozen out but equally amazed if they find new clubs and we don't have to pay a penny.
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Ouch, there it is!
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I work for a family business but it’s a billion £ plus one represented across the World and we do something very similar but also if someone is joining our team one of us will meet them first to see if they’re going to be a good fit. I wonder if any clubs ever get the senior players to run the rule over new recruits (that aren’t their mates) to see if they’d fit with the group ?


The difference being, that football runs in tight circles (unlike some defenders we’ve had!) and we all know that players, managers etc talk to each other so, it’s easy to find out someone temperament


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I work for a family business but it’s a billion £ plus one represented across the World and we do something very similar but also if someone is joining our team one of us will meet them first to see if they’re going to be a good fit. I wonder if any clubs ever get the senior players to run the rule over new recruits (that aren’t their mates) to see if they’d fit with the group ?


A role for Disley
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I have a feeling Hurst see's Waterfall being useful next season.


Not so sure.  We've taken up the offer on Pollock, he's made an offer to keep Hewitt and I'd be amazed if he doesn't go back in for Menayese.

That's 3 first choice centre-backs straight away and then we've got Idehen for another year too.  Fair enough Hurst may well favour a back 3 but I still don't see Waterfall fitting in his plans.  Even with a back 3, I'd see Pollock, Hewitt and Meyanese as the first choices with Idehen as the back up.  Waterfall would be a quite expensive cover player, even with any relegation clause in his contract.

There's also the fact that he's generally had a very, very poor season.  Confidence is a big consideration always but he hasn't done the basics right for so long.  No doubting that we'll need a warrior type at the back for certain games but I'd see Pollock in that role and Meyanese showed once he settled he's quite happy in that role at the back.

Of the list itself, no major surprises.  I think Hendrie can maybe consider himself lucky to be offered a deal after a quite disappointing season.  In his defence it does seem he's played the majority of the season with various injuries so hopefully with a proper pre-season and some S&C work he can come back as the player of 18 months ago.  

Can't imagine Coke will have a load of clubs lining up for him, despite his excellent form for.  Hewitt's stood out in a team that finished bottom of the pile.  There's no doubting that he's a hundred times better at centre-back, but I'm not convinced he'll have clubs lining up to sign him.  His record still shows his largely a bit part player in two sides that have been relegated from the last three seasons.  

Hurst's interview about not having to worry about freezing out the deadwood is good news to say the least.    Feel very confident knowing this and that Hurst's budget will actually be competitive (as in not just words, eh John?) plus we've offloaded some of the higher earners from the last two seasons.

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jesus god he was awful


If he existed as described in the Gospels, he was awesome.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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I work for a family business but it’s a billion £ plus one represented across the World and we do something very similar but also if someone is joining our team one of us will meet them first to see if they’re going to be a good fit. I wonder if any clubs ever get the senior players to run the rule over new recruits (that aren’t their mates) to see if they’d fit with the group ?


I can see where you are coming from but football is a very specific skill set. I’ve employed some of the nicest, kindest, most helpful people who have been totally useless at their jobs but everyone covered for them. But I wasn’t a football manager.


“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty."
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I can see where you are coming from but football is a very specific skill set. I’ve employed some of the nicest, kindest, most helpful people who have been totally useless at their jobs but everyone covered for them. But I wasn’t a football manager.


I once had a manager with graduate and post graduate qualifications and he was quite simply "an educated idiot"! His nickname at work was Captain Chaos!!


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"The commonest thing on this planet is not water , as some people believe, but stupidity ". Frank Zappa
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Out of favour players will soon be fed up of travelling over here for training only, with no chance of getting games to advertise themselves, apart from very occasional reserve games which often get cancelled.

If players then invent or actually incur slight injuries, can we also insist that they travel to see Dave Moore for treatment, not languish at home?

For clarification on current contracted players, if they move out of their own volition to other clubs ( On a transfer list - free transfer out available to them), at what point do we stop paying them, and surely, there is no pay up of contract if they negotiate a sign on fee themselves to the new club?
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