The deal

Heard on the 6 o’clock news this morning ( the channel that used to be compass) that Mr Fenty is talking to the remaining two consortium members to sort out a deal. Can’t help but think they should have said scupper the deal. I think this will his last chance to claw back his wonga I’m not going back in Blundell Park until that man has left.

The deal will be ,, They pay his loans back, and get a place on the board . He remains in charge  and they do as he says .    Thats a fenty deal.. Ours is  take the money and dissapear for good

I thought a deal was already done? He was going to intercourse off and we’d get a consortium of new owners. To say Fenty has moved the goalpost is pure speculation, what we definitely know is that Shutes has pulled out and closed his Twitter account 🤔

Not rocket science. Just spilt 2.5 million 2 ways rather than 3.

I’ve got a horrible feeling we’re just going to end up with 2 new directors out of this.

There's no way the club is worth 2.5mil and I think most felt that as a league club.. rich people don't become rich by over paying for things..

Can't see the new fellas wanting to work with JF as his position as head of our football club is pretty much untenable.

So where do they go from here.. offer less maybe?

If Netflix had followed Town this season it would be a classic even better than the Sunderland one!!

I have a bad feeling that all this is going to be bad for the club .  Either way the playing squad is going to suffer badley

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

There's no way the club is worth 2.5mil and I think most felt that as a league club.. rich people don't become rich by over paying for things..

Can't see the new fellas wanting to work with JF as his position as head of our football club is pretty much untenable.

So where do they go from here.. offer less maybe?

If Netflix had followed Town this season it would be a classic even better than the Sunderland one!!

It would be a cross between the office and Phoenix nights 😂

Quoted from denni266

I have a bad feeling that all this is going to be bad for the club .  Either way the playing squad is going to suffer badley

Let’s be honest with the shite we have we could be paying 50% less and have a better team

Quoted from GrimRob

Not rocket science. Just spilt 2.5 million 2 ways rather than 3.

You got the spare cash lying around Rob? It’s not just money that Shutes was bringing to the table either. Never thought you would end up with such a simplistic view of things.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

You got the spare cash lying around Rob? It’s not just money that Shutes was bringing to the table either. Never thought you would end up with such a simplistic view of things.

If he doesn't fancy it then better not having him at the table from day one. They've got a deal, don't overcomplicate things, just get it done.

I bet Crofty has a Bob or two and he has criticised Fenty.

Could Stockwood and Pettit join the board and then join forces with Dave Roberts and Jon Wood and vote Fenty off the board? If so it'll be 4 votes to Day and Champman's 2.

Surely there is a way with support in the board room to vote somebody off the board.

Quoted from Davec

Could Stockwood and Pettit join the board and then join forces with Dave Roberts and Jon Wood and vote Fenty off the board? If so it'll be 4 votes to Day and Champman's 2.

Surely there is a way with support in the board room to vote somebody off the board.

The Trust directors have no capital and the Trust shares are in the pocket of someone else.

Quoted from denni266

I have a bad feeling that all this is going to be bad for the club .  Either way the playing squad is going to suffer badley

I'm not sure where you have been the past few months but could the squad get much worse?

Quoted from GrimRob

If he doesn't fancy it then better not having him at the table from day one. They've got a deal, don't overcomplicate things, just get it done.

With respect Rob, you don’t know why he’s pulled out.

If it’s true that Fenty is insisting he’s still involved in running the club (and this definitely wasn’t part of the deal) I don’t blame anyone for pulling out. The other two should too in those circumstances.

So the original consortium is now defunct & we now enter a new ball game.
The club have stated that there will be no further comment until they have something to report.
I seem to recall the same thing was said in December.
IF the parties decide to proceed are we then looking at another 3 months of re-negotiation & EFL ratification I wonder?
Nothing about my club surprises me any more - the circus continues.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

So the original consortium is now defunct & we now enter a new ball game.
The club have stated that there will be no further comment until they have something to report.
I seem to recall the same thing was said in December.
IF the parties decide to proceed are we then looking at another 3 months of re-negotiation & EFL ratification I wonder?
Nothing about my club surprises me any more - the circus continues.

So the consortium issue is the new long running new ground issue .

Quoted from KingstonMariner

With respect Rob, you don’t know why he’s pulled out.

If it’s true that Fenty is insisting he’s still involved in running the club (and this definitely wasn’t part of the deal) I don’t blame anyone for pulling out. The other two should too in those circumstances.

I don't know any more about these circumstances than anyone else, but I have been told many many times that Fenty is impossible to work with.

Trying to get a deal done and dusted with him must be like nailing jelly to the wall - nigh on impossible.

If the rumours are true about Fenty wanting any involvement after the sale then I am surprised the three of them haven't told him to take a very long walk off a very short pier.

It is a complete f**k up once again, as anything involving Mr Fenty seems to be; none of the people I go with will go to matches whilst Fenty is involved, including absolute die-hard fans. A complete break or forget it. We will always love the club but he has ruined it and even after a lifetime of going to BP we have to take a stand.

It looks that way GY.

To vote someone off the board doesn't require a vote in the boardroom, it requires an EGM. 10% of the shareholding is required to do this. As things stand the Trust and Parker are the only individual shareholders able to do so but it can be a collective group that come together.

It then requires a majority vote at the EGM. That would be tough given a large number of shareholders are uncontactable and Fenty holds 40% of the shares.

Hopefully it doesn't come to any of this and we get him gone.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

With respect Rob, you don’t know why he’s pulled out.

If it’s true that Fenty is insisting he’s still involved in running the club (and this definitely wasn’t part of the deal) I don’t blame anyone for pulling out. The other two should too in those circumstances.

Yeah, they probably should, if that is the case, although it probably means the end of GTFC if they do.

on twitter

Jason Stockwood
@jstockwood
I’ll tell you what would be a really ‘good’ Friday - a walk in the sun with the family, 3 points away at Salford and a bit of love and respect for each others differences and perspectives. #gtfc #utm #coulddowithawash
12:19 pm · 2 Apr 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Quoted from carrot top

on twitter

Jason Stockwood
@jstockwood
I’ll tell you what would be a really ‘good’ Friday - a walk in the sun with the family, 3 points away at Salford and a bit of love and respect for each others differences and perspectives. #gtfc #utm #coulddowithawash
12:19 pm · 2 Apr 2021·Twitter for iPhone

I don’t know much about Stockwood, but what I do know I like.

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With respect Rob, you don’t know why he’s pulled out.

It should have been somebody else who had pulled out

I think the majority of fans are questioning the £2.5 million valuation. Not being a business man at all I would have thought the clubs assets are Blundell Park and the players, I’m guessing the training ground is leased so belongs to a third party so not included in the deal. So where does £2.5 million come from ?

Quoted from Gaffer58

I think the majority of fans are questioning the £2.5 million valuation. Not being a business man at all I would have thought the clubs assets are Blundell Park and the players, I’m guessing the training ground is leased so belongs to a third party so not included in the deal. So where does £2.5 million come from ?

as with anything gaffer, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, (if that makes sense!)

Quoted from forza ivano

as with anything gaffer, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, (if that makes sense!)

There is just over 2.8million of accumulated losses in the clubs accounts, this could be seen as an asset to any astute businessman and used to their advantage.
For example If the consortium were to purchase the club with with one of their companies, that could be written off a corporation tax bill and make the club actually free to purchase and still leave them over £300k ahead after paying off Fenty. I would imagine they have something like this in mind to be honest.

Quoted from Gonzo

There is just over 2.8million of accumulated losses in the clubs accounts, this could be seen as an asset to any astute businessman and used to their advantage.
For example If the consortium were to purchase the club with with one of their companies, that could be written off a corporation tax bill and make the club actually free to purchase and still leave them over £300k ahead after paying off Fenty. I would imagine they have something like this in mind to be honest.

This is a misunderstanding of tax law.  This used to be the case years ago but you can’t offset tax losses like this.

Quoted from Gaffer58

I think the majority of fans are questioning the £2.5 million valuation. Not being a business man at all I would have thought the clubs assets are Blundell Park and the players, I’m guessing the training ground is leased so belongs to a third party so not included in the deal. So where does £2.5 million come from ?

The value of Fenty’s shares and the loan account, I think.

Quoted from carrot top

on twitter

Jason Stockwood
@jstockwood
I’ll tell you what would be a really ‘good’ Friday - a walk in the sun with the family, 3 points away at Salford and a bit of love and respect for each others differences and perspectives. #gtfc #utm #coulddowithawash
12:19 pm · 2 Apr 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Great to see this message from JS in support of JF

He’s absolutely correct, that supporters need to show respect for people’s differences. I think it’s hit a chord of dislike in what he is seeing, regarding the treatment and hate a board member is receiving and the capacity that GTFC fans have to dish out that sort of treatment. Probably imagines himself on the receiving end of this sort of abuse from fans at some stage in the future

Typical GTFC fans run the risk of scuppering a deal with the remaining two. It’s about time some Town fans learned to shut their mouths and cut out their bile.

Well said Jason Stockwood

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Great to see this message from JS in support of JF

He’s absolutely correct, that supporters need to show respect for people’s differences. I think it’s hit a chord of dislike in what he is seeing, regarding the treatment and hate a board member is receiving and the capacity that GTFC fans have to dish out that sort of treatment. Probably imagines himself on the receiving end of this sort of abuse from fans at some stage in the future

Typical GTFC fans run the risk of scuppering a deal with the remaining two. It’s about time some Town fans learned to shut their mouths and cut out their bile.

Well said Jason Stockwood

Have a day off will you

To be fair, what prospective buyer would look at the treatment of Fenty and not think that could be me?

Yes, Stockwood et al are successful businessmen, but the level of scrutiny involved in running the club is something else.

Also, Fenty deserves it all.

I wouldn’t blame Stockwood and Pettit if they walked away too!!

Fenty is completely delusional if he thinks a non-league club should net him 2.5 million quid. I will have a wry smile if he ends up losing the lot!

Greed and ego have been at the forefront of every decision he has ever made!

Time to go John!

Not only would I not blame them for walking away but atm I would actively encourage them to if JF staying on in any capacity at all was part of the deal. I don’t know if it is or not but that would be my first requirement before talking money.

If I sell my house, can I stay on living in the garage for a bit? Christ.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Great to see this message from JS in support of JF

He’s absolutely correct, that supporters need to show respect for people’s differences. I think it’s hit a chord of dislike in what he is seeing, regarding the treatment and hate a board member is receiving and the capacity that GTFC fans have to dish out that sort of treatment. Probably imagines himself on the receiving end of this sort of abuse from fans at some stage in the future

Typical GTFC fans run the risk of scuppering a deal with the remaining two. It’s about time some Town fans learned to shut their mouths and cut out their bile.

Well said Jason Stockwood

Ridiculous.. Was waiting for it to be the fans' fault for any deal not to go through. JS could easily be pointing the finger at JF for bad mouthing Shutes in his statement..

He's well aware that he himself is a different character to Fenty and will be treated that way. It's as if you've airbrushed the majority of the past seventeen years of patience that the fans afforded JF even with such a dismal playing record and such an antagonistic approach received from him at the same time. That's some twilight zone you're living in..

Quoted from Dan

To be fair, what prospective buyer would look at the treatment of Fenty and not think that could be me?

Yes, Stockwood et al are successful businessmen, but the level of scrutiny involved in running the club is something else.

Also, Fenty deserves it all.

I think anyone who managed GTFC properly would be hailed as saviours. More likely they'd be thinking how bad must he be to be getting such abuse?

Stockwood was at the game today so I'm holding out hope it's still very much on.

I hope Fenty gets nothing i would be over the moon.

I briefly posed the question on supporter involvement in the form of special shareholding’s.

He answered saying it’s not necessary at this time.

He sounds like a guy who engages with fans and that’s really all we can ask for.

Quoted from malkamalka

I briefly posed the question on supporter involvement in the form of special shareholding’s.

He answered saying it’s not necessary at this time.

He sounds like a guy who engages with fans and that’s really all we can ask for.

i saw your tweet, plus his response, and my immediate thought was that he's got things under control.
i hold on to the hope (despite my despair over events) that stockwood and pettit , being far richer, cleverer (is that a word?) and with a team far,far more able than fenty could even dream of, will pull the iron out of the fire
despite my gloom , when my head regains control over my heart, i cannot believe that they will be 'done over' by Fenty's plotting. Few things i cling on to
a) the pair are far richer than jsf could  ever imagine and will have access to a premiership team of lawyers, accountants, media people etc.
b) they will have dealt with people of Fenty's level/morals/ability and will have eaten them for breakfast and spat them out
c) more prosaically Hurst has nailed his colours to the mast. he is a consortium man, and i can't see him staying on if JSF continues to have any influence
d) Stockwood is a fan and he cannot failed to have registered that if he were to allow Fenty to stay on, they would, in a nano second, lose the mountain of goodwill with fans that they'd built up
e) there are no doubt a number of clever, legal solutions to satisfy Fenty's concerns, whilst dispensing with his involvement in the club

finally a very minor point, and it all depends on your opinion of Felipe Noche (who, i'd remind you only joined us 4 days after Fenty claimed he was giving up). He's obviously a Shiitestirrer, but interesting tonight he's changed his tune slightly  , and says that Fenty doesn't want to stay on. IF that's the case then maybe JSF has been affected by the hate that has cascaded upon his head?

certainly whatever happens there's a great book to be written about this torturous episode!

Quoted from forza ivano

finally a very minor point, and it all depends on your opinion of Felipe Noche (who, i'd remind you only joined us 4 days after Fenty claimed he was giving up). He's obviously a Shiitestirrer, but interesting tonight he's changed his tune slightly  , and says that Fenty doesn't want to stay on. IF that's the case then maybe JSF has been affected by the hate that has cascaded upon his head?

It’s extremely sad that people underestimate the damage that can occur to people’s health. Not least of all their mental health.

That’s all

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

It’s extremely sad that people underestimate the damage that can occur to people’s health. Not least of all their mental health.

That’s all

I agree my mental health has suffered under the reign of the principal funder, he’s ruined countless weekends

Hate me for this but I genuinely believe JF has tried his best and done what he thinks is right for GTFC.... Sadly, he's made many mistakes along the way and it's cost the club alot financially, emotionally and physically. I don't hate JF. Infact I do still have some form of respect for him to even 'lend' the money to the club to keep us afloat at that time. But, he doesn't help himself but at the same time a small minority of fans abusing him is disgraceful. I do hope this pulls through and we all get a fresh start whatever division we are in.

Quoted from lukeo

Hate me for this but I genuinely believe JF has tried his best and done what he thinks is right for GTFC.... Sadly, he's made many mistakes along the way and it's cost the club alot financially, emotionally and physically. I don't hate JF. Infact I do still have some form of respect for him to even 'lend' the money to the club to keep us afloat at that time. But, he doesn't help himself but at the same time a small minority of fans abusing him is disgraceful. I do hope this pulls through and we all get a fresh start whatever division we are in.

That’s quite comforting.

On the financial side, and I’ve said it before, you cannot gauge the financial support just by the amounts written down in a balance sheet or P&L. The extent by which John has been a financial crutch to this club is incredible. Things he has paid for out of his own pocket. Things around the club, for the team, the community project, the Academy. It goes on and on. When people have been short of things, he’s made sure that they aren’t short through personal funding. When cash has been tight, John has put the money in on so many short term occasions, and taken it back when the cashflow has improved. You just do not see these things in the published accounts as they are things that just flow in and out of nominal accounts.

So those that moan about the loans and the shares just do not know the reality of the other things he’s done.

Then away from football, he has used his business expertise in steering the business away from perilous debt, and then kept it stable and sustainable. But because people are so blinded by league tables, all of that just gets swept under the carpets by his critics. It’s as though none of that matters to them.

He’s had difficult business management decisions to make too, and sometimes those decisions don’t make you popular, and he gets that. That’s part and parcel of being the boss in any business. Whether it’s a wage decision on a player, or a back room staff decision, or a call on whether to franchise off the catering. These are all business decisions that someone has to make, and sometimes they aren’t popular. But I guarantee you this, his list of accommodating and good business decisions, far outweighs any decisions that haven’t been popular.

He’s a good man. Passionate about his club. He’s but his heart and soul behind supporting our club in every way he could. And so it’s extremely sad to see the hate and threats that are directed at him. Very sad, and quite disturbing

The hate shown is just plain wrong and is so typically Grimsby. It’s the element of Grimsby that gives us such an undesirable name

Quoted from lukeo

Hate me for this but I genuinely believe JF has tried his best and done what he thinks is right for GTFC.... Sadly, he's made many mistakes along the way and it's cost the club alot financially, emotionally and physically. I don't hate JF. Infact I do still have some form of respect for him to even 'lend' the money to the club to keep us afloat at that time. But, he doesn't help himself but at the same time a small minority of fans abusing him is disgraceful. I do hope this pulls through and we all get a fresh start whatever division we are in.

Sorry mate but you think you are either very naive or ignorant of what has happened. The man got into bed with a known fraudster.

That’s before we get into the litany of everything else he’s said and done.

Quoted from lukeo

Hate me for this but I genuinely believe JF has tried his best and done what he thinks is right for GTFC.... Sadly, he's made many mistakes along the way and it's cost the club alot financially, emotionally and physically. I don't hate JF. Infact I do still have some form of respect for him to even 'lend' the money to the club to keep us afloat at that time. But, he doesn't help himself but at the same time a small minority of fans abusing him is disgraceful. I do hope this pulls through and we all get a fresh start whatever division we are in.

I was thinking exactly the same, some Some people seem to have nothing better to do than stir up hatred.
Nobody deserves to be treated like this, Being the boss does not always win you a popularity contest
All of these pathetic  threats are a disgrace.  I hate where we  are at the moment but time for solidarity.
One way or another the football club will survive, most of us will continue to support and life goes on. Time for sanity to prevail. This is Football not War
Easter is a great time for new beginnings. regardless of some moans about not going next season, I have changed my mind. I am still going ,unconditionally ,regardless of ownership
Utm

Quoted from lukeo

Hate me for this but I genuinely believe JF has tried his best and done what he thinks is right for GTFC.... Sadly, he's made many mistakes along the way and it's cost the club alot financially, emotionally and physically. I don't hate JF. Infact I do still have some form of respect for him to even 'lend' the money to the club to keep us afloat at that time. But, he doesn't help himself but at the same time a small minority of fans abusing him is disgraceful. I do hope this pulls through and we all get a fresh start whatever division we are in.

It was definitely in the club's best interests, and definitely didn't benefit him at all, to threaten to sell Liam Hearn unless he got given £200K worth of shares for free. And Alex May was a reformed character of course. Christ, the idea that Fenty has ever acted in the best interest of anyone but himself should have sailed for good in December.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

He’s a good man.

Nope.

Quoted from Zmariner

I was thinking exactly the same, some Some people seem to have nothing better to do than stir up hatred.
Nobody deserves to be treated like this, Being the boss does not always win you a popularity contest
All of these pathetic  threats are a disgrace.  I hate where we  are at the moment but time for solidarity.
One way or another the football club will survive, most of us will continue to support and life goes on. Time for sanity to prevail. This is Football not War
Easter is a great time for new beginnings. regardless of some moans about not going next season, I have changed my mind. I am still going ,unconditionally ,regardless of ownership
Utm

The 2nd half of this post is one of the reasons why I fear we will be stuck with Fenty for many more years and we will eventually end up in the national League north or below.

Why does JF want any further involvement in the club?

This comes across as someone that’s gone through a divorce and is still hung up on his ex wife, even though she is now in bed with someone that has a schlong 10x his

Or maybe that bloke woogie out of something about Mary

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

That’s quite comforting.

On the financial side, and I’ve said it before, you cannot gauge the financial support just by the amounts written down in a balance sheet or P&L. The extent by which John has been a financial crutch to this club is incredible. Things he has paid for out of his own pocket. Things around the club, for the team, the community project, the Academy. It goes on and on. When people have been short of things, he’s made sure that they aren’t short through personal funding. When cash has been tight, John has put the money in on so many short term occasions, and taken it back when the cashflow has improved. You just do not see these things in the published accounts as they are things that just flow in and out of nominal accounts.

So those that moan about the loans and the shares just do not know the reality of the other things he’s done.

Then away from football, he has used his business expertise in steering the business away from perilous debt, and then kept it stable and sustainable. But because people are so blinded by league tables, all of that just gets swept under the carpets by his critics. It’s as though none of that matters to them.

He’s had difficult business management decisions to make too, and sometimes those decisions don’t make you popular, and he gets that. That’s part and parcel of being the boss in any business. Whether it’s a wage decision on a player, or a back room staff decision, or a call on whether to franchise off the catering. These are all business decisions that someone has to make, and sometimes they aren’t popular. But I guarantee you this, his list of accommodating and good business decisions, far outweighs any decisions that haven’t been popular.

He’s a good man. Passionate about his club. He’s but his heart and soul behind supporting our club in every way he could. And so it’s extremely sad to see the hate and threats that are directed at him. Very sad, and quite disturbing

The hate shown is just plain wrong and is so typically Grimsby. It’s the element of Grimsby that gives us such an undesirable name

I’m not sure you can say the alleged behaviour of 1 or 2 individuals is representative of Grimsby.

The whole May thing was a disgrace... I cannot deny that. The Hearn thing I must have missed, I never understood the whole cencept around the £200k shares, only what I've read on here

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

That’s quite comforting.

On the financial side, and I’ve said it before, you cannot gauge the financial support just by the amounts written down in a balance sheet or P&L. The extent by which John has been a financial crutch to this club is incredible. Things he has paid for out of his own pocket. Things around the club, for the team, the community project, the Academy. It goes on and on. When people have been short of things, he’s made sure that they aren’t short through personal funding. When cash has been tight, John has put the money in on so many short term occasions, and taken it back when the cashflow has improved. You just do not see these things in the published accounts as they are things that just flow in and out of nominal accounts.

So those that moan about the loans and the shares just do not know the reality of the other things he’s done.

Then away from football, he has used his business expertise in steering the business away from perilous debt, and then kept it stable and sustainable. But because people are so blinded by league tables, all of that just gets swept under the carpets by his critics. It’s as though none of that matters to them.

He’s had difficult business management decisions to make too, and sometimes those decisions don’t make you popular, and he gets that. That’s part and parcel of being the boss in any business. Whether it’s a wage decision on a player, or a back room staff decision, or a call on whether to franchise off the catering. These are all business decisions that someone has to make, and sometimes they aren’t popular. But I guarantee you this, his list of accommodating and good business decisions, far outweighs any decisions that haven’t been popular.

He’s a good man. Passionate about his club. He’s but his heart and soul behind supporting our club in every way he could. And so it’s extremely sad to see the hate and threats that are directed at him. Very sad, and quite disturbing

The hate shown is just plain wrong and is so typically Grimsby. It’s the element of Grimsby that gives us such an undesirable name

So Phil, what first attracted you to the millionaire John Fenty?

Quoted from Zmariner

I was thinking exactly the same, some Some people seem to have nothing better to do than stir up hatred.
Nobody deserves to be treated like this, Being the boss does not always win you a popularity contest
All of these pathetic  threats are a disgrace.  I hate where we  are at the moment but time for solidarity.
One way or another the football club will survive, most of us will continue to support and life goes on. Time for sanity to prevail. This is Football not War
Easter is a great time for new beginnings. regardless of some moans about not going next season, I have changed my mind. I am still going ,unconditionally ,regardless of ownership
Utm

Well said

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

That’s quite comforting.

On the financial side, and I’ve said it before, you cannot gauge the financial support just by the amounts written down in a balance sheet or P&L. The extent by which John has been a financial crutch to this club is incredible. Things he has paid for out of his own pocket. Things around the club, for the team, the community project, the Academy. It goes on and on. When people have been short of things, he’s made sure that they aren’t short through personal funding. When cash has been tight, John has put the money in on so many short term occasions, and taken it back when the cashflow has improved. You just do not see these things in the published accounts as they are things that just flow in and out of nominal accounts.

So those that moan about the loans and the shares just do not know the reality of the other things he’s done.

Then away from football, he has used his business expertise in steering the business away from perilous debt, and then kept it stable and sustainable. But because people are so blinded by league tables, all of that just gets swept under the carpets by his critics. It’s as though none of that matters to them.

He’s had difficult business management decisions to make too, and sometimes those decisions don’t make you popular, and he gets that. That’s part and parcel of being the boss in any business. Whether it’s a wage decision on a player, or a back room staff decision, or a call on whether to franchise off the catering. These are all business decisions that someone has to make, and sometimes they aren’t popular. But I guarantee you this, his list of accommodating and good business decisions, far outweighs any decisions that haven’t been popular.

He’s a good man. Passionate about his club. He’s but his heart and soul behind supporting our club in every way he could. And so it’s extremely sad to see the hate and threats that are directed at him. Very sad, and quite disturbing

The hate shown is just plain wrong and is so typically Grimsby. It’s the element of Grimsby that gives us such an undesirable name

I'm sure that some or maybe all of this is true but it's a very myopic, one sided view.

Much of the fan's ire around Fenty is based on his arrogance, his appalling communication, his unshakeable belief that he is right and that the fans need to understand that they are an income stream who should pay but not be heard.

Add to that the situation with the Trust shares, May/Holloway/Town Centre Living, the constant bull about a new ground and regular reports of players being short changed or lied to and you have a man who has burned any goodwill with the fans.

And then you have the "league table" situation. Fenty's period as principle funder has been one of stagnation at best but mostly of us going backwards. And we have reached another low point as we are very close to losing our league status AGAIN under him.

If there have been death threats I utterly oppose them but I won't sit by and accept Fenty as some sort of white knight. He is a malignant and regressive force acting on the club.

I see Comical Ali’s up and about early today. Potentially need a re-education session from the Ministry For Propaganda though - how can Fenty be simultaneously a business genius that has delivered a financially sustainable club, whilst also funding swathes of the club’s activities out of his own pocket on an ad-hoc basis?

Bobby Cummings Tackle sums up my view perfectly,  The post accurately captures the position we are in now.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

That’s quite comforting.

On the financial side, and I’ve said it before, you cannot gauge the financial support just by the amounts written down in a balance sheet or P&L. The extent by which John has been a financial crutch to this club is incredible. Things he has paid for out of his own pocket. Things around the club, for the team, the community project, the Academy. It goes on and on. When people have been short of things, he’s made sure that they aren’t short through personal funding. When cash has been tight, John has put the money in on so many short term occasions, and taken it back when the cashflow has improved. You just do not see these things in the published accounts as they are things that just flow in and out of nominal accounts.

So those that moan about the loans and the shares just do not know the reality of the other things he’s done.

Then away from football, he has used his business expertise in steering the business away from perilous debt, and then kept it stable and sustainable. But because people are so blinded by league tables, all of that just gets swept under the carpets by his critics. It’s as though none of that matters to them.

He’s had difficult business management decisions to make too, and sometimes those decisions don’t make you popular, and he gets that. That’s part and parcel of being the boss in any business. Whether it’s a wage decision on a player, or a back room staff decision, or a call on whether to franchise off the catering. These are all business decisions that someone has to make, and sometimes they aren’t popular. But I guarantee you this, his list of accommodating and good business decisions, far outweighs any decisions that haven’t been popular.

He’s a good man. Passionate about his club. He’s but his heart and soul behind supporting our club in every way he could. And so it’s extremely sad to see the hate and threats that are directed at him. Very sad, and quite disturbing

The hate shown is just plain wrong and is so typically Grimsby. It’s the element of Grimsby that gives us such an undesirable name

In your make-believe world you seem to be blissfully unaware that everytime you come to Fenty's defence you highlight just how appallingly the club has been run - it is quite comical to see for the rest of us, but you just don't understand.

Take this post from you - all the things you seem to find so wholesome and gratifying about Fenty is in reality an owner who is scrabbling about putting sticking plasters all over the place to hide the fact that everything is run on a shoestring. It would be great if the things he was doing was the icing on the cake of a well run and well-structured club, but he is doing them to make every penny go further and to make sure his loans to the football club are the bare minimum. The fans pay for the club and he is there as a second rate back up.

We don't want a make do and mend approach anymore. I don't want Jason Stockwood climbing up the pylons to change a bulb, or showing what a dab hand he is at DIY. We want a professional football club run in the correct manner without cutting every corner going; we want to be updated, to bring us into line with most league clubs in the country and not to be a laughing stock anymore.

Your mate has brought the football club to its knees; even people like me after a lifetime of supporting and spending money at times I could ill afford following my team are on the verge of throwing in the towel, and that towel will certainly be thrown if Fenty is anywhere near the club come August.

It is heartbreaking how such a person as Fenty, in business partnerships with convicted fraudsters, having to step down from the council and turning Grimsby Town into a music hall joke still seems to think he has something to offer. It is a sick joke.

Don't feed the troll.

Fenty has driven us to new lows, with this latest i don’t think we will ever recover.
A lost generation of fans and a demoralised fans base.
Our reputation to attract any players is in the gutter.

I can see us dropping again like a York or Stockport.

Quoted from mariner91

It was definitely in the club's best interests, and definitely didn't benefit him at all, to threaten to sell Liam Hearn unless he got given £200K worth of shares for free. And Alex May was a reformed character of course. Christ, the idea that Fenty has ever acted in the best interest of anyone but himself should have sailed for good in December.

It was certainly a Damascene moment for me when I learnt of the Liam Hearn/Trust situation. Prior to that I thought that JSF had the clubs best interests at heart . That certainly changed when he allegedly "leaned " on The Trust as regards the Mike Parker shares ( I use the term " allegedly" for legal reasons ). That , to me , demonstrated that his only concern was for his own needs and not the welfare of the club. Like many others ,if he is still pulling the strings of GTFC next season then I don't think I will renew my ST .

If he did have the clubs best interests at heart, why can't he sell the club for a pound?
Christ the man is 60year old. Surely he'd get greater satisfaction from giving it away and improving the club considering the turmoil he's caused. He's literally given the club nothing.
The 2.5m is then invested in the club or such like. He gets part of the deal if they decide to sell in the future.

Quoted from lukeo

The whole May thing was a disgrace... I cannot deny that. The Hearn thing I must have missed, I never understood the whole cencept around the £200k shares, only what I've read on here

I’d hate to have been your teacher. Sounds like you were constantly gazing out of the window. 😂

Luke lad, can you now tell us what happened in the Great Share Blag of 2012?

Homework for this week is to write an essay on why the Great Share Blag and Maygate are not consistent with a man who was a great custodian. Extra marks for appropriate references to Ambulancegate, Shut that Door Nick, Macca’s Paycut, and My Car Cost More than Your House.

I far as I understand it Fenty wants good ole Phil in the boardroom to look after his loan repayment. What I don't understand is that the Trusts appointed directors cannot tell anybody what is said due to protocol etc. So how would Phil be able to tell Fenty?

Surely the same protocols etc. would apply and Phil would have to keep his mouth shut like he's done for most of the last 12 weeks.

Quoted from DB

I far as I understand it Fenty wants good ole Phil in the boardroom to look after his loan repayment. What I don't understand is that the Trusts appointed directors cannot tell anybody what is said due to protocol etc. So how would Phil be able to tell Fenty?

Surely the same protocols etc. would apply and Phil would have to keep his mouth shut like he's done for most of the last 12 weeks.

What exactly has led you to believe JF wants PD to remain in place?

Fenty has got to go or the takeover is not a takeover they are just board members like the rest.

Nobody can work with Fenty  unless they are bottom lickers and Jason and Andrew are defiantly not that.

Just go John take your benign loans with you and sit on a desert island somewhere far away.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

What exactly has led you to believe JF wants PD to remain in place?

I seem to recall someone posting words to that effect regarding a possible reason why Shutes backed out at the last minute.

Quoted from DB

I seem to recall someone posting words to that effect regarding a possible reason why Shutes backed out at the last minute.

All speculation and all completely rubbish

For goodness sake give it at rest you lot. You know not what you are talking about. It’s just an unattractive pit of hate, rumour, speculation, and a desire to hurt

Just give it a rest for goodness sake

Haven’t you got anything better to do than continually trying to batter a man

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

All speculation and all completely rubbish

For goodness sake give it at rest you lot. You know not what you are talking about. It’s just an unattractive pit of hate, rumour, speculation, and a desire to hurt

Just give it a rest for goodness sake

Haven’t you got anything better to do than continually trying to batter a man

Well, he's got more balls than you because we know his true name.

The last 20 years was real!  And we all know who is responsible for that.

Quoted from DB

Well, he's got more balls than you because we know his true name.

DB you hide behind a pseudo name and you are nothing other than a bully yourself. Just like any number of people on this message board that pedal hate.

It’s absolutely constant with you. Your capacity to cause a person hurt is beyond the pale

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

DB you hide behind a pseudo name and you are nothing other than a bully yourself. Just like any number of people on this message board that pedal hate.

It’s absolutely constant with you. Your capacity to cause a person hurt is beyond the pale

Look into a mirror, then look at what have just posted and you see the person who it refers to.

Quoted from DB

Look into a mirror, then look at what have just posted and you see the person who it refers to.

Absolute shameless bile. It’s incessant

  Phillippe I am past  reacting to you,but  must state you do really speak a load of  crap.I would tell your mate John to read up on Erikson's theory of ego integrity he is  of the age when it will become relevant.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

What exactly has led you to believe JF wants PD to remain in place?

That’s one of the rumours doing the rounds. Another variant of Fenty wants to stay in the board with a 200,000 shareholding until the last instalment of his loan is paid off.

Phil says it’s not true. If it’s not true maybe someone can put our facts right. Now I don’t believe what Felipe Nonces says, because he says he’s not connected with the club (assuming he’s telling the truth on this bit*).

So how about Getyourfactsright? Let’s hear it straight from the horse’s mouth. If it’s not true you want to hang on in any capacity come and tell us John. Tell us straight and put the rumours to bed.

* of course if it’s not true that he isn’t connected to the club, he’s lying anyway!

Quoted from KingstonMariner

That’s one of the rumours doing the rounds. Another variant of Fenty wants to stay in the board with a 200,000 shareholding until the last instalment of his loan is paid off.

Phil says it’s not true. If it’s not true maybe someone can put our facts right. Now I don’t believe what Felipe Nonces says, because he says he’s not connected with the club (assuming he’s telling the truth on this bit*).

So how about Getyourfactsright? Let’s hear it straight from the horse’s mouth. If it’s not true you want to hang on in any capacity come and tell us John. Tell us straight and put the rumours to bed.

* of course if it’s not true that he isn’t connected to the club, he’s lying anyway!

There are enough idiots on this message board without encouraging their King to return.

Let me ask you the question I have asked  before Philippe which you have conveniently neglected to answer.Did John Fenty know of Alex May's convictions,before forming a company with him.
He either knew and felt they were insignificant.
Or didn't know which shows a shocking lack of due diligence.

Which one was it..

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

All speculation and all completely rubbish

For goodness sake give it at rest you lot. You know not what you are talking about. It’s just an unattractive pit of hate, rumour, speculation, and a desire to hurt

Just give it a rest for goodness sake

Haven’t you got anything better to do than continually trying to batter a man

No

Quoted from friskneymariner

Let me ask you the question I have asked  before Philippe which you have conveniently neglected to answer.Did John Fenty know of Alex May's convictions,before forming a company with him.
He either knew and felt they were insignificant.
Or didn't know which shows a shocking lack of due diligence.

Which one was it..

Why does that even matter?

Explain to me where there is a law against forming a limited company (non-trading incidentally), with someone that has a criminal record?

What concern should it ever have been to any single GTFC fan, since Alex May was never going to have any board, or managerial executive powers over or within Grimsby Town Football Club?

Are you aware of anyone else that supports Grimsby Town FC in any way, be that fan, investor or shareholder, that has a criminal record? Think very carefully.

Is this some sort of moral high ground, that has been heavily flavoured and weighted, merely to used as another John Fenty hate hammer to bash him with. It’s comical the way that people will grab hold of this sort of stuff to support their angst.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Why does that even matter?

Explain to me where there is a law against forming a limited company (non-trading incidentally), with someone that has a criminal record?

What concern should it ever have been to any single GTFC fan, since Alex May was never going to have any board, or managerial executive powers over or within Grimsby Town Football Club?

Are you aware of anyone else that supports Grimsby Town FC in any way, be that fan, investor or shareholder, that has a criminal record? Think very carefully.

Is this some sort of moral high ground, that has been heavily flavoured and weighted, merely to used as another John Fenty hate hammer to bash him with. It’s comical the way that people will grab hold of this sort of stuff to support their angst.

No law against it, as you well know. Just speaks volumes about morals, integrity and sheer arrogance.

It is a matter of personal integrity(you may have to look that concept up),nobody has to  look very hard to find hammers to beat him up,he provides plenty himself.
Nothing improper with introducing a convicted fraudster to the Local Authority of which that person was deputy leader ,the same council that would be granting regeneration funds .Think you must have been sitting near a magnet too long your moral compass is totally distorted.

I’m baffled how and why anyone would try and put a gloss on the Alex May saga. Also, why so much use of the hate word? I don’t believe anyone with any morsel of humanity on this board hates John Fenty but hates what has happened to the club under his tenure.

Quoted from friskneymariner

It is a matter of personal integrity(you may have to look that concept up),nobody has to  look very hard to find hammers to beat him up,he provides plenty himself.
Nothing improper with introducing a convicted fraudster to the Local Authority of which that person was deputy leader ,the same council that would be granting regeneration funds .Think you must have been sitting near a magnet too long your moral compass is totally distorted.

Oh so now John Fenty introduced Alex May to the council did he?

You sure about that?

Classic example of passive aggression displayed by Filippe here instead of answering the question he has to turn St John the Martyr into the victim.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Classic example of passive aggression displayed by Filippe here instead of answering the question he has to turn St John the Martyr into the victim.

Where is the aggression ?

Go on, read that comment again and explain how it is aggressive?

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Oh so now John Fenty introduced Alex May to the council did he?

You sure about that?

Alex May said so when he was interviewed by David Burns on BBC Radio Humberside.

I know he’s a twice convicted fraudster but I don’t see why we should question him when he says Fenty introduced him to council officials.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Where is the aggression ?

Go on, read that comment again and explain how it is aggressive?

Oh dear you haven't grasped the concept of passive aggression have you .Sorry for overestimating your intelligence.

I see old Fingers Nonces is at it again. Defending the indefensible.

If anyone normal was getting this much abuse, they’d start to question what it was about their own behaviour. You know, have a bit of self-doubt. Not for Nonces and his boss.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Why does that even matter?

Explain to me where there is a law against forming a limited company (non-trading incidentally), with someone that has a criminal record?

What concern should it ever have been to any single GTFC fan, since Alex May was never going to have any board, or managerial executive powers over or within Grimsby Town Football Club?

Are you aware of anyone else that supports Grimsby Town FC in any way, be that fan, investor or shareholder, that has a criminal record? Think very carefully.

Is this some sort of moral high ground, that has been heavily flavoured and weighted, merely to used as another John Fenty hate hammer to bash him with. It’s comical the way that people will grab hold of this sort of stuff to support their angst.

I would be very concerned on going into business with someone sent to prison for financial fraud especially some twit who conned pensioners, they are the lowest of the low and speaks volumes of someone who tried to get into bed with them in a business that involves thousands of people who spend their hard earned money supporting it.

In Nonce’s head, ethics is that county south of Thuffolk.

Every time you judge someone else, you reveal an unhealed part of yourself. When someone judges you, it isn’t actually about you. It’s about them and their own insecurities, limitations, and need.

The hatred with what so many speak and write in here is toxicity itself. You can taste it as soon as start reading messages in here and it’s disturbing. Really disturbing.

You know what. Hate has caused a lot of problems in the world, but it has not solved one yet.

Keep hating folks, but it really won’t do you any good. It really won’t. You’ll just keep hating the slightest thing that you don’t like the taste of in your club. No matter how small, and no matter who is at the top. It’s madness, it really is.

Farewell