Montel Gibson

Quoted from ska face

What’s any of that got to do with these people being “professional rioters” and you swallowing the line?

You’ve said it yourself - the police ARE far from perfect. One of their main problems is that they lie constantly, all day every day, and you don’t have to go back to Hillsborough or Orgreave to find examples.

Remember when we were playing away at Chesterfield and the police put out a communication to the effect that a number of pubs were off limits to away fans because town fans had smashed them up? Which turned out to be a complete and utter lie. Just made up. And for what reason? Oh, because it suited them.

So what's your analogy of the riots in Bristol and people not obeying covid laws.

Quoted from DB

So what's your analogy of the riots in Bristol and people not obeying covid laws.

What he's saying is that there isn't any evidence that they were 'professional rioters'. Missiles were available locally. We all know how police forces can lie about incidents. Ska has given you examples. We also know how they can over-react to protests, causing them to escalate (witness Clapham Common). We know how they can unjustly treat peaceful protestors (and innocent bystanders). We've all seen how they can operate at and around football matches.

Now I don't know who sparked it off in Bristol, but I have enough scepticism about the police from a lifetime of observations that I have my doubts about the official version.

Having said all that, I don't know why a police station was chosen as the scene of a protest, as it's Parliament that makes the laws.

Quoted from BenBB

Who gives? Happy for the lad. Can go to a supermarket mobbed with strangers but 10 people in a house all of a sudden is irresponsible. Most of his pictures are outside too.

you need to go to the supermarket to get food, you don't need 15 people inside your house to announce the sex of your baby wearing what I can only describe as a tracksuit that constituted a sackable offense on its own.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

What he's saying is that there isn't any evidence that they were 'professional rioters'. Missiles were available locally. We all know how police forces can lie about incidents. Ska has given you examples. We also know how they can over-react to protests, causing them to escalate (witness Clapham Common). We know how they can unjustly treat peaceful protestors (and innocent bystanders). We've all seen how they can operate at and around football matches.

Now I don't know who sparked it off in Bristol, but I have enough scepticism about the police from a lifetime of observations that I have my doubts about the official version.

Having said all that, I don't know why a police station was chosen as the scene of a protest, as it's Parliament that makes the laws.

Let’s not forget the sometimes mind boggling approaches taken and enforced. Crawley away...could have a glass with a pint before 2pm but once it gets to 2pm the pub have to start using plastic ‘on police advice’.

Of course, we’ve seen examples of decent police work, especially at football but in all the years I/we’ve been going the good is dwarfed by the odd/bad and bizarre.

As for a gender reveal party, what a crock of excrement. That day comes when the little thing pops out...

Quoted from KingstonMariner

As others have said you don’t need to be committing acts of violence for the police to use violence against you.

The people at Clapham May have been committing a crime but the police clearly used disproportionate force. Ironic really given the reason for the vigil in the first place was because a copper had allegedly murdered a woman in the street.

Have you ever been in a position where you was involved in containing 100s of people throwing whatever they can find at you?  If not, then you should stfu as you have NO IDEA what it involves.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

As others have said you don’t need to be committing acts of violence for the police to use violence against you.

So I guess the police set fire to their own vans and injured each other?

Quoted from 123614

So I guess the police set fire to their own vans and injured each other?

Agreed.
I watch the clips to get an objective view, the rioters were well out of order. Not sure how their actions can be defended on this occasion.What are they supposed to do sit back,Get battered and burned utm

Quoted from 123614

Have you ever been in a position where you was involved in containing 100s of people throwing whatever they can find at you?  If not, then you should stfu as you have NO IDEA what it involves.

Those girls in Clapham must be some of these professional rioters, as even a keen amateur wouldn’t have been able to throw items at the police, behind them, with their hands gripping the bandstand, before they were dragged away and pinned to the floor.

Quoted from 123614

Have you ever been in a position where you was involved in containing 100s of people throwing whatever they can find at you?  If not, then you should stfu as you have NO IDEA what it involves.

There are a lot of things I haven't had personal experience of but it won't stop me having an opinion on them.

Just popping in to let you know Avon & Summerset police have quietly admitted that no officers suffered any broken bones on Sunday, contrary to their initial claims.

So, you know, a lie.

Thanks & all the best.