Covid vaccine

Quoted from Stadium

All good research & advice but the vast majority of people will ignore this & return to a form of normality as we are seeing now.

Btw is the person quoted on the Twitter feed a health professional?
He seems to be promoting mixing two different vaccines?
Article here about his non qualifications.yes he has access to Google.......

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/ihuman/covid-19-blog/what-does-covid-19-mean-expertise-case-tomas-pueyo

If Larry Brilliant thinks Tomas Pueyo knows his stuff when it comes to sorting the wheat from the chaff in the evidence, I'm inclined to believe that's the case. Brilliant is a public health expert who worked for the WHO during the eradication of smallpox.

As for mixing of vaccine types, that is fundamentally the way in which the Russian Sputnik vaccine works - two different vaccines based off two different adenoviruses and this should provide a broader immune response. Despite all the propaganda and nonsense spouted by the Russian investment fund which is promoting the Sputnik vaccine, it is technically a pretty good one. Only issue is that they don't have the production capacity and scaling issues are obviously causing them problems.

No doubt that we'll be looking at mixing the vaccine types in the near future and Oxford has been testing this:

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021.....sponse-against-covid

The Germans look set to authorise mixing soon:

https://www.reuters.com/world/.....-variant-2021-07-02/

If 'booster' doses of vaccines are to be given later in the year, I think that plenty of us will be receiving different vaccine types to those received in our earlier doses. Possibly AZ/Pfizer/Moderna/Novavax/Valneva.

Longer-term, the efficacy of the mRNA vaccines means we'll probably end up getting those a lot of the time, but alternatives are always a good thing.

More experts recommending that masking is continued:

https://www.theguardian.com/wo.....ts-as-simple-as-that

As Prof Paul Hunter notes in that article about mask wearing:

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Estimates vary but they probably reduce transmission somewhere between 10 and 25%.

Doesn't sound a lot, eh? But with R0 rate currently around 1.4, a 25% reduction in transmission would save a massive number of forward infections and a 10% reduction would save a lot of infections.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

In any event, as the Telegraph piece pointed out, the microscopic covid particles can easily get through the holes in the masks, brand new or not.

But the Telegraph article was completely incorrect. In fact, much of the stuff they've been putting out as 19th July approached is nothing more than ludicrous propaganda. Well, even more ludicrous coming from the Telegraph which long since lost any claim to be interested in fact.

Quoted from Maringer

But the Telegraph article was completely incorrect. In fact, much of the stuff they've been putting out as 19th July approached is nothing more than ludicrous propaganda. Well, even more ludicrous coming from the Telegraph which long since lost any claim to be interested in fact.

But much of the stuff put out in general has been propaganda. Experts telling us one thing and doing the other, incompetent leaders telling us one thing, doing the other. Obsession with Covid death rates but ignoring anything else that has caused large amounts of deaths, tack and trace that doesn’t work. People losing jobs left right and centre for what? Businesses on their bottom? Social care and education systems on a knife edge Becauee of incompetent leadership and a virus that will never go away yet people don’t seem to want to figure a way of going back to normal and cracking on.

It’s all been orchestrated and plenty of science argues against those things…Christ, even the hospitals have given up.

Quoted from aldi_01

But much of the stuff put out in general has been propaganda. Experts telling us one thing and doing the other, incompetent leaders telling us one thing, doing the other. Obsession with Covid death rates but ignoring anything else that has caused large amounts of deaths, tack and trace that doesn’t work. People losing jobs left right and centre for what? Businesses on their bottom? Social care and education systems on a knife edge Becauee of incompetent leadership and a virus that will never go away yet people don’t seem to want to figure a way of going back to normal and cracking on.

It’s all been orchestrated and plenty of science argues against those things…Christ, even the hospitals have given up.

The trouble with the experts is they lose their sense of perspective. They are human and have the same failings as the rest of us with their own prejudices and view of the world; from a scientific position everything seems straightforward - do xyz and certain things will happen. Trouble is, when those things meet the real world, it breaks down. Take mask wearing. Maringers expert thinks it does a good job. If I took him to Aldi he would see people not wearing them, half wearing them, touching them, adjusting them, taking them off to get a breath of fresh air. He would see people with visors, he would see people with fancy scarves over their nose and mouth to look cool, he would see in my case a GTFC fabric mask which I know is no good but I also appreciate the whole thing is a nonsense - in the real world. The experts don't seem to live in that world. Everyone wearing a high grade, brand new mask every time they went shopping might make a difference, but it will never happen.  

Covid has a 99% survival rate. Of course it is terrible for those affected, and those who have lost loved ones, but the vast, vast majority of people who have died have had a range of other problems and the biggest factor is old age. That is the way nature works.

Every adult in the UK has been offered the vaccine. Hospital admissions remain low; deaths remain low. The damage being done to the economy, peoples mental health, children's anxieties, other illnesses that have been ignored leading to death, perfectly fit and healthy people being tortured by worrying about a ping from a ludicrous app. Schoolchildren losing time they will never get back. Businesses are going bust every day; the present situation is completely unsustainable and as Sir Graham Brady said the other day masks are there to put the fear of God into people and to coerce them into believing death is around every corner.

We have to get back to normal PDQ or there will not be a normal to go back to.

Freedom day, the first customer in my newsagent went in with no mask, that's their choice. Then coughs on purpose in front of the shop asst., who's wearing a mask.

I seriously would not want the idiot to get covid but would recommend him for a brain transplant.

Covid is more than likely here to stay, just as the flu is. We need people to act sensibly and if you need to cough, or blow your nose, then do it into a tissue and bin the tissue. People should be respectful of the health of others.

Quoted from DB

Freedom day, the first customer in my newsagent went in with no mask, that's their choice. Then coughs on purpose in front of the shop asst., who's wearing a mask.

I seriously would not want the idiot to get covid but would recommend him for a brain transplant.

Covid is more than likely here to stay, just as the flu is. We need people to act sensibly and if you need to cough, or blow your nose, then do it into a tissue and bin the tissue. People should be respectful of the health of others.

It's probably stuff like this which is going to cause more and more agro in the next month or so. People who have picked a pro or anti mask side and want to over emphasize it in shops/on public transport.

I mean I sneezed in the supermarket but it’s impossible for me to do that on purpose…

The woman stood shaking her head Becauee people were just going in, not wasting their time cleaning trolleys, getting their excrement and leaving was hilarious…

He's back with an updated prediction but zero credibility.

https://www.theguardian.com/wo.....own-strategy-england

Quoted from Maringer

But the Telegraph article was completely incorrect. In fact, much of the stuff they've been putting out as 19th July approached is nothing more than ludicrous propaganda. Well, even more ludicrous coming from the Telegraph which long since lost any claim to be interested in fact.

Important words: *some, *cloth masks.
Proper face masks worn correctly do work.