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The consortium cannot have hired Hurst as they don't own the club - it is impossible. And yes, Hurst did leave the club due to Fenty's stinginess but that doesn't automatically mean he could never work for the club again - it wasn't a chickengate-level fallout. There are only so many jobs in professional football management, I'm sure he was more than happy for a club to hire him again. His records at Scunny and Ipswich were not good, but Ipswich was, at the time, in all sorts of turmoil (still is by some accounts) and Hurst isn't the first to have found working with Swann intolerable. Prior to those two, his record is excellent.

Yes, Hurst brought in pretty much all of this (current) team. As he said at the time, though, there are only so many players who would be willing to join a club at the wrong end of League Two. There's also a reason he only gave out short-term deals - regardless of whether we stayed up, many would not be here next season.

Fans post about tweets from the consortium because we're excited about their taking over. I'm looking forward to seeing the back of Fenty as much as the next Town fan but, as hard as it is, we just need to be patient.


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The idea that Hurst "took six years" to get us out of the National League is a little bit of a misnomer. Yes, it was not until 15/16 that we actually earned promotion, but, after an 11th-placed finish in his (and Scott's) first full season, we were straight into the play-offs in 12/13. We all know the cliche about the play-offs being a lottery, so we could have easily gone up that year. To get into the play-offs in four out of five full seasons, and four on the bounce, is a pretty good effort and shows that he knows how to *consistently* achieve results at that level.

I know that we'd love to see some free-flowing football at the same time but, personally, I'd rather just get out of the flipping league and surely a manager who has proven experience of that should be the way to go. Plus you'd like to think, with some progressive owners at the helm, we might take to non-league a little better than last time.
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I think that reply means you've run out of "logical" arguments  
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‘ We all know the cliche about the play-offs being a lottery,’

Yeah logic baby!


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The idea that Hurst "took six years" to get us out of the National League is a little bit of a misnomer. Yes, it was not until 15/16 that we actually earned promotion, but, after an 11th-placed finish in his (and Scott's) first full season, we were straight into the play-offs in 12/13. We all know the cliche about the play-offs being a lottery, so we could have easily gone up that year. To get into the play-offs in four out of five full seasons, and four on the bounce, is a pretty good effort and shows that he knows how to *consistently* achieve results at that level.

Best argument yet for hanging on to Hurst, whatever happens
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Quoted from moosey_club
Hurst is Plan B isnt he ?

So technically we should be referring to Plan C as the next plan


Ironic that Hurst is plan b considering he never has one himself
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Can honestly say i'v been one of a few optimistic fans thinking we can climb out of trouble but if we lose at carlisle on tuesday & then again at home to colchester on saturday then it's national league for sure , the most dissapointing aspect for me is the league this year is tosh , how the f--k we ended up in this situation , think it could take us a few yrs again to get back as well !!!GUTTED
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Plan B Curtis Woodhouse  with Nathan Arnold as his assistant certainly bring some pride and passion back.


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Quoted from Garth
The idea that Hurst "took six years" to get us out of the National League is a little bit of a misnomer. Yes, it was not until 15/16 that we actually earned promotion, but, after an 11th-placed finish in his (and Scott's) first full season, we were straight into the play-offs in 12/13. We all know the cliche about the play-offs being a lottery, so we could have easily gone up that year. To get into the play-offs in four out of five full seasons, and four on the bounce, is a pretty good effort and shows that he knows how to *consistently* achieve results at that level.

Best argument yet for hanging on to Hurst, whatever happens


So only a 25% success rate of winning the play-offs?
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Quoted from Garth
The idea that Hurst "took six years" to get us out of the National League is a little bit of a misnomer. Yes, it was not until 15/16 that we actually earned promotion, but, after an 11th-placed finish in his (and Scott's) first full season, we were straight into the play-offs in 12/13. We all know the cliche about the play-offs being a lottery, so we could have easily gone up that year. To get into the play-offs in four out of five full seasons, and four on the bounce, is a pretty good effort and shows that he knows how to *consistently* achieve results at that level.

Best argument yet for hanging on to Hurst, whatever happens


I didn't/don't have inside information on our or other teams budgets, but I would imagine we had a top 5 budget every year we were in the conference. Admittedly not the biggest budget (there was usually a Crawley/Fleetwood/Luton chucking money at it) but surely consistently a top 5/top 6 budget?

So therefore the expectancy would be to finish in the play-offs every year. Good managers achieve over and above expectations that are dictated by budgets or status - hence why league tables dont always just finish top-to-bottom exactly in line with budgets.

A competent manager, which I would've classed Hurst as until the last few months, would achieve around about where your budget dictates you should be. If we go down again, I'd rather have someone who will be able to over-achieve and win that division. Or at least threaten to.

One final point and one not specifically aimed at you Garth, as its a common cliche, but the play offs are not a lottery. The team who performs best and is more effective throughout the play off competition wins promotion. Labelling them as a lottery is what managers who aren't successful in them do.


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