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KingstonMariner
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1% pay rise for the NHS. 1 flipping per cent. We can waste billions on systems provided by our mates that don’t work but we can’t afford to reward you for the best year ever performed by the NHS.


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It's just another disgraceful act by a government that hasn't a clue how to actually govern the country but hey we got Brexit done.

How can you urge the population to come out and applaud the wonderful NHS and it's staff, at the front line of the fight against this pandemic, and then say oh thanks a lot here's 1% of the pittance you already get and don't moan because you got clapped and sometimes people bashed pans.


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To me it's always a no win for NHS staff. Firstly they always get offered a pittance as the gov. of the day know that the staff have a conscious of caring. Secondly if, and that is a big IF, they all went on strike at the same  time ( and I can never see that happening) then people would die.

Relatives of the deceased would then point fingers at staff saying that you killed my relation. Nobody considers the amount of anguish staff go through. They are taken for granted and covid has proved that. Court orders for parking charges instead of a pay rise, that probably wouldn't cover the parking charges.

1% of £30K, £6 per week is not worth a clap or appreciation. % mean very little to those on low pay so £20 per week each would show some appreciation for their dedication over the last 12 months. And don't forget the govt will claw some that back in income tax etc,


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Typical Tories, always wanting something for nothing.

Just braindead too, as the NHS staffing shortages are no secret with 38,000 nursing vacancies alone. This will obviously get worse and the decent people who go into the national health service will just find work elsewhere. Who’s going to suffer then? It’ll be the great unwashed who have to use the NHS, and not those with private healthcare.
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Typical Tories, always wanting something for nothing.

Just braindead too, as the NHS staffing shortages are no secret with 38,000 nursing vacancies alone. This will obviously get worse and the decent people who go into the national health service will just find work elsewhere. Who’s going to suffer then? It’ll be the great unwashed who have to use the NHS, and not those with private healthcare.


Thats what the Tories have wanted since Maggies time. Create a two tier health system, use the NHS to train the staff, gradually cut funding to the NHS, as long as those that can afford to pay are catered for. This means they can cut public service funding and reduce taxes and NI contributions and move to a more American style Insurance based system.


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Forgive my asking but isn’t this a slow handclap requested by the unions?


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We’re talking about the hypocrisy of those Tories who were seen jumping on the weekly claps for the ‘NHS heroes’ and then giving these ‘heroes’ a pittance of a pay award.

We all knew it was going to happen this way last year. But those of who vote Tory didn’t want to know.


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We’re talking about the hypocrisy of those Tories who were seen jumping on the weekly claps for the ‘NHS heroes’ and then giving these ‘heroes’ a pittance of a pay award.

We all knew it was going to happen this way last year. But those of who vote Tory didn’t want to know.


Chase a few of the big corporations who exploit tax loopholes would be a start. The trouble is the government are sh** scared to upset the likes of Amazon.


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We’re talking about the hypocrisy of those Tories who were seen jumping on the weekly claps for the ‘NHS heroes’ and then giving these ‘heroes’ a pittance of a pay award.

We all knew it was going to happen this way last year. But those of who vote Tory didn’t want to know.


You can hardly call it a pittance!
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You can hardly call it a pittance!


If what I've read is correct it equates to about £3.50 per week (prepared to be proved wrong).
I am in the very fortunate position as someone who is retired to be able to pay £3.50 for a take-away coffee.
I'd consider that to be the very dictionary definition of a pittance.


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