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February 27, 2021, 8:17pm
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plus the 2 penalties they should've had. i would've been seething if the roles were reversed .
the depressing thing is that we have now played 5 consecutive 45 minutes of dross.
the improvement under Hurst is marginal at best. The keeper has definitely improved things and we look a bit stronger all round.The front 2 are obviously an upgrade to gree/jackson/gibson, but that's hardly a vote of confidence - they still don't look like scoring
We still can't pass, create chances, defend or score.
He's had 4 weeks working with the new team and there's still no cohesion or chinks of light. It's a side that's bottom of the table for a reason and their co commentator didn't take long to realise it and point out our inadequacies



A very good summing up of our situation. I can only say that we don't look like scoring because Hursty plays a 10 man defence. The best defence is ATTACK.


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plus the 2 penalties they should've had. i would've been seething if the roles were reversed .
the depressing thing is that we have now played 5 consecutive 45 minutes of dross.
the improvement under Hurst is marginal at best. The keeper has definitely improved things and we look a bit stronger all round.The front 2 are obviously an upgrade to gree/jackson/gibson, but that's hardly a vote of confidence - they still don't look like scoring
We still can't pass, create chances, defend or score.
He's had 4 weeks working with the new team and there's still no cohesion or chinks of light. It's a side that's bottom of the table for a reason and their co commentator didn't take long to realise it and point out our inadequacies


Nail on the head, very disappointed at the fact we are really no better now then when Hurst took over. Was never his biggest fan but thought he would get us organised and a few 1-0 wins would follow and whilst I appreciate that playing Morais may have been a risk could Scannell have not played that role? Seems he’s been totally discarded but he can play and not having him on the bench is IMO, a mistake.

Anybody know where Bennett is with his recovery?
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Utter bilge!
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“We can’t pass, create chances, defend or score”.

A very damming indictment there in just 9 words.  We are c rap at other things as well.

Another I read said that the team is totally lacking in confidence.  This is interesting.  It is not the same players consistently failing since the season started.  We have a new team.  Starting afresh.  Not tainted by a string of poor results.

Why should they be totally lacking in confidence?  They have a new manager who should be energised as well.  

If Man City had a completely new team I would not expect them to win every game.  Why are we still very dire with a new team?
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“We can’t pass, create chances, defend or score”.

A very damming indictment there in just 9 words.  We are c rap at other things as well.

Another I read said that the team is totally lacking in confidence.  This is interesting.  It is not the same players consistently failing since the season started.  We have a new team.  Starting afresh.  Not tainted by a string of poor results.

Why should they be totally lacking in confidence?  They have a new manager who should be energised as well.  

If Man City had a completely new team I would not expect them to win every game.  Why are we still very dire with a new team?


Being at/near the bottom of the league will create additional pressure.

However possible amassing 1.5 ppg is, that will still create additional pressure.

Not trying to make excuses but pointing out that confidence will naturally be relatively low because of our position and the points requirement.
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Being at/near the bottom of the league will create additional pressure.

However possible amassing 1.5 ppg is, that will still create additional pressure.

Not trying to make excuses but pointing out that confidence will naturally be relatively low because of our position and the points requirement.


I understand where you are coming from. This is new team with a new manager and no garbage to bring with it. The points on the board when they arrived was not a reflection on their ability. Confidence should be reasonably high as should comradery as they have had a few weeks together now. The other thing is that when they came they knew the position of the club, it wasn't a surprise to them.

I can no longer think of a justifiable reason for an excuse.  


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Looking at the table it’s surprising that we are still in touch but after another terrible performance and strange team selection I’m finding it hard to think we’ll avoid the drop. So depressing.......
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In my personal opinion the injuries to Wright and Clifton have come at a bad time. We know both will give 150% every game which we need right now, it means so much to them. They are what we need in a relegation battle. And before the Clifton bashers start, remember he played a hugh role in our escape under Jolley. He has done it all before. Question is does Hurst rate them? Well I hope he does. The team needs an identify, I don't want it full of loan players that benefits the parent club and not us.
It has long been discussed about the quality of youth coming through the ranks. Now I completely understand the argument that playing some of them now could knock confidence etc. but is there any harm in looking at one or two? Can they be worse than the first team? You never know we may just find a star.
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We could have gone 4-4-2, lost 2-0 and folk would be saying Hurst got it wrong, their wingers were causing havoc, should have gone 5-3-2.

You just have to trust that Hurst goes with the line up and formation he thinks will be best on the day. We could have nicked a point with some composure, but the truth is, and this is hard to swallow, that Harrogate are better than us and have won 4 out of 6.

Didn't think we would win today personally. Just hoped that others down the wrong end didn't pick up any wins and they didnt.

Hard to imagine I know, but there are 3 teams below us in the form table.
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Didn't watch today, but it was a hard listen.  

I kind of get the starting line-up.  Harrogate's threat came from long-throws and set pieces and in general the 3 centre-backs seemed to protect against that from what I can gather.  We just didn't seem to have any midfield whatsoever.  I didn't hear El Mizouni or Coke's name once all game.  

Going into today I would have taken a draw.  Harrogate are in decent form and are a well coached side, I remember them playing us off BP earlier in the season.  A point here and a win on Tuesday against a well out-of-form Orient would have given us 7 out of 9, 3 unbeaten - a real booster - and I felt that Hurst might have been ensuring we didn't get well beaten and destroy any confidence gained from Crawley.  Still, a win on Tuesday still gives us 2 wins from 3 which I would be ecstatic about.  Two big games next week.

Hopefully we can play to our strengths against Orient and our creative players can affect the game far more than today.
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