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Northbank Mariner
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Add Spokes and Williams to that list.


Actually Spokes offers something, thought he did okay today, give him a few games he'll come good, Williams however I expected more of, couple of decent dribbles but most at the end of them..
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Actually Spokes offers something, thought he did okay today, give him a few games he'll come good, Williams however I expected more of, couple of decent dribbles but most at the end of them..


I haven’t seen that in Spokes but like you say he needs a few games on the bang.


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I haven’t seen that in Spokes but like you say he needs a few games on the bang.


I especially watched him today, he's good with the ball, holds it well but he needs to learn to come for the ball, a couple of passes he waited for the ball to come to him and we know in leagues football you don't get that time, he's a player I think will improve dramatically under Hurst and Doig to be honest..
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I think Hurst was dealt a bad hand when he came in and I think he is a decent manager, but he knew what he was getting into. Among many other things, a managers job is to find a way motivate people. I don't think quality players are lining up to come here, so he has to rely on what he's got. If individuals haven't got the skills needed, all that can be done in the short term is to get them playing as a team, wanting to play, working for each other with a great team spirit to make up for what's lacking in individual skills. That can go along way.

Hurst didn't help matters when upon arrival, he stated that the team weren't good enough and he would have to bring in 7/8 new players! Whilst that may have been his honest assessment, he didn't have to make it public, unless he thought that would motivate his players? With new signings proving difficult to bring in, I hope he can find some way of motivating the players that we have. UTMM!!
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I think Hurst was dealt a bad hand when he came in and I think he is a decent manager, but he knew what he was getting into. Among many other things, a managers job is to find a way motivate people. I don't think quality players are lining up to come here, so he has to rely on what he's got. If individuals haven't got the skills needed, all that can be done in the short term is to get them playing as a team, wanting to play, working for each other with a great team spirit to make up for what's lacking in individual skills. That can go along way.

Hurst didn't help matters when upon arrival, he stated that the team weren't good enough and he would have to bring in 7/8 new players! Whilst that may have been his honest assessment, he didn't have to make it public, unless he thought that would motivate his players? With new signings proving difficult to bring in, I hope he can find some way of motivating the players that we have. UTMM!!


I suspect he’s got a free pass to next season together with a hefty bonus to keep us up. There’s no other explanation as to why he would take the job. Clearly, according to Swann’s interview the other evening, he was still on the Scunny payroll till he moved to us.
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He’s not flipping Jesus. This lot needs putting down. They’re flipping abysmal.


Oh, they’re going down alright, don’t you worry about that.


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For those saying green  won't start again well Hurst had the chance to take him off at half time after seeing the performance we all watched, and chose to send him out for the second half.

I can't explain it either but looks like Hurst feels green is the least worst option of green Gibson Jackson.

Personally I'd give either of the others a chance (and I am by no means saying I think either of the others are league 2 standard).

I would actually rather play Hanson on his own and 5 in midfield.
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I think Hurst was dealt a bad hand when he came in and I think he is a decent manager, but he knew what he was getting into. Among many other things, a managers job is to find a way motivate people. I don't think quality players are lining up to come here, so he has to rely on what he's got. If individuals haven't got the skills needed, all that can be done in the short term is to get them playing as a team, wanting to play, working for each other with a great team spirit to make up for what's lacking in individual skills. That can go along way.

Hurst didn't help matters when upon arrival, he stated that the team weren't good enough and he would have to bring in 7/8 new players! Whilst that may have been his honest assessment, he didn't have to make it public, unless he thought that would motivate his players? With new signings proving difficult to bring in, I hope he can find some way of motivating the players that we have. UTMM!!


There has been no upturn at all has there - even in such a basic thing as motivation or even effort. Fell away badly at Vale, today of course, never got going in any of the other games either. I think we have scored 1 consolation goal, haven't we?

You normally get some response from players when a new manager comes in, but it is as flat as a pancake.

Despite our perilous position it looked like a good opportunity for Hurst to make a quick impression by playing a standard system, settled team and make us much harder to break down and beat.

No wonder he was an angry man today, if what he normally does at clubs has fallen on deaf ears what does he do?

I still cannot get my head around why the players are SO bad. There is nothing there - even the experienced players look like they have never played the game before.

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Hurst didn't help matters when upon arrival, he stated that the team weren't good enough and he would have to bring in 7/8 new players! Whilst that may have been his honest assessment, he didn't have to make it public, unless he thought that would motivate his players? With new signings proving difficult to bring in, I hope he can find some way of motivating the players that we have. UTMM!!


This is spot on for me the mistake Hurst made from the start. Almost from the first minute he made it very clear he thought the players were not good enough. Now he may well be right, but with morale already low and many players out of contract end of the season  they probably instantly thought I am finished here. He should of sent out a message of the slate is clean for everyone,  prove to me you are good enough not only for this season but to be part of my plans next year. Imagine being told now in your job that in 4 months time you will be out of work. Your not going to be as motivated are you? I don't for one second want him sacked or blame him for this mess, but I think this was a mistake. Like it or not, most players are not playing for him, that was plainly clear today. As a result I don't think he can keep selecting some players who are obviously gone end of season. What that leaves us with I don't know, but we need 11 prepared to fight every second, and apart from Pollock, Wright, Clifton and maybe Hendrie, I don't see any more.
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I think Hurst was dealt a bad hand when he came in and I think he is a decent manager, but he knew what he was getting into. Among many other things, a managers job is to find a way motivate people. I don't think quality players are lining up to come here, so he has to rely on what he's got. If individuals haven't got the skills needed, all that can be done in the short term is to get them playing as a team, wanting to play, working for each other with a great team spirit to make up for what's lacking in individual skills. That can go along way.

Hurst didn't help matters when upon arrival, he stated that the team weren't good enough and he would have to bring in 7/8 new players! Whilst that may have been his honest assessment, he didn't have to make it public, unless he thought that would motivate his players? With new signings proving difficult to bring in, I hope he can find some way of motivating the players that we have. UTMM!!


Absolutely! the majority on here we’re  so sure Hurst was going to be the returning messiah they would rather give him a free pass then admit (if we get relegated) they were wrong. This was pretty much the same Scunny team we beat a month ago, yet today we got totally outplayed without barely mustering a shot on target.
I really hope he can turn this around and keep us up (the minimum job requirements) but ultimately if we do get relegated the buck stops with him.
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