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GollyGTFC
January 23, 2021, 10:38am

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I fully expect a u turn. The latest statement is obviously designed to push this.


3 million people have fallen through the cracks of the government's various job retention schemes and grants for self employed people. It's nearly a year in to this mess and they haven't u-turned to help those people. What makes you think they are going to backtrack and help 66 National League clubs?

How this government works is they using polling companies to check how policies are effecting their polling numbers in key constituencies. If it's damaging them they will then do a u-turn. The National League fiasco won't effect their numbers. Therefore I would be amazed if they did a u-turn.
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January 23, 2021, 10:42am
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It will cost the government more to furlough the staff including players than it would to continue. I wouldn't bank on a u-turn not happening


But then would it be good politics of them to give taxpayer money to keep a football season going and arguably risking spreading the virus even further as they don’t have testing.

It’s hardly a high profile Marcus Rashford style campaign that has forced u-turns in previous months.


Up The Mariners!
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The EFL will not accept any sort of truncated National League this season. Not a chance. All 3 EFL divisions will complete in full. And the NL will be required to do the same or there will be no promotion or relegation.

Also, remember EFL rules require a club losing it's membership (i.e. being relegated from League 2) has a league to play in. If crowds aren't back by August then the NL will not start and the relegated clubs won't have a league to play in.

Therefore the EFL will demand a full completion on the NL this season & a 100% cast iron guarantee that next season's NL will start on time & be completed in full. Very unlikely the former will happen or proof of the latter could be offered.


I completely agree that there needs to be a league to relegate the teams to. However, I'm not convinced that the FL will reject promotion from the NL based on a truncated season. Barrow and Harrogate are here after all. If the NL conclude their season in any sort of form, eg. just playing everyone else once, then they could put forward two teams to be promoted. The FL may reject them but there's at least a conversation to be had and I wouldn't bet much against them being admitted to the league.
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3 million people have fallen through the cracks of the government's various job retention schemes and grants for self employed people. It's nearly a year in to this mess and they haven't u-turned to help those people. What makes you think they are going to backtrack and help 66 National League clubs?

How this government works is they using polling companies to check how policies are effecting their polling numbers in key constituencies. If it's damaging them they will then do a u-turn. The National League fiasco won't effect their numbers. Therefore I would be amazed if they did a u-turn.


Don’t get me wrong, I hope you’re right. I’m just very pessimistic at the moment.
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I can only quote Hurst'y words about Town which refer to the national set up "It's a mess".


You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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I completely agree that there needs to be a league to relegate the teams to. However, I'm not convinced that the FL will reject promotion from the NL based on a truncated season. Barrow and Harrogate are here after all. If the NL conclude their season in any sort of form, eg. just playing everyone else once, then they could put forward two teams to be promoted. The FL may reject them but there's at least a conversation to be had and I wouldn't bet much against them being admitted to the league.


Last season the National League completed as much of their season as the EFL did at L1 & L2 level. The EFL will 100% expect the same this season. And "the same" this season means completing the season in full.

Remember last season there was no promotion and relegation between National League North/South & the 4 "Premier Divisions" below. And that will be repeated this season. Why should the NL expect 2 promotion places when they haven't promoted any sides into their own league for 2 years?
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Last season the National League completed as much of their season as the EFL did at L1 & L2 level. The EFL will 100% expect the same this season. And "the same" this season means completing the season in full.


They accepted 2 teams from a league that didn't complete last season. I just don't get why you're so certain that they have to complete as much as the FL to get 2 promotion places again.
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https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/sport/national-league-rule-out-loan-options-241244/

This article suggests National League teams won't be able to go much longer without grants, of which there doesn't seem to be any switch by the DCMS as yet.
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As long as the Prem keeps going to distract people and improve morale.  It is also very high profile.  The Gov don’t care about very low-level football.  There are much bigger fish to fry.
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Said this before,just cannot believe all those executives that run the different leagues did not have any agreed plans for what the different scenarios would be before the season started. That way everyone knows where they stand.
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