Tory Vermin

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Windows 11 has been available for a few months.  

Wouldn't bother with Windows 11 myself. Win 10 doesn't work properly most of the time yet! Win 10 will be supported for another 3 and a half years at least so keep your PC going if it's still working OK.

At work we use pretty old PCs and everything works absolutely fine on them.

Try clearing cookies for The Fishy. That will probably fix the issue. This link tells you how to do it:

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/clear-cookies-in-microsoft-edge-for-a-specific-website/

Thanks.

Think my PC just needs a good tune up and clear out. I'll give all suggestions a go on Sunday when I have more time.

Quoted from ska face

You think the Tories are going to keep Johnson in for another couple of years after his personal ratings dropped below those Corbyn had at the end of his leadership?

They’ll let him carry the can for an awful set of local elections in May, plus tax and energy bill rises in April, and they’ll jettison him.

It’s short termism from Starmer, who’s enjoying his poll lead at the minute but not dragging anywhere near enough Tory support over. He’s got no offer, which is why Tories are turning to “don’t know” rather than the Tory-lite party.

You’re operating under the false premise that 54 (or 53 after the defection yesterday changed the arithmetic) letters going into Graham Brady.will finish Johnson off.

It would just trigger a yes/no vote in Johnson. The conceived wisdom was always that if a leader didn’t get the backing of around 2/3rds of MPs then the leader would resign. Theresa May got just 63% when she faced a vote of no confidence, but even though it was just below the level she had privately set herself for resignation she carried on.

Johnson won’t have that belief that he requires a good majority to carry on. He’d carry on as normal if we wins by 1 vote. Give me one example where Boris Johnson has played by any of the conceived rules of life. I refer you to what one of his masters at Eton said about him in a letter to his father.

It’s going to take 1 of 2 things to get rid of Johnson before May 2024. 1) He resigns. Very unlikely even if Sue Gray’s report is as bad as it appears it will be for him. He didn’t care about COVID rules so why would he voluntarily follow rules on ministerial standards? And 2) He’s forced out by a mass cabinet resignation. Again unlikely as he’s filled his cabinet with spineless sycophants and over promoted incompetent MPs who wouldn’t get such senior roles with any other PM. You might get the odd one or two resign but not enough to cause more than a minor wobble.

If they don’t jettison Johnson now it won’t happen. I’m about 60/40 that it will be Johnson v Starmer in May 2024.

Johnson would have loved a no confidence vote before Sue Gray’s report is published. That way he would have won the vote and be safe from another vote for a year. But for the defection it probably would have been triggered yesterday. Which is exactly why Starmer & Labour timed it hours before the letters would have gone in. And it worked. It made enough Tory MPs wobble and delay.

And all this Tory-lite rubbish is as boring now as it was back in 1945. Eden won 2 elections but wasn’t considered left wing enough for some. And Harold Wilson faced the same criticism when he was PM with the left wing bitter about what would have happened if Hugh Gaitskill hadn’t died. And I don’t need to explain about Tony Blair do I? Eventually the penny will drop and people will realise that Labour will never win an election with a proper old school socialist as leader. Labour wins when they dominate the middle ground with a centre-left leader.

I’m in the camp of wanting a Labour government doing what they can rather than being unelectable and in endless opposition.

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And all this Tory-lite rubbish is as boring now as it was back in 1945. Eden won 2 elections but wasn’t considered left wing enough for some. And Harold Wilson faced the same criticism when he was PM with the left wing bitter about what would have happened if Hugh Gaitskill hadn’t died. And I don’t need to explain about Tony Blair do I? Eventually the penny will drop and people will realise that Labour will never win an election with a proper old school socialist as leader. Labour wins when they dominate the middle ground with a centre-left leader.

I’m in the camp of wanting a Labour government doing what they can rather than being unelectable and in endless opposition.

Just goes to show then that the old adage of only a homosexual paper difference between the party’s is sadly quite true especially at the present time. Middle ground is just a continuation of the same excrement. Those voters that want to see real change with true Labour/Conservative values implemented are just wasting their votes on these shills. You’ve only got to look at the recent defection to confirm my point an honourable politician would never cross to a party they are diametrically opposed.

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Just goes to show then that the old adage of only a homosexual paper difference between the party’s is sadly quite true especially at the present time. Middle ground is just a continuation of the same excrement. Those voters that want to see real change with true Labour/Conservative values implemented are just wasting their votes on these shills. You’ve only got to look at the recent defection to confirm my point an honourable politician would never cross to a party they are diametrically opposed.

Haha. You think Johnson’s government is in the centre ground of UK politics? We have a government who wants allowing protests to be in the gift of the Home Secretary.

And diametrically opposed? That only applies to the minority of people on the far fringes who have tunnel vision about what the world should be like. The majority who go into politics are actually good, honest people who do it to make the country a better place for the people they represent.

Just because the Conservatives have fallen to a leader who doesn’t have that decency or sense of public service and Labour did previously doesn’t mean the majority aren’t in it for the right reasons.

Coincidentally, about an hour before the defection was announced a Labour voting caller from the Bury South constituency phoned in to James O’Brien on LBC and was praising Christian Wakefield as a good, hardworking MP. A good example that some people can see through the colour of the rosette.

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And all this Tory-lite rubbish is as boring now as it was back in 1945. Eden won 2 elections but wasn’t considered left wing enough for some. And Harold Wilson faced the same criticism when he was PM with the left wing bitter about what would have happened if Hugh Gaitskill hadn’t died. And I don’t need to explain about Tony Blair do I? Eventually the penny will drop and people will realise that Labour will never win an election with a proper old school socialist as leader. Labour wins when they dominate the middle ground with a centre-left leader.

I’m in the camp of wanting a Labour government doing what they can rather than being unelectable and in endless opposition.

Oh I do apologise that wanting a change in the material conditions of life, and seeing parliamentary politics as a way of achieving this, is boring to you. I’ll just let you get on with this Punch & Judy show, red/blue charade that you seem to find much more comforting.

Energy bills are going up by as much as £1500 a year in April. Starmer’s BIG OFFER is temporarily cutting this by the 5% VAT on top. This after he stood on a platform of “common ownership” of utilities in his leadership bid. Forgive me for stating that this is absolute píss, not even the crumb’s off the master’s table, and makes fúck all difference to anyone’s life regardless of what colour rosette he’s wearing.

And this from the party who are supposedly meant to represent the collective force of labour in this country? You and the rest of the rubes are welcome to it.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Haha. You think Johnson’s government is in the centre ground of UK politics? We have a government who wants allowing protests to be in the gift of the Home Secretary.

And we have a Labour Party that voted against a free speech bill! You vote Red you get Blue and vice versa.

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And diametrically opposed? That only applies to the minority of people on the far fringes who have tunnel vision about what the world should be like. The majority who go into politics are actually good, honest people who do it to make the country a better place for the people they represent.

You only have to look at the career history of some of these MP’s to understand why they are so out of touch with their electorate. I don’t doubt some of them are good, honest people likewise they’re are many purely there for self interest first and foremost and will feel very comfortable on the middle ground.

I actually sympathies with Corbyn voters who wanted real change and I’ve no doubt he was serious, I’ve also no doubt he would of been an absolute disaster but that’s just my opinion, the point is he offered a genuine alternative.
Unlike Johnson who hoodwinked the voters he was supposed to be the tough radical opposite of Corbyn, but NO ..middle ground continuation was always going to be his default and yes I fell for it more the fool me.

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Coincidentally, about an hour before the defection was announced a Labour voting caller from the Bury South constituency phoned in to James O’Brien on LBC and was praising Christian Wakefield as a good, hardworking MP. A good example that some people can see through the colour of the rosette.

Is this the same bloke the caller was talking about?

What we are seeing is a paradigm shift whereby the Labour Party no longer represents those working-class communities. It is no longer listening to those working-class voters. Thankfully, on this side of the Chamber we do listen.”

Christian Wakefield, 20th July 2021

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Is this the same bloke the caller was talking about?

What we are seeing is a paradigm shift whereby the Labour Party no longer represents those working-class communities. It is no longer listening to those working-class voters. Thankfully, on this side of the Chamber we do listen.”

Christian Wakefield, 20th July 2021

There’s no point having a mind if you can’t change it.

Quoted from ska face

Oh I do apologise that wanting a change in the material conditions of life, and seeing parliamentary politics as a way of achieving this, is boring to you. I’ll just let you get on with this Punch & Judy show, red/blue charade that you seem to find much more comforting.

Energy bills are going up by as much as £1500 a year in April. Starmer’s BIG OFFER is temporarily cutting this by the 5% VAT on top. This after he stood on a platform of “common ownership” of utilities in his leadership bid. Forgive me for stating that this is absolute píss, not even the crumb’s off the master’s table, and makes fúck all difference to anyone’s life regardless of what colour rosette he’s wearing.

And this from the party who are supposedly meant to represent the collective force of labour in this country? You and the rest of the rubes are welcome to it.

This is a big part of why Labour were unelectable. Calling people scum because they don’t believe in the Socialist utopian dream they have and wondering why they wouldn’t vote for that party in a general election.

I couldn’t care less what his voting record is like if he’s realised (for whatever reason) that his former party has damaged, is damaging and will continue to damage the lives of millions and millions of people in this country and had defected to a party that cares for and will put the hardworking low paid and the vulnerable in our society first.

I have never lived in poverty, but I can assure you from my life experiences that people in poverty live from day to day. They are worried about heating their homes today, not fixing the  whole system so a couple of years down the line things will be better.

Thatcher didn’t change Britain forever the day after she was elected. She did what she did slowly over more than a decade and 3 good majority election wins. Worth remembering.

Starmer just isn't radical enough for my liking and the guy could put a glass eye to sleep. However, the electorate have shown they have no appetite for a left wing government, so it's a choice of either the Tories or watered down Tories.

Anyone even slightly left leaning will be destroyed by the Tory press and the electorate will lap it up unfortunately. They can't seem to grasp that the Tories don't give a flying fook about them.

Corbyn's policies weren't even that left wing but he had no chance. I recently listened to a podcast he did with Alexei Sayle and some of the stuff he cited that the press reported about him was laughable. One of the most bizarre was a newspaper that claimed he had a Maoist bicycle.

For Corbyn, read Milliband or 'Red Ed' as the papers called him. Then there is Foot and Kinnock before them.

I always think Back to John Smith and the way British politics would have gone had he not died suddenly. Would almost certainly have won the election and things may have turned out differently for our country.

I think I’ve had this discussion with you before as I seem to remember thinking you were being performatively stupid. There’s no way you can believe a single word of what you’ve just written and I really fear for you, and the rest of of the country, if you do.

Starmer’s Labour will put the nation’s “hardworking and vulnerable” first? Rachel Reeves said Labour in 2015 would be harder than the Tories on benefit claimants. Yvette Cooper, recently brought back to the front bench, introduced the dehumanising and demeaning fit-for-work assessments as a way of punishing people back into work. Wes Streeting only last week promoted greater privatisation of health care. Both he and Starmer are linked to funders who have a major interest in private healthcare. Almost the entire PLP abstained on the welfare bill in 2015. Starmer ignored the Royal College of Nurses’ requests for a 15% pay increase and recommended a miserly 2.1%.

The worst thing is how gullible you must be to have swallowed the line that a fair living wage, a programme of council house building and corporation tax in line with what is was under David Cameron is a “socialist utopia”. God help us.