|
|
 MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 3:03pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker  Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
|
 Logged |
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 3:08pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
I mean, legitimate fella wants to buy the club, crook turns up...we all know which way that goes...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| psgmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 3:09pm |
|
|
Posts: 10,122
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 73.33%
Rep Score: +39 / -15
Approval: +5,480
Gold Stars: 33
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| gytone |
| December 12, 2020, 3:13pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker  Posts: 847
Posts Per Day: 0.14
Reputation: 77.57%
Rep Score: +6 / -2
Approval: +1,020
Gold Stars: 7
|
Jeez, wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| promotion plaice |
| December 12, 2020, 3:15pm |
|
 ModeratorPosts: 19,625
Posts Per Day: 3.85
Reputation: 64.79%
Rep Score: +20 / -13
Location: Cleethorpes
Approval: +17,048
Gold Stars: 197
|
Jeez, wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.
Who's got a bargepole ? |
| When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?” |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 3:16pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| cardiffmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 3:17pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 664
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 81.8%
Rep Score: +10 / -2
Approval: +1,314
Gold Stars: 24
|
What a despicable scam. Why is he even being allowed in the ground? Very worrying.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| louth_in_the_south |
| December 12, 2020, 3:19pm |
|
 Exile Posts: 4,106
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 70%
Rep Score: +25 / -12
Location: Forest Row
Approval: +5,672
Gold Stars: 94
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 3:19pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Remember the ticket tout bloke that got involved...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Davec |
| December 12, 2020, 3:19pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker  Posts: 3,592
Posts Per Day: 1.17
Reputation: 65.33%
Rep Score: +15 / -10
Approval: +1,441
Gold Stars: 42
|
what if he pumps 5 million into the club?
and the money is found out to be legitimate money.
People can and do change
|
|
|
|
|
|
| HertsGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 3:25pm |
|
|
Posts: 14,089
Posts Per Day: 4.26
Reputation: 75.4%
Rep Score: +29 / -10
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +22,909
Gold Stars: 228
|
Non story ........ “but” this is GTFC of course.
What we need is a multi millionaire local business man who’s a Grimsby Town supporter not some fly by night spiv🙄
|
| "Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  |
|
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 12, 2020, 3:35pm |
|
 Vodka Drinker  Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
He would fit in quiet well i think  |
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| promotion plaice |
| December 12, 2020, 3:35pm |
|
Moderator
Posts: 19,625
Posts Per Day: 3.85
Reputation: 64.79%
Rep Score: +20 / -13
Location: Cleethorpes
Approval: +17,048
Gold Stars: 197
|
Selfish I know but I'm at the age where I'd welcome any new owner in, we are going nowhere under Mr Fenty.
|
| When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?” |
|
|
|
|
|
| Withnail |
| December 12, 2020, 3:37pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 556
Posts Per Day: 0.18
Reputation: 77.57%
Rep Score: +6 / -2
Approval: +1,453
Gold Stars: 36
|
What an absolute shambles. Utterly shameless of the club. Tell him to intercourse off and take his dirty cash with him.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| pontoonlew |
| December 12, 2020, 3:45pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,588
Posts Per Day: 1.01
Reputation: 72.45%
Rep Score: +37 / -15
Approval: +8,994
Gold Stars: 171
|
Disgraceful that we’ve let him into the club and typical of Fenty to do so
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 3:48pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Disgraceful that we’ve let him into the club and typical of Fenty to do so
Obviously the criminally inclined aren’t tyre kickers... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| HertsGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 3:50pm |
|
|
Posts: 14,089
Posts Per Day: 4.26
Reputation: 75.4%
Rep Score: +29 / -10
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +22,909
Gold Stars: 228
|
What an absolute shambles. Utterly shameless of the club. Tell him to intercourse off and take his dirty cash with him.
In their defence he’s only actually gone to watch the game in the pre COVID usual 4.000 there’s quite a few who have been guests of her majesty’s Anyway you don’t know he could be the new keeper. |
| "Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style |
|
|
|
|
|
| Hagrid |
| December 12, 2020, 3:51pm |
|
|
Posts: 11,986
Posts Per Day: 2.80
Reputation: 71.14%
Rep Score: +49 / -21
Approval: +20,384
Gold Stars: 532
|
The fact the club are even entertaining this is mind blowing. People can change and i get that, but convictions against the elderly, jog on pal and dont come back
|
|
|
|
|
|
| davmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 3:51pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,047
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 78.9%
Rep Score: +37 / -10
Approval: +4,911
Gold Stars: 79
|
Christ is there anything about us that isn’t a shambles? Fenty really is an amateur isn’t he?
|
| Up The Mariners! |
|
|
|
|
|
| SomeSanity |
| December 12, 2020, 3:52pm |
|
Lager Top Drinker  Posts: 234
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Approval: +855
Gold Stars: 1
|
Genuine quote from my lad:
"Who is this pillock and why is he attending games when no genuine Town fans are allowed?"
So my first question is has he got proof of 'non-dodgy' funds?
Secondly, why have the club's board chosen to entertain this fella and his people?
thirdly, given we have two Trust board members on the club's board they will be aware of this and must have an opinion... What is the Trust's opinion?
Until then I will abstain from having an opinion.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| grimps |
| December 12, 2020, 3:52pm |
|
balderdashWhiskey Drinker
Posts: 4,453
Posts Per Day: 0.79
Reputation: 57.6%
Rep Score: +21 / -19
Approval: +5,112
Gold Stars: 46
|
Whenever someone is interested in buying or taking over a football club you have to ask the question what’s in it for them ?
Other than the prestige or a bit of a hobby for a rich man what can he want with out Club ?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| LH |
| December 12, 2020, 3:53pm |
|
 ModeratorPosts: 11,475
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 71.54%
Rep Score: +30 / -13
Approval: +18,500
Gold Stars: 173
|
We’re an absolute circus aren’t we?
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| psgmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 3:53pm |
|
|
Posts: 10,122
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 73.33%
Rep Score: +39 / -15
Approval: +5,480
Gold Stars: 33
|
Served his time. Deserves a second chance...
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 3:54pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
what if he pumps 5 million into the club?
and the money is found out to be legitimate money.
People can and do change
If this guy invests in our club after Fenty and Day dissed Shutes then they will have killed the club. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 12, 2020, 3:55pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
No problem, we have a fraud in charge of the first team, he can be company for Coco.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 12, 2020, 3:57pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker  Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
Served his time, deserves rehabilitation.
My worry is his motive. He seems desperate to have a football club (Notts first now us) - why??
I’d favour someone local but they’ve hardly been queuing up.
|
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| davmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 3:57pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,047
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 78.9%
Rep Score: +37 / -10
Approval: +4,911
Gold Stars: 79
|
Served his time. Deserves a second chance...
And you’re really comfortable with letting this guy have a say in the running of our club? Let’s face if he’d hardly be investing out of the goodness of his heart... |
| Up The Mariners! |
|
|
|
|
|
| headingly_mariner |
| December 12, 2020, 3:57pm |
|
 Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,768
Posts Per Day: 0.98
Reputation: 64.4%
Rep Score: +34 / -21
Approval: +10,342
Gold Stars: 113
|
It’s all about retaining control of the club.
The other suitors wanted sole control of the club.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Croxton |
| December 12, 2020, 3:58pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker  Posts: 1,778
Posts Per Day: 0.75
Reputation: 78.46%
Rep Score: +14 / -4
Approval: +3,014
Gold Stars: 33
|
Served his time. Deserves a second chance...
Not with that name. I know an elderly person with that surname who was scammed for thousands two years ago. He can change his name back then stay away from Cleethorpes. |
|
|
|
|
|
| GrimRob |
| December 12, 2020, 3:59pm |
|
 ModeratorPosts: 12,672
Posts Per Day: 2.12
Reputation: 69.92%
Rep Score: +76 / -34
Approval: +13,403
Gold Stars: 113
|
Let's wait for the full story before we condemn him. He might be a Jean Valjean.
|
| 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
~ Alfred Lord Tennyson
|
|
|
|
|
|
| psgmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 4:01pm |
|
|
Posts: 10,122
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 73.33%
Rep Score: +39 / -15
Approval: +5,480
Gold Stars: 33
|
It’s Liam Hearn all over again.
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| HertsGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 4:04pm |
|
|
Posts: 14,089
Posts Per Day: 4.26
Reputation: 75.4%
Rep Score: +29 / -10
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +22,909
Gold Stars: 228
|
Genuine quote from my lad:
"Who is this pillock and why is he attending games when no genuine Town fans are allowed?"
So my first question is has he got proof of 'non-dodgy' funds?
Secondly, why have the club's board chosen to entertain this fella and his people?
thirdly, given we have two Trust board members on the club's board they will be aware of this and must have an opinion... What is the Trust's opinion?
Until then I will abstain from having an opinion.
He probably thought he’d get a game after Tuesday’s debacle |
| "Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style |
|
|
|
|
|
| Withnail |
| December 12, 2020, 4:07pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 556
Posts Per Day: 0.18
Reputation: 77.57%
Rep Score: +6 / -2
Approval: +1,453
Gold Stars: 36
|
Served his time. Deserves a second chance...
Preyed on elderly victims, fleeced them out of their life savings and probably hid a big chunk of his ill gotten gains before his time in clink which he's now no doubt using to fund his lifestyle. Second chance would be a job at McDonald's. |
|
|
|
|
|
| grimsby pete |
| December 12, 2020, 4:08pm |
|
 Exile Posts: 55,684
Posts Per Day: 9.80
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,797
Gold Stars: 222
|
Don't understand this at all.
If we are having this salary cap where would his money go if he is going to put money in ?
The only thing I can think of he can pay Fenty his money owed.
That gives us a good. Fenty has gone and a.bad we have a crook running out club.
I don't think Ollie will be pleased so I say thanks but no thanks.
On the other hand he has served his time and deserves a second chance.?
I am glad I don't have to make the decision.
|
| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
68 Years following the Town
Life member of Trust
First game April 1955
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Withnail |
| December 12, 2020, 4:12pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 556
Posts Per Day: 0.18
Reputation: 77.57%
Rep Score: +6 / -2
Approval: +1,453
Gold Stars: 36
|
In their defence he’s only actually gone to watch the game in the pre COVID usual 4.000 there’s quite a few who have been guests of her majesty’s
Anyway you don’t know he could be the new keeper.
Targeted vulnerable elderly victims. Fleeced them out of their life savings. How many of these types have been guests of the directors - at a time when fans can't attend - with a view to investing in the club? You'd have to be intellectually challenged not to forsee the potential PR disaster. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Tinymariner |
| December 12, 2020, 4:16pm |
|
 Whiskey Drinker Posts: 4,120
Posts Per Day: 0.74
Reputation: 90.63%
Rep Score: +30 / -2
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +1,456
Gold Stars: 12
|
All those who scream to get rid of Fenty are now complaining that a prospective owner is a crook and afraid we might sell to him! You can’t always get what you want, be careful what you wish for. BTW this guy should not even be entertained imo, I’d rather have JF than some dodgy businessman, oh, hang on 😉😉😉😉😂😂
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| SomeSanity |
| December 12, 2020, 4:19pm |
|
Lager Top Drinker Posts: 234
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Approval: +855
Gold Stars: 1
|
The more I think about this, the more questions I have:
Would here pass the EFL Fit and Proper Person test? Does he even need to pass it?
We can only speculate until The Trust say something because going off previous statements from the club seem to contradict themselves.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 4:22pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
Bearing in mind the average age of the Main Stand and his previous misdemeanours, we could be a perfect fit 🤨
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| wigworld |
| December 12, 2020, 4:37pm |
|
 Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,126
Posts Per Day: 0.58
Reputation: 89.01%
Rep Score: +32 / -3
Approval: +2,080
Gold Stars: 29
|
Fenty's inept, but as far as I'm aware, he's not a criminal (rehabilitated or otherwise).
|
|
|
|
|
|
| HertsGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 4:44pm |
|
|
Posts: 14,089
Posts Per Day: 4.26
Reputation: 75.4%
Rep Score: +29 / -10
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +22,909
Gold Stars: 228
|
Targeted vulnerable elderly victims. Fleeced them out of their life savings.
How many of these types have been guests of the directors - at a time when fans can't attend - with a view to investing in the club?
You'd have to be intellectually challenged not to forsee the potential PR disaster.
Did I say I approve of what he did? |
| "Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style |
|
|
|
|
|
| dapperz fun pub |
| December 12, 2020, 4:44pm |
|
|
Posts: 9,346
Posts Per Day: 1.59
Reputation: 84.95%
Rep Score: +37 / -6
Approval: +9,929
Gold Stars: 82
|
How do we know this guy is actually at the game ?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 4:46pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
I find it absolutely mind blowing that our majority shareholder and chairman, who both purport to be Grimsby Town fans, could consider allowing a convicted fraudster to invest in the club.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| headingly_mariner |
| December 12, 2020, 4:59pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,768
Posts Per Day: 0.98
Reputation: 64.4%
Rep Score: +34 / -21
Approval: +10,342
Gold Stars: 113
|
All those who scream to get rid of Fenty are now complaining that a prospective owner is a crook and afraid we might sell to him! You can’t always get what you want, be careful what you wish for. BTW this guy should not even be entertained imo, I’d rather have JF than some dodgy businessman, oh, hang on 😉😉😉😉😂😂
It’s going to be even worse than that, we are going to have both. Remember when this happens that other parties wanted to buy the club. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 12, 2020, 5:00pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 12, 2020, 5:01pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
How do we know this guy is actually at the game ?
Picture of him entering the ground on the tellywag |
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| m4riners |
| December 12, 2020, 5:06pm |
|
Coke Drinker  Posts: 13
Posts Per Day: 0.01
Approval: +26
|
A shambles all round. Ok, so the guy has served his time, and deserves a "second chance" of sorts. BUT he was convicted for fraud, and was not exactly a young lad who got caught up in something, he was in charge of the whole thing.
A convicted fraudster has no place anywhere near the running of or investment into a football club. His dirty money has no place being associated with our club.
I'd rather see us go non-league than see this happen. Will reserve judgment on him being at the game until the club releases some information on why he was there, and who's guest he was. However, if he was a guest of the board then that is ill-judged, especially when our own fans can't get inside the ground.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ska face |
| December 12, 2020, 5:07pm |
|
 Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,189
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 80.94%
Rep Score: +60 / -14
Approval: +21,640
Gold Stars: 840
|
Imagine having the brass neck to refuse to sell the club to someone like Shutes under the guise of being “custodians” of the club, and then courting a convicted fraudster.
So that’s a convicted fraudster and a ticket tout that have been tapped up by certain members of the board - clearly their lack of competence is matched only by their lack of morals. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this thread disappear like some of the others discussing this issue.
As for this crook having served his time, Gary Glitter “served his time” - I still wouldn’t let him babysit my kids.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| forza ivano |
| December 12, 2020, 5:08pm |
|
 Exile Posts: 14,721
Posts Per Day: 2.46
Reputation: 78.4%
Rep Score: +72 / -20
Approval: +15,159
Gold Stars: 265
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Norseman |
| December 12, 2020, 5:19pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 586
Posts Per Day: 0.45
Reputation: 61.46%
Rep Score: +2 / -4
Approval: +286
Gold Stars: 48
|
On another note as a principled man would olly work for a club involved with this despicable fraudster. He may have served his time but those he fleeced probably suffered for years. As supporters how many of us would buy tickets to go while this person has any association with our club.
Have to see what develops or if there is any truth in the rumours. He could be attending as he is going into business with fenty on another venture
|
|
|
|
|
|
| dapperz fun pub |
| December 12, 2020, 5:22pm |
|
|
Posts: 9,346
Posts Per Day: 1.59
Reputation: 84.95%
Rep Score: +37 / -6
Approval: +9,929
Gold Stars: 82
|
Picture of him entering the ground on the tellywag
Cheers |
|
|
|
|
|
| moosey_club |
| December 12, 2020, 5:23pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 16,182
Posts Per Day: 2.70
Reputation: 76.19%
Rep Score: +69 / -22
Approval: +20,244
Gold Stars: 226
|
Served his time. Deserves a second chance...
Give him a job at MIAB then |
| 2023/24 DLWDDWDLLLWDLLLLWDDDWDLLWLDLLDWDDWLLDWLWLW  2022/23LDWDWWDWLLDWWDLLLDLWLLWLWLLWDDLDWWDDDLLWDWLWLW 2021/22 WDWWWWDLWWWWLLLWLLDLWLLWWDWWWLWDLWWDWWWDLWD play offs WWW Promoted 🥳 2020/21 LLDWWLDLDWLWLLLDLWLLDLLDLLLWLLLDDDDWDDDLWLWLWL .. hello darkness my old friend 2019/20 WDLDWWLDLWWLLLDLDLDLDDWWDLLWDDWWL  WLLW - ended 2018/19 LWDDLLLLLLWWDWLLLWDWLWWWWLLLLWWWWDLLLDDLLDLWLW Hello Scunny  |
|
|
|
|
|
| dapperz fun pub |
| December 12, 2020, 5:24pm |
|
|
Posts: 9,346
Posts Per Day: 1.59
Reputation: 84.95%
Rep Score: +37 / -6
Approval: +9,929
Gold Stars: 82
|
Ffs I thought this was a bad joke , I’d like a Monday statement on why a convicted fraudster is in my church |
|
|
|
|
|
| moosey_club |
| December 12, 2020, 5:26pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 16,182
Posts Per Day: 2.70
Reputation: 76.19%
Rep Score: +69 / -22
Approval: +20,244
Gold Stars: 226
|
Picture of him entering the ground on the tellywag
But it was at 5a.m and he had a crowbar in his hand |
| 2023/24 DLWDDWDLLLWDLLLLWDDDWDLLWLDLLDWDDWLLDWLWLW 2022/23LDWDWWDWLLDWWDLLLDLWLLWLWLLWDDLDWWDDDLLWDWLWLW 2021/22 WDWWWWDLWWWWLLLWLLDLWLLWWDWWWLWDLWWDWWWDLWD play offs WWW Promoted 🥳 2020/21 LLDWWLDLDWLWLLLDLWLLDLLDLLLWLLLDDDDWDDDLWLWLWL .. hello darkness my old friend 2019/20 WDLDWWLDLWWLLLDLDLDLDDWWDLLWDDWWL WLLW - ended 2018/19 LWDDLLLLLLWWDWLLLWDWLWWWWLLLLWWWWDLLLDDLLDLWLW Hello Scunny |
|
|
|
|
|
| Madeleymariner |
| December 12, 2020, 5:32pm |
|
 Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,040
Posts Per Day: 1.01
Reputation: 64.28%
Rep Score: +23 / -15
Approval: +3,050
Gold Stars: 49
|
Ive come accross multi million fraudsters who change their name, that is all they change, they move from place to place talking BS and getting away with things as they are good at sounding believable. The bloke I knew (He had done 3 yrs inside previously for a similar scan} was finally arrested a couple of years after he changed his name again for 13 different cons involving thousands of pounds. If you want a laugh look up Kerry Katona arrested for assaulting accountant.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 5:32pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Given how quick the club were to respond to the opinions of a local comedian I’d imagine they’ll be writing a badly worded statement right now...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Madeleymariner |
| December 12, 2020, 5:34pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,040
Posts Per Day: 1.01
Reputation: 64.28%
Rep Score: +23 / -15
Approval: +3,050
Gold Stars: 49
|
PS how was he allowed in the ground during the game thought it would be against COVID rules
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Madeleymariner |
| December 12, 2020, 5:37pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,040
Posts Per Day: 1.01
Reputation: 64.28%
Rep Score: +23 / -15
Approval: +3,050
Gold Stars: 49
|
Ive come accross multi million fraudsters who change their name, that is all they change, they move from place to place talking BS and getting away with things as they are good at sounding believable. The bloke I knew (He had done 3 yrs inside previously for a similar scan} was finally arrested a couple of years after he changed his name again for 13 different cons involving thousands of pounds. If you want a laugh look up Kerry Katona arrested for assaulting accountant.
Or pink bunny rabbits in Scotland Or Pubs in Oldham. Pretending to be a solicitor etc etc etc |
|
|
|
|
|
| psgmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 5:38pm |
|
|
Posts: 10,122
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 73.33%
Rep Score: +39 / -15
Approval: +5,480
Gold Stars: 33
|
A person of colour is seen to be interested in investing in the club and surprise surprise all we hear is negative comments about him.....
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Gaffer58 |
| December 12, 2020, 5:39pm |
|
Brandy Drinker  Posts: 2,986
Posts Per Day: 0.88
Reputation: 57.51%
Rep Score: +6 / -8
Approval: +4,096
Gold Stars: 31
|
You do have to wonder what social circles our board members move in when 2 off the prospective buyers are a ticket tout and convicted fraudster!
|
|
|
|
|
|
| moosey_club |
| December 12, 2020, 5:41pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 16,182
Posts Per Day: 2.70
Reputation: 76.19%
Rep Score: +69 / -22
Approval: +20,244
Gold Stars: 226
|
PS how was he allowed in the ground during the game thought it would be against COVID rules
( Financial ) support bubble |
| 2023/24 DLWDDWDLLLWDLLLLWDDDWDLLWLDLLDWDDWLLDWLWLW 2022/23LDWDWWDWLLDWWDLLLDLWLLWLWLLWDDLDWWDDDLLWDWLWLW 2021/22 WDWWWWDLWWWWLLLWLLDLWLLWWDWWWLWDLWWDWWWDLWD play offs WWW Promoted 🥳 2020/21 LLDWWLDLDWLWLLLDLWLLDLLDLLLWLLLDDDDWDDDLWLWLWL .. hello darkness my old friend 2019/20 WDLDWWLDLWWLLLDLDLDLDDWWDLLWDDWWL WLLW - ended 2018/19 LWDDLLLLLLWWDWLLLWDWLWWWWLLLLWWWWDLLLDDLLDLWLW Hello Scunny |
|
|
|
|
|
| Croxton |
| December 12, 2020, 5:43pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,778
Posts Per Day: 0.75
Reputation: 78.46%
Rep Score: +14 / -4
Approval: +3,014
Gold Stars: 33
|
Love to know how much JT and local journos know in reality. If it's simply that this guy has been to a few games then why interrupt first half commentary twice? Spill it John!
|
|
|
|
|
|
| GollyGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 5:44pm |
|
 Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,907
Posts Per Day: 0.68
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,977
Gold Stars: 356
|
So, according to JSF, Tom Shutes, a well respected business man and philanthropist, is unsuitable to own GTFC but a convicted fraudster sentenced to 6 years in prison is fine.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 12, 2020, 5:46pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
The only reason this guy is being entertained and Shutes wasn’t is because Shutes wouldn’t let Fenty remain on the board. Whereas this convicted fraudster has made millions out of telling people what they want to hear. A man with an ego the size of Fenty’s is not difficult to read or to massage his over-inflated sense of self worth. A perfect target for a fraudster. “Of course I want you to stay involved, you’ve done such a wonderful job John and are integral to the club”.
Why would a convicted fraudster be interested in investing in a football club? And more to the point, why on earth would a football club entertain the notion of it?
Fenty is a joke.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| moosey_club |
| December 12, 2020, 5:50pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 16,182
Posts Per Day: 2.70
Reputation: 76.19%
Rep Score: +69 / -22
Approval: +20,244
Gold Stars: 226
|
We should of course remember that JF isnt in charge so it must have been Day who was doing any entertaining , if indeed there was any. Perhaps the guest was just after professional advice from Day on a legal matter |
| 2023/24 DLWDDWDLLLWDLLLLWDDDWDLLWLDLLDWDDWLLDWLWLW 2022/23LDWDWWDWLLDWWDLLLDLWLLWLWLLWDDLDWWDDDLLWDWLWLW 2021/22 WDWWWWDLWWWWLLLWLLDLWLLWWDWWWLWDLWWDWWWDLWD play offs WWW Promoted 🥳 2020/21 LLDWWLDLDWLWLLLDLWLLDLLDLLLWLLLDDDDWDDDLWLWLWL .. hello darkness my old friend 2019/20 WDLDWWLDLWWLLLDLDLDLDDWWDLLWDDWWL WLLW - ended 2018/19 LWDDLLLLLLWWDWLLLWDWLWWWWLLLLWWWWDLLLDDLLDLWLW Hello Scunny |
|
|
|
|
|
| Chrisblor |
| December 12, 2020, 5:53pm |
|
 Elemér Berkessy Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,263
Posts Per Day: 1.22
Reputation: 72.75%
Rep Score: +51 / -20
Location: somewhere along the m180
Approval: +8,780
Gold Stars: 233
|
A person of colour is seen to be interested in investing in the club and surprise surprise all we hear is negative comments about him.....
Put the pint glass down and have a night off. |
| gary jones |
|
|
|
|
|
| grimps |
| December 12, 2020, 5:57pm |
|
balderdashWhiskey Drinker
Posts: 4,453
Posts Per Day: 0.79
Reputation: 57.6%
Rep Score: +21 / -19
Approval: +5,112
Gold Stars: 46
|
A person of colour is seen to be interested in investing in the club and surprise surprise all we hear is negative comments about him.....
What’s a person of colour ? |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 5:57pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
A person of colour is seen to be interested in investing in the club and surprise surprise all we hear is negative comments about him.....
Really surprised to read that. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| GollyGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 6:01pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,907
Posts Per Day: 0.68
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,977
Gold Stars: 356
|
The only reason this guy is being entertained and Shutes wasn’t is because Shutes wouldn’t let Fenty remain on the board. Whereas this convicted fraudster has made millions out of telling people what they want to hear. A man with an ego the size of Fenty’s is not difficult to read or to massage his over-inflated sense of self worth. A perfect target for a fraudster. “Of course I want you to stay involved, you’ve done such a wonderful job John and are integral to the club”.
Why would a convicted fraudster be interested in investing in a football club? And more to the point, why on earth would a football club entertain the notion of it?
Fenty is a joke.
I think Fenty’s main issue with Shutes is probably his membership and significant donations to the Labour Party. For example, earlier in the year he donated £15,000 to Lisa Nandy’s leadership campaign. Re: Shutes... if he still wants to buy the club now is the time. Fenty has scored a huge own goal allowing that man into the ground. |
|
|
|
|
|
| rancido |
| December 12, 2020, 6:03pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,500
Posts Per Day: 1.25
Reputation: 80.3%
Rep Score: +41 / -10
Approval: +6,571
Gold Stars: 96
|
So, according to JSF, Tom Shutes, a well respected business man and philanthropist, is unsuitable to own GTFC but a convicted fraudster sentenced to 6 years in prison is fine.
As I read it Shutes never gave assurances on funds to enable the club to keep operating. In fact if he was to provide that proof then according to Day "the door is still open". But of course all the conspiracy theorists put there own spin on the situation. |
| The Future is Black & White.
"The commonest thing on this planet is not water , as some people believe, but stupidity ". Frank Zappa |
|
|
|
|
|
| GollyGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 6:03pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,907
Posts Per Day: 0.68
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,977
Gold Stars: 356
|
We should of course remember that JF isnt in charge so it must have been Day who was doing any entertaining , if indeed there was any. Perhaps the guest was just after professional advice from Day on a legal matter
Pull the other one. Day is Orville and Fenty is Keith Harris. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Mikey_345 |
| December 12, 2020, 6:04pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,842
Posts Per Day: 0.31
Reputation: 86.52%
Rep Score: +11 / -1
Location: Sutton
Approval: +5,354
Gold Stars: 100
|
I think Fenty’s main issue with Shutes is probably his membership and significant donations to the Labour Party. For example, earlier in the year he donated £15,000 to Lisa Nandy’s leadership campaign.
Re: Shutes... if he still wants to buy the club now is the time. Fenty has scored a huge own goal allowing that man into the ground.
The more I hear about Shutes the more I like 😉 |
| All Town aren’t we
@GTFCLondon
|
|
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 12, 2020, 6:07pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
As I read it Shutes never gave assurances on funds to enable the club to keep operating. In fact if he was to provide that proof then according to Day "the door is still open". But of course all the conspiracy theorists put there own spin on the situation.
From a board well known for telling the truth. Even in the last week we’ve gone from plenty of money to spend, to very close to salary cap back to being able to spend again in the window. |
|
|
|
|
|
| psgmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 6:12pm |
|
|
Posts: 10,122
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 73.33%
Rep Score: +39 / -15
Approval: +5,480
Gold Stars: 33
|
I’m bowing out.
My posts were a lame attempt at humour. So bored of town and the fishy at the minute so looking for any way to liven it up.
Ps he didn’t get the job at miab as he failed our fit and proper persons test. The bar is incredibly low as well.
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 12, 2020, 6:13pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
As I read it Shutes never gave assurances on funds to enable the club to keep operating. In fact if he was to provide that proof then according to Day "the door is still open". But of course all the conspiracy theorists put there own spin on the situation.
Weasel word quotes from the club can be taken with a pinch of salt nowadays.. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 12, 2020, 6:21pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Christ is there anything about us that isn’t a shambles? Fenty really is an amateur isn’t he?
No he isn't,Fenty will not give this man, or any consortium in which he is in any way involved, the time of day. Slag him off all you like, which we do most of the time, but John Fenty isn't going to hand GTFC to this shyster |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Croxton |
| December 12, 2020, 6:24pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,778
Posts Per Day: 0.75
Reputation: 78.46%
Rep Score: +14 / -4
Approval: +3,014
Gold Stars: 33
|
I’m bowing out.
My posts were a lame attempt at humour. So bored of town and the fishy at the minute so looking for any way to liven it up.
Ps he didn’t get the job at miab as he failed our fit and proper persons test. The bar is incredibly low as well.
Post deleted. And I take your point about Town and the Fishy. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 12, 2020, 6:25pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
I find it absolutely mind blowing that our majority shareholder and chairman, who both purport to be Grimsby Town fans, could consider allowing a convicted fraudster to invest in the club.
I don't think for a moment that they are The story is like our promotion chances and Holloway's star signings, a load of balderdash |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 12, 2020, 6:26pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
No he isn't,Fenty will not give this man, or any consortium in which he is in any way involved, the time of day. Slag him off all you like, which we do most of the time, but John Fenty isn't going to hand GTFC to this shyster
Wouldn’t give them the time of day? He’s literally been at the game today when the fans weren’t even allowed. |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 6:27pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
If the club aren’t remotely interested how is he getting in to the ground?
Surely there has to be genuine interest to allow him in?
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 12, 2020, 6:28pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
So, according to JSF a convicted fraudster sentenced to 6 years in prison is fine.
I haven't seen that anywhere Is there a link please? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 12, 2020, 6:30pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
What’s a person of colour ?
That depends on whose definition you are using. A recently dismissed ex Detective Chief Inspector of Humberside police based in Grimsby might liken a person of colour to a type of ice cream |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| wiggers |
| December 12, 2020, 6:36pm |
|
Snakebite drinker  Posts: 398
Posts Per Day: 0.07
Approval: +464
Gold Stars: 11
|
Not for me, do not want a convicted Fraudster anywhere near GTFC. Where are the clubs morals? Unbelievable.......
|
|
|
|
|
|
| davmariner |
| December 12, 2020, 6:37pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,047
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 78.9%
Rep Score: +37 / -10
Approval: +4,911
Gold Stars: 79
|
No he isn't,Fenty will not give this man, or any consortium in which he is in any way involved, the time of day. Slag him off all you like, which we do most of the time, but John Fenty isn't going to hand GTFC to this shyster
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....anya-grimsby-4792583Why’s he at the ground then? |
| Up The Mariners! |
|
|
|
|
|
| SomeSanity |
| December 12, 2020, 6:39pm |
|
Lager Top Drinker Posts: 234
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Approval: +855
Gold Stars: 1
|
This could of course be Fenty trolling us. If we are all up in arms about this fella we’re not talking about how shyte the team is.
Probably not mind,l.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 6:42pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
This could of course be Fenty trolling us. If we are all up in arms about this fella we’re not talking about how shyte the team is.
Probably not mind,l.
You give him too much credit...you’d have to be commercially savvy to do something like that... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| IlkleyMariner |
| December 12, 2020, 6:50pm |
|
Champagne Drinker  Posts: 2,438
Posts Per Day: 0.56
Reputation: 87.12%
Rep Score: +12 / -1
Location: Ilkley
Approval: +3,012
Gold Stars: 69
|
Hopefully today our season has just started to turn round. But just in case it hasn’t a quick question
Would u prefer to remain in the football league funded by some dodgy money from a dodgy bloke, or get relegated to the abyss of non league?
I don’t have anyone in mind so it’s all hypothetical
|
|
|
|
|
|
| SomeSanity |
| December 12, 2020, 6:50pm |
|
Lager Top Drinker Posts: 234
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Approval: +855
Gold Stars: 1
|
You give him too much credit...you’d have to be commercially savvy to do something like that...
The last thing that post was is serious. Surely they must have broken some tier 3 rules though. |
|
|
|
|
|
| jonnyboy82 |
| December 12, 2020, 6:51pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,324
Posts Per Day: 1.28
Reputation: 67.42%
Rep Score: +71 / -36
Approval: +5,688
Gold Stars: 95
|
Here to kick the tyres then nick em.
|
| GTFC |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 12, 2020, 7:05pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
At first seeing Lloyd Griffith's name in the title I wasn't at all worried about this but then I realised if he had anything to do with it it certainly wouldn't be a joke or in the least bit funny
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Sammo |
| December 12, 2020, 7:08pm |
|
Shandy Drinker  Posts: 59
Posts Per Day: 0.04
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Approval: +171
|
I think we would be proven to be morally bankrupt if this man is allowed to invest in our club. He’s a conman who deceived the elderly to make money however desperate we are for investment and a new regime we are not this desperate.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 3610 |
| December 12, 2020, 7:08pm |
|
Guest User |
Haven’t read any of this thread.
But if this story is true. Then it shows ours boards true intentions.
And that is .......recoup fentys dosh.
Why would you even entertain this guy.
You’ve called yourself custodians of the club. But are dining a potential investor who is a recently convicted con artist. Of elderly people. It’s one of the lowest crimes going. How is this looking after our club.
Do you seriously trust this man to be the next custodian of the Grimsby peoples club.
Even if this doesn’t go through. I’ve lost so much respect for our board for even allowing discussions to get to the point of him into getting into the ground.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| male private Nale |
| December 12, 2020, 7:09pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 609
Posts Per Day: 0.35
Reputation: 72.83%
Rep Score: +3 / -2
Approval: -919
Gold Stars: 136
|
Can this club become anymore of a laughing stock , yep bring on Southend
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 12, 2020, 7:14pm |
|
 Recovering Alcoholic  Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
Isn't this guy just a mouthpiece for Dodd? Think that was the case at Counteh,
Still don't want him around the club though, or Dodd for that matter if this shyster is the best he can find to "advise" him.
We have some lovely people associated with the club don't we? A convicted fraudster, a money grubbing ticket tout and Nigel Farage.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 12, 2020, 7:51pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Holloway probably heard from his ace scout that the fella can play a bit. (hat trick in his first game for his wing at Pentonville against HMP Durham). Look for him in a Town shirt as our new striker on Monday |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| heppy88 |
| December 12, 2020, 7:52pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 867
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Approval: +3,079
Gold Stars: 40
|
So we have serious interest from a philanthropist and successful property developer, who is actively investing his time in the betterment of the town as a whole, in partnership with two Grimsby born entrepreneurs. Who have a clear vision for the future of the club and invested time and money in the design of a proposed new stadium on the docks.
Or
A previously convicted fraudster, who preyed on vulnerable older people.
The first the club (Fenty) won’t entertain, the second Fenty entertains on more than one occasion? Seriously how much longer are the fans of this club willing to put up with this shambles? Fenty is a complete and utter liability for this club. In the past I believed our only saving grace was Fenty’s “Love” for our club. Love? The man is incapable of such things.
How on earth do we get rid of this fool? He will be the death of this club!! UTMM
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Northbank Mariner |
| December 12, 2020, 7:54pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,953
Posts Per Day: 1.75
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: +7,446
Gold Stars: 171
|
This bloke invests in our club and I'm done!...private plate will be sold, town shirts and memorabilia burnt...if this happens GTFC will be dead to me and no doubt an awful lot more .
|
|
|
|
|
|
| LH |
| December 12, 2020, 8:00pm |
|
Moderator
Posts: 11,475
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 71.54%
Rep Score: +30 / -13
Approval: +18,500
Gold Stars: 173
|
I was seriously thinking of flipping Town off after this season until Fenty goes but if this goes through I’ll be going with you NBM.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| TwoLeftFeet |
| December 12, 2020, 8:02pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,051
Posts Per Day: 0.18
Reputation: 85.92%
Rep Score: +4 / 0
Location: Cleethorpes
Approval: +2,076
Gold Stars: 18
|
Can't believe what I'm reading think the board need to come out and answer what's going on and pretty quickly too.
A convicted fraudster who has preyed on old people geez wtf
|
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 12, 2020, 8:07pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
There’s four season tickets right here that will not get renewed if GTFC board entertain investment from a convicted fraudster.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 12, 2020, 8:09pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
I was seriously thinking of flipping Town off after this season until Fenty goes but if this goes through I’ll be going with you NBM.
Think a few fans are wavering with the going's on at BP, but this would make up the minds of many- if there is any truth in it of course. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 12, 2020, 8:10pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
Is this Philip Day sat next to the fraudster at the game today? Tweet 1337845773690605570 will appear here... |
|
|
|
|
|
| buckstown |
| December 12, 2020, 8:14pm |
|
Champagne Drinker Posts: 2,453
Posts Per Day: 0.41
Reputation: 74.81%
Rep Score: +16 / -6
Approval: +5,179
Gold Stars: 79
|
Cue a statement from the chairman!!! Unbelievable Jeff
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Mikey_345 |
| December 12, 2020, 8:26pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,842
Posts Per Day: 0.31
Reputation: 86.52%
Rep Score: +11 / -1
Location: Sutton
Approval: +5,354
Gold Stars: 100
|
Is this Philip Day sat next to the fraudster at the game today? Tweet 1337845773690605570 will appear here...
Day is sat on the other side. I was wondering if it was Dodds as don’t recognise him and he’s right next to May. |
| All Town aren’t we
@GTFCLondon
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Vance Warner |
| December 12, 2020, 8:34pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 999
Posts Per Day: 0.17
Reputation: 79.34%
Rep Score: +19 / -5
Approval: +2,786
Gold Stars: 102
|
I’m all for forgiveness and giving people a second chance but if you are a convicted fraudster who has scammed vulnerable people then chose to invest in something that is outside the public eye out of respect for your victims.
The difference with Shutes seems to be that one was a takeover and this is an investment.
John Fenty you’re killing our club.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| moosey_club |
| December 12, 2020, 8:51pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 16,182
Posts Per Day: 2.70
Reputation: 76.19%
Rep Score: +69 / -22
Approval: +20,244
Gold Stars: 226
|
No wonder Day said finances wont be a problem, he has recently invested the clubs money in a guaranteed 500% interest return scheme, put pen to paper on the deal today. 🤣
|
| 2023/24 DLWDDWDLLLWDLLLLWDDDWDLLWLDLLDWDDWLLDWLWLW 2022/23LDWDWWDWLLDWWDLLLDLWLLWLWLLWDDLDWWDDDLLWDWLWLW 2021/22 WDWWWWDLWWWWLLLWLLDLWLLWWDWWWLWDLWWDWWWDLWD play offs WWW Promoted 🥳 2020/21 LLDWWLDLDWLWLLLDLWLLDLLDLLLWLLLDDDDWDDDLWLWLWL .. hello darkness my old friend 2019/20 WDLDWWLDLWWLLLDLDLDLDDWWDLLWDDWWL WLLW - ended 2018/19 LWDDLLLLLLWWDWLLLWDWLWWWWLLLLWWWWDLLLDDLLDLWLW Hello Scunny |
|
|
|
|
|
| Saudimariner |
| December 12, 2020, 8:54pm |
|
Beer Drinker  Posts: 164
Posts Per Day: 0.04
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Location: Maine, USA
Approval: +304
Gold Stars: 9
|
What’s a person of colour ?
Me - I'm a sort of pinky-white |
|
|
|
|
|
| Bristol Mariner |
| December 12, 2020, 8:56pm |
|
 Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,242
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 72.78%
Rep Score: +11 / -5
Approval: +2,877
Gold Stars: 79
|
He’s paying Fenty’s loan off and they’re running off into the sunset together, No ties to Town anymore. If Carlsberg did takeovers.....
|
| GTFC Exile, Bristol Mariners |
|
|
|
|
|
| IlkleyMariner |
| December 12, 2020, 8:59pm |
|
Champagne Drinker Posts: 2,438
Posts Per Day: 0.56
Reputation: 87.12%
Rep Score: +12 / -1
Location: Ilkley
Approval: +3,012
Gold Stars: 69
|
Hopefully today our season has just started to turn round. But just in case it hasn’t a quick question
Would u prefer to remain in the football league funded by some dodgy money from a dodgy bloke, or get relegated to the abyss of non league?
I don’t have anyone in mind so it’s all hypothetical
I was not proposing the dodgy funding just trying to get an opinion not red crosses. |
|
|
|
|
|
| HertsGTFC |
| December 12, 2020, 9:20pm |
|
|
Posts: 14,089
Posts Per Day: 4.26
Reputation: 75.4%
Rep Score: +29 / -10
Location: Stevenage
Approval: +22,909
Gold Stars: 228
|
When this first appeared earlier this afternoon I thought it was nothing more than a case of convicted fraudster with no historic connection to GTFC at a game where the loyal fans who have spent a high proportion of their earnings on supporting Town for decades weren’t allowed to attend........ so nothing out of the ordinary really🤦♂️
On reflection though we’re crying out for investment but this guy does not look like a safe or worthy “custodian”.
As ever at best GTFC’s PR on top form at worst a move that could further disengage a very loyal support base.
|
| "Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style |
|
|
|
|
|
| forza ivano |
| December 12, 2020, 11:07pm |
|
Exile Posts: 14,721
Posts Per Day: 2.46
Reputation: 78.4%
Rep Score: +72 / -20
Approval: +15,159
Gold Stars: 265
|
Mariners Trust put out a statement on their website n on twitter. Dont sound very happy at all urgent meeting tomorrow! Intriguingly they say they are in discussions with previous potential investors???
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 12, 2020, 11:22pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
Is this Philip Day sat next to the fraudster at the game today? Tweet 1337845773690605570 will appear here...
Small point I know, but shouldn't there be 2 seats between everyone? If you look at the picture in the Telewag of those in attendance in the Directors box, Day is only 1 seat away from them, and those two are sat side by side. Fans won't be allowed to do that when they are allowed back in. |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 12, 2020, 11:25pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
May be they’re in a support bubble...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| scrumble |
| December 12, 2020, 11:39pm |
|
 Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,440
Posts Per Day: 0.24
Reputation: 83.37%
Rep Score: +12 / -2
Location: Deepest Darkest Wales
Approval: +983
Gold Stars: 10
|
Wrexham get Ryan Reynolds and we get this.
|
| Byddwn ond yn canu pan fyddwn yn pysgota |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 12:00am |
|
Meths Drinker  Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
what if he pumps 5 million into the club?
and the money is found out to be legitimate money.
People can and do change
He was done for fraud a few years ago. Where’s he got the money from? Building up millions legitimately in a few years from nothing? Pigs might fly. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 12:07am |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
All those who scream to get rid of Fenty are now complaining that a prospective owner is a crook and afraid we might sell to him! You can’t always get what you want, be careful what you wish for. BTW this guy should not even be entertained imo, I’d rather have JF than some dodgy businessman, oh, hang on 😉😉😉😉😂😂
To use our dear leader’s phrase, “poppycock”. There’s a world of difference between a legitimate businessman and a philanthropist and a convicted fraudster. To say that because you’re in favour of one that you’re in favour of the other is simply incorrect. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Eastendmariner |
| December 13, 2020, 12:29am |
|
Mariners Trust Life Member
Season Ticket Holder
Posts: 940
Posts Per Day: 0.16
Reputation: 69.11%
Rep Score: +8 / -5
Location: East London
Approval: +940
Gold Stars: 22
|
Why on earth would you let a utter scumbag in the ground and exspect people to be convinced that he is trustworthy and reliable invester beggars belief This bloke stole Peoples identities and then stole 3.2 million in loans against vulnerable people's property. Changed his name and is now sitting in the VIP area at BP absolutely disgusting
|
| Mariner Trust Life Member
Seen the Mariners win AWAY at 70 league Grounds
Grounds Visited 281[img][/img]
Blundell Park a Training ground for bum ref's |
|
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 1:23am |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
Preyed on elderly victims, fleeced them out of their life savings and probably hid a big chunk of his ill gotten gains before his time in clink which he's now no doubt using to fund his lifestyle.
Second chance would be a job at McDonald's.
I wouldn't want the twit serving me in McDonalds. I have always had the opinion that illegitimates who scam the elderly should spend the rest of their days in prison. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 1:25am |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
Small point I know, but shouldn't there be 2 seats between everyone? If you look at the picture in the Telewag of those in attendance in the Directors box, Day is only 1 seat away from them, and those two are sat side by side.
Fans won't be allowed to do that when they are allowed back in.
Isn't the man in the flat cap J.F.? |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| WayneBurnettsJockstrap |
| December 13, 2020, 1:32am |
|
|
Posts: 2,771
Posts Per Day: 1.77
Reputation: 81.8%
Rep Score: +10 / -2
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +835
Gold Stars: 117
|
My worry is his motive. He seems desperate to have a football club (Notts first now us) - why??
I think it's the black and white stripes. They remind him of the prison bars |
|
|
|
|
|
| jamesgtfc |
| December 13, 2020, 1:38am |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,038
Posts Per Day: 1.16
Reputation: 79.95%
Rep Score: +20 / -5
Approval: +12,955
Gold Stars: 190
|
Massive credit to Lloyd. Have a look at his tweets. On 30th November there was a statement of capital following an allotment of shares totally almost £2.4m
We need an answer to that very quickly. If the Trust board representatives had knowledge, they should hang their heads in shame and resign. So should any other member of the board whose concerns about this aren't minuted.
As a member of the board, I include Holloway in that. Anyone who thinks it is acceptable to engage with a convicted fraudster such as Alex May wants removing from our club immediately.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ska face |
| December 13, 2020, 2:07am |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,189
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 80.94%
Rep Score: +60 / -14
Approval: +21,640
Gold Stars: 840
|
Massive credit to Lloyd. Have a look at his tweets. On 30th November there was a statement of capital following an allotment of shares totally almost £2.4m
Think it’s a purchase of £15,500 - Tweet 1337450258054455297 will appear here... The £2,377,900 will be the total value of shares issued (up from the £2,362,400 posted in September). I did spot this in the week but thought it was probably tied to the share issue earlier in the year, or one of Fenty or Holloway putting some money in. Can’t imagine we’re entertaining this crook for the sake of £15k. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| 137 |
| December 13, 2020, 2:18am |
|
Guest User |
What does "due diligence" amount to when convicted fraudsters are openly courted?
Have felt ashamed several times at the club's behaviour under JSF...now it's moved up to 'disgusted'.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| louth_in_the_south |
| December 13, 2020, 2:20am |
|
Exile Posts: 4,106
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 70%
Rep Score: +25 / -12
Location: Forest Row
Approval: +5,672
Gold Stars: 94
|
A person of colour is seen to be interested in investing in the club and surprise surprise all we hear is negative comments about him.....
Oh dear . You’ve just made yourself look like a complete t.wat |
| Lower F5 |
|
|
|
|
|
| louth_in_the_south |
| December 13, 2020, 2:27am |
|
Exile Posts: 4,106
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 70%
Rep Score: +25 / -12
Location: Forest Row
Approval: +5,672
Gold Stars: 94
|
JSF has just provided the length of rope to hang himself ..........
|
| Lower F5 |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 6:30am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
For a club quick to release mammary for tat statements when they don’t like a narrative they’ve helped to create, they’ve been very slow responding to this.
I’m all for remorse and rehabilitation but the more you look at this the more embarrassing it gets. The club openly called Shutes a tyre kicker and bad mouthed him; a crook comes along, is allowed in the ground when no fornicator else is, a man already binned off by another club and it’s clear we’re entertaining his interests, whatever they may be .
Personally I don’t care if he’s representing someone else. If that’s true it also makes me question that person. If it’s directly an involvement from May himself then that is even more worrying.
A genuine buyer was made to play a ridiculous game because it was clear he wanted complete control and removal of the current board...they didn’t like or want that so played a game and made up reasons for not selling.
It’s well known the club stalk the local social media and message boards, if they fail to cut all ties to this person immediately, that alleged love for the club is exposed as nothing more than a cover for self promotion, egotism and status raising.
I’m not surprised by Day, he isn’t in charge and we all know that. He openly laughed and was part of the serious unprofessional outbursts during that ill fated fans forum. Once again our board have shown a disregard and a genuine contempt for a fan base which have quite frankly dug them out of the excrement several times.
They are incompetent, arrogant, backwards thinking, small minded, self obsessed, egotistical and out of touch. The fact the trust seemingly didn’t know also highlights once more than their role in the board is nothing more than tokenism. Very sad and I’d admit, very disillusioned with the club...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| GollyGTFC |
| December 13, 2020, 8:42am |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,907
Posts Per Day: 0.68
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,977
Gold Stars: 356
|
Quoted Text
Mariners Trust statement:
“As we understand it Mr May is in discussions about helping with a potential development that would be of benefit to the club."
I think I have worked out what help he could offer the club. We all know the Freeman Street site has a small but significant block of housing next to it that might cause issues with planning applications, stadium designs and building work. Maybe this guy has offered to use his vast experience in stealing property to "acquire" the houses at zero cost to help smooth out these potential problems without the huge burden of having to pay? |
|
|
|
|
|
| LH |
| December 13, 2020, 8:45am |
|
Moderator
Posts: 11,475
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 71.54%
Rep Score: +30 / -13
Approval: +18,500
Gold Stars: 173
|
I’ve noticed one or two posters who are usually quick to defend the board have been a bit quiet since yesterday...
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 13, 2020, 8:48am |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
I’ve noticed one or two posters who are usually quick to defend the board have been a bit quiet since yesterday...
Have to admit I hadn’t noticed but now you mention it |
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| Abdul19 |
| December 13, 2020, 9:24am |
|
 Season Ticket Holder Posts: 20,413
Posts Per Day: 3.41
Reputation: 73.77%
Rep Score: +71 / -26
Location: Scarborough
Approval: +17,552
Gold Stars: 215
|
You've come to expect embarrassment from GTFC in recent times but this is something else
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 9:32am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Have to admit I hadn’t noticed but now you mention it
I hadn’t noticed to be fair. I guess when the club put out one of their wonderfully clear statements they’ll come and tell us we were all wrong and Mr Day et al are right... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Dan |
| December 13, 2020, 9:39am |
|
 Exile Posts: 2,054
Posts Per Day: 0.36
Reputation: 69.68%
Rep Score: +36 / -17
Location: London
Approval: +551
|
|
|
|
Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 9:55am |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 13, 2020, 10:01am |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
|
|
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| Dan |
| December 13, 2020, 10:02am |
|
Exile Posts: 2,054
Posts Per Day: 0.36
Reputation: 69.68%
Rep Score: +36 / -17
Location: London
Approval: +551
|
My bad
|
|
Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Dan |
| December 13, 2020, 10:03am |
|
Exile Posts: 2,054
Posts Per Day: 0.36
Reputation: 69.68%
Rep Score: +36 / -17
Location: London
Approval: +551
|
|
|
|
Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 13, 2020, 10:06am |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
Yup there in black and white. |
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| Northbank Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 10:10am |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,953
Posts Per Day: 1.75
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: +7,446
Gold Stars: 171
|
So no getting out of this one for JSF, he's in bed with a convicted fraudster, dear oh dear, oh dear..😔😔 |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 10:25am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
So no getting out of this one for JSF, he's in bed with a convicted fraudster, dear oh dear, oh dear..😔😔
Did Mr Fenty/a company he’s connected to ever sort that tax thing out? |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| LH |
| December 13, 2020, 10:26am |
|
Moderator
Posts: 11,475
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 71.54%
Rep Score: +30 / -13
Approval: +18,500
Gold Stars: 173
|
I wonder how Holloway’s mate Jim White would cover this story. He spent weeks pressing the EFL and the dodgy ownership at Bury before their demise.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| heppy88 |
| December 13, 2020, 10:28am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 867
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Approval: +3,079
Gold Stars: 40
|
From what ive read from the supplied links this could all now get messy for Fenty but more importantly the club couild get dragged into this.
From the supplied documents you cant help but think something seriously fishy has been going on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 10:39am |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
IF any deal, of any type, is done with these thieving charlatan illegitimates (and I cannot believe that Fenty, however bad it looks, will place any part of Grimsby Town's future in the hands of these people) I think Holloway, who is a man of honesty and principle (even if a trifle eccentric) will be the first out of the door followed by 3000 fans , I certainly hope so
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| forza ivano |
| December 13, 2020, 10:39am |
|
Exile Posts: 14,721
Posts Per Day: 2.46
Reputation: 78.4%
Rep Score: +72 / -20
Approval: +15,159
Gold Stars: 265
|
Uijana Adamczyk is a lady, and I think is Mr Fenty's partner. She seconded his nomination as a councillor
2 other points - apparently the £15,500 share purchase were of a different class of share to those allocated to us mere plebs
finally the 2 Trust Board members would be aware of May, due to being at board meetings, but are prevented from disclosing anything due to the confidentiality agreements. They must have been in a VERY uncomfortable position for the last few weeks
|
|
|
|
|
|
| louth_in_the_south |
| December 13, 2020, 10:57am |
|
Exile Posts: 4,106
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 70%
Rep Score: +25 / -12
Location: Forest Row
Approval: +5,672
Gold Stars: 94
|
Is that somebody’s political ambitions disappearing over the horizon lol
|
| Lower F5 |
|
|
|
|
|
| ska face |
| December 13, 2020, 11:02am |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,189
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 80.94%
Rep Score: +60 / -14
Approval: +21,640
Gold Stars: 840
|
If there is evidence of Fenty being involved with this convicted fraudster, then I would suggest it would have more serious implications for his position as Deputy Leader of the Council and as a Councillor.
Maybe something the Telegraph would want to look at, given the significant public interest.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 11:15am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
IF any deal, of any type, is done with these thieving charlatan illegitimates (and I cannot believe that Fenty, however bad it looks, will place any part of Grimsby Town's future in the hands of these people) I think Holloway, who is a man of honesty and principle (even if a trifle eccentric) will be the first out of the door followed by 3000 fans , I certainly hope so
Holloway said the Oystens were decent... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| heppy88 |
| December 13, 2020, 11:21am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 867
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Approval: +3,079
Gold Stars: 40
|
IF any deal, of any type, is done with these thieving charlatan illegitimates (and I cannot believe that Fenty, however bad it looks, will place any part of Grimsby Town's future in the hands of these people) I think Holloway, who is a man of honesty and principle (even if a trifle eccentric) will be the first out of the door followed by 3000 fans , I certainly hope so
Holloway said a few weeks ago that if the club was handed over to Shutes then he would leave. I cant help but think he has had knowledge of this down the line. |
|
|
|
|
|
| forza ivano |
| December 13, 2020, 11:21am |
|
Exile Posts: 14,721
Posts Per Day: 2.46
Reputation: 78.4%
Rep Score: +72 / -20
Approval: +15,159
Gold Stars: 265
|
If there is evidence of Fenty being involved with this convicted fraudster, then I would suggest it would have more serious implications for his position as Deputy Leader of the Council and as a Councillor.
Maybe something the Telegraph would want to look at, given the significant public interest.
there's no 'IF' about it Ska - it's all there in black & white (excuse the pun) at Companies House
|
|
|
|
|
|
| davmariner |
| December 13, 2020, 11:23am |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,047
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 78.9%
Rep Score: +37 / -10
Approval: +4,911
Gold Stars: 79
|
Absolutely disgusted. Fenty should resign as deputy leader of the council and more importantly resign as a GTFC director.
|
| Up The Mariners! |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 11:28am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Holloway saying he would leave if Shutes bought the club was just typical bluster from him. He’s not gonna come out and say the bloke who gave him a way back in to management is an incompetent megalomaniac is he?
Alarm bells should’ve rang when Holloway said Fenty knew what he was doing...
The club can spin this however they want but if we thought endorsing Farage or handing over a shirt to a prime minister was a excrement idea...this is on a whole other level...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 11:28am |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
The AM in AMPCO seems to be Austin Moore, of Austin Moore LLP. Looks like he is a solicitor based in the Ropewalk in Nottingham, which just happens to be the same place AMPCO is located. There are scores of companies registered as AMPCO, all with a different number attached on the end. Mr Moore also has several companies listed at Companies House. No suggestion he is anything other than just the legal part of the process. https://www.austinmoore.com/He is listed here in the incorporation section as an agent. In the change of name section, it is just signed as AMP. Can't be a coincidence. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11964274/filing-historyAs I said in the other thread, there are development deals to be done in regard to Freemo, and this could all be above board, but the inclusion of a convicted fraudster and his obvious link to our club and it's owner is very worrying. I have no idea of legalities in all of this, but isn't there at least a conflict of interests issue here, not to mention the poor press this is going to bring to our club? |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 11:34am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
This isnt going to end well, but Im going to wait for whatever the official statement says rather than take the word of a pub act and his media puppet, before drawing conclusions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 11:35am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
I think that’s the key issue. As a club we are woeful at PR as it is, we are languishing at essentially the lowest point of the football league and are once again staring a relegation battle in the face.
We were public about furloughing every man and his dog and offering food contracts which clearly impacted our recruitment, leaving us with players with questionable talent.
We openly slagged off a bloke who was genuinely interested in purchasing the club and along the way we’ve done similar to other folk.
This just pours more fuel on the fire. Mr May could be completely innocent and a reformed character but, and it’s a big but, the press it brings is not helpful and it still leaves the question as to why we are involved with someone like him. What is in it for him? Even if he’s merely an enabler as someone pointed out or an adviser (you’d have to question someone who employed a convicted fraudster as a financial adviser) it still sets alarm bells ringing.
The fact we have found out would suggest someone within the club isn’t happy with it and the Trust have seemingly been kept in the dark, well beyond any confidentiality agreements.
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 11:39am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
Mr Day said the other week we are very near the salary cap.
Then the other last week said money is no object Ollie can have the funds required in the transfer window.
I wondered at the time How.?
Now I know !!!!
OK, please let on, because Im none the wiser. |
|
|
|
|
|
| IlkleyMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 11:39am |
|
Champagne Drinker Posts: 2,438
Posts Per Day: 0.56
Reputation: 87.12%
Rep Score: +12 / -1
Location: Ilkley
Approval: +3,012
Gold Stars: 69
|
I have no inside knowledge about what’s going on here, but from the scraps of info and opinions leaking out, can’t see any evidence that Mr May is investing in GTFC, but he does have an interest in a property company along with Mr Fenty.
Think we need a bit more clarity before everyone gets into a rage about all of this, however shady Mr May is or is not.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 11:41am |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
I have no inside knowledge about what’s going on here, but from the scraps of info and opinions leaking out, can’t see any evidence that Mr May is investing in GTFC, but he does have an interest in a property company along with Mr Fenty.
Think we need a bit more clarity before everyone gets into a rage about all of this, however shady Mr May is or is not.
As some have pointed out, if we’re honest, this could have worse implications for Fenty’s political career rather than GTFC. Either way, it can’t be helpful. If the bloke is or isn’t investing or becoming part of something at BP then why should he get a pass to enter the ground. There’s people much higher up the list than him that should get one... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| pizzzza |
| December 13, 2020, 11:42am |
|
 Pontoonite Posts: 5,662
Posts Per Day: 1.06
Reputation: 69.75%
Rep Score: +20 / -10
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +6,701
Gold Stars: 137
|
Not sure about Philip MAY and Alex DAY, but this club has been sending out distress signals for years....
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 11:44am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
I have no inside knowledge about what’s going on here, but from the scraps of info and opinions leaking out, can’t see any evidence that Mr May is investing in GTFC, but he does have an interest in a property company along with Mr Fenty.
Think we need a bit more clarity before everyone gets into a rage about all of this, however shady Mr May is or is not.
Perish the thought that anyone would want to take a step back, draw breath, wait for the official statement, and then draw their own conclusions, before passing sentence. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Northbank Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 11:50am |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,953
Posts Per Day: 1.75
Reputation: 60.08%
Rep Score: +9 / -9
Approval: +7,446
Gold Stars: 171
|
IF any deal, of any type, is done with these thieving charlatan illegitimates (and I cannot believe that Fenty, however bad it looks, will place any part of Grimsby Town's future in the hands of these people) I think Holloway, who is a man of honesty and principle (even if a trifle eccentric) will be the first out of the door followed by 3000 fans , I certainly hope so
Unfortunately swin it now been proved JSF is in bed with May, the man has no principles when it comes to money, I can see Holloway packing his bags and heading back down South, this time Fenty has gone too far and truly ruined the club .. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 11:59am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
Unfortunately swin it now been proved JSF is in bed with May, the man has no principles when it comes to money, I can see Holloway packing his bags and heading back down South, this time Fenty has gone too far and truly ruined the club ..
Indeed there appears to be evidence of a business arrangement twixt Mr Fenty and Mr May, but i cannot see anything as yet that links this arrangement to the club in a financial sense. That may still come out, but until then I will wait and see, and then draw conclusions based on that. |
|
|
|
|
|
| pontoonlew |
| December 13, 2020, 12:02pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,588
Posts Per Day: 1.01
Reputation: 72.45%
Rep Score: +37 / -15
Approval: +8,994
Gold Stars: 171
|
I have no inside knowledge about what’s going on here, but from the scraps of info and opinions leaking out, can’t see any evidence that Mr May is investing in GTFC, but he does have an interest in a property company along with Mr Fenty.
Think we need a bit more clarity before everyone gets into a rage about all of this, however shady Mr May is or is not.
Regardless of anything, the fact remains that the club invited a convicted fraudster to 4 games as a guest of the club. Even if the guy doesn’t invest and is never seen again, the very fact we welcomed him with open arms is an absolute disgrace. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 12:06pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
Indeed there appears to be evidence of a business arrangement twixt Mr Fenty and Mr May, but i cannot see anything as yet that links this arrangement to the club in a financial sense. That may still come out, but until then I will wait and see, and then draw conclusions based on that.
There's clear evidence of a convicted conman who has defrauded millions out of old people and institutions sat with our directors in our director's box at their invitation for the past few games. That not enough without going through carefully worded semantics of a club statement? |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 12:08pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Holloway said the Oystens were decent...
They probably were at the beginning, these are bad illegitimates right from the start and the board of GTFC knows it, There is no way John Fenty, who loves our club whatever anyone thinks, is going to let this bunch of twits get their hands on it anyway. |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MarinerDevil |
| December 13, 2020, 12:08pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,030
Posts Per Day: 0.38
Reputation: 81.19%
Rep Score: +5 / -1
Approval: +2,737
Gold Stars: 80
|
We really do need to just talk about what we know, which is very little right now, rather than speculating.
That said, serious questions need to be answered. It's yet more drama at a time the club can ill afford it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 12:11pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
There's clear evidence of a convicted conman who has defrauded millions out of old people and institutions sat with our directors in our director's box at their invitation for the past few games. That not enough without going through carefully worded semantics of a club statement?
I dont dispute that, but there remains no evidence of a financial connection between club and Mr May, if it turns out that May or his 'group' have become shareholders, then there is evidence. I want to see whats really going on. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 12:14pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Unfortunately swin it now been proved JSF is in bed with May, the man has no principles when it comes to money, I can see Holloway packing his bags and heading back down South, this time Fenty has gone too far and truly ruined the club ..
Frankly I don't care if Fenty is sleeping with the bloke providing he doesn't let him have any part of Grimsby Town Football Club |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Hagrid |
| December 13, 2020, 12:18pm |
|
|
Posts: 11,986
Posts Per Day: 2.80
Reputation: 71.14%
Rep Score: +49 / -21
Approval: +20,384
Gold Stars: 532
|
Fenty has refused to comment on any of it. Telegraph just posted
|
|
|
|
|
|
| realist |
| December 13, 2020, 12:18pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 768
Posts Per Day: 0.15
Reputation: 38.33%
Rep Score: +5 / -18
Approval: -2,684
Gold Stars: 41
|
If any investment is not directly to the club, then his visit is not for business and is a breach of Covid regulations. Fine the whole bunch of them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| realist |
| December 13, 2020, 12:19pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 768
Posts Per Day: 0.15
Reputation: 38.33%
Rep Score: +5 / -18
Approval: -2,684
Gold Stars: 41
|
Fenty has refused to comment on any of it. Telegraph just posted
Can Pete ring him? |
|
|
|
|
|
| pontoonlew |
| December 13, 2020, 12:22pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,588
Posts Per Day: 1.01
Reputation: 72.45%
Rep Score: +37 / -15
Approval: +8,994
Gold Stars: 171
|
Frankly I don't care if Fenty is sleeping with the bloke providing he doesn't let him have any part of Grimsby Town Football Club
The thought of Fenty ending up in jail does please me |
|
|
|
|
|
| TheRealJohnLewis |
| December 13, 2020, 12:22pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,250
Posts Per Day: 0.30
Reputation: 67.36%
Rep Score: +13 / -8
Approval: +2,308
Gold Stars: 39
|
Who would have thought that a Tory would align himself with crooks and thieves to further his own interests?
JF is not a fan, never has been, never will be, it's all about the ££££ and nothing else.
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| BlackandWhiteBarmy2 |
| December 13, 2020, 12:23pm |
|
Snakebite drinker Posts: 369
Posts Per Day: 0.30
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Location: Mablegrad
Approval: +1,022
Gold Stars: 59
|
They probably were at the beginning, these are bad illegitimates right from the start and the board of GTFC knows it, There is no way John Fenty, who loves our club whatever anyone thinks, is going to let this bunch of twits get their hands on it anyway.
I've been away for a while Swin and either you've changed of I've forgotten just how sarcastic you can be. Can't really compare Karl Oyston to Fenty because according to Holloway, Oyston was clever and brilliant at doing deals. |
| And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot.
No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all.
All that was really there was still more misery
Emile Zola |
|
|
|
|
|
| wuffing |
| December 13, 2020, 12:27pm |
|
 Table Wine Drinker Posts: 829
Posts Per Day: 0.41
Reputation: 83.38%
Rep Score: +7 / -1
Approval: +835
Gold Stars: 38
|
OH DEAR. WATCH OUT GRANNIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
'I walked in the dressing room. The window was open and I thought that a sea fret had got in. Then I saw smoke billowing from a pipe in the corner of the room...it was my centre-forward. He looked seven stone wet through. He went on to score thirty-odd goals that season.' Lawrie McMenemy on encountering the legend that was Matt Tees.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 12:29pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
I've been away for a while Swin and either you've changed of I've forgotten just how sarcastic you can be.
Can't really compare Karl Oyston to Fenty because according to Holloway, Oyston was clever and brilliant at doing deals.
Hi mate Where have you been? Firstly I'm not being sarcastic about Fenty I believe despite lots of people doubting it and costantly slagging him off that he loves our club and will never sell it to a bunch of villans, con men and ex-convicts Secondly Fenty is probably just as clever and brilliant at doing deals. How else did he con (sorry persuade) Holloway to come to a run down going nowhere lower Div 4 club? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ska face |
| December 13, 2020, 12:35pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,189
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 80.94%
Rep Score: +60 / -14
Approval: +21,640
Gold Stars: 840
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| BlackandWhiteBarmy2 |
| December 13, 2020, 12:39pm |
|
Snakebite drinker Posts: 369
Posts Per Day: 0.30
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Location: Mablegrad
Approval: +1,022
Gold Stars: 59
|
Hi mate Where have you been? Firstly I'm not being sarcastic about Fenty I believe despite lots of people doubting it and costantly slagging him off that he loves our club and will never sell it to a bunch of villans, con men and ex-convicts
Secondly Fenty is probably just as clever and brilliant at doing deals. How else did he con (sorry persuade) Holloway to come to a run down going nowhere lower Div 4 club?
Maybe Holloway is just too gullible. I took a bit of time out from the club, well football in general. I'm just trying to re-connect only to find nothing much nas changed. |
| And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot.
No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all.
All that was really there was still more misery
Emile Zola |
|
|
|
|
|
| Eastendmariner |
| December 13, 2020, 12:41pm |
|
Mariners Trust Life Member
Season Ticket Holder
Posts: 940
Posts Per Day: 0.16
Reputation: 69.11%
Rep Score: +8 / -5
Location: East London
Approval: +940
Gold Stars: 22
|
q from Hargrid
Fenty has refused to comment on any of it. Telegraph just posted
if this is correct In my opinion may is connected to the club
|
| Mariner Trust Life Member
Seen the Mariners win AWAY at 70 league Grounds
Grounds Visited 281[img][/img]
Blundell Park a Training ground for bum ref's |
|
|
|
|
|
| Swansea_Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 12:46pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,527
Posts Per Day: 0.61
Reputation: 85.79%
Rep Score: +22 / -3
Approval: +6,443
Gold Stars: 63
|
If he had no connection surely it would be easy enough to say just that
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 13, 2020, 12:54pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
Hi mate Where have you been? Firstly I'm not being sarcastic about Fenty I believe despite lots of people doubting it and costantly slagging him off that he loves our club and will never sell it to a bunch of villans, con men and ex-convicts
Secondly Fenty is probably just as clever and brilliant at doing deals. How else did he con (sorry persuade) Holloway to come to a run down going nowhere lower Div 4 club?
So what your saying is that the board sneaked him in the ground and Fenty didn't know?? Safe to say Fenty knows he's in BP and he knows the blokes background. Of all the disasters he has brought to this club this one could finish us. Nevermind though if JF gets his benign loans back jobs a good en. |
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 12:55pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
If he had no connection surely it would be easy enough to say just that
He can't say that though. They are listed as joint directors of the same company. Nothing legally wrong with that, but morally.... |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 12:56pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Maybe Holloway is just too gullible.
Well he certainly is in the transfer market |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 1:03pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
So what your saying is that the board sneaked him in the ground and Fenty didn't know??
Safe to say Fenty knows he's in BP and he knows the blokes background.
Of all the disasters he has brought to this club this one could finish us.
Nevermind though if JF gets his benign loans back jobs a good en.
I suspect that in normal times at least 20% of those in the ground have CRO. Seriously his presence in the ground does not mean he is taking over Grimsby Town Football Club nor that he is necessarily representing anyone who is John Fenty will not sell to a bunch of con men just to get his money back, he agreed a deal with Shutes which would have got his money back but which he turned down as the Shutes syndicate was not a suitable one to run the club If Fenty is involved with and has other dealing outside of GTFC with this crowd then its a very poor judgement indeed which will reflect badly on him but so long as they don't get their hands on GTFC I don't give a excrement |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 1:03pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
Who would have thought that a Tory would align himself with crooks and thieves to further his own interests?
JF is not a fan, never has been, never will be, it's all about the ££££ and nothing else.
I wondered who would be the first knob to bring politics into this. As if there has never been a Labour politician ever convicted of a fraudulent act. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 13, 2020, 1:07pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
Tweet 1338089296155316224 will appear here... |
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 1:11pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Like it! Last time some idiot put up a banner we got promoted |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 1:14pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
| December 13, 2020, 1:15pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,638
Posts Per Day: 1.34
Reputation: 79.65%
Rep Score: +43 / -11
Location: Norfolk
Approval: +8,658
Gold Stars: 23
|
I wondered who would be the first knob to bring politics into this.
As if there has never been a Labour politician ever convicted of a fraudulent act.
Yes it’s not like he’s the mayor of a big city is it? But if JF gets involved with someone as suspect as this he is asking for trouble. I always thought JF was a canny bloke in business but this does not look good for him. Even the argument that May’s money is as good as anyone’s wouldn’t convince me to let this con merchant near the club. The only concession I would make here is that we do at least know about this and about him. How much did we really know about the “investors” in the Parkway debacle or the backers of Shutes’ bids?? I do wonder how the story broke in the first place. Someone must have recognized him and grabbed a phone picture I suppose. |
| “If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty." |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 1:15pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
I suspect that in normal times at least 20% of those in the ground have CRO.
Seriously his presence in the ground does not mean he is taking over Grimsby Town Football Club nor that he is necessarily representing anyone who is
John Fenty will not sell to a bunch of con men just to get his money back, he agreed a deal with Shutes which would have got his money back but which he turned down as the Shutes syndicate was not a suitable one to run the club
If Fenty is involved with and has other dealing outside of GTFC with this crowd then its a very poor judgement indeed which will reflect badly on him but so long as they don't get their hands on GTFC I don't give a excrement
But is Fenty a suitable owner himself Swin? Notwithstanding the disgraceful record on the pitch, before this there's been a litany of scandals off it too as well as dilapidation and zero progression. Taken from a Cod Almighty article wriiten in March. Not even a comprehensive charge sheet, everyone could fill in plenty of other gaffes and embarrassments ie Tapegate, on the pitch ranting at FGR, telling Max Wright to get a part time job etc etc etc John Fenty has said he will no longer be involved in the day-to-day running of Grimsby Town. It is impossible not to hope he is being sincere
John Fenty has announced "he is stepping back from the day-to-day operations of Grimsby Town Football Club".
At first, Fenty's chairmanship of the club did come as something of a relief after the boardroom battles and the collapse of ITV Digital in the early 2000s. He described the situation he inherited in an interview for Cod Almighty in 2005. Since then though, the mistakes and the mis-turnings - some of them described below - have mounted.
In appointing Holloway, Fenty has put the club in a healthier position than it was at the end of 2019. And if the club is going to owe money, it is probably better owed to Fenty than to the bank or to Revenue & Customs, although who knows how much of the club's debt is down to bad decisions, the pursuit of Peaks Parkway and revenue lost from our slide down the leagues. It certainly isn't money needed for the daily running of the club, as Fenty has been getting his loans repaid in recent years.
Reviewing Fenty's record, it is hard not to fear his withdrawal may simply be his latest dodge to try and evade the evident conflict of interest between him being a councillor responsible for regeneraton and the major shareholder of a football club hoping to benefit from regeneration. Apart from Holloway, he has left in place the same board that has had so little positive influence on events throughout Fenty's tenure. Let's hope it isn't so.
September 2003
Unhappy with admittedly questionable coverage in the Grimsby Telegraph of ambulance availability at Blundell Park, the club responds not by rebutting the report but by withdrawing accreditation from the reporter.
March 2004
Caretaker manager Graham Rodger wins three games out of six after a run of 10 games without a win under Paul Groves had tipped Town into a relegation fight. But, citing Rodger's lack of contacts, John Fenty brings in Nicky Law. Town win just three more games all season, and a team of players brought in on short-term contracts go down listlessly at Tranmere on the final day of the season.
June 2005
John McDermott, winner of multiple player-of-the-season awards for 2004-05, is rewarded with a contract that cuts his pay from £650 to £400 a week - and that only after Russell Slade had worked a couple of deals on his behalf. At one point in negotiations, when Fenty was demanding he do extra coaching and scouting in the evenings to top-up his earnings, he told McDermott "I thought you'd be pleased to get out of the house, you've got four kids haven't you?" Fenty's chiselling treatment of a genuine club legend did not stop him trying to share in the acclaim early next season though, when McDermott made his 700th Town appearance.
May 2006
"Football fortune hasn’t been kind. Had we not been second so often in the numerous visits to Wembley and at the Millennium Stadium during the last 14 years, the record would look very different." writes John Fenty.
Two of our six Wembley and Cardiff appearances were in the FA Trophy: a cup that a sizeable proportion of fans thought at the time we should have sacked off (although I'm not one of them). Another was in the Football League Trophy, when it was still a legitimate competition. Wins in those games might have filled the honours board, but they'd not have made the descent from second to fifth flight any more palatable.
Then there are three play-off finals. In 2015, we lost to Bristol Rovers but the club came out of the experience stronger and won our one Wembley final, and promotion, in 2016.
The only real turning point missed came a decade before, when we were aiming for promotion to the third flight under Russell Slade. The week before the final, it was announced that at the end-of-season awards night, Slade would sign a new contract. He didn't. Contract talks dragged on until after the final, when Town turned in a performance that bore all the hallmarks of a team not properly prepared. Slade eventually left for Yeovil.
Fenty had played a game of brinksmanship with Slade and the club had lost. That is not bad "football fortune": that suggests mismanagement.
November 2006
Graham Rodger is sacked as manager. Possibly a correct decision, but certainly a hasty one after 20 games in charge. "Graham Rodger has been most loyal and dedicated servant to the Club, which started back in 1992, he has qualities this Club needs, the shame of it is that this man deserved better. Sadly, he has become a victim of circumstances' fallen in his current roll due to the unrelenting pressures and lack of patience that surrounds football." someone wrote. That 'someone' is a club statement, describing it's own shameful and impatient treatment of its manager.
The club appears to have been blaming the fans for having to sack him. Can we really call that effective leadership?
August 2007
Grimsby Town's ongoing spat with BBC Humberside reaches a new milestone when they award broadcasting rights to Compass FM, a radio station that can hardly be heard outside the immediate area of Grimsby and Cleethorpes and has no experience in sports broadcasting.
December 2007
John Fenty's complaint to Ofcom about BBC Humberside's coverage of Grimsby Town is thrown out on every count.
October 2009
Mike Newell is sacked. Certainly, in the light of what we know now, the correct decision, but just one week after John Fenty had said "Players, who think another two games and we will have a new manager and a new opportunity to hang on, must think again." Whatever way you read that, it hardly suggests good stewardship.
February 2011
One day, John Fenty told the world that "If we didn't believe in what Neil Woods was doing, we would make a change but that's not the case.". Next day, he sacked Neil Woods. Fenty usually insists on the confidentiality of boardroom decision-making, but he was willing to make clear he had been against appointing Woods in the first place.
Woods, like Rodger before him, was becoming the target of fan abuse. It is worth bearing in mind their treatment by the board when later it claimed credit for persevering with Paul Hurst.
March 2012
The Mariners Trust is donated £200,000 worth of shares by Mike Parker. Fenty claims the club will run out of money and have to sell key players unless the trust hands the shares over to him. Years later, he said he had no recollection of making that threat, but it hung over the discussion and ballot on the issue - he certainly didn't deny it at the time. Is this the behaviour of a man who has been "a strong supporter of the Mariners Trust from inception"?
March 2012
A judge determines that John Fenty has "acted recklessly" after Boston United successfully sues the club over the poaching of their joint managers Rob Scott and Paul Hurst. Boston were asking for £10,400 in compensation. The case ended up costing Town about £40,000, as well as damaging our reputation.
April 2013
John Fenty snaps a flag being waved in the directors box by a family member of a Newport director during a game. The boy was 10 years old.
July 2013
John Fenty demands that the Fishy's messageboard is shut down.
September 2013
After joint-manager Rob Scott is suspended and Town are beaten 4-0 at Halifax, John Fenty calls a BBC Humberside phone-in to berate it's journalists for asking whether the two facts could possibly be related. Yet another instance of Fenty blaming journalists for being journalists.
June 2016
Pádraig Amond, after scoring 30 goals in 2015-16, is offered only a one-year contract, the two-and-a-half year deal he had asked to defer talks on earlier in the year withdrawn. Amond leaves, and Town have been finding goals hard to come by ever since. It is possible that manager Paul Hurst had doubts about Amond - although all Podge's utterances about his time at Grimsby suggest otherwise. The episode is certainly reminiscent of Fenty's earlier treatment of John McDermott.
August 2016
Andy Carr is sacked as the mascot Mighty Mariner after he calls for a boycott of B-team matches. As getyourfactsright, John Fenty moves in the space of one Fishy posting from saying Carr is a valued employee to claiming not to have known he is paid at all. To replace Carr, the club launches a scheme where fans pay to be Mighty Mariner.
Fenty had voted for the inclusion of B-teams in the Football League Trophy, apparently wih no reference to the rest of the board. He says he only did so after being reassured that the move would not be the "thin of the wedge" to having B-teams in the League; a reassurance that is less than reassuring when in May Fenty had said "I'd much rather see the introduction of Premier League reserve teams in an expanded, regional League Two... Games against, say Man United under-23s would be sure to enhance attendances."
October 2016
After five years at Blundell Park, Paul Hurst leaves for Shrewsbury. In a secretly-recorded discussion, Fenty will claim it was the fans who drove Hurst out. Hurst has since made clear he left when his hopes of strengthening the coaching staff were not just rejected but belittled ("When did a fitness coach last win three points on a Saturday" or words to that effect.) Ironically, after alienating the only man in the 21st century to have got Town promoted, Fenty then gave the resources he had denied Hurst to his successors: Marcus Bignot then Russell Slade.
April 2017
Marcus Bignot is sacked as manager after just five months. The board didn't like his approach apparently. If only they'd thought to ask him what his approach would be before they appointed him. Fenty said one reason for his dismissal was the size of the squad Bignot had recruited - something Fenty had been boasting about in January.
August 2017
When the Internet Mariners organise a charity match against the Donny R'sonists to express their opposition to B-teams in the Football League Trophy, they find offers to host the match are mysteriously withdrawn. Lucarlys "are concerned about how they will be viewed in future" if they host a charity match. Bradley Pitches are concerned at how it might affect their relationship with Grimsby Town.
November 2017
Most club directors would use a fans' forum to improve their relationship with supporters. Not ours, not this time. Fenty set the tone when, posting as getyourfactsright on the Fishy, he made clear he was preparing for a confrontation.
Over the course of an evening, we were then told that the fans were to blame for the lack of investment in the club. That Operation Promotion had made no positive difference. That the fans only had themselves to blame for being made to show their bras if they were women, or use toilet facilities in front of female stewards if they were men, at Stevenage. It was fellow director Steven Marley who told a fan - at an occasion intended to give fans a voice - to "shut up". But it was Fenty who had set the tone.
Fenty and Slade also used the occasion to pursue their spat with BBC Humberside, Two weeks before, Matt Dean had reported rumours that Curtis Woodhouse was going to be added to the club's coaching staff. It was an issue that the club and BBC Humberside had resolved the week before, but Fenty and Slade reopened it, grilling Dean, who was chairing the meeting.
August 2019
James McKeown is described by John Fenty as "hauling the club over the coals a little bit" when he asks for an improved contract. 14 years on from the original Macca, and Fenty still appeared to think popular players should not expect to be paid as well as praised.
In the same interview, Fenty tells us the stadium manager, Nick Dale, is doing "a great job". That's the Nick Dale who the week before had said Town were the one team other clubs don't want to play because of our alleged hooligan problem, and was revealed to have cost the club a £15,000 fine after failing to act on police intelligence before a game against Port Vale which was interrupted by crowd fighting.
November 2019
Michael Jolley leaves Grimsby by mutual consent. The club was preparing a disciplinary hearing over a foul-mouthed rant our then-manager had directed at Matt Dean the month before, fortuitously leaked the day after Jolley's departure. There is no evidence BBC Humberside had formally complained about the incident, which John Tondeur had discussed, and resolved, with Jolley a few days after it happened.
Curiously, Fenty was particularly concerned that Jolley had drawn attention to the limited playing budget available to him. He also suggested that the idea of a long-term strategy had been mainly Jolley's: success in football comes quickly or not at all, apparently.
February 2020
John Fenty confirms that there will be no takeover of Grimsby Town, blaming interested bidders for delaying the club's relocation to Freeman Street. This despite the fact he had only admitted a few months before that there were any takeover talks, and that as recently as January 2019 he had still been describing Peaks Parkway as the best option for a new ground. Who knows how much time, and money, was wasted on that particular project.Totally unsuited for the role of football club owner, completely inept and everyone else pays the price.. |
|
|
|
|
|
| forza ivano |
| December 13, 2020, 1:17pm |
|
Exile Posts: 14,721
Posts Per Day: 2.46
Reputation: 78.4%
Rep Score: +72 / -20
Approval: +15,159
Gold Stars: 265
|
Yes it’s not like he’s the mayor of a big city is it? But if JF gets involved with someone as suspect as this he is asking for trouble. I always thought JF was a canny bloke in business but this does not look good for him. Even the argument that May’s money is as good as anyone’s wouldn’t convince me to let this con merchant near the club. The only concession I would make here is that we do at least know about this and about him. How much did we really know about the “investors” in the Parkway debacle? I do wonder how the story broke in the first place. Someone must have recognized him and grabbed a phone picture I suppose.
my guess is that someone knew of May's involvement , weren't happy about it, got in contact with someone in the local press, who then got the photographer to turn up and in the meantime alerted Loyd Griffiths to the story ps wonder if JSF has mentioned all this in his register of interests at the council?? |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:40pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
This isnt going to end well, but Im going to wait for whatever the official statement says rather than take the word of a pub act and his media puppet, before drawing conclusions.
Why not? You name yourself after a pub act |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:43pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Indeed there appears to be evidence of a business arrangement twixt Mr Fenty and Mr May, but i cannot see anything as yet that links this arrangement to the club in a financial sense. That may still come out, but until then I will wait and see, and then draw conclusions based on that.
Then why is May even in the ground when a match is on? It stinks. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rodley Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:46pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,807
Posts Per Day: 1.36
Reputation: 78.86%
Rep Score: +63 / -17
Location: Farsley, Leeds
Approval: +13,239
Gold Stars: 176
|
The only concession I would make here is that we do at least know about this and about him. How much did we really know about the “investors” in the Parkway debacle or the backers of Shutes’ bids??
I am struggling with the logic of this when we only know because of a leak and what we know is that he is a convicted career fraudster. Sounds like better the devil you don't to me. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Zmariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:46pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,024
Posts Per Day: 0.17
Reputation: 75.95%
Rep Score: +8 / -3
Approval: +2,127
Gold Stars: 44
|
Who would have thought that a Tory would align himself with crooks and thieves to further his own interests?
JF is not a fan, never has been, never will be, it's all about the ££££ and nothing else.
1. Politicians of all sides not covered themselves in any glory and so take off your blinkers 2. JF is a fan, always has been, always will and so get your facts right UTM |
|
|
|
|
|
| grimsby pete |
| December 13, 2020, 1:48pm |
|
Exile Posts: 55,684
Posts Per Day: 9.80
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,797
Gold Stars: 222
|
As some one previously mentioned if he was not there on business what was he doing there ?
|
| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
68 Years following the Town
Life member of Trust
First game April 1955
|
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:48pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Yes it’s not like he’s the mayor of a big city is it? But if JF gets involved with someone as suspect as this he is asking for trouble. I always thought JF was a canny bloke in business but this does not look good for him. Even the argument that May’s money is as good as anyone’s wouldn’t convince me to let this con merchant near the club. The only concession I would make here is that we do at least know about this and about him. How much did we really know about the “investors” in the Parkway debacle or the backers of Shutes’ bids??I do wonder how the story broke in the first place. Someone must have recognized him and grabbed a phone picture I suppose.
If you follow that logic through, it’s like saying we don’t trust Shutes’ team because we don’t know they have a convicted fraudster on board. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 1:50pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
Then why is May even in the ground when a match is on? It stinks.
Don’t know... maybe something to do with Mr Fenty’s business arrangements with Mr May... or as we may find out at the invite of the club. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Eastendmariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:52pm |
|
Mariners Trust Life Member
Season Ticket Holder
Posts: 940
Posts Per Day: 0.16
Reputation: 69.11%
Rep Score: +8 / -5
Location: East London
Approval: +940
Gold Stars: 22
|
Hopefully we will soon find out what is going on and his involvement with our club. TBH I really because of his form he wasn't involved at all. Not trust worthy
|
| Mariner Trust Life Member
Seen the Mariners win AWAY at 70 league Grounds
Grounds Visited 281[img][/img]
Blundell Park a Training ground for bum ref's |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 1:57pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Don’t know... maybe something to do with Mr Fenty’s business arrangements with Mr May... or as we may find out at the invite of the club.
It’s a breach of the regulations if he isn’t a club official. So either the club has broken the law or it has a convicted fraudster in a position of responsibility. Either way heads should roll. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| denni266 |
| December 13, 2020, 2:00pm |
|
 Whiskey Drinker Posts: 4,289
Posts Per Day: 0.83
Reputation: 47.09%
Rep Score: +13 / -21
Approval: +696
Gold Stars: 132
|
If this con man was not there on buisseness he should not be in the ground at all ,and i dont class watching a game as working end off.. And its a kick in the teeth for all the fans that cannot go and watch from the club. . and it shows me that fenty would sell us down the river
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Supersixty |
| December 13, 2020, 2:19pm |
|
Coke Drinker Posts: 37
Posts Per Day: 0.01
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +33
|
The club invites lots of people to games home and away, directors guests they call them, freeloading on the prawn sarnies, couple of them post on here, mostly the inner circle |
|
|
|
|
|
| TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
| December 13, 2020, 2:33pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,638
Posts Per Day: 1.34
Reputation: 79.65%
Rep Score: +43 / -11
Location: Norfolk
Approval: +8,658
Gold Stars: 23
|
If you follow that logic through, it’s like saying we don’t trust Shutes’ team because we don’t know they have a convicted fraudster on board.
Well actually I think there is some truth in that Kingston. The fly by night developers who get involved in football stadia building are not easy to research properly without some experience, which we as fans do not often possess. If somebody is coming into BP in some capacity I would like to see it all open and above board beforehand. |
| “If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty." |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 2:51pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Well actually I think there is some truth in that Kingston. The fly by night developers who get involved in football stadia building are not easy to research properly without some experience, which we as fans do not often possess.
If somebody is coming into BP in some capacity I would like to see it all open and above board beforehand.
I too would prefer full disclosure. Sometimes though for genuine reasons parties to a potential investment scheme want to retain anonymity as long as possible. We just have to rely on those in power following the right processes.* Most of the time it’s probably OK. But to start the process with a known fraudster is a ‘mistake’ of the first order. * having said that, we know that the track record in football of following the right process is pretty poor. Regarding the bit I highlighted about experience: I bet there’s plenty of experience amongst our fan base with big commercial and real estate deals. There’s all sorts of business and government experience out there. There is probably more collective experience out there than the GTFC hierarchy could muster. Bringing it all together for the community good is the trick. And that will never happen with the present club ownership model. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 2:51pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
1. Politicians of all sides not covered themselves in any glory and so take off your blinkers
2. JF is a fan, always has been, always will and so get your facts right
UTM
If John Fenty is a fan of Grimsby Town Football Club, then why does he continue to take the pi55 out of the normal fans who have continued to dip their hands in their pockets to pay for the shitshow he’s presided over? |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| GrimPol |
| December 13, 2020, 3:01pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,026
Posts Per Day: 0.59
Reputation: 53.86%
Rep Score: +3 / -7
Approval: -656
Gold Stars: 69
|
Uljana Adamczyk is a woman's name. Just saying |
|
|
|
|
|
| lew chaterleys lover |
| December 13, 2020, 3:04pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,005
Posts Per Day: 1.07
Reputation: 75.9%
Rep Score: +30 / -10
Approval: +10,716
Gold Stars: 236
|
I am relatively new to the details of this story, as I seem to spend most of my time denying I am a bigot , but this has got to be the end for our dear leader surely? He has started up a development company with a convicted fraudster who stole from elderly people. The BBC are on the story now, and the council must be absolutely livid - him being deputy leader and all. If they ever write a manual for how not to run a football club, Fenty is your main man. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 3:04pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
This is a genuine question but is Fenty a fan? I don’t think I ever saw him at BP or away games before he became involved with the club.
If he is the fan he says he is, and we’ve no reason to doubt that then you’d argue he’s the worst placed person to make decisions because he can’t be objective and pragmatic. Is that the reason he’s been awful perhaps?
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 3:07pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
This is a genuine question but is Fenty a fan? I don’t think I ever saw him at BP or away games before he became involved with the club.
If he is the fan he says he is, and we’ve no reason to doubt that then you’d argue he’s the worst placed person to make decisions because he can’t be objective and pragmatic. Is that the reason he’s been awful perhaps?
I don’t doubt that he attended games since being a kid. He’s a fan. But I don’t think he hasn’t a clue how to run a football club and has shown appalling judgment. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rodley Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 3:08pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,807
Posts Per Day: 1.36
Reputation: 78.86%
Rep Score: +63 / -17
Location: Farsley, Leeds
Approval: +13,239
Gold Stars: 176
|
The danger of somebody like Shutes coming into the club is that he could turn out to be involved with crooks. Whereas now we know that John Fenty is definitely invovled with a crook and we can say that on here safely because it is all there in black and white. So that's great isn't it?!
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 3:11pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
But is Fenty a suitable owner himself Swin?
Notwithstanding the disgraceful record on the pitch, before this there's been a litany of scandals off it too as well as dilapidation and zero progression.
Taken from a Cod Almighty article wriiten in March. Not even a comprehensive charge sheet, everyone could fill in plenty of other gaffes and embarrassments ie Tapegate, on the pitch ranting at FGR, telling Max Wright to get a part time job etc etc etc
John Fenty has said he will no longer be involved in the day-to-day running of Grimsby Town. It is impossible not to hope he is being sincere
John Fenty has announced "he is stepping back from the day-to-day operations of Grimsby Town Football Club".
At first, Fenty's chairmanship of the club did come as something of a relief after the boardroom battles and the collapse of ITV Digital in the early 2000s. He described the situation he inherited in an interview for Cod Almighty in 2005. Since then though, the mistakes and the mis-turnings - some of them described below - have mounted.
In appointing Holloway, Fenty has put the club in a healthier position than it was at the end of 2019. And if the club is going to owe money, it is probably better owed to Fenty than to the bank or to Revenue & Customs, although who knows how much of the club's debt is down to bad decisions, the pursuit of Peaks Parkway and revenue lost from our slide down the leagues. It certainly isn't money needed for the daily running of the club, as Fenty has been getting his loans repaid in recent years.
Reviewing Fenty's record, it is hard not to fear his withdrawal may simply be his latest dodge to try and evade the evident conflict of interest between him being a councillor responsible for regeneraton and the major shareholder of a football club hoping to benefit from regeneration. Apart from Holloway, he has left in place the same board that has had so little positive influence on events throughout Fenty's tenure. Let's hope it isn't so.
September 2003
Unhappy with admittedly questionable coverage in the Grimsby Telegraph of ambulance availability at Blundell Park, the club responds not by rebutting the report but by withdrawing accreditation from the reporter.
March 2004
Caretaker manager Graham Rodger wins three games out of six after a run of 10 games without a win under Paul Groves had tipped Town into a relegation fight. But, citing Rodger's lack of contacts, John Fenty brings in Nicky Law. Town win just three more games all season, and a team of players brought in on short-term contracts go down listlessly at Tranmere on the final day of the season.
June 2005
John McDermott, winner of multiple player-of-the-season awards for 2004-05, is rewarded with a contract that cuts his pay from £650 to £400 a week - and that only after Russell Slade had worked a couple of deals on his behalf. At one point in negotiations, when Fenty was demanding he do extra coaching and scouting in the evenings to top-up his earnings, he told McDermott "I thought you'd be pleased to get out of the house, you've got four kids haven't you?" Fenty's chiselling treatment of a genuine club legend did not stop him trying to share in the acclaim early next season though, when McDermott made his 700th Town appearance.
May 2006
"Football fortune hasn’t been kind. Had we not been second so often in the numerous visits to Wembley and at the Millennium Stadium during the last 14 years, the record would look very different." writes John Fenty.
Two of our six Wembley and Cardiff appearances were in the FA Trophy: a cup that a sizeable proportion of fans thought at the time we should have sacked off (although I'm not one of them). Another was in the Football League Trophy, when it was still a legitimate competition. Wins in those games might have filled the honours board, but they'd not have made the descent from second to fifth flight any more palatable.
Then there are three play-off finals. In 2015, we lost to Bristol Rovers but the club came out of the experience stronger and won our one Wembley final, and promotion, in 2016.
The only real turning point missed came a decade before, when we were aiming for promotion to the third flight under Russell Slade. The week before the final, it was announced that at the end-of-season awards night, Slade would sign a new contract. He didn't. Contract talks dragged on until after the final, when Town turned in a performance that bore all the hallmarks of a team not properly prepared. Slade eventually left for Yeovil.
Fenty had played a game of brinksmanship with Slade and the club had lost. That is not bad "football fortune": that suggests mismanagement.
November 2006
Graham Rodger is sacked as manager. Possibly a correct decision, but certainly a hasty one after 20 games in charge. "Graham Rodger has been most loyal and dedicated servant to the Club, which started back in 1992, he has qualities this Club needs, the shame of it is that this man deserved better. Sadly, he has become a victim of circumstances' fallen in his current roll due to the unrelenting pressures and lack of patience that surrounds football." someone wrote. That 'someone' is a club statement, describing it's own shameful and impatient treatment of its manager.
The club appears to have been blaming the fans for having to sack him. Can we really call that effective leadership?
August 2007
Grimsby Town's ongoing spat with BBC Humberside reaches a new milestone when they award broadcasting rights to Compass FM, a radio station that can hardly be heard outside the immediate area of Grimsby and Cleethorpes and has no experience in sports broadcasting.
December 2007
John Fenty's complaint to Ofcom about BBC Humberside's coverage of Grimsby Town is thrown out on every count.
October 2009
Mike Newell is sacked. Certainly, in the light of what we know now, the correct decision, but just one week after John Fenty had said "Players, who think another two games and we will have a new manager and a new opportunity to hang on, must think again." Whatever way you read that, it hardly suggests good stewardship.
February 2011
One day, John Fenty told the world that "If we didn't believe in what Neil Woods was doing, we would make a change but that's not the case.". Next day, he sacked Neil Woods. Fenty usually insists on the confidentiality of boardroom decision-making, but he was willing to make clear he had been against appointing Woods in the first place.
Woods, like Rodger before him, was becoming the target of fan abuse. It is worth bearing in mind their treatment by the board when later it claimed credit for persevering with Paul Hurst.
March 2012
The Mariners Trust is donated £200,000 worth of shares by Mike Parker. Fenty claims the club will run out of money and have to sell key players unless the trust hands the shares over to him. Years later, he said he had no recollection of making that threat, but it hung over the discussion and ballot on the issue - he certainly didn't deny it at the time. Is this the behaviour of a man who has been "a strong supporter of the Mariners Trust from inception"?
March 2012
A judge determines that John Fenty has "acted recklessly" after Boston United successfully sues the club over the poaching of their joint managers Rob Scott and Paul Hurst. Boston were asking for £10,400 in compensation. The case ended up costing Town about £40,000, as well as damaging our reputation.
April 2013
John Fenty snaps a flag being waved in the directors box by a family member of a Newport director during a game. The boy was 10 years old.
July 2013
John Fenty demands that the Fishy's messageboard is shut down.
September 2013
After joint-manager Rob Scott is suspended and Town are beaten 4-0 at Halifax, John Fenty calls a BBC Humberside phone-in to berate it's journalists for asking whether the two facts could possibly be related. Yet another instance of Fenty blaming journalists for being journalists.
June 2016
Pádraig Amond, after scoring 30 goals in 2015-16, is offered only a one-year contract, the two-and-a-half year deal he had asked to defer talks on earlier in the year withdrawn. Amond leaves, and Town have been finding goals hard to come by ever since. It is possible that manager Paul Hurst had doubts about Amond - although all Podge's utterances about his time at Grimsby suggest otherwise. The episode is certainly reminiscent of Fenty's earlier treatment of John McDermott.
August 2016
Andy Carr is sacked as the mascot Mighty Mariner after he calls for a boycott of B-team matches. As getyourfactsright, John Fenty moves in the space of one Fishy posting from saying Carr is a valued employee to claiming not to have known he is paid at all. To replace Carr, the club launches a scheme where fans pay to be Mighty Mariner.
Fenty had voted for the inclusion of B-teams in the Football League Trophy, apparently wih no reference to the rest of the board. He says he only did so after being reassured that the move would not be the "thin of the wedge" to having B-teams in the League; a reassurance that is less than reassuring when in May Fenty had said "I'd much rather see the introduction of Premier League reserve teams in an expanded, regional League Two... Games against, say Man United under-23s would be sure to enhance attendances."
October 2016
After five years at Blundell Park, Paul Hurst leaves for Shrewsbury. In a secretly-recorded discussion, Fenty will claim it was the fans who drove Hurst out. Hurst has since made clear he left when his hopes of strengthening the coaching staff were not just rejected but belittled ("When did a fitness coach last win three points on a Saturday" or words to that effect.) Ironically, after alienating the only man in the 21st century to have got Town promoted, Fenty then gave the resources he had denied Hurst to his successors: Marcus Bignot then Russell Slade.
April 2017
Marcus Bignot is sacked as manager after just five months. The board didn't like his approach apparently. If only they'd thought to ask him what his approach would be before they appointed him. Fenty said one reason for his dismissal was the size of the squad Bignot had recruited - something Fenty had been boasting about in January.
August 2017
When the Internet Mariners organise a charity match against the Donny R'sonists to express their opposition to B-teams in the Football League Trophy, they find offers to host the match are mysteriously withdrawn. Lucarlys "are concerned about how they will be viewed in future" if they host a charity match. Bradley Pitches are concerned at how it might affect their relationship with Grimsby Town.
November 2017
Most club directors would use a fans' forum to improve their relationship with supporters. Not ours, not this time. Fenty set the tone when, posting as getyourfactsright on the Fishy, he made clear he was preparing for a confrontation.
Over the course of an evening, we were then told that the fans were to blame for the lack of investment in the club. That Operation Promotion had made no positive difference. That the fans only had themselves to blame for being made to show their bras if they were women, or use toilet facilities in front of female stewards if they were men, at Stevenage. It was fellow director Steven Marley who told a fan - at an occasion intended to give fans a voice - to "shut up". But it was Fenty who had set the tone.
Fenty and Slade also used the occasion to pursue their spat with BBC Humberside, Two weeks before, Matt Dean had reported rumours that Curtis Woodhouse was going to be added to the club's coaching staff. It was an issue that the club and BBC Humberside had resolved the week before, but Fenty and Slade reopened it, grilling Dean, who was chairing the meeting.
August 2019
James McKeown is described by John Fenty as "hauling the club over the coals a little bit" when he asks for an improved contract. 14 years on from the original Macca, and Fenty still appeared to think popular players should not expect to be paid as well as praised.
In the same interview, Fenty tells us the stadium manager, Nick Dale, is doing "a great job". That's the Nick Dale who the week before had said Town were the one team other clubs don't want to play because of our alleged hooligan problem, and was revealed to have cost the club a £15,000 fine after failing to act on police intelligence before a game against Port Vale which was interrupted by crowd fighting.
November 2019
Michael Jolley leaves Grimsby by mutual consent. The club was preparing a disciplinary hearing over a foul-mouthed rant our then-manager had directed at Matt Dean the month before, fortuitously leaked the day after Jolley's departure. There is no evidence BBC Humberside had formally complained about the incident, which John Tondeur had discussed, and resolved, with Jolley a few days after it happened.
Curiously, Fenty was particularly concerned that Jolley had drawn attention to the limited playing budget available to him. He also suggested that the idea of a long-term strategy had been mainly Jolley's: success in football comes quickly or not at all, apparently.
February 2020
John Fenty confirms that there will be no takeover of Grimsby Town, blaming interested bidders for delaying the club's relocation to Freeman Street. This despite the fact he had only admitted a few months before that there were any takeover talks, and that as recently as January 2019 he had still been describing Peaks Parkway as the best option for a new ground. Who knows how much time, and money, was wasted on that particular project.
Totally unsuited for the role of football club owner, completely inept and everyone else pays the price..
To answer the question you posed before listing all the bile, balderdash and bullshit that emanates from Cod Almighty, the answer is yes, he is suitable, He has kept the club in business which in itself is a plus and whatever his faults he is far more suitable than a bunch of people who could pay him off but then might not have a pot to urine in to continue to run the club or, as is being rumoured now, a syndicate fronted by a convicted financial con man and thief. Compared to the two possible alternatives I know who I prefer to ensure we still have a club going forward. I just hope Fenty hasn't dropped a serious bollock which will bring him even more trouble than the fans do |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 3:12pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
Uljana Adamczyk is a woman's name. Just saying
Is that the current ‘significant other’? |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 3:14pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
Is that the current ‘significant other’?
Polish birds are in the main quite fit |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 3:14pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
If you follow that logic through, it’s like saying we don’t trust Shutes’ team because we don’t know they have a convicted fraudster on board.
Do we know they haven't? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MNH1972 |
| December 13, 2020, 3:15pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 73
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +215
Gold Stars: 5
|
I hope it’s the end of Mr Fenty. The guy is a disgrace and an embarrassment to our Football Club
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 3:18pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
If John Fenty is a fan of Grimsby Town Football Club, then why does he continue to take the pi55 out of the normal fans who have continued to dip their hands in their pockets to pay for the shitshow he’s presided over?
I thought Fenty had dipped his hand into his pocket too, isn't that the 'benign loan' that folk are always bleating about? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 3:24pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
I hope it’s the end of Mr Fenty. The guy is a disgrace and an embarrassment to our Football Club
Fair enough, if that's the majority view I just hope he calls in all his loans first thing tomorrow. |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 3:28pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
Fair enough, if that's the majority view I just hope he calls in all his loans first thing tomorrow.
I hope he finds some morals and writes the loans off.. |
|
|
|
|
|
| GrimPol |
| December 13, 2020, 3:43pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,026
Posts Per Day: 0.59
Reputation: 53.86%
Rep Score: +3 / -7
Approval: -656
Gold Stars: 69
|
I wonder why Alex May/Alick Kapikanya wasn't deported once let out of prison, he is a Zambian not British.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 3:45pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
I hope he finds some morals and writes the loans off..
You really expect him to do that after the years of abuse he's received simply for having the loan? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 3:50pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
You really expect him to do that after the years of abuse he's received simply for having the loan?
Maybe your memory isn’t great but Bigdog’s post earlier shows how the loan was built up. You wanted to write off Fenty’s track record, maybe the way to do it would be to write off the debt that it caused. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 3:54pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
You really expect him to do that after the years of abuse he's received simply for having the loan?
No, because he would never ultimately put the club before himself.. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 3:58pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
maybe the way to do it would be to write off the debt that it caused.
Its a theoretical question I know but would you? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 3:59pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
Tweet 1338094591078260736 will appear here... |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Rodley Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 4:00pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,807
Posts Per Day: 1.36
Reputation: 78.86%
Rep Score: +63 / -17
Location: Farsley, Leeds
Approval: +13,239
Gold Stars: 176
|
I know you like to play the contrarian Swin but trying to support JF over this is really pushing it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 4:01pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
Its a theoretical question I know but would you?
Thing is, we've all probably had a daydream or two of having a good few million spare to invest in GTFC. I bet not one of us in the daydream thought, you know what, I'll loan the club some money. 100% everyone would have been gifting or buying shares.. After the initial 700k, JF has been chasing his own money back.. |
|
|
|
|
|
| barralad |
| December 13, 2020, 4:05pm |
|
Mariners Trust
Posts: 13,806
Posts Per Day: 2.32
Reputation: 79.47%
Rep Score: +85 / -22
Approval: +9,290
Gold Stars: 126
|
This is a genuine question but is Fenty a fan? I don’t think I ever saw him at BP or away games before he became involved with the club.
If he is the fan he says he is, and we’ve no reason to doubt that then you’d argue he’s the worst placed person to make decisions because he can’t be objective and pragmatic. Is that the reason he’s been awful perhaps?
Mr Fenty and at least some of his brothers have been following Town away since at least the late 70s. They used to travel on the supporters coaches one of which at the time I was a steward on. |
| The aim of argument or discussion should not be victory but progress.
Joseph Joubert. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:08pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
I know you like to play the contrarian Swin but trying to support JF over this is really pushing it.
I am not 'supporting Fenty over this' at all I am merely pointing out that we don't know what 'this' is yet. Whilst the man's very presence at BP is totally abhorrent to me I do not believe that John Fenty would sell the club to him or any of his dodgy syndicate. Have a go at Fenty and criticise his judgement for even allowing the man anywhere near BP and for apparently having business dealings with him through the company that has been identified but so far that's it. He's been very stupid it appears but it's a long way from selling them our football club |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:09pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Thing is, we've all probably had a daydream or two of having a good few million spare to invest in GTFC. I bet not one of us in the daydream thought, you know what, I'll loan the club some money. 100% everyone would have been gifting or buying shares.. After the initial 700k, JF has been chasing his own money back..
Easy to say when you've got intercourse all apart from a daydream |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 4:17pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
I am not 'supporting Fenty over this' at all I am merely pointing out that we don't know what 'this' is yet. Whilst the man's very presence at BP is totally abhorrent to me I do not believe that John Fenty would sell the club to him or any of his dodgy syndicate.
Have a go at Fenty and criticise his judgement for even allowing the man anywhere near BP and for apparently having business dealings with him through the company that has been identified but so far that's it. He's been very stupid it appears but it's a long way from selling them our football club
Well, under current Covid restrictions, he shouldn’t be in Blundell Park unless he’s there on business. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| EY Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 4:17pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 849
Posts Per Day: 0.14
Reputation: 80.9%
Rep Score: +9 / -2
Approval: +865
Gold Stars: 5
|
Given everything that has emerged over the last 24 hours, the level of concern expressed here is entirely understandable. However, it seems to me that the most immediate questions are for Mr Fenty himself, rather than the club, particularly given the potential political difficulties the revelations may create. That said, if Mr Shutes, or any legitimate bidder remains interested, there's no better time than now to bid.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:20pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Well, under current Covid restrictions, he shouldn’t be in Blundell Park unless he’s there on business.
For felicitations sake if that's his only crime he's unlikely to be recalled to prison to serve the rest of his sentence is he? Perhaps he's being lined up as the next manager. Who knows? We don't |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Bigdog |
| December 13, 2020, 4:23pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.13
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
Easy to say when you've got intercourse all apart from a daydream
Keep taking the tablets Swin.. |
|
|
|
|
|
| blundellpork |
| December 13, 2020, 4:23pm |
|
 Table Wine Drinker Posts: 541
Posts Per Day: 0.09
Reputation: 72.83%
Rep Score: +3 / -2
Approval: +1,655
Gold Stars: 32
|
Maybe your memory isn’t great but Bigdog’s post earlier shows how the loan was built up. You wanted to write off Fenty’s track record, maybe the way to do it would be to write off the debt that it caused.
Like Ramsden before him? If I were to win the Euromillions, I would love to pile cash into the club, but I wouldn’t want my name anywhere near it as the scrutiny, abuse and accusations aren’t worth it. To be clear, from all I have seen and heard, I don’t want this character anywhere near my club, but we do have to give the club the opportunity to reply before condemning them. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:24pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Keep taking the tablets Swin..
You're the one with the dodgy dreams sunbeam |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MNH1972 |
| December 13, 2020, 4:27pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 73
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +215
Gold Stars: 5
|
Fair enough, if that's the majority view I just hope he calls in all his loans first thing tomorrow.
Well that’s not going to happen is it |
|
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 4:28pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
Surely positions for Fenty are untenable, especially the Deputy Leader of the council?? Setting up a business with a convicted fraudster who robbed old people of their money and still on Licence from prison, brings into account a persons morale fibre??? Positions of leadership and power come with great responsibility and require the upmost integrity and I for one don’t see any integrity in having association with Alex May!
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:29pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Well that’s not going to happen is it
No thank goodness it isn't The club would really be in the excrement if he did. Interesting if he is forced out by the publicity, the fans et al. Opinion seems to be he will want his money back. We'd have to sell some of Holloway's star signings |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:33pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Surely positions for Fenty are untenable, especially the Deputy Leader of the council?? Setting up a business with a convicted fraudster who robbed old people of their money and still on Licence from prison, brings into account a persons morale fibre??? Positions of leadership and power come with great responsibility and require the upmost integrity and I for one don’t see any integrity in having association with Alex May!
Wouldn't argue with that at all, major error of judgement if all is as it appears |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MNH1972 |
| December 13, 2020, 4:34pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 73
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +215
Gold Stars: 5
|
No thank goodness it isn't The club would really be in the excrement if he did. Interesting if he is forced out by the publicity, the fans et al. Opinion seems to be he will want his money back. We'd have to sell some of Holloway's star signings
He’s not going to put the club in jeopardy of going under then he will get very little of his money back. A decent person would realise what a excrement job they’ve done and walk |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:35pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
He’s not going to put the club in jeopardy of going under then he will get very little of his money back. A decent person would realise what a excrement job they’ve done and walk
and still get very little of his money back? |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 4:39pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
You're the one with the dodgy dreams sunbeam
Dodgy dreams are probably better than the last 20 years nightmare including relegation into Non League. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| tails303 |
| December 13, 2020, 4:43pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 525
Posts Per Day: 0.09
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Location: Slumthorpe
Approval: +182
|
Fair enough, if that's the majority view I just hope he calls in all his loans first thing tomorrow.
That sharp object has cost the club more than he is owed |
|
|
|
|
|
| Swansea_Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 4:49pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,527
Posts Per Day: 0.61
Reputation: 85.79%
Rep Score: +22 / -3
Approval: +6,443
Gold Stars: 63
|
Fair enough, if that's the majority view I just hope he calls in all his loans first thing tomorrow.
Seriously you are bizzare. Do you actually think he has done a good job, if you do that's fine, but from where I sit lots of that money was wasted on shocking decision making. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 4:55pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
Imagine tomorrow when we learn that Honest John has sold his shares to Mr May, it will be armagedon,
|
|
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 4:55pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
Seriously you are bizzare. Do you actually think he has done a good job, if you do that's fine, but from where I sit lots of that money was wasted on shocking decision making.
An estimated £3 million alone the club lost out on in the 6 years out of the Football League. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:57pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Seriously you are bizzare. Do you actually think he has done a good job, if you do that's fine, but from where I sit lots of that money was wasted on shocking decision making.
At no point have I ever said he has done a good job I merely point out 1) that the loan which appears to upset everbody actually kept the club afloat 2) there is no evidence at all that he is selling to this May character or anyone he represents 3) the 'job' he has done is not the issue here, it is simpky being used as an additional thing to hit him with on top of what appears to have been a dreadful error of judgement (and at this point no more than that) |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 4:59pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Imagine tomorrow when we learn that Honest John has sold his shares to Mr May, it will be armagedon,
and I will be at the front of the queue doing all I can to rip him up for bottom paper but until then... |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 5:01pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
At no point have I ever said he has done a good job
I merely point out
1) that the loan which appears to upset everbody actually kept the club afloat
2) there is no evidence at all that he is selling to this May character or anyone he represents. Why would John even want to keep company with this guy, let alone set up a business?? Would you?
3) the 'job' he has done is not the issue here, it is simpky being used as an additional thing to hit him with on top of what appears to have been a dreadful error of judgement (and at this point no more than that)
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 5:01pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
An estimated £3 million alone the club lost out on in the 6 years out of the Football League.
Im not sure you can blame him for the penalty shoot out |
|
|
|
|
|
| Swansea_Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 5:07pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 3,527
Posts Per Day: 0.61
Reputation: 85.79%
Rep Score: +22 / -3
Approval: +6,443
Gold Stars: 63
|
People don't object to the loan as a point of principle though Swin, people object to the way the debt accumulated over time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 5:12pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
People don't object to the loan as a point of principle though Swin, people object to the way the debt accumulated over time.
Exactly. Cash burned on poor decisions, some penny pinching decisions, if they were one-off it would be more understandable but it was a cumulative thing. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 5:22pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
|
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 5:22pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
Im not sure you can blame him for the penalty shoot out
Which penalty shoot out? Bristol Rovers? that was after 5 years in Non League so I'll make it £2.5 million |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| denni266 |
| December 13, 2020, 5:30pm |
|
Whiskey Drinker Posts: 4,289
Posts Per Day: 0.83
Reputation: 47.09%
Rep Score: +13 / -21
Approval: +696
Gold Stars: 132
|
For felicitations sake if that's his only crime he's unlikely to be recalled to prison to serve the rest of his sentence is he?
Perhaps he's being lined up as the next manager. Who knows? We don't
Does not matter what crime , Breaking the law, in any form, however small, If you are out on licence you can and should be recalled |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 5:45pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Does not matter what crime , Breaking the law, in any form, however small, If you are out on licence you can and should be recalled
Oh please! If all you've got on him is breaking Covid rules whilst out on licence he's hardly a threat to society If every prisoner out on licence was recalled for breaking Covid rules the prisons would be fuller than the hospitals As far as I am concerned the board can invite who they like into BP (Adolf Hitler if they wish after all they let that twit Farage in) so long as my club is not sold to or in anyway controlled by MAY OR ANYONE HE REPRESENTS |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 5:56pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Bristol Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 6:08pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,242
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 72.78%
Rep Score: +11 / -5
Approval: +2,877
Gold Stars: 79
|
1. Politicians of all sides not covered themselves in any glory and so take off your blinkers
2. JF is a fan, always has been, always will and so get your facts right
UTM
Bollo*x. There I’ve gotmyfactsright |
| GTFC Exile, Bristol Mariners |
|
|
|
|
|
| lew chaterleys lover |
| December 13, 2020, 6:08pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,005
Posts Per Day: 1.07
Reputation: 75.9%
Rep Score: +30 / -10
Approval: +10,716
Gold Stars: 236
|
Now that it has hit the national media, and the local BBC a real concern is how Ollie will react to all this. Somebody rightly said earlier Ollie is very big on families and trust, so this is going to go down like a lead balloon. I hope to God the only people we lose in all this are the board members not the manager. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 13, 2020, 6:13pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
|
|
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| pen penfras |
| December 13, 2020, 6:27pm |
|
 Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,687
Posts Per Day: 0.67
Reputation: 58.56%
Rep Score: +8 / -9
Approval: -127
Gold Stars: 71
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| heppy88 |
| December 13, 2020, 6:30pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 867
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Approval: +3,079
Gold Stars: 40
|
Town fans make national/international news for fund raising, for their incredible support..... Fenty makes the news for cuddling up to ticket touts, fraudsters, being secretly recorded, spitting his dummy out on away pitches, deconstructing child’s flag....... |
|
|
|
|
|
| Boris Johnson |
| December 13, 2020, 6:31pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 900
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 35.65%
Rep Score: +2 / -15
Approval: -2,797
Gold Stars: 4
|
Now that it has hit the national media, and the local BBC a real concern is how Ollie will react to all this.
Somebody rightly said earlier Ollie is very big on families and trust, so this is going to go down like a lead balloon.
I hope to God the only people we lose in all this are the board members not the manager.
I thought Holloway was on the board, God help the Ollie boys if he knew what was going on... Surely he would have to resign? |
|
|
|
|
|
| 28195 |
| December 13, 2020, 6:35pm |
|
Guest User |
Can’t even relax on holiday being a Town fan, why do we worry so much? The world is full of rich people who want to spend their dosh, I’m certain there will be a formidable queue when JF let’s us go.
I’ve had the runs all day, the wife said I’ve had too much to drink but I’m sure it’s because i’ve been reading the fishy all day and watching Town last night.
Good night from the Indian Ocean UTM❤️
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 6:36pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Thanks for the update and justification John! Most of us with morales wouldn’t go into business with someone who systematically defrauded huge sums of money out of a manipulation of property owned by elderly people. He would have continued had he not been caught and has he even paid back everything that he stole? Doing something once is a mistake, repeatedly and systematically is not a mistake, it’s a horror and someone that I would not want within a million miles of me or my family. I’m sure had it been you at the sharpe end of this con you wouldn’t feel so forgiving?? And this is absolutely what’s wrong with John Fenty being involved with our club, he sees the business opportunities before moral fibre kicks in. Maybe it’s time to look in the mirror John and find some of your own moral fibre, grow a pair and start acting with a little bit more humility and respect for the fans and what we have done to keep the is club going. |
|
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 6:38pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Surprise surprise. pen penfras defends JF. I don't care how repentant he is. He swindled vulnerable people out of millions, both in Manchester and Sleaford. Had chauffer driven cars, lived in 5 star hotels and gambled huge amounts at casinos. This wasn't a "mistake". This was a concerted effort over many years to defraud honest people and line his pockets, so he could live a jet set life style. He doesn't deserve any leeway. |
|
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 13, 2020, 6:39pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Given Fenty's history whilst running this club, I wouldn't trust his judgement on anything. Judge a man by the company he keeps. A decent bloke doesn't need a second chance from conning the elderly out of their savings and homes. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Dan |
| December 13, 2020, 6:39pm |
|
Exile Posts: 2,054
Posts Per Day: 0.36
Reputation: 69.68%
Rep Score: +36 / -17
Location: London
Approval: +551
|
The author is a town fan to be fair, he writes about us a bit.
As for if Mr May is a reformed character and has paid his dues...maybe. But where has his money come from? He’s barely out of prison. If he’s hired for his expertise...well I highly doubt there’s any legitimate skills he has someone more suitable doesn’t.
|
|
Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 6:41pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
In my opnion, people who con and swindle unsuspecting elderly people do not deserve a second chance. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 6:42pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
Given Fenty's history whilst running this club, I wouldn't trust his judgement on anything. Judge a man by the company he keeps. A decent bloke doesn't need a second chance from conning the elderly out of their savings and homes.
Fenty just sees an opportunity for someone else’s money to be spent that he can kick into touch like he did with the Mullen’s. He does not care where the money comes from, whom it hurts just as long as it’s not his money being spent. |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 6:42pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
As far as I’m concerned, John Fenty can go into business with whoever he likes. When he invites that person into Blundell Park, when the fans can’t attend, and there’s a link to a company called Blundell Park Project, then that needs calling out. Under the name of Alex May, he’s already registered several companies under several addresses - hardly the actions of a man going straight. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| GrimRob |
| December 13, 2020, 6:45pm |
|
Moderator
Posts: 12,672
Posts Per Day: 2.12
Reputation: 69.92%
Rep Score: +76 / -34
Approval: +13,403
Gold Stars: 113
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Maybe he is a reformed character, but wouldn't the way to go about it be to present him to the fans/trust and let them see him for themselves and make their own minds up? I realise it probably wasn't meant to happen the way it has panned out, but Notts County had a look at him and turned him away. He's been condemned now because of the way it has come out and it will be almost impossible to persuade people that he is a reformed character when perhaps there was a slim chance he might have brought at least some supporters on board. |
| 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
~ Alfred Lord Tennyson
|
|
|
|
|
|
| LH |
| December 13, 2020, 6:46pm |
|
Moderator
Posts: 11,475
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 71.54%
Rep Score: +30 / -13
Approval: +18,500
Gold Stars: 173
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Pleased to hear from you. We were about to send a search party. What time will you be releasing the statement? |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 6:48pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
Pleased to hear from you. We were about to send a search party. What time will you be releasing the statement?
Lol 😂 |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| mirrorballman |
| December 13, 2020, 6:48pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 117
Posts Per Day: 0.03
Approval: +552
Gold Stars: 8
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Not everyone deserves a second chance and go back to their old life after they've served their time. I can think of several crimes where that simply isn't the case. It's ludicrous to suggest a guy getting locked up in fraud for 6 years in 2014 can walk straight back into a position where large sums of money are bring moved about. For a start, where is his money coming from? |
|
|
|
|
|
| dapperz fun pub |
| December 13, 2020, 6:48pm |
|
|
Posts: 9,346
Posts Per Day: 1.59
Reputation: 84.95%
Rep Score: +37 / -6
Approval: +9,929
Gold Stars: 82
|
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.[/quote]
A mistake ?? What he did was calculated thought out and carried out no second chance from me
|
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 6:52pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Do we know they haven't?
The point is, there are options if you are going to sell: (A) go with a team with a known convicted fraudster; or (B) go with a team where we don’t know has a fraudster on board. Most logical people would not choose (A). There might be a fraudster that we don’t know about in team b, there might not be. The risk that there is a fraudster with (B) is less than 100%. The risk of there being a fraudster in team (A) is 100%. If you’re not selling then what the hell are you doing inviting a fraudster into a public venue that the public are banned from? He’s got no business being there. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 6:53pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
Pleased to hear from you. We were about to send a search party. What time will you be releasing the statement?
Exactly always posting as if it’s straight from Fenty’s mouth and with context that’s only possible from either Fenty or his clan. Fenty needs to realise that the club is not worth the value of his shares, the other shares out there and his loans! To simply hold investors to ransom for recovery of this money is an absolute joke and never likely to happen unless new investors have very deep pockets and a massive love for the club, because the investment cannot possibly finish with paying Fenty off. If you have seriously had enough John then simply write it off and walk away, others will come in if they know that they don’t have to bail out previous bad mistakes by paying off those that have made them. My feeling is that you love the fight John and is a sick way get off on all this uproar. |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 6:56pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
For felicitations sake if that's his only crime he's unlikely to be recalled to prison to serve the rest of his sentence is he?
Perhaps he's being lined up as the next manager. Who knows? We don't
Other folk have had their collars felt for this. Why shouldn’t the person who let May in to the ground? |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| mirrorballman |
| December 13, 2020, 6:57pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 117
Posts Per Day: 0.03
Approval: +552
Gold Stars: 8
|
Hilarious to see the red crosses arrive one by one from Fenty and his pals. What a petty little man😂
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ska face |
| December 13, 2020, 6:59pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,189
Posts Per Day: 1.21
Reputation: 80.94%
Rep Score: +60 / -14
Approval: +21,640
Gold Stars: 840
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Crawl out Fenty’s ringpiece for one second will you? If this crook wants to put right his mistakes he can start with repaying every penny he stole from his victims, not being given the VIP treatment (at OUR expense, by the way) at BP. He’s a social pariah and it speaks volumes of Day and Fenty that they’d even entertain the idea of his involvement with the club. Either they think the fans are idiots, or they are. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Iknowyoursecret |
| December 13, 2020, 6:59pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 120
Posts Per Day: 0.08
Reputation: 60.18%
Rep Score: +0 / -3
Approval: -34
Gold Stars: 2
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 28195 |
| December 13, 2020, 6:59pm |
|
Guest User |
Hilarious to see the red crosses arrive one by one from Fenty and his pals. What a petty little man😂
Sad bunch, the people who run our club. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 7:00pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
Other folk have had their collars felt for this. Why shouldn’t the person who let May in to the ground?
Exactly the director that brought him in should resign |
|
|
|
|
|
| 28195 |
| December 13, 2020, 7:01pm |
|
Guest User |
Is Lloyd still trying to be a comedian? The lad has talent but I’m not sure if it’s gags......
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Hagrid |
| December 13, 2020, 7:01pm |
|
|
Posts: 11,986
Posts Per Day: 2.80
Reputation: 71.14%
Rep Score: +49 / -21
Approval: +20,384
Gold Stars: 532
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
Dear lord are you shagging Fenty!? You’re either a wind up or you are blind. Fenty is toxic. This man is convicted criminal who conned elderly vulnerable people out of life savings and homes. Second chance? Get stuffed. You need a wake up call pal. Defending the indefensible |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 7:01pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Exactly the director that brought him in should resign
Let’s face it, we wouldn’t miss them. Hardly bringing much to the table... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 7:02pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Wow, I bet some keyboards are going to be sore in the morning!
This guy can't possibly be involved in running a football club, his conviction precludes that.
Nobody on here knows him, knows how repentant or reformed he is. He has paid his dues as convicted and everybody deserves a 2nd chance. Obviously Fenty has been involved with his associates for a number of years, and maybe he approached Fenty with good business opportunities and Fenty feels he is a reformed character and deserves an opportunity to make something legitimately.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way approve of his past, and what he did is despicable. But in terms of fairness, everybody should be given an opportunity to put right their mistakes.
I’m all for reform and second chances. It’s the best thing in the long term for society. But you’ve got to manage the risk. Putting a convicted paedophile in charge of a nursery is not a good idea. Giving a fraudster fiduciary interest in a company is not a good idea. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 7:05pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
The point is, there are options if you are going to sell:
(A) go with a team with a known convicted fraudster; or
(B) go with a team where we don’t know has a fraudster on board.
Most logical people would not choose (A). There might be a fraudster that we don’t know about in team b, there might not be. The risk that there is a fraudster with (B) is less than 100%. The risk of there being a fraudster in team (A) is 100%.
If you’re not selling then what the hell are you doing inviting a fraudster into a public venue that the public are banned from? He’s got no business being there.
I’d love the red crosser to step forward to refute this logic. It might be a breakthrough moment in rational thought that we could all learn from. We might have a new Bertrand Russell amongst our ranks! |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Garth |
| December 13, 2020, 7:13pm |
|
 Season Ticket Holder Posts: 11,493
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 80.75%
Rep Score: +55 / -13
Approval: +4,921
Gold Stars: 26
|
John Fenty needs a name change to Harry Houdini if he comes out of this unscathed, assuming all that Ive read on here is true
|
|
|
|
|
|
| grimsby pete |
| December 13, 2020, 7:18pm |
|
Exile Posts: 55,684
Posts Per Day: 9.80
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,797
Gold Stars: 222
|
Maybe he is a reformed character, but wouldn't the way to go about it be to present him to the fans/trust and let them see him for themselves and make their own minds up? I realise it probably wasn't meant to happen the way it has panned out, but Notts County had a look at him and turned him away. He's been condemned now because of the way it has come out and it will be almost impossible to persuade people that he is a reformed character when perhaps there was a slim chance he might have brought at least some supporters on board.
I have a few doubts if he was presented to the trust to say he is a reformed man, How do you know he is genuine or just conning them Rob ? You can never trust a con man because they are very good at convincing you to believe what they want you to believe. That is no defence for Fenty because before going into business with him he should have checked on his back ground. Then had nothing to do with him. I would imagine the council will want to look into this matter so I bet Fenty is having a game of snooker with his solicitor as we speak.I Bloody predictive text every time I put Fenty it puts girl private. |
| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
68 Years following the Town
Life member of Trust
First game April 1955
|
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 7:19pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
John Fenty needs a name change to Harry Houdini if he comes out of this unscathed, assuming all that Ive read on here is true
Mr Houdini red crossed you because he didn’t want to be guilty by association. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:19pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
If you’re not selling then what the hell are you doing inviting a fraudster into a public venue that the public are banned from? He’s got no business being there.
That's the whole point WE DON'T KNOW. It appears Fenty has been very stupid and has (or had) entered into a business relationship with a convicted fraudster As yet there is no evidence that the fraudster's sights are in anyway on GTFC more like if he can persuade (con) gullible John Fenty in his poisition on the council into some dodgy town centre rebirth building deal So long as it does not in any way impact on the ownership, future and running of GTFC (other than the shock horror that he watched a match against Covid rules) frankly I'm not that bothered |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 7:21pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
That's the whole point WE DON'T KNOW.
It appears Fenty has been very stupid and has (or had) entered into a business relationship with a convicted fraudster
As yet there is no evidence that the fraudster's sights are in anyway on GTFC more like if he can persuade (con) gullible John Fenty in his poisition on the council into some dodgy town centre rebirth building deal
So long as it does not in any way impact on GTFC frankly I'm not that bothered
You’re not getting it are you? If his sights aren’t on GTFC, then he shouldn’t have been at the ground. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 13, 2020, 7:29pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
That's the whole point WE DON'T KNOW.
It appears Fenty has been very stupid and has (or had) entered into a business relationship with a convicted fraudster
As yet there is no evidence that the fraudster's sights are in anyway on GTFC more like if he can persuade (con) gullible John Fenty in his poisition on the council into some dodgy town centre rebirth building deal
So long as it does not in any way impact on the ownership, future and running of GTFC (other than the shock horror that he watched a match against Covid rules) frankly I'm not that bothered
Then why has he been to multiple games this season when the actual fans have been to none? And why is he breaking Tier 3 rules to go to a football match of a shite division 3 team that he has no interest in? |
|
|
|
|
|
| Dan |
| December 13, 2020, 7:29pm |
|
Exile Posts: 2,054
Posts Per Day: 0.36
Reputation: 69.68%
Rep Score: +36 / -17
Location: London
Approval: +551
|
|
|
|
Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:30pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
You’re not getting it are you? If his sights aren’t on GTFC, then he shouldn’t have been at the ground.
Why not? You would have been there if it wasn't for Covid does that mean you would be buying the club? Seriously, rightly or wrongly Fenty is in some way involved (against his better judgement it appears in hindsight) with this man in a company or business venture and we don't know yet if the sale of the club is at the heart of it or not - yet. Inviting a business associate to see a match would not be all that unusual, knowing Fenty he might have been trying to impress (con) the con man with a look at his empire, lunch and a seat in the exec area.! For what its worth May looks bored stiff I think he's more interested in his phone judging by the photo. |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 7:30pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
John Fenty needs a name change to Harry Houdini if he comes out of this unscathed, assuming all that Ive read on here is true
He always does 😢 |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:32pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
why has he been to multiple games this season when the actual fans have been to none? And why is he breaking Tier 3 rules to go to a football match
Is that what this is really about? Sulking because the ex-con has seen a game and you haven't |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Henryscat |
| December 13, 2020, 7:32pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,207
Posts Per Day: 0.23
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +1,395
|
That's the whole point WE DON'T KNOW.
It appears Fenty has been very stupid and has (or had) entered into a business relationship with a convicted fraudster
As yet there is no evidence that the fraudster's sights are in anyway on GTFC more like if he can persuade (con) gullible John Fenty in his poisition on the council into some dodgy town centre rebirth building deal
So long as it does not in any way impact on the ownership, future and running of GTFC (other than the shock horror that he watched a match against Covid rules) frankly I'm not that bothered
I would say his involvement with Colin Dodd of “Blundell Park Project Ltd” would suggest he has sights |
| Panic on the streets of Carlisle, Dublin, Dundee, Humberside |
|
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 7:36pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
Why not? You would have been there if it wasn't for Covid does that mean you would be buying the club?
Seriously, rightly or wrongly Fenty is in some way involved (against his better judgement it appears in hindsight) with this man in a company or business venture and we don't know yet if the sale of the club is at the heart of it or not - yet. Inviting a business associate to see a match would not be all that unusual, knowing Fenty he might have been trying to impress (con) the con man with a look at his empire, lunch and a seat in the exec area.!
For what its worth May looks bored stiff I think he's more interested in his phone judging by the photo.
Fenty is supposed to be a businessman and astute with business is he not? So why would you 1. Break Covid EFL rules and bring someone to the match repeatedly if you are not looking at them helping out the club in some way? 2. Not think to yourself that this is probably not a good idea after the Notts County fiasco and 3. Not consider that being involved with a high profile fraudster is probably not a smart move for someone who is deputy leader of the council and responsible for regeneration? And to make things worse then go into business with them in a venture that’s part of regeneration and causes a conflict of interest with the local authority? Surely people must be thinking that we need to complain to NELC about this as he should not be allowed to continue with such conflicting roles and ventures with a high level fraudster. |
|
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 13, 2020, 7:42pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
Is that what this is really about? Sulking because the ex-con has seen a game and you haven't
You've got me! |
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 7:43pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Why not? You would have been there if it wasn't for Covid does that mean you would be buying the club?
Seriously, rightly or wrongly Fenty is in some way involved (against his better judgement it appears in hindsight) with this man in a company or business venture and we don't know yet if the sale of the club is at the heart of it or not - yet. Inviting a business associate to see a match would not be all that unusual, knowing Fenty he might have been trying to impress (con) the con man with a look at his empire, lunch and a seat in the exec area.!
For what its worth May looks bored stiff I think he's more interested in his phone judging by the photo.
You must be going out of your way to disengage your brain on this Swin because we know that you’re an intelligent man. Deliberately missing the point. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:43pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Fenty is supposed to be a businessman and astute with business is he not? So why would you 1. Break Covid EFL rules and bring someone to the match repeatedly if you are not looking at them helping out the club in some way? 2. Not think to yourself that this is probably not a good idea after the Notts County fiasco and 3. Not consider that being involved with a high profile fraudster is probably not a smart move for someone who is deputy leader of the council and responsible for regeneration? And to make things worse then go into business with them in a venture that’s part of regeneration and causes a conflict of interest with the local authority? Surely people must be thinking that we need to complain to NELC about this as he should not be allowed to continue with such conflicting roles and ventures with a high level fraudster.
But we all know how awful Fenty's judgement is, look at the managers he's appointed. He might have made a lot of money but he is sometimes not the sharpest knife in the box and does not engage his brain before opening his mouth (we have all seen his 'statements' in the past) Whether he has just been stupid or he has been well and truly conned I don't know but I am absolutely sure that he would not sell GTFC to anyone or a syndicate that is not right for the club's future, if that was the case he would have taken Shutes money the amount of which had been agreed.. |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| SDUTM |
| December 13, 2020, 7:45pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 77
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Approval: +179
Gold Stars: 2
|
You've got me!
Sulking because we have paid not to watch our club at the stadium, yet this unsavoury person is allowed to break the rules and watch the match for free |
|
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 13, 2020, 7:47pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
You really expect him to do that after the years of abuse he's received simply for having the loan?
intercourse me are you his Batman?? |
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:49pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
You must be going out of your way to disengage your brain on this Swin because we know that you’re an intelligent man. Deliberately missing the point.
I am simply pointing out that the ex-con was not at Blundell Park yesterday to collect the keys to the executive drinks cabinet from John Fenty and if he has been as regular a visitor as has been alleged surely Holloway must have been aware of his presence if not actually introduced? John Fenty has not sold to May or whatever he is calling himself this week nor will he |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 7:50pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
Fenty is supposed to be a businessman and astute with business is he not? So why would you 1. Break Covid EFL rules and bring someone to the match repeatedly if you are not looking at them helping out the club in some way? 2. Not think to yourself that this is probably not a good idea after the Notts County fiasco and 3. Not consider that being involved with a high profile fraudster is probably not a smart move for someone who is deputy leader of the council and responsible for regeneration? And to make things worse then go into business with them in a venture that’s part of regeneration and causes a conflict of interest with the local authority? Surely people must be thinking that we need to complain to NELC about this as he should not be allowed to continue with such conflicting roles and ventures with a high level fraudster.
In effect it appears an offence has been committed. Humberside police should investigate just as they would any business which breaches Covid rules. If a picture appeared in the local paper of say the Notts, serving drinks to people at 11PM, the Old Bill would be all over it. If people had a party at their house with 30 people in attendance, they’d turn up with vans. If 100 people turned up at a wedding reception in a hotel, the Daily Mail would be full of righteous (and valid) indignation. |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 13, 2020, 7:50pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
But we all know how awful Fenty's judgement is, look at the managers he's appointed. He might have made a lot of money but he is sometimes not the sharpest knife in the box and does not engage his brain before opening his mouth (we have all seen his 'statements' in the past)
Whether he has just been stupid or he has been well and truly conned I don't know but I am absolutely sure that he would not sell GTFC to anyone or a syndicate that is not right for the club's future, if that was the case he would have taken Shutes money the amount of which had been agreed..
Not if the new consortium said they wouldn't want him involved and he insists that is part of the deal. Seen a lot of people suggesting this and we all know what a megalomaniac he is. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Iknowyoursecret |
| December 13, 2020, 7:51pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 120
Posts Per Day: 0.08
Reputation: 60.18%
Rep Score: +0 / -3
Approval: -34
Gold Stars: 2
|
Is that what this is really about? Sulking because the ex-con has seen a game and you haven't
Swin do you really think people are sulking about how a con man can go to a game try looking at the last few weeks of Covid deaths here.People are worried and this goon breeches Covid rules.Grow up |
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:55pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 7:58pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Swin do you really think people are sulking about how a con man can go to a game try looking at the last few weeks of Covid deaths here.People are worried and this goon breeches Covid rules.Grow up
No of course I don't but please, leave the Covid excrement out of it, people are up in arms and worried that John Fenty will sell our club to a syndicate headed by a con man that's where everybody's concerns should be channelled |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 13, 2020, 7:59pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
Obviously he's not conned your elderly relatives out of there home/life savings so that's okay |
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| jonnyboy82 |
| December 13, 2020, 8:01pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,324
Posts Per Day: 1.28
Reputation: 67.42%
Rep Score: +71 / -36
Approval: +5,688
Gold Stars: 95
|
A Convicted fraud and john fenty.
What could possibly go wrong?
|
| GTFC |
|
|
|
|
|
| Squinter |
| December 13, 2020, 8:02pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 181
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +587
Gold Stars: 9
|
31 pages on this thread and we don't know any facts yet. Although I don't want this guy anywhere near the club, I would like questions answered first before making judgement :-
A) Did Fenty know of his previous convictions ? There is a big reason why he canged his name.
B) Is his reason being here related to GTFC or something else ?
C) If it is GTFC related, he probably hasn't got enough money himself, so who is he representing ? I doubt it, but it could be somebody reputable ( maybe he's best mates with a Hollywood film star )
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 8:03pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Obviously he's not conned your elderly relatives out of there home/life savings so that's okay
I am not taking anything away from his awful crime merely pointing out that his breach of Covid rules which seems to be increasing in importance is not the real basis of today's panic and anger surely |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 13, 2020, 8:05pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
31 pages on this thread and we don't know any facts yet. Although I don't want this guy anywhere near the club, I would like questions answered first before making judgement :-
A) Did Fenty know of his previous convictions ? There is a big reason why he canged his name.
B) Is his reason being here related to GTFC or something else ?
C) If it is GTFC related, he probably hasn't got enough money himself, so who is he representing ? I doubt it, but it could be somebody reputable ( maybe he's best mates with a Hollywood film star )
Exactly, hang Fenty when we know |
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| arryarryarry |
| December 13, 2020, 8:14pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 10,252
Posts Per Day: 1.71
Reputation: 52.76%
Rep Score: +26 / -28
Approval: +10,040
Gold Stars: 116
|
intercourse me are you his Batman??
No, his Robin but I'm not prepared to confirm he wears green panties and yellow stockings. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 8:15pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
31 pages on this thread and we don't know any facts yet. Although I don't want this guy anywhere near the club, I would like questions answered first before making judgement :-
A) Did Fenty know of his previous convictions ? There is a big reason why he canged his name.
B) Is his reason being here related to GTFC or something else ?
C) If it is GTFC related, he probably hasn't got enough money himself, so who is he representing ? I doubt it, but it could be somebody reputable ( maybe he's best mates with a Hollywood film star )
A) if he didn’t, he should have. Due diligence. B) If it wasn’t, he shouldn’t have been at any of the last 4 games. C) Probably still relates to Colin Dodds who I believe was also in the photo. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MNH1972 |
| December 13, 2020, 8:18pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 73
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +215
Gold Stars: 5
|
Exactly, hang Fenty when we know
He’s done enough without this to be hounded out of the club |
|
|
|
|
|
| 137 |
| December 13, 2020, 8:20pm |
|
Guest User |
31 pages on this thread and we don't know any facts yet. Although I don't want this guy anywhere near the club, I would like questions answered first before making judgement :-
A) Did Fenty know of his previous convictions ? There is a big reason why he canged his name.
B) Is his reason being here related to GTFC or something else ?
C) If it is GTFC related, he probably hasn't got enough money himself, so who is he representing ? I doubt it, but it could be somebody reputable ( maybe he's best mates with a Hollywood film star )
Reputable people would be unlikely to choose a convicted fraudster to represent them, I feel. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 13, 2020, 8:27pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
The Trust have already told us that he won't be involved in the day to day running of the club, and is part of a deal that " will help the club".
I will assume that it's some kind of enabling project involving property and probably explains the setting up of a property company with JF, so Swin has a point with his train of thought. JF would be run out of town if he relinquished GTFC to him or his associates, and he knows that.
However, he should have known better than to involve himself with a shyster and then there is his role of portfolio holder for regeneration to consider. Surely this can't all be above board given his majority shareholding in the club.
If this arrangement helps the club as the Trust have said, then it helps JF personally and that is a conflict.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| sam gy |
| December 13, 2020, 8:37pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,795
Posts Per Day: 0.33
Reputation: 83.91%
Rep Score: +18 / -3
Approval: +5,477
Gold Stars: 55
|
I think Fenty’s main issue with Shutes is probably his membership and significant donations to the Labour Party. For example, earlier in the year he donated £15,000 to Lisa Nandy’s leadership campaign.
Re: Shutes... if he still wants to buy the club now is the time. Fenty has scored a huge own goal allowing that man into the ground.
Yep. But we’re not allowed to bring ‘politics into football’ are we. Even though, y’know, our owner is a local councillor for a political party. Football and politics are mutually exclusive. Of course. |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 8:38pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
The Trust have already told us that he won't be involved in the day to day running of the club, and is part of a deal that " will help the club".
I will assume that it's some kind of enabling project involving property and probably explains the setting up of a property company with JF, so Swin has a point with his train of thought. JF would be run out of town if he relinquished GTFC to him or his associates, and he knows that.
However, he should have known better than to involve himself with a shyster and then there is his role of portfolio holder for regeneration to consider. Surely this can't all be above board given his majority shareholding in the club.
If this arrangement helps the club as the Trust have said, then it helps JF personally and that is a conflict.
Didn’t the Shutes proposal include an enabling project? |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| louth_in_the_south |
| December 13, 2020, 8:40pm |
|
Exile Posts: 4,106
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 70%
Rep Score: +25 / -12
Location: Forest Row
Approval: +5,672
Gold Stars: 94
|
Exactly, hang Fenty when we know
Jeez Swin . Don’t be so naive. Why set up these dodgy businesses. He knew . And we know he knew. JF has embarrassed the club and fans he’s supposed to represent. All the board should should walk with immediate affect and bd banned from BP for life . |
| Lower F5 |
|
|
|
|
|
| Squinter |
| December 13, 2020, 8:43pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 181
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +587
Gold Stars: 9
|
A) if he didn’t, he should have. Due diligence.
B) If it wasn’t, he shouldn’t have been at any of the last 4 games.
C) Probably still relates to Colin Dodds who I believe was also in the photo.
A) N/A if not related to GTFC, who Fenty deals in his personal business life is up to him. B) Yes your right, but my next door neighbour shouldn't be have her whole family around in her house for a party either, plenty of people out there breaking the rules. C) Again just speculation it was Dodds. I'll wait until confirmed. |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 13, 2020, 8:50pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
A) N/A if not related to GTFC, who Fenty deals in his personal business life is up to him.
B) Yes your right, but my next door neighbour shouldn't be have her whole family around in her house for a party either, plenty of people out there breaking the rules.
C) Again just speculation it was Dodds. I'll wait until confirmed.
A. Of course he should. Whether it was GTFC, John Fenty or as deputy leader of NE Lincs Council, he should have known who he was dealing with. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 13, 2020, 9:00pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
A) N/A if not related to GTFC, who Fenty deals in his personal business life is up to him.
B) Yes your right, but my next door neighbour shouldn't be have her whole family around in her house for a party either, plenty of people out there breaking the rules.
C) Again just speculation it was Dodds. I'll wait until confirmed.
A Thats okay then. B Thats okay then. C Nothing to see here, move along |
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 9:04pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Even if this is purely a personal business thing Fenty should’ve known the issues it would cause.
We’re not just talking about the owner of a football club are we? Locally we’re talking about the deputy leader of the council, a man who has clearly got political aspirations. Has his own arrogance been his down fall again?
This, even if it is legit, cannot help Fenty in anyway shape or form.
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 13, 2020, 9:12pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
At the risk of being called a racist, why is Kapikanya still in the country? let alone being allowed to be a Director of any company.
How the intercourse wasn't he deported the day he walked from Prison??
|
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| GrimRob |
| December 13, 2020, 9:29pm |
|
Moderator
Posts: 12,672
Posts Per Day: 2.12
Reputation: 69.92%
Rep Score: +76 / -34
Approval: +13,403
Gold Stars: 113
|
At the risk of being called a racist, why is Kapikanya still in the country? let alone being allowed to be a Director of any company.
How the intercourse wasn't he deported the day he walked from Prison??
He's British I presume, just born in another country |
| 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
~ Alfred Lord Tennyson
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Poojah |
| December 13, 2020, 9:38pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,195
Posts Per Day: 1.24
Reputation: 86.63%
Rep Score: +76 / -11
Approval: +29,472
Gold Stars: 1,500
|
I've been pondering this one all day. So many unknowns, so many questions to be answered. I'll hold off getting too emotional or tearing into anyone until we know some more of the facts, however a few things do appear to be relatively clear at least.
The first is that May's interest certainly appears to be in the club in some way, shape or form. His links to Colin Dodd and Blundell Park Project Limited are clear, and he'd hardly have been at the match yesterday on some kind of corporate entertainment gig in the present circumstances. Of course, he shouldn't have been there anyway.
It seems obvious to me that you don't do business of any kind with someone convicted of such a despicable crime. A scam which deliberately targeted vulnerable people at a particularly vulnerable time in their lives. From a moral standpoint it's not the kind of person you affiliate with, but more so than that how on earth are you supposed to trust someone capable of doing something like that? You can't, and for that reason alone it should be a non-starter.
The arguments about second chances don't wash with me. KingstonMariner very eloquently dealt with this earlier - second chances have to be contextual. If I get convicted (and jailed) for fraud on an industrial scale then I can expect my opportunites in the business world to be limited thereafter. I can't remember if it was Confucius that said it or some other luminary, but "you lose trust, Matt".
I note that John Fenty is yet to have his say, which in itself is odd for someone usually very quick to defend himself when his character is called into question. Is it possible that he was unaware of this character's background? Name change or not, I find that highly unlikely, since a quick Google of 'Alex May' reveals a number of articles relating to his involvement in the attempted buyout of Notts County, in which it is referenced that he disclosed of his conviction at the very outset of discussions.
I'm puzzled tonight. What interest does this man purport to have in Grimsby Town FC? What is his actual interest? Why would John Fenty entertain someone with such an abhorrent background? Given that this relationship had to come to light at some point, what kind of reaction did he expect? They are big questions, and we need answers.
Let me finish by saying this. This will be a seminal week in the history of this football club.
|
| A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 9:42pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
I've been pondering this one all day. So many unknowns, so many questions to be answered. I'll hold off getting too emotional or tearing into anyone until we know some more of the facts, however a few things do appear to be relatively clear at least.
The first is that May's interest certainly appears to be in the club in some way, shape or form. His links to Colin Dodd and Blundell Park Project Limited are clear, and he'd hardly have been at the match yesterday on some kind of corporate entertainment gig in the present circumstances. Of course, he shouldn't have been there anyway.
It seems obvious to me that you don't do business of any kind with someone convicted of such a despicable crime. A scam which deliberately targeted vulnerable people at a particularly vulnerable time in their lives. From a moral standpoint it's not the kind of person you affiliate with, but more so than that how on earth are you supposed to trust someone capable of doing something like that? You can't, and for that reason alone it should be a non-starter.
The arguments about second chances don't wash with me. KingstonMariner very eloquently dealt with this earlier - second chances have to be contextual. If I get convicted (and jailed) for fraud on an industrial scale then I can expect my opportunites in the business world to be limited thereafter. I can't remember if it was Confucius that said it or some other luminary, but "you lose trust, Matt".
I note that John Fenty is yet to have his say, which in itself is odd for someone usually very quick to defend himself when his character is called into question. Is it possible that he was unaware of this character's background? Name change or not, I find that highly unlikely, since a quick Google of 'Alex May' reveals a number of articles relating to his involvement in the attempted buyout of Notts County, in which it is referenced that he disclosed of his conviction at the very outset of discussions.
I'm puzzled tonight. What interest does this man purport to have in Grimsby Town FC? What is his actual interest? Why would John Fenty entertain someone with such an abhorrent background? Given that this relationship had to come to light at some point, what kind of reaction did he expect? They are big questions, and we need answers.
Let me finish by saying this. This will be a seminal week in the history of this football club.
See honest John’s statement...it really, erm clears up...nothing... |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Poojah |
| December 13, 2020, 9:54pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,195
Posts Per Day: 1.24
Reputation: 86.63%
Rep Score: +76 / -11
Approval: +29,472
Gold Stars: 1,500
|
See honest John’s statement...it really, erm clears up...nothing...
Indeed, evidently released as I was posting (I don't write really slow like, daughter woke up half way through!). The subtext of the statement says more than the statement itself. The fact that he fails to refute any potential involvement of Alex May in the club or address the crime of which he has been convicted is tacit confirmation that something is indeed going on. It is the statement of a rattled man. A man who doesn't know what to say. Mark my words, a seminal week ahead. |
| A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. |
|
|
|
|
|
| wuffing |
| December 13, 2020, 9:55pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 829
Posts Per Day: 0.41
Reputation: 83.38%
Rep Score: +7 / -1
Approval: +835
Gold Stars: 38
|
May I sum up: 😂😭🤔👀🙄😩🤯😱😫😵🤭😳🤑🤪🤢🤮🥴😵🤕💔
|
|
'I walked in the dressing room. The window was open and I thought that a sea fret had got in. Then I saw smoke billowing from a pipe in the corner of the room...it was my centre-forward. He looked seven stone wet through. He went on to score thirty-odd goals that season.' Lawrie McMenemy on encountering the legend that was Matt Tees.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 10:10pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Indeed, evidently released as I was posting (I don't write really slow like, daughter woke up half way through!).
The subtext of the statement says more than the statement itself. The fact that he fails to refute any potential involvement of Alex May in the club or address the crime of which he has been convicted is tacit confirmation that something is indeed going on.
It is the statement of a rattled man. A man who doesn't know what to say. Mark my words, a seminal week ahead.
Agreed, the statement clears up nothing. It addresses nothing and is a poke in the eye for both GTFC fans and the voting public. I agree it’s a seminal week but my fear is that by Wednesday, with a potential win at Southend under our belts this may drift away. |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 13, 2020, 10:12pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
Agreed, the statement clears up nothing. It addresses nothing and is a poke in the eye for both GTFC fans and the voting public.
I agree it’s a seminal week but my fear is that by Wednesday, with a potential win at Southend under our belts this may drift away.
Then it's up to the fan base to make sure it doesn't. I think the majority are fed up with him and his bullsh1t. We need to actually do something collectively, even if that's just to collectively agree to not spend a penny more at the club whilst the board remains. Ultimately, you get the board you deserve and we've been too passive for far too long. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Poojah |
| December 13, 2020, 10:21pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,195
Posts Per Day: 1.24
Reputation: 86.63%
Rep Score: +76 / -11
Approval: +29,472
Gold Stars: 1,500
|
Agreed, the statement clears up nothing. It addresses nothing and is a poke in the eye for both GTFC fans and the voting public.
I agree it’s a seminal week but my fear is that by Wednesday, with a potential win at Southend under our belts this may drift away.
My prediction: we don't win at Southend and this doesn't go away. Things will get worse before they get better. But they will get better. |
| A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. |
|
|
|
|
|
| TAGG |
| December 13, 2020, 10:26pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,138
Posts Per Day: 0.93
Reputation: 53.6%
Rep Score: +26 / -27
Approval: +2,962
Gold Stars: 124
|
When do ye think Fenty will be shutting down the Fishy again??
|
| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD |
|
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 13, 2020, 10:30pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
My prediction: we don't win at Southend and this doesn't go away. Things will get worse before they get better. But they will get better.
In a perverse way a defeat at Southend wouldn’t be the worst thing and could be a catalyst, as you say, it often has to get worse to get better. A defeat may finally see the fans unite; the one thing that has always terrified Fenty, and this time he can’t do his usual and sack a manager to solve the problem...he is the problem. |
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| Poojah |
| December 13, 2020, 10:31pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 7,195
Posts Per Day: 1.24
Reputation: 86.63%
Rep Score: +76 / -11
Approval: +29,472
Gold Stars: 1,500
|
In a perverse way a defeat at Southend wouldn’t be the worst thing and could be a catalyst, as you say, it often has to get worse to get better.
A defeat may finally see the fans unite; the one thing that has always terrified Fenty, and this time he can’t do his usual and sack a manager to solve the problem...he is the problem.
Nail on head. |
| A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. |
|
|
|
|
|
| EY Mariner |
| December 13, 2020, 10:34pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 849
Posts Per Day: 0.14
Reputation: 80.9%
Rep Score: +9 / -2
Approval: +865
Gold Stars: 5
|
What is most striking about Mr Fenty's statement tonight, or at least the quotes that the Telegraph have reported so far, is the clear emphasis on the potential political fallout of the revelations with no reference to the football club. Given that, I don't think supporters could be remotely blamed for drawing the kind of conclusions that Poojah outlines. I'm sure Mr Fenty's political opponents will not let that side of the matter rest but, for now at least, I think the onus is on the club, and indeed on Mr May himself, to explain themselves.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| louth_in_the_south |
| December 13, 2020, 10:35pm |
|
Exile Posts: 4,106
Posts Per Day: 0.69
Reputation: 70%
Rep Score: +25 / -12
Location: Forest Row
Approval: +5,672
Gold Stars: 94
|
Hence his illuminating statement tonight ......
|
| Lower F5 |
|
|
|
|
|
| Garth |
| December 13, 2020, 11:03pm |
|
Season Ticket Holder Posts: 11,493
Posts Per Day: 1.92
Reputation: 80.75%
Rep Score: +55 / -13
Approval: +4,921
Gold Stars: 26
|
I think this is the thin edge of a short wedge, and will be the situation that will prise JF and GTFC apart very shortly, resulting in a new board with the same manager
|
|
|
|
|
|
| KingstonMariner |
| December 13, 2020, 11:07pm |
|
Meths Drinker Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.07
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
I think this is the thin edge of a short wedge, and will be the situation that will prise JF and GTFC apart very shortly, resulting in a new board with the same manager
That’s a nice thought to go to bed on. Night! |
| Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Iknowyoursecret |
| December 14, 2020, 1:27am |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 120
Posts Per Day: 0.08
Reputation: 60.18%
Rep Score: +0 / -3
Approval: -34
Gold Stars: 2
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Quagmire |
| December 14, 2020, 9:04am |
|
 Table Wine Drinker Posts: 781
Posts Per Day: 0.13
Reputation: 93.41%
Rep Score: +19 / 0
Approval: +926
Gold Stars: 43
|
As much as I want Fenty out I'm now not sure this will have the impact that most of us want.
We know the man has skin thicker than a rhino's backside.
At the end of the day this is just going to tarnish his reputation a bit more, but ultimately he'll just try to sit it out and wait for the storm to subside - there's been dozens of times where people have thought that this is the time he has to go, but every time he has simply waited out the anger on social media and here, and then simply carried on where he left off.
He hasn't committed an illegal act. He's stated simple facts in his 'statement' and he'll come out with some rubbish that he made a mistake not updating this record of interests or whatever it is. He'll say everyone deserves a second chance, and that when this guys history came up he immediately resigned from a company that has yet to even trade.
I don't think it changes a great deal. He certainly won't fall on his sword over this, his ego won't let him.
I'm hopeful though that two good things could from it.
Firstly that May & Dodd will have to walk away from any investment/takeover talks.
Secondly that any fans who were somehow on the fence over JF see the light and the vast majority of the fan base mobilise to bring about change.
I'm hoping that it might re-open the door for Shutes and co.
Here's another name (not sure if he was mentioned with the initial Shutes bid?) - Jason Stockwood - CEO of Simply Business, twice recognised by The Sunday Times as the UK’s best company to work for, and he was named as ‘Best Leader’ in the UK in 2016 - and more importantly (to quote his Twitter profile), Forever - GTFC.
Can you imagine what someone like this guy could bring to the table?
Fenty will not fall on his sword over this. The fans have to force the issue.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Iknowyoursecret |
| December 14, 2020, 10:06am |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 120
Posts Per Day: 0.08
Reputation: 60.18%
Rep Score: +0 / -3
Approval: -34
Gold Stars: 2
|
But it’s not the only company he’s involved in is it
There’s a computer company (that provides computers and the score board at blundell park .
A kitchen company that has changed names on many occasions Expressions run by Paul Fenty no liquidated now it’s prestige auctions
Eco control can’t miss it down Cleethorpes road as His companies are all in a row together waiting I suppose for the council regelation project money to enhance the buildings.Isn’t he in charge of regeneration.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 14, 2020, 10:17am |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
As much as I want Fenty out I'm now not sure this will have the impact that most of us want.
We know the man has skin thicker than a rhino's backside.
At the end of the day this is just going to tarnish his reputation a bit more, but ultimately he'll just try to sit it out and wait for the storm to subside - there's been dozens of times where people have thought that this is the time he has to go, but every time he has simply waited out the anger on social media and here, and then simply carried on where he left off.
He hasn't committed an illegal act. He's stated simple facts in his 'statement' and he'll come out with some rubbish that he made a mistake not updating this record of interests or whatever it is. He'll say everyone deserves a second chance, and that when this guys history came up he immediately resigned from a company that has yet to even trade.
I don't think it changes a great deal. He certainly won't fall on his sword over this, his ego won't let him.
I'm hopeful though that two good things could from it.
Firstly that May & Dodd will have to walk away from any investment/takeover talks.
Secondly that any fans who were somehow on the fence over JF see the light and the vast majority of the fan base mobilise to bring about change.
I'm hoping that it might re-open the door for Shutes and co.
Here's another name (not sure if he was mentioned with the initial Shutes bid?) - Jason Stockwood - CEO of Simply Business, twice recognised by The Sunday Times as the UK’s best company to work for, and he was named as ‘Best Leader’ in the UK in 2016 - and more importantly (to quote his Twitter profile), Forever - GTFC.
Can you imagine what someone like this guy could bring to the table?
Fenty will not fall on his sword over this. The fans have to force the issue.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/stunning-images-grimsbys-new-youth-4158845 |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Ipswin |
| December 14, 2020, 10:20am |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,592
Posts Per Day: 1.10
Reputation: 51.24%
Rep Score: +44 / -47
Approval: -3,552
Gold Stars: 89
|
Perhaps Lloyd Griffith will cough up and buy him out
|
| |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| Quagmire |
| December 14, 2020, 10:23am |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 781
Posts Per Day: 0.13
Reputation: 93.41%
Rep Score: +19 / 0
Approval: +926
Gold Stars: 43
|
Thanks OC |
|
|
|
|
|
| pizzzza |
| December 14, 2020, 10:30am |
|
Pontoonite Posts: 5,662
Posts Per Day: 1.06
Reputation: 69.75%
Rep Score: +20 / -10
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +6,701
Gold Stars: 137
|
Looks great! Regeneration, creating jobs, what's not to like? If Shutes and Stockwood genuinely want to get involved with the club and Fenty will not step aside then it is an absolute f-ing travesty. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| mariner91 |
| December 14, 2020, 12:24pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 15,505
Posts Per Day: 2.64
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +78 / -11
Location: Lincs
Approval: +19,625
Gold Stars: 260
|
Looks great! Regeneration, creating jobs, what's not to like?
If Shutes and Stockwood genuinely want to get involved with the club and Fenty will not step aside then it is an absolute f-ing travesty.
Because he doesn’t care about the club, only himself. |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 14, 2020, 12:33pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| heppy88 |
| December 14, 2020, 12:39pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 867
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Approval: +3,079
Gold Stars: 40
|
So May admits he's been friends with Fenty for 2 years (that was only 4 years after he fraudulently took money from the elderly).
He admits he has been to see various councilers (No wonder they are keeping stum!!)
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 14, 2020, 12:55pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
So May admits he's been friends with Fenty for 2 years (that was only 4 years after he fraudulently took money from the elderly).
He admits he has been to see various councilers (No wonder they are keeping stum!!)
About the time the regeneration money was announced. |
|
|
|
|
|
| jamesgtfc |
| December 14, 2020, 2:39pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 6,038
Posts Per Day: 1.16
Reputation: 79.95%
Rep Score: +20 / -5
Approval: +12,955
Gold Stars: 190
|
But it’s not the only company he’s involved in is it
There’s a computer company (that provides computers and the score board at blundell park .
A kitchen company that has changed names on many occasions Expressions run by Paul Fenty no liquidated now it’s prestige auctions
Eco control can’t miss it down Cleethorpes road as His companies are all in a row together waiting I suppose for the council regelation project money to enhance the buildings.Isn’t he in charge of regeneration.
Cool Energy on Cleethorpes Road is owned by Fenty too. The club recently spent £85k having work done by Cool Energy. If the board have anything about them they will be telling Fenty to resign immediately at the board meeting today. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rodley Mariner |
| December 14, 2020, 2:51pm |
|
|
Posts: 7,807
Posts Per Day: 1.36
Reputation: 78.86%
Rep Score: +63 / -17
Location: Farsley, Leeds
Approval: +13,239
Gold Stars: 176
|
Do we know what was done for 85k? Seems a big investment at the moment particularly as the fans had raised about that amount to support thw club through this period.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Mallyner |
| December 14, 2020, 2:59pm |
|
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,788
Posts Per Day: 0.60
Reputation: 80.9%
Rep Score: +9 / -2
Location: New Waltham
Approval: +2,515
Gold Stars: 23
|
I'm sorry if this is on another post. On this website; https://www.thebusinessdesk.co.....nt-after-fans-revolt“On Saturday I was invited to Blundell Park John Fenty.” May said he has no interest in buying in club, but that he “wanted to buy small amount of shares and help relocation of the club.” He also confirmed he has been three times to Blundell Park in recent weeks. He added: “There has been a clear message over the weekend that fans are unhappy. The club belongs to fans – so any investment is now off the table. |
| Supporting Town for 65 years. |
|
|
|
|
|
| SomeSanity |
| December 14, 2020, 3:00pm |
|
Lager Top Drinker Posts: 234
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 81.78%
Rep Score: +1 / 0
Approval: +855
Gold Stars: 1
|
Do we know what was done for 85k? Seems a big investment at the moment particularly as the fans had raised about that amount to support thw club through this period.
And with relocation seen to be of the highest importance, 85k on outdated infrastructure seems a bit much. |
|
|
|
|
|
| heppy88 |
| December 14, 2020, 3:00pm |
|
Table Wine Drinker Posts: 867
Posts Per Day: 0.26
Reputation: 90.8%
Rep Score: +11 / 0
Approval: +3,079
Gold Stars: 40
|
Cool Energy on Cleethorpes Road is owned by Fenty too. The club recently spent £85k having work done by Cool Energy.
If the board have anything about them they will be telling Fenty to resign immediately at the board meeting today.
I wonder who will get the contract to supply the heating for any new stadium and other regedneration projects? New YMCA? |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 14, 2020, 3:03pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
Question. Why, when we have retired senior partners of the accountancy & legal professions on the board, are we in this mess?
Surely their professional integrity should have prevented this once they knew of May/Kapikanya's past?
|
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| MNH1972 |
| December 14, 2020, 3:24pm |
|
Shandy Drinker Posts: 73
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +215
Gold Stars: 5
|
Do we know what was done for 85k? Seems a big investment at the moment particularly as the fans had raised about that amount to support thw club through this period.
How to get some of your money back without reducing the money the club owe you. What a horrible person you are John |
|
|
|
|
|
| MarinerDevil |
| December 14, 2020, 4:01pm |
|
Fine Wine Drinker Posts: 1,030
Posts Per Day: 0.38
Reputation: 81.19%
Rep Score: +5 / -1
Approval: +2,737
Gold Stars: 80
|
I'd like to hear more about this £85k paid to Fenty's green energy project. Anyone got a source?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| lew chaterleys lover |
| December 14, 2020, 4:09pm |
|
Vodka Drinker Posts: 5,005
Posts Per Day: 1.07
Reputation: 75.9%
Rep Score: +30 / -10
Approval: +10,716
Gold Stars: 236
|
Question. Why, when we have retired senior partners of the accountancy & legal professions on the board, are we in this mess?
Surely their professional integrity should have prevented this once they knew of May/Kapikanya's past?
I know you know the answer to this, but let's say it anyway! There is only one man who matters at GTFC. Everybody else is irrelevant. You cannot speak out because he runs the show from top to bottom otherwise we would have seen dissent many times over 15 or more disastrous, wasted years with us stuck in the football wilderness. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| aldi_01 |
| December 14, 2020, 4:09pm |
|
|
Posts: 12,008
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 73.73%
Rep Score: +54 / -20
Approval: +5,679
Gold Stars: 473
|
Didn’t one of the Trust’s board members clear this up on Twitter...it was for some heating in the Main Stand I believe and the challenge was whether or not a proper rendering process was followed.
It was seen as a good deal because it saved the club cash, some good barrow job that...
|
| 'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza |
|
|
|
|
|
| friskneymariner |
| December 14, 2020, 4:14pm |
|
|
Posts: 2,496
Posts Per Day: 0.56
Reputation: 79.23%
Rep Score: +15 / -4
Location: friskney
Approval: +4,159
Gold Stars: 38
|
Somebody obviously inside the club tipped off the Telegraph he was attending on Saturday,someone not happy with the situation wonder who that could be.
|
| Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer. |
|
|
|
|
|
| MuddyWaters |
| December 14, 2020, 4:16pm |
|
Barley Wine Drinker Posts: 14,107
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +32,234
Gold Stars: 235
|
I know you know the answer to this, but let's say it anyway! There is only one man who matters at GTFC. Everybody else is irrelevant. You cannot speak out because he runs the show from top to bottom otherwise we would have seen dissent many times over 15 or more disastrous, wasted years with us stuck in the football wilderness.
It’s a clever trick, getting revered professionals tarred with the same brush. |
|
| Logged |
|
|
|
|
| ginnywings |
| December 14, 2020, 4:59pm |
|
Recovering Alcoholic Posts: 28,143
Posts Per Day: 5.03
Reputation: 73.79%
Rep Score: +88 / -32
Approval: +56,108
Gold Stars: 548
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Squinter |
| December 14, 2020, 6:20pm |
|
Beer Drinker Posts: 181
Posts Per Day: 0.05
Reputation: 86.91%
Rep Score: +5 / 0
Approval: +587
Gold Stars: 9
|
31 pages on this thread and we don't know any facts yet. Although I don't want this guy anywhere near the club, I would like questions answered first before making judgement :-
A) Did Fenty know of his previous convictions ? There is a big reason why he canged his name.
B) Is his reason being here related to GTFC or something else ?
C) If it is GTFC related, he probably hasn't got enough money himself, so who is he representing ? I doubt it, but it could be somebody reputable ( maybe he's best mates with a Hollywood film star )
Well today has certainly answered all my questions. Seems to be yes to all. As much as I appreciate that JF has financially kept the club affloat and run it sustainably, I now can not defend him in anyway at all. This is all going to get very messy, the only thing I ask of JF now is, please don't spit your dummy out over your own mistake and do not send the club in administration. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Supersixty |
| December 14, 2020, 7:09pm |
|
Coke Drinker Posts: 37
Posts Per Day: 0.01
Reputation: 83.41%
Rep Score: +2 / 0
Approval: +33
|
85k was for the main stand bogs and stuff, a FA grant was available, the quotes came in at about 100k so fent decided to do it himself and trowser it
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Site Home
News
Football
Season
Database
Club
POM
Contact
Home
Calendar
Search
Register
Login
MuddyWaters
LezpV0rBMZDtQRITQ~~_35.JPG)
Logged
WLLW - ended
