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I really fear that as a result of his poor recruitment, we’re in a relegation dogfight. Whether it’s his fault or not, I’m not convinced that he’s the man who can save us from relegation so I voted Holloway out.
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November 21, 2020, 10:31pm |
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As an experienced manager with (apparently) a lot of contacts, surely, even with our penny pinching and need for Covid contracts he could see that some do the lads he was bringing in weren’t good enough.
In the end our recruitment became erratic and the season has panned out that way so far. Quantity over quality sadly...
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As an experienced manager with (apparently) a lot of contacts, surely, even with our penny pinching and need for Covid contracts he could see that some do the lads he was bringing in weren’t good enough.
In the end our recruitment became erratic and the season has panned out that way so far. Quantity over quality sadly...
That is making a very big assumption that these players were his primary targets. I suspect they were well down his list and only signed when better players refused to come. Holloway would not want to admit this because it would have discouraged other possible signings for one thing and because it would make the club look bad for another. He is in much the same boat as Alan Buckley Mk3 in his efforts to attract quality.
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denni266 |
November 21, 2020, 11:29pm |
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I voted to stay even tho i said different earlier . Bit of a knee jerk reaction am afraid, but also in the clear light of day we cannot carry on as we are , so i think we should wait untill after the jan window to see how he goes on .If no better then yes he should go
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Tommy |
November 21, 2020, 11:32pm |
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It's a daft discussion to even be having IMO. The answer to having a bit of a bad run isn't always to just change the manager.
I suspect we have quite a low budget this season. There's also the Covid clauses we're putting in contracts which also can't help attracting players as I doubt all clubs are doing this. In addition to this, I'd hazard a (logical) guess that 3 players signed by Jolley would be amongst our top earners - Ohman, Green and Hanson - further limiting any wriggle-room in the budget. Especially when of those 3 players, one isn't first choice and is very hit and miss, one makes a difference to us but can't fit this season and the other is just nowhere near good enough.
There's the farcical situation where we allowed Vernam to leave for nothing in the summer and then the decision (I presume also at board level) to get everyone back for pre-season much later it seems than every other club. Was that done to save a few extra pennies leaving all the players and coaching staff on furlough for a bit longer? I can't imagine Holloway wanted to start pre-season so late and have so few pre-season games.
He got un-necessarily spiky with JT in his interview post-match today but aside from that he was honest about today, about where we are as a team, and in taking personal responsibility. I can't question is passion/desire to turn it around.
The recruitment has been mixed. But then it is for any Manager, even the very best at the highest level. And it usually takes several windows to keep tweaking and trying to improve or correct short-comings or disappointing signings. I've seen posts on other threads recently saying Hurst was great at spotting a player, but he brought some of the worst players I've ever seen too.
Holloway's a good Manager, is already going about making changes, and fully deserves to keep working and get us on the right track.
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November 21, 2020, 11:42pm |
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November 22, 2020, 12:35am |
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Holloway stay...
I’d have to think harder if it was about Fenty though...
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November 22, 2020, 12:55am |
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Holloway stay...
I’d have to think harder if it was about Fenty though...
I agree with your first line. I wouldn’t have to think hard about the second though.
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November 22, 2020, 1:17am |
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Voted stay.
But ffs some basic stuff needs sorting: Stop playing Clifton as wing back and full back to accommodate bloody Taylor or Morton or whoever being in CM. We are poor in that area anyway and we desperately need his energy there. We can't play in a way that requires Macca to be playing it with his feet, he really isn't up to it and this will cost us far more in siĺly goals given away (like today) than whatever slight advantage it is imagined it will give us. Either change how we play or bite the bullet and you have to change the keeper to one who can do that. No surprise that Macca is having his worst season in the football league as he is being asked to do what he can't and instead of being a strength he is an Achilles heel. Some sort of consistency with formation please. Scout opposition teams properly/management team to actually watch teams on videobefore the game, so that we are at least as well prepared as humberside radios co commentator in knowing what formation they play...
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November 22, 2020, 1:38am |
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Apart from his kicking which is very poor he is letting goals he would have saved last season.
He is having a shocking season.
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