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November 21, 2020, 8:09am |
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No, he was a decent manager who kept things simple. But he burned his bridges by having a go at fans who spent thousands following Town all over the country. We travelled in huge numbers, often outnumbering the home fans in that league and made incredible noise.
Despite that financial and emotional investment, he cupped his ears at us, often criticised us and I never took to him. He did okay for us though, no more than that. Town at that level is completely unacceptable and we never really challenged for the league.
I accept he was hamstrung by the same board we've had for 15 years, it isn't all a coinsidence we are a shambles, and it isn't a coinsidence he was desperate to take at best a sidestep to a smaller club just to get out of here.
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aldi_01 |
November 21, 2020, 8:39am |
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No, he was a decent manager who kept things simple. But he burned his bridges by having a go at fans who spent thousands following Town all over the country. We travelled in huge numbers, often outnumbering the home fans in that league and made incredible noise.
Despite that financial and emotional investment, he cupped his ears at us, often criticised us and I never took to him. He did okay for us though, no more than that. Town at that level is completely unacceptable and we never really challenged for the league.
I accept he was hamstrung by the same board we've had for 15 years, it isn't all a coinsidence we are a shambles, and it isn't a coinsidence he was desperate to take at best a sidestep to a smaller club just to get out of here.
I think the last paragraph here is the wider discussion point. It has become clear that the contracts offered once returning to the league were not perhaps what people expected. PH has alluded to this since, that meant players who were obviously good enough left. PH recruited players he thought could do a job in his side, under his leadership and to some extent, that was working. Without him some of those players were never the same. He likely did move sideways but to a club higher up the pyramid so that probably says a lot. We put up very little effort to keep him, the man, other than Buckley to get us promoted in recent times. I get he didn’t blow smoke up fans arses and told some a few home truths they didn’t like. The ear cupping was flipping hilarious in all honesty. It was clear that breakdown in relations between PH and the board was the reason for his eventual departure, sad really, he is the manager to genuinely build a team that played for each other and that fans felt connected with. Would I have him back? Not sure, football fans are obsessed with returning to old favourites, on occasions it works but probably best to leave it be and move on. We’ve got bigger issues to worry about...
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golfer |
November 21, 2020, 8:50am |
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Not a bad manager but wouldn't accept criticism - too pig headed. Not the best but not the worst manager we've had
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TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
November 21, 2020, 2:39pm |
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If he came back next week it would put hundreds on the gate.
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davmariner |
November 21, 2020, 4:52pm |
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Bring back Hurst. This is going to be a relegation battle and he’ll steady the ship and keep us up.
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Sir Matt Tease |
November 21, 2020, 5:00pm |
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Croxton |
November 21, 2020, 5:41pm |
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Humbercod |
November 21, 2020, 5:44pm |
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No thought he was bigger than the club, would rather have Rob Scott.
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Ipswin |
November 21, 2020, 6:46pm |
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After today I'd have Mike Newell back at least he'd have the excuse that they were all drunk
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