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Hurst had to endure disgusting abuse away at halifax- amongst the worst ive seen at a football match and flipping idiot sticking hurst out over the flyover before the 2nd leg of a play off. Cup his ear all he likes for me
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Look at where those clubs are now:
Kidderminster - National League North Gateshead - National League North Barnet - National League Braintree - National League South
It is the toughest league to get out of. Consistently getting us in the play offs was a great achievement as large portions of the team were rebuilt year on year.
We weren't doing too bad when he left either. What followed has been an absolute car crash. Turning over players like you wouldn't believe. Before lockdown the signs were there that Holloway was going to build something. Without the current situation I'm sure our team would look a lot different right now but it is frustrating.
Last night we put out a team filled with players that you would expect will play a decent number of games for us this season and lost 2-0 to Hull City Reserves.
Thank you for proving my point which was about Paul Hurst. He couldn't get us above them in those seasons and we were lucky to get past Braintree. .
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After Scott, it took him an age to get us promoted. He had one good season at Shrewsbury and that’s it.
Tactically inept useless substitutions. What sort of side he would put together now I shudder to think but he would soon be sulking and moaning about budgets.
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jamesgtfc |
November 18, 2020, 1:30pm |
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After Scott, it took him an age to get us promoted. He had one good season at Shrewsbury and that’s it.
Tactically inept useless substitutions. What sort of side he would put together now I shudder to think but he would soon be sulking and moaning about budgets.
He had a good full season at Shrewsbury plus worked an absolute miracle when he took over part way through.
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Ipswin |
November 18, 2020, 1:35pm |
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After Scott, it took him an age to get us promoted. He had one good season at Shrewsbury and that’s it.
Tactically inept useless substitutions. What sort of side he would put together now I shudder to think but he would soon be sulking and moaning about budgets.
He was a nightmare when he did have a budget - ask the Ipswich fans
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diehardmariner |
November 18, 2020, 1:45pm |
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We're all quick to claim we only got promoted because some Braintree defender lost his damn mind. No one remembers how the much-forgotten Marcus Marshall came on and changed things. Does Hurst ever get the credit for making that sub, or for the 70+ points he earned that got us into that position?
As impressive as Marshall was that game when he came on, it was a moment of madness that let us back into that game. Marshall came on 2 minutes before the Braintree defender lost his head. Yes, Marshall gave an attacking impetus we lacked, but without that penalty gifted to us....we were fifteen minutes away from going out. For as much as that second leg is in modern folklore, the first leg was an absolute dreadful display following two equally flat and limp displays to close the season proper out. Having fallen behind in that first leg, Hurst made two substitutions. Bogle off for Hoban. Arnold off for East. Jon-Paul Pittman sat unused on the bench. I stand to be corrected but Marshall only came into the first team squad when Monkhouse picked up his injury at the back end of the season didn't he? I stand by the point that Monkhouse's injury was the main reason we went up in the end. With all that attacking ability, best part of 60 goals between your two front men, a player with the capability of Jon Nolan in your midfield and the talent of Nathan Arnold on your wing and it takes an injury to a 35-year-old winger (who's next port of call was a side that just avoided relegation from the Conference North) to stumble upon a system that worked.
Do enough of us think back to the time we went to Luton (in 16/17) and played great football, won 2-1, and everyone was happy? Didn't we beat Stevenage 5-2 around then too?
Great victories and great performances, but for me it only highlights what we could do but he always had the shackles on the team. Same as the points you make below about the Gateshead and Alfreton back-to-back fixtures. Hurst was great at spotting talent and bringing it to the club, he just never got the best out of them for me.
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Boris Johnson |
November 18, 2020, 1:51pm |
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In terms of rapport with the Fans, Hurst was a disgrace, deserved everything he got.
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He had a good full season at Shrewsbury plus worked an absolute miracle when he took over part way through.
He had a decent budget to bring in players he knew who were decent at that level.and enough time to stave off relegation. As for his full season a lot of Shrews fans wondered why a side trotting away with a promotion spot and some decent wins suddenly started to play like they were threatened with relegation two thirds of the way through the season and playing for draws. Eventually just managed the play offs but there seemed a lot more to it than that as Hurst was already negotiating with Ipswich. Don’t trust him and don’t rate him.
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ginnywings |
November 18, 2020, 2:42pm |
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Not for me. Hated his dour tactics and pointless substitutions on 70 mins. The only time it seemed to work was with the aforementioned Marcus Marshall, and he should have been on sooner, as we were making no headway whatsoever until he came on.
I'm amazed really that with all the experience Town fans have of the fact that changing managers doesn't cure anything, they still start calling for change if we aren't tearing up the league after a dozen games. The one thing the Hurst appointment showed us was that stability has more chance of paying off than constantly changing personnel.
Ollie is trying to change the ethos around the place with developing young players and a way of playing right through the age groups. He's made a massive commitment, personally and financially to our club, yet the usual suspects are calling for his head already. I don't think he's going anywhere, and neither should he.
Have some patience, and if we are still floundering at the wrong end of the table come Feb, then yeah, have a chunter then.
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People say the conference is the hardest league to get out off mainly because only 2 are promoted, but in the years back in division 4 we have not even made a playoff place, and that goes down to seventh, whereas in the conference apart from the first season we made the playoffs every year. So was that Hurst being successful or were we a big fish in a little pond, whereas now we are a middling fish in a bigger pond.
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