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Quoted from Manchester Mariner

My mother in law is from Liverpool and the amount of agro and family fall outs due to Catholics marrying out of their denominations is crazy. Granted it would've been 'Old Liverpool' as my MIL calls it and things have probably changed but the stories of fights at weddings and non-Catholics being banned from their own siblings funerals were pretty virulent.

Got nothing to do with the FA chairman fallout really but mentions of scouse catholics always remind me of her mental secretarian stories.

On the other hand such casual anti-semitism is very relevant to the matter of language.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

On the other hand such casual anti-semitism is very relevant to the matter of language.

I cannot see any anti semetism in this post maybe you can point it out for me, it seems much more anti catholic to me

Quoted from Sandford1981

Perhaps Ipswin could ask his neighbour for his opinion?

I don't speak to the bloke - he's a foreigner  

Quoted from codcheeky

I cannot see any anti semetism in this post maybe you can point it out for me, it seems much more anti catholic to me

He is replying to my post which does show some ant-semitism.

Quoted from Ipswin

I don't speak to the bloke - he's a foreigner  

Touché

Both my sons have Iranian partners. They have in laws called Mohammed, Fuzi and Baal. All are high functioning professionals in 'The North'. In the 12 years I have known them, I have met many of their wider family at weddings, funerals and celebrations such as Diwali. The issue of 'racial definition' has never been discussed apart from in the choice of names for my four grandchildren. I'm not saying there have been no issues for everyone I have met but the general level of career and societal success would indicate a good measure of integration for the well educated. It has never occurred to me that these lovely folk ,or my grandkids, are 'people of colour'.

It seems to me that descriptors for 'non white British' are more problematic for poorer, less well educated groups who feel marginalised culturally and economically.  If my sons had been manual workers, say and found partners from communities in the East of Sheffield, then I imagine ethnic and cultural differences may have been more difficult to negotiate. 'Class' and economic success make words like 'black' 'Asian' and 'multi ethnic' almost redundant for some and only discussed when used by politicians.

Andy George, President of the National Black Police Association, makes the point that PC moves to ban the  phrase 'black coffee' are harmful to the BAME communities. Improving economic prospects and increasing opportunities will have far greater effects.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne.....ities-senior-police/

Quoted from Ipswin

I don't speak to the bloke - he's a foreigner  

I must confez, I can’t picture you Rabatting on with your Moroccan neighbour over the garden fence

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I must confez, I can’t picture you Rabatting on with your Moroccan neighbour over the garden fence

Saw what you did there!  

He does do a very interesting roll up ciggie which we enjoy together in the garden in Summer

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Read this thread and again and tell me it's the anti-racists who are getting wound up......

If something is wrong or accuses you of something your not your going to fight it. Thats why things improve .If not things stay the same and evil flourishes. For instance if someone calls you a thief or a wife beater and youve never stole or  laid a finger on someone or beat her up. Smear campaigns that are designed to wound someone. The irony of it is the people dishing out the abuse are on the same continuum as the racists .Giving out negative energy which harms us all. Whatever you do in this world has some kind of karma for better or worse but ultimately  its the good path that always wins out in the long run.

Like previously stated we all need to work in harmony with each other and nature as well as we are all fundamentally connected to that singular energy source that started everything.

Period