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codcheeky
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I don't think that this thread is about party politics, one-upmanship or the kind.

It is about trying to help our fellow mankind who find themselves having mental health problems which they are struggling to cope with. Being their for them. It is not about judging how their problems evolved but helping them come to terms with it and ultimately learning how to cope.


I am only telling what is the truth, from my own family experience, the cuts have been dreadful. The Government should be highlighted when these things happen. Everything is political, the Tories made a choice to cut mental health services year on year. Yes we can all say how sad we are for each other but serious problems need professional help and the fact is waiting lists are now massive for mental health yet suicide levels are at record levels
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Ive found the way Tyson Fury has struggled with his mental problems and the way he is beating them laudable . Hope he destroys Anthony Joshua in their May/June proposed fight this year .Video below is moving as well:




I'd second this about Tyson Fury. Never really been much of a fan of him but after listening to him on Joe Rogans podcast I thought he surprisingly came across as quite the mental health champion talking openly about how he came back from the brink as an overweight, depressed mess getting whatever stimulant he could lay his hands on to heavyweight champion of the world. Definitely recommend giving it a listen, just google 'JRE MMA show#47 with Tyson Fury'.


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I am only telling what is the truth, from my own family experience, the cuts have been dreadful. The Government should be highlighted when these things happen. Everything is political, the Tories made a choice to cut mental health services year on year. Yes we can all say how sad we are for each other but serious problems need professional help and the fact is waiting lists are now massive for mental health yet suicide levels are at record levels


I am very sorry to hear of your plight and if I can be of help send me a PM.

Without detailing it, and the govt. in power, a person I know sought help. They were told that they did need help but they, service 'A', couldn't help but would send service 'B'. Same story and they got to service 'J' who thought service 'A' might be the place to be. This story be also ring true for others.

The only point I really want to make in my first reply to you is politicians, regardless of party, have not helped mental health issues. They pay lip service and make promises, especially at election time and that's it. As I have said on other threads I am not blue or red and I didn't want this thread to become a slanging match for forumites of opposite political views. Their are other threads for that!

I only wanted this to be an impartial thread about mental health. As you said people need professional help but it's not their for them. Hence the small amount of help forumites could give may be better than nothing.

My thanks again to Sandford for starting the thread and who has also offered to be PM'd. Would anyone else would like to put forward themselves to be PM'd?


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I'd second this about Tyson Fury. Never really been much of a fan of him but after listening to him on Joe Rogans podcast I thought he surprisingly came across as quite the mental health champion talking openly about how he came back from the brink as an overweight, depressed mess getting whatever stimulant he could lay his hands on to heavyweight champion of the world. Definitely recommend giving it a listen, just google 'JRE MMA show#47 with Tyson Fury'.
Thanks for the link but Ive already heard that interview.

What I found remarkable about the first Deontay Wilder fight was the way Tyson Fury came back from that 12 th round knockdown. I think he was concussed . For me the best bit of sporting action Ive seen.


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I think it’s really important the threads primary focus remains mental ill health and being a channel through which people can gain some relief no matter how big or small. I think I understand where you are coming from DB, as a lot of threads are reduced to or descend into politics.

However, Codcheeky’s point is a valid one and is an important factor in his own, or someone close to hims story. Austerity drives mental health problems and then when people need the help the provision of treatment is not there or not available quickly enough.

One of the lowest points I’ve had saw me reach out to Mind as I was desperate and was signposted to them by my GP. I had used them previously and they were brilliant. But after my initial call it was 8months before they gave me an appointment. Supply could not meet demand. That’s not their fault but it highlights a very real problem too.

I hate to think how things will be moving forward. The consequences of people not having the right help available at the right time are frightening.


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I think it’s really important the threads primary focus remains mental ill health and being a channel through which people can gain some relief no matter how big or small. I think I understand where you are coming from DB, as a lot of threads are reduced to or descend into politics.

However, Codcheeky’s point is a valid one and is an important factor in his own, or someone close to hims story. Austerity drives mental health problems and then when people need the help the provision of treatment is not there or not available quickly enough.

One of the lowest points I’ve had saw me reach out to Mind as I was desperate and was signposted to them by my GP. I had used them previously and they were brilliant. But after my initial call it was 8months before they gave me an appointment. Supply could not meet demand. That’s not their fault but it highlights a very real problem too.

I hate to think how things will be moving forward. The consequences of people not having the right help available at the right time are frightening.


No matter how long or dark the tunnel there is always a light at the end of it. Sometimes you can't see it but you have to keep looking. PM me if you need to.



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I think this is a thread that should never die.

It may help them to post a message on this thread ( Not Agony Aunt) but to relieve their anxiety, tension or stress. Just writing something might release the pressure. They don't have to use their own name, something like ' I have a friend, my mate etc.).

This could be a matter of life and death, death if not literal but also in the sense on not being able to live a normal life like most people. This may not be you but could be your partner, child, parent, mate, friend, neighbour etc. The list is endless.

The need for these unfortunate people is to talk or in this case just a few words to ease their mind a little bit may help them.
Beautiful words. Especially in the light of what I read yesterday. Suicide remains the biggest killer of men under 45 years.



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This thread has moved down the pecking order, but it's their if you need it. It's good to talk, relieves tension, stress and anxiety.


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This thread has moved down the pecking order, but it's their if you need it. It's good to talk, relieves tension, stress and anxiety.


Why the f**k would someone red cross this gesture? A person extends the hand of friendship to allow strangers to off load! Strange world!

Fill your boots by the way, water off a ducks back.


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