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It sounds like you are working on the misconception that these illnesses are a lack of resilience or that somehow toughness is the antithesis of anxiety and depression. It is clearly not as simple as that.

My daughter currently has counselling and she’s a brilliant young person with oodles of kindness, compassion and consideration. I wouldn’t say she isn’t resilient either. She can be a tough cookie if the need arises. I’m extremely proud of her and not just because I’m her Dad.

As I’ve said on numerous occasions I suffer myself and did so incredibly when I was studying a degree but it didn’t stop me achieving a first and I’m not sure I could have done so had I not had perseverance, tenacity or resilience.

I think it’s a dangerous game to be judgemental around this subject area. Especially in a thread that was intended to give people an outlet should they need it.


Ah but that doesn’t fit with the wrong day ‘solutions’ and platitudes does it.


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Heard about this running nationally in numerous locations. It is great to see a club setting up in Grimsby. Well done Sean.


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Thanks for sharing that article Sandford.
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Message came up on my Instagram today about how many people commit suicide every year. Roughly a million take their life each year. Shocking statistics .

Hope some  people never give up on hope or love. Easier said than done sometimes I know given some people's backgrounds.

Hopefully in the future we see a day where suicides are no more.

Every life lost to suicide is a tragedy as all human life is precious.

Again huge credit to Sandford for starting this thread 👏.


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Message came up on my Instagram today about how many people commit suicide every year. Roughly a million take their life each year. Shocking statistics .

Hope some  people never give up on hope or love. Easier said than done sometimes I know given some people's backgrounds.

Hopefully in the future we see a day where suicides are no more.

Every life lost to suicide is a tragedy as all human life is precious.

Again huge credit to Sandford for starting this thread 👏.


Some people have mental health issues for which they receive medication and probably cope when depressed, as they may understand it. Unfortunately, others with no mental health issues hit a brick wall when mental health problems arise.

It is this group of people who do not know who to ask for help, as it is a completely new experience for them. Things manifest in their minds and regrettably, they only see suicide as a way out. I know there are mental health 'days', awareness days, etc., but if your health is ok nobody bothers to go.

As I pointed out to someone ( not about mental health), who was supposed to care for people, many people who need help for a problem need it now; not tomorrow, or next week or the next appointment but now. Deaf ears, unfortunately.

Suicide is a sad indication of what is supposed to be a caring society, which does not care but gives lip service to it.



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Having worked with kids who’ve committed suicide and sadly, many adults, for me, whilst it’s obviously been important and had a lasting impact, Covid hasn’t worried me in the slightest.

The suicide rate is growing, that’s a pandemic…is it growing because society is getting bigger? Is it linked to modern day society or is a combination of lots of things, not to mention significant cut backs to services…or indeed services just kicking back cases which I see on a weekly basis.

Many people have sadly passed away because of suicide and worryingly, even more have been on the edge, generally blokes. What brings them back is personal to them, sometimes it’s a thought, an act of kindness from a stranger, their actual mental health preventing them or support services.

Since starting at my new school, and having spent several years working in a custodial setting and seeing self harm and suicide, as well as suicidal ideation first hand, I’ve introduced a self harm and suicide scheme which we run across all year groups. Some staff find it a challenge to teach but they’ll overcome that. It’s important, even for those pupils who don’t show any signs, it provides support mechanisms they can use to help friends but also self help and the likes. It’s nothing too intricate but it works.

We’ve had 5 pupils (out of 72) who have lost a parent or sibling to suicide this year…one acruslly lost another sibling 2 years ago…

Worrying times but there are people doing good and there are those on the edge coming back, working on themselves and building themselves back up to be strong and safe…


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Having worked with kids who’ve committed suicide and sadly, many adults, for me, whilst it’s obviously been important and had a lasting impact, Covid hasn’t worried me in the slightest.

The suicide rate is growing, that’s a pandemic…is it growing because society is getting bigger? Is it linked to modern day society or is a combination of lots of things, not to mention significant cut backs to services…or indeed services just kicking back cases which I see on a weekly basis.

Many people have sadly passed away because of suicide and worryingly, even more have been on the edge, generally blokes. What brings them back is personal to them, sometimes it’s a thought, an act of kindness from a stranger, their actual mental health preventing them or support services.

Since starting at my new school, and having spent several years working in a custodial setting and seeing self harm and suicide, as well as suicidal ideation first hand, I’ve introduced a self harm and suicide scheme which we run across all year groups. Some staff find it a challenge to teach but they’ll overcome that. It’s important, even for those pupils who don’t show any signs, it provides support mechanisms they can use to help friends but also self help and the likes. It’s nothing too intricate but it works.

We’ve had 5 pupils (out of 72) who have lost a parent or sibling to suicide this year…one acruslly lost another sibling 2 years ago…

Worrying times but there are people doing good and there are those on the edge coming back, working on themselves and building themselves back up to be strong and safe…


I'm very pleased you have introduced a self-harm and suicide scheme. It's a shame that it's not on the national curriculum.

I think the way people have expectations today is too much for them to cope with, nobody is good at everything and fails at some things. Failure should be taught as a fact of life, not something that cannot be accepted by society. Coming first is today's standard for everything we do, but excelling above a person's normal capability is also a victory for them and should be acknowledged. Instead, society tells them they didn't come first they are a failure!

Perhaps we should go back to the old British way of 'taking part is what counts'.



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Some people have mental health issues for which they receive medication and probably cope when depressed, as they may understand it. Unfortunately, others with no mental health issues hit a brick wall when mental health problems arise.

As I pointed out to someone ( not about mental health), who was supposed to care for people, many people who need help for a problem need it now; not tomorrow, or next week or the next appointment but now. Deaf ears, unfortunately.

Suicide is a sad indication of what is supposed to be a caring society, which does not care but gives lip service to it.

Thanks for your response DB 👍

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Having worked with kids who’ve committed suicide and sadly, many adults, for me,

Since starting at my new school, and having spent several years working in a custodial setting and seeing self harm and suicide, as well as suicidal ideation first hand, I’ve introduced a self harm and suicide scheme which we run across all year groups. Some staff find it a challenge to teach but they’ll overcome that. It’s important, even for those pupils who don’t show any signs, it provides support mechanisms they can use to help friends but also self help and the likes. It’s nothing too intricate but it works.

Worrying times but there are people doing good and there are those on the edge coming back, working on themselves and building themselves back up to be strong and safe…
Very moving post Aldi. Thankyou and thanks for what your are doing in your new school eg trying to help others 👍.

I think though like DB has pointed to in the past through his faith in Jesus and its someone who I have a deep love for as well is we can all learn something from if you strip all the religious dogma which was created after Jesus died. At the essence of everyone is a desire to be loved and feel part of a healthy community which we feel valued .To often now in our society its about vanity /profit . We need to get more to the heart of what life is all about . Living in harmony with each other and nature and accepting everybody regardless of shape, intelligence , looks,disability,race ,social standing,material wealth, etc. Without variety life doesn't continue.


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