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I find it despicable that some of the richest people in this country try and find the loopholes that helps them avoid paying tax.
Just pay your flipping taxes — you've got plenty!
The poorest have to be earning a certain amount before they pay tax, but that's how the system has to work. If you can afford to pay taxes, then pay them. If you can't, then don't.
Taxes (among other things) are what keep this country going, and evolving, and growing. If you don't want to put money into a pot that's used to improve everyone's lives (ignoring, for the moment, the way politicians often mismanage this pot) then that makes you pretty selfish and goes against the 'spirit' of this country — the patriotism — that everyone bangs on about when we're faced with adversity.
But to keep this a football thread — great idea by the Newcastle fans. When you've got enough yourself, start helping others.
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MPs have to vote on whether to accept the increase or not.
So if your employer asked you or your union, if you were a member one, whether your should accept a pay rise or not , what would their or your reaction be?
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FFS! 8 of the last 50 years or so have had a Labour government but it's still Labour's fault!
Nothing can be laid at the door of Osborn, Cameron, May, Johnson?
In your time period labour has been in power for 18 years. Every time they virtually bankrupted the country. I know this is non football but it us in response to the few that never miss an opportunity to have a dig at a conservative government
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Turning into a non football thread
Baldrick ! The only impression you can do is that of a man with no talent !! GTFC team 09/10 - Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick, Baldrick.
I see Hanson's still out
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I find it despicable that some of the richest people in this country try and find the loopholes that helps them avoid paying tax.
Just pay your flipping taxes — you've got plenty!
The poorest have to be earning a certain amount before they pay tax, but that's how the system has to work. If you can afford to pay taxes, then pay them. If you can't, then don't.
Taxes (among other things) are what keep this country going, and evolving, and growing. If you don't want to put money into a pot that's used to improve everyone's lives (ignoring, for the moment, the way politicians often mismanage this pot) then that makes you pretty selfish and goes against the 'spirit' of this country — the patriotism — that everyone bangs on about when we're faced with adversity.
But to keep this a football thread — great idea by the Newcastle fans. When you've got enough yourself, start helping others.
While I whole heartedly agree with you, sadly it is human nature that some people, regardless of wealth, will try to avoid paying tax. How many people have paid for a building/plumbing /decorating job "cash in" hand" or said "cash and don't put it through the books to avoid vat etc". We are all guilty - the principle is the same but it's just the amounts that differ.
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So if your employer asked you or your union, if you were a member one, whether your should accept a pay rise or not , what would their or your reaction be?
Just correcting your incorrect statement. If I were an MP on £81k a year (plus expenses), and I was expected to accept another £3,300 at the same time as supposedly saying there isn’t any money to feed kids over the school holidays, I’d probably say something similar to - https://mobile.twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1316081150885072896Anyway, back to football, jumpers for goalposts, freshly cut grass, ahh marvellous, isn’t it? I paid a tenner on Saturday and felt like I got decent value for it, the stream was perfect and never cut out or froze. Not sure how I would’ve felt it we hadn’t got that last minute winner though.
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Just correcting your incorrect statement. If I were an MP on £81k a year (plus expenses), and I was expected to accept another £3,300 at the same time as supposedly saying there isn’t any money to feed kids over the school holidays, I’d probably say something similar to - https://mobile.twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1316081150885072896Anyway, back to football, jumpers for goalposts, freshly cut grass, ahh marvellous, isn’t it? I paid a tenner on Saturday and felt like I got decent value for it, the stream was perfect and never cut out or froze. Not sure how I would’ve felt it we hadn’t got that last minute winner though.
Just to correct you, what I said was a rhetorical question and not a statement. You quoted a very noble gesture but how many other MPs will follow that lead including Keir Starmer, Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbott?
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Just to correct you, what I said was a rhetorical question and not a statement. You quoted a very noble gesture but how many other MPs will follow that lead including Keir Starmer, Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbott?
“ MPs had no say in what they are paid” is not a rhetorical question. Who cares what Diane Abbott or Sir Keith Starmer do? I fear you’re taking this off-topic, can someone PLEASE talk about the football?
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[img]https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/net-debt-political-92-2019.jpg.webp[/img]
I think that image says everything. The mess they inherited was always going to take decades to resolve, it's just no politician will get elected telling that truth.
That image shows national debt was no worse under Labour until 2008 when a worldwide recession triggered by the banking sector necessitated huge stimulus packages. Should Blair have better regulated the banks? Of course. Would the Tories have supported that? Would they intercourse. It then shows that a decade of austerity which has caused poverty, misery and death for many of the most vulnerable in the country has done nothing to reduce that debt. Bad tackle by Pickford at the weekend.
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“ MPs had no say in what they are paid” is not a rhetorical question.
Who cares what Diane Abbott or Sir Keith Starmer do? I fear you’re taking this off-topic, can someone PLEASE talk about the football?
How ironical - how about you keeping it going
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