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Currently reading ‘Microcosm - Portrait of a Central European City’, by Norman Davies and Roger Moorhouse.

Sounds heavy, and at 500 pages it is literally. But it’s a cracking read. If you’re a history geek.


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Currently reading ‘Microcosm - Portrait of a Central European City’, by Norman Davies and Roger Moorhouse.

Sounds heavy, and at 500 pages it is literally. But it’s a cracking read. If you’re a history geek.
Thanks for the recommendation .A history book that I read within the last 3 month's which I found moving was " Andrew Marrs a history of the world."


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Thanks for the recommendation .A history book that I read within the last 3 month's which I found intriguing  was " Andrew Marrs a history of the world."



‘Intriguing’ is an ambiguous term. Intriguing good or intriguing ‘wtf is this guy on?’


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‘Intriguing’ is an ambiguous term. Intriguing good or intriguing ‘wtf is this guy on?’
Have a break Kingston  . I was alluding to fascinating  .

What you on more like. Try to send out a bit more positivity as opposed to negativity. People prefer that in life.



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I mean Brave New World and 1984 would be appropriate at this current time...Lord of the Flies too...

I’ve just read ‘1312 Among the ultras’. An excellent insight in to football ultras world wide and the impact and influence they have.

I’ve reread Tim Parks’ book ‘A season with Verona’ - it’s excellent and whilst there are some serious issues in the book, it gives you an insight in to italian football.

Calcio is another great book with checking out but Jonathan Foot. Some excellent detail about Italian football, right from the start...

Soccernomics is excellent too...


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I mean Brave New World and 1984 would be appropriate at this current time...Lord of the Flies too...

I’ve just read ‘1312 Among the ultras’. An excellent insight in to football ultras world wide and the impact and influence they have.

I’ve reread Tim Parks’ book ‘A season with Verona’ - it’s excellent and whilst there are some serious issues in the book, it gives you an insight in to italian football.

Calcio is another great book with checking out but Jonathan Foot. Some excellent detail about Italian football, right from the start...

Soccernomics is excellent too...
Thanks for these Aldi. I love a football book .

Good ones that I read were Alex Ferguson managing my life. Interesting to note that he said a lot of the drinking culture in this country which has always existed in football and probably to a lesser extent now came from the mining community's where people after a long shift down the mine then went into the pub. This then carried over into football.

Another one was La Roja a journey through Spanish football by Jimmy Burns. Considering the Spanish had always been bottle jobs on the international scene and to then  have the success they did between 2008 and 2012 I found extraordinary . I for one never thought they would win the world cup as did many others in Spain. Hence I remember going over to Spain in 2010 and hearing stories of grown men crying .Like me they thought they would never see the day when their country would win the world cup. Dream come true for many Spaniards and what was nice is it temporarily gave a unity to the country including some Catalonians that wanted separatism from Spain.






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I’ve reread Tim Parks’ book ‘A season with Verona’ - it’s excellent and whilst there are some serious issues in the book, it gives you an insight in to italian football.

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Agreed on Season with Verona

I also recommend:

'Forever Young' by Oliver Kay the tragic story of Adrian Doherty
'Brilliant Orange' by David Winner
'Ajax the Dutch the War' by Simon Kuper
'Fields of Glory Paths of Gold' by Kevin Connolly and Rab MacWilliam

But best of all, an absolutely fantastic book about Italian football 'The Miracle of Castel di Sangro' by Joe McGuinness about a Conference level club from a mountain village that made it to Serie B - best footy book ever



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Agreed on Season with Verona

I also recommend:

'Forever Young' by Oliver Kay the tragic story of Adrian Doherty
'Brilliant Orange' by David Winner
'Ajax the Dutch the War' by Simon Kuper
'Fields of Glory Paths of Gold' by Kevin Connolly and Rab MacWilliam

But best of all, an absolutely fantastic book about Italian football 'The Miracle of Castel di Sangro' by Joe McGuinness about a Conference level club from a mountain village that made it to Serie B - best footy book ever



With you on the Verona book and the Miracle of Castel di Sangro, and Ajax the Dutch and the War. Have you tried Ajax, Barcelona, Cruyff?

Similar to the Ajax/War book is one I read about Dynamo Kiev. Can’t remember the bloody name now or the author.


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Have a break Kingston  . I was alluding to fascinating  .

What you on more like. Try to send out a bit more positivity as opposed to negativity. People prefer that in life.



You’re a touchy little thing aren’t you! Intriguing is a neutral word. It could be either positive or negative. I didn’t say it was negative.  If you use an ambiguous term, then any responsibility for misunderstanding is down to you.


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With you on the Verona book and the Miracle of Castel di Sangro, and Ajax the Dutch and the War. Have you tried Ajax, Barcelona, Cruyff?

Similar to the Ajax/War book is one I read about Dynamo Kiev. Can’t remember the bloody name now or the author.


I read Cruyff's autobiography 'My Turn'. it was frankly awful and changed my mind about the man, great player but came across as a petulant twit

I read a book about Moscow Dynamo (I think) about their tour to UK in the 1950s but sadly a) I can't find the damn thing!  and b) I can't remember the title  



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